Alpha 1 with 11- Sterone
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You could run it at 6-9 caps per day for the 3 weeks with Alpha One. What is your PH exp?
JazzV
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I've run a cycle of H-drol, another of E-stane, and an X-Tren cycle. Most of which have worked very well. The E-stane I had a little trouble with due to my own errors.
I have a PCT that works very well for me. I typically run an Aromatase inhibitor for for the latter part of my cycle plus a portion of the PCT. I take a bunch of herbals which cover test boosting, liver support, a SERM-like properties. At the very end of the PCT I bring in cortisol control.
I'll have 1 more H-drol/ EQ-Plex cycle under my belt before I go into the Alpha One cycle. As I understand it, this is quite a jump. There will be enough of a delay between the cycles to make sure my system is clean and stabilized.
JazzV
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I should also add; I ran 11-Sterone while on my X-Tren cycle. I really like the way that cut down on the 'wetness' of the X-tren.
I may not be able to attribute all of the 'wetness' to the X-Tren itself. It could have been due to what went in to my pie hole. My appetite was through the roof while on X-Tren.
Howeve, one side I can say X-Tren is responsible for is pronounced testicular atrophy.
I may not be able to attribute all of the 'wetness' to the X-Tren itself. It could have been due to what went in to my pie hole. My appetite was through the roof while on X-Tren.
Howeve, one side I can say X-Tren is responsible for is pronounced testicular atrophy.
Liftingstud
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So u don't use a TRUE SERM for pct?
I don't see the point of running 11oxo with alpha 1. Better to run form to help with wettness. Look at cel write up for how to do this.
Also xtren shouldn't have been wet. It's a dry compound.
I don't see the point of running 11oxo with alpha 1. Better to run form to help with wettness. Look at cel write up for how to do this.
Also xtren shouldn't have been wet. It's a dry compound.
JazzV
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To each his own on PCT.
I had figured the AI keeps the estrogen in check.
I had also figured I'd run the AI along with Alpha-one cycle. I may or may not use formestane (which I have on hand). I have other estrogen control agents which I've had good results with.
As far as the 'wetness' with the X-tren, like I said above, it could have been my diet. I just noticed as soon as I added the 11- sterone in I had started to lean out. That's what gave me the idea to run it with Alpha-one.
Liftingstud
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U figure? Do u have bloodwork proving u are recovering? Also depends on what u havevrun in the past. AI pct doesn't work for ur stronger aas. AI can be used along with a proper pct but def not the best way to recover if u know anything about how they work and human physiology/endocrinology. All I have to say is watch out for estrogen rebound.
JazzV
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I, by no means am claiming to be an expert in PCT. I know in the past the total PCT that I have used worked for me. I have no blood work to back it up, but I can say that i have felt fine. no mood swings, lethargy, or illness.
Now if you're telling me the Alpha-one is that much stronger than what I've swallowed before. I'll have to take your word on the SERM. I've been a little reluctant to order experimental lab drugs over the internet. The caveat emptor stands on my prior purchases of pro-hormones.
Liftingstud
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First... The signs of recover are more than what u point out. The only true way to know is bloodwork. It's like playing Russian roulette... Sure may be good a few times but it only takes once and bang!
You need estrogen to recover during pct. Blocking it conversion is setting u up for problems once u d/c the AI.
So u trust what's written on the bottle by a supplement company and will not trust a research chemical???? Hmmm odd logic.
Liftingstud
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Ohh one more thing serms are not experimental lab drugs. The are everyday rx drugs just sold through a research company for reseach purposes. My lab rats always recover perfect with a well trusted reseach company serm.
JaredGalloway
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Alpha one is MUCH stronger than the past Ph's u have used it is most closely relataed to M1T... and we all know how horrible that stuff was... u will get the same strength gains as m1t but not as much size... thats the best way i can explain it... u will notice a very large difference in ur PCT when u use a serm (nolva, clomid) compared to an OTC PCT... for me i usually end up making gains during my PCT which is always fun but i do end up bloating a little bit...
JazzV
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interesting point.
I felt something similar with the X-tren cycle I ran last. I felt like i was still making gains three week after I had finished taking X-tren.
I've been using CEL's PCT asist along with Animal stak and novedex as my PCT. I also bring in Suppress C and the cycle assist at the very end.