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Doc ordered blood work ???????

alabamayankee

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i am 3 weeks into an eq-plex cycle and went to the doc on friday because i was feeling sick and he had me get blood work done. I had no way of getting out of it since it was first thing in the morning. My concern is will eq-plex show my test levals to be high or will they be low?
 
depends on what the blood work is going to be. if its a full blood panel, checking everything, then yes it will most likely show some elevated test. however, if he asks are you taking anything you don't have to fess up to it, unless you want to. they will not know what exact compound it is because they need to specifically test for it.
 
U have doctor patient confidentiality and it is a good thing, you IMO you should tell ur doc then he will be better position to help if anything goes wrong. My doc gives me full blood work whenever i ask, i get one before and after a cycle he might even prescribe some goodies if ur lucky :)
 
edwitt said:
U have doctor patient confidentiality and it is a good thing, you IMO you should tell ur doc then he will be better position to help if anything goes wrong. My doc gives me full blood work whenever i ask, i get one before and after a cycle he might even prescribe some goodies if ur lucky :)
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yeah but docs can also write that down on the files ur insurance company sees and they can drop u with no if, ands, or buts about it
 
it is a full blood panel . he asked what my wife would say i complain about the most and i said that im always tired which is true on or off cycle. so he thought it might be a thyroid issue or a test issue. I actually was hopeing it would show a low test count but i dont think thats going to happen. I will not tell him i take anything if he asks that isnta good thing to have on my charts.
 
bigpapa said:
depends on what the blood work is going to be. if its a full blood panel, checking everything, then yes it will most likely show some elevated test. however, if he asks are you taking anything you don't have to fess up to it, unless you want to. they will not know what exact compound it is because they need to specifically test for it.
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if my body is at all supressed from the Eq-plex wouldnt the tests show a lower leval?
 
alabamayankee said:
if my body is at all supressed from the Eq-plex wouldnt the tests show a lower leval?
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Doctor may put 2 and 2 together but he will not detect the eq-plex or any other compound so if he asks just deny and say you have not been taking any supplements other than ur multis

Personallyi like my doctor to know whats going on and why
 
bigpapa said:
when taking a pro-hormone/aas...ur natural test levels are surpressed and replaced by synthetic ones.
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dammit thats what i thought but wanted to make sure. should have waited to go to the doc until after then maybe i could have gotten some goodies. now when i go back for tests and if it was high and now low afterwards he will know i was full of ****.
 
bigpapa said:
when taking a pro-hormone/aas...ur natural test levels are surpressed and replaced by synthetic ones.
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other than 1,4AD or some sh!t like that, testosterone is the ONLY compound that both suppresses natty test and replaces with synthetic test. other compounds ACT on natty testosterone but do NOT replace it.....only suppress it.


i dont think running trenbolone solo is going to replace natty testosterone.....it will destroy it!
 
nosnmiveins said:
other than 1,4AD or some sh!t like that, testosterone is the ONLY compound that both suppresses natty test and replaces with synthetic test. other compounds ACT on natty testosterone but do NOT replace it.....only suppress it.


i dont think running trenbolone solo is going to replace natty testosterone.....it will destroy it!
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yeah..woops i worded that wrong. thanks for the correction.
 
I would suggest telling the doctor that there's something you want to talk to him about, but he has to agree not to write it down because you're worried about the insurance companies using it against you down the road. Hopefully he agrees and you can be open about him. I am heavily biased, but there's nothing worse than lying to your doctor.
 
nosnmiveins said:
other than 1,4AD or some sh!t like that, testosterone is the ONLY compound that both suppresses natty test and replaces with synthetic test. other compounds ACT on natty testosterone but do NOT replace it.....only suppress it.


i dont think running trenbolone solo is going to replace natty testosterone.....it will destroy it!
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so i picked the only one that will show a high level of test? should have gone with tren and had bloodwork done .....j/k
 
this is probably a pretty good example of how pre-cycle blood work would have been a good idea.

Goodluck hope the tests come back well, i suggest that once u PCT and have recovered fully that you get another blood test run. Its going to be hard to find what hormonal problems you may have since you are in an altered state, and i dont think there are too many articles or resources that will allow the doctor to discipher how much of your values are synthetic or modified vs natural.
 
slacker86 said:
this is probably a pretty good example of how pre-cycle blood work would have been a good idea.

Goodluck hope the tests come back well, i suggest that once u PCT and have recovered fully that you get another blood test run. Its going to be hard to find what hormonal problems you may have since you are in an altered state, and i dont think there are too many articles or resources that will allow the doctor to discipher how much of your values are synthetic or modified vs natural.
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thank you for the help. My labs came back or i should say the doc called and my HDl/LDL and total is high and they have put me on meds for it. they also said my liver was slightly elevated. should i stop the cycle or continue and take the meds or not take the meds till the end? I am suppose to start E-stane monday so i suppose i shouldnt do that with a slightly elevated liver should I.
 
alabamayankee said:
thank you for the help. My labs came back or i should say the doc called and my HDl/LDL and total is high and they have put me on meds for it. they also said my liver was slightly elevated. should i stop the cycle or continue and take the meds or not take the meds till the end? I am suppose to start E-stane monday so i suppose i shouldnt do that with a slightly elevated liver should I.
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The next time you do a cycle u really have to read into what ur getting into a bit more. Almost every (and im saying almost cause i havent looked up every single one) will effect ur cholesterol and liver values i dont care if its methylated or not. The sheer fact if u are using a strict diet to increase protein will cause elevated liver values. The increase in cholesterol is from the steroids, the increased liver values are probably a result of the orals plus high protein diet.

As far as meds for cholesterol i wouldnt really **** with them but im a minimalist. Since u know the cause of the cholesterol (most likely steroids) why treat a symptom when u know what the underlying condition is? I just think its a lot of **** to be putting in ur body for something that could be temporary. Not to mention the drug test u took is during a period in which the results wont be at natural levels.

Either cut the cycle short and PCT, or keep going and then PCt then wait and get retested, i wouldnt jump on any medication after a blood test that i wasnt "sober" for.
 
slacker86 said:
The next time you do a cycle u really have to read into what ur getting into a bit more. Almost every (and im saying almost cause i havent looked up every single one) will effect ur cholesterol and liver values i dont care if its methylated or not. The sheer fact if u are using a strict diet to increase protein will cause elevated liver values. The increase in cholesterol is from the steroids, the increased liver values are probably a result of the orals plus high protein diet.

As far as meds for cholesterol i wouldnt really **** with them but im a minimalist. Since u know the cause of the cholesterol (most likely steroids) why treat a symptom when u know what the underlying condition is? I just think its a lot of **** to be putting in ur body for something that could be temporary. Not to mention the drug test u took is during a period in which the results wont be at natural levels.

Either cut the cycle short and PCT, or keep going and then PCt then wait and get retested, i wouldnt jump on any medication after a blood test that i wasnt "sober" for.
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^^^^^^
agreed
 
So, the doc didn't say anything about your test levels? You should ask for a copy of the lab report. My doctor always tries to do that. She will just call me and tell me what she thinks about it. But I like to see everything and also I paid for the damn test so give me a frickin copy. Sorry, that's just the way I see it. Anyway you can keep all your bloodwork files together and look back on it.
 
Stiffy said:
So, the doc didn't say anything about your test levels? You should ask for a copy of the lab report. My doctor always tries to do that. She will just call me and tell me what she thinks about it. But I like to see everything and also I paid for the damn test so give me a frickin copy. Sorry, that's just the way I see it. Anyway you can keep all your bloodwork files together and look back on it.
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I agree i need to see the report also. He didnt say a word about my test levels just that i had high cholestral and liver values. i have a follow up appt friday. ill keep you posted on the numbers.
 
You need to get tested when your clean. Any steroid alters cholesterol levels, which usually return to normal after the cycle. I get the impression that you use pHs often with little time in between cycles. I could be wrong, but that is what I sense. I also sense that you have do not have a full understanding of what these drugs do once inside the body, and how they effect bodily function. Am I wrong or right? I can usually read into things pretty accurately.
 
Tell the doc you want to wait a while before the meds, finish the cycle, do a propper pct, and then a few weeks after get blood work again...your values will almost always be f***ed while on cycle, you should know this, and you need to research a lot more
 
jayts22 said:
Tell the doc you want to wait a while before the meds, finish the cycle, do a propper pct, and then a few weeks after get blood work again...your values will almost always be f***ed while on cycle, you should know this, and you need to research a lot more
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I have done all kinds of research and this is actually only my second ph run in the last 2 years and in my life. when i was younger and in college i did use aas for a while. I know the risks and have taken all the precautions that are needed. I did fail to get pre-blood work done which yes is my fault. I had blood work done about a year ago when i was clean and everything was normal execpt for a high cholestral. the reason i went for blood work on cycle was by my doctors orders and i couldnt say no since i was in the office already. i really find it interesting that i am taking non meths at the moment and my liver values are high. yes i am aware that even they can cause a rise on values but think that everyone should take supports even with non meths. while using aas i never had any issues with blood work especally liver values. i dont drink or use any drugs or take tylenol at all. i find it iteresting that the values were messes up from a few weeks on eq-plex. the whole point of my thread was to ask peoples thoughts on adding the epi or p-mag for the last 4 weeks. I want to use p-mag but am a little cautious due to the liver values. i take cycle support by CEL and also take 600mg of sam-e a day on top of that. my diet is clean and i drink a a$$ ton of water. my mind and my ego says to take the risk . At what point and for what length do high liver values cause permanant damage. Would 4 weeks of a meth cause me to get into the so called danger zone even with supports.
 
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