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jrvswim

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The majority of the posts on Clomid focus on those who took steriods before and needed clomid to help ease their bodies back to normal test. production.

Thats not my case. I have never done steriods, but reguardless still have less test. Approximately 8 free and total t has varied from 330 to 390ish. Its really effecting my life but I want to avoid hormone replacement therapy. I'm only 21 and am in good shape. My LH levels were low as well. For someone like me does clomid permanetly raise t levels or is it only a temporary cure? Those of you that have taken clomid (but not steroids before) what has been your experience? Advice? Best Options?
 
Clomid is typially a short term fix and or test. HPTA restart protocol if I recall correctly. The test is to see if you are secondary or primary. The downfall of clomid is that it has some bad sides for long term use.
 
Thanks for getting back to me. A well known uro. told me that my testicles were fine and that he assumed it more to do with pituitary gland. If its secondary then are there any options besides hormone replacement?
 
I would suggest something you can use long term to raise your T levels... Sustain Alpha and Formestane are 2 options you can use year round to help increase t levels/ control estrogen.
 
If your LH was low that would tend to suggest that you are secondary. If the balls are working but not recieving adequate signal hormones, such as LH and FSH then HCG would be a possible option. It mimics the LH signal hormone. Alot of guys on here have had good luck with HCG. Do a search on it, there is a ton of info on this board about it.
 
look into pp's trs
 
Reginald said:
Author L.Rea in his chemical muscle enancement explains about u should use Clomid only for 5 days after a T cycle(1-2 pills at day)...not more...and not to use each months,but u wait 3-4 or 5 months before to re-use it...'cause it can damage the Leydyng cells and testosterone production foe ever.
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I have that book right in front of me, and it says nothing of the sort. He recommends 15 days clomid use, and says nothing about waiting to reuse it. Since it doesn't effect the Leydig cells directly (it's HPTA mediated), I don't see why it would damage your nuts. Does mine a lot of good.
 
EasyEJL said:
man, thats a good book for sure :D
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It ain't bad if you're into really short cycles. Actually, it is pretty weird, but it never said anything as crazy as "only use clomid for 5 days." I guess the Italian translator was playing some practical jokes; maybe he doesn't like Italians.
 
Reginald said:
sorry,I'm wrong,u're right...I confuse Clomid with HCG,sorry.yes clomid use is within 5 and 15 days....I think 5 days is sufficient enough.While HCG u should wait 1-2 months between next cycles...sorry a lot,buddy.
About Chemical Muscle Enhancement...it's a very nice book,Author L.Rea explain all about to how restore your own T but it's a pity he doest explain nothing about how restore your own igf-1,hgh after hgh cycle...nothing about gHRPs and GHRH.Maybe in next future someone will does it.
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Hey, no need to apologize: I know how to use clomid. No way on earth 5 days of clomid is going to do anything. 15 days is pretty short too, but it makes more sense. I've never used HCG at all, but it's a much different drug than clomid.
There is a lot of weird "info" in Rea's books. For example, he thinks the HPTA suppression from deca or tren is "low/moderate."
 
jrvswim said:
The majority of the posts on Clomid focus on those who took steriods before and needed clomid to help ease their bodies back to normal test. production.

Thats not my case. I have never done steriods, but reguardless still have less test. Approximately 8 free and total t has varied from 330 to 390ish. Its really effecting my life but I want to avoid hormone replacement therapy. I'm only 21 and am in good shape. My LH levels were low as well. For someone like me does clomid permanetly raise t levels or is it only a temporary cure? Those of you that have taken clomid (but not steroids before) what has been your experience? Advice? Best Options?
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I have been in the same spot you are in and to an extent I still am.. Clomid is yes pretty much a tempory fix. I am 18 years old and two years ago all these problems started for me due to high levels of stress and trying to get rid of the stress by masturbating an average of 15 times a day causing adrenal fatigue/low neurotransmitter/depleated hormonal levels/low testosterone/high cortisol.. I was put on clomid 3-4 month ago after the first two months my levels shot from 253 to 404 to 562. I WAS NOT PLEASED AT ALL, I had hoped for more. A month or so later I go into get another test and I still felt no different than the month before and my level comes out at 1170! woot, even though I still feel horrible. My prediction is that if I stoped taking clomid my levels would even out at 500's or so, I know that I have other things that need to be addressed. I am currently working with a good doctor and health consultant that actually posts on this board. Anyway I just got my latest results back today and should be talking to my doc tommorow over the phone since they live 3 hours away in philly lol. Things should start getting figured out on why I feel bad, my cholesterol is also low. Wondering if you guys know how to increase cholesterol? Anyway things have moved on a lot in the past months I have hope now and a lot more motivation to get better. For a full 2 years I felt like the world was against me, I had no energy, life sucked, couldn't get boners, still had acne but not as back as now. Man there are so many aspects that need to be looked in to and theres really no magical cure unless your real lucky, it's all about doing the research and finding a good doc, and their TOUGH TO FIND LET ME TELL YOU. My last endo told me to screw off, why do I need a boner or sex drive and all this stuff and she was a female, Jeez what has this world come to!! My lh level is now at 12.5 and fsh is at 5.9. estradiol is at 35 I have never taken steroids either low and have been pretty healthy. One thing I can say is vitamin d vitamin d vitamin d!!!!!!!!!!! You need it everybody needs it and even if you think your getting enough your prolly not. I supplemented with 2000 iu a day for months and months and levels were still low at 30. My advice would be to either find an amazing doctor thats willing to do extensive testing or contact me for my doctor because it will save you a lot of time. He was able to give me around 100 blood tests all covered under insurence and they know the ins and outs of hormones nutrients and whatever man. I am close to getting better my shbg is also at 35.. Anyway hit me in a message if you wanna know more, so many people out there have no clue what to do in this situation and i can tell you I was one of them for 2 years until I got the balls to start questioning doctors and going to doctors. At first they thought I had mono but I told them time and time again I had low test. JEEZ they didn't listen so I have done this all myself pretty much!!! it's a tough road when you have hormonal problems and imbalences do the research and find the right people to help which their aren't many of!
 
Reginald said:
yeah,weird info....in fact,he didnt wrote nothing about how to restore your own hgh and igf-1 after hgh cycles....so,I had obtained a hgh deficit ,'cause he didnt explain that u should use ghrps after hgh cycles,u know....my problem is in Italy I cannot find ghrps ...I asked to send them to myself...but the custom seizes them....so,I'm forced to go in USA or even in China in order to take some ghrp6,u know....it's a mess......I never took a plain in my life!(and with a hgh deficiency!)... it's a mess,buddy...it's a mess!
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he wrote nothing about it because unless you have a medical condition, you don't have to do anything to restore it, it takes care of itself within days. And nobody gets shut down off 1iu a day either without a medical issue.
 
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