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---LG Natadrol + AppNut HGHUp Cut Log ---

Decided tomorrow is going to be the end of Natadrol and beginning of pct. Just finished my second bottle, and decided I want to keep the third (and 4th :)) for when Im bulking later this year. Also, Im going to be moving in around 5 weeks (just found out today we got the house, going out next tues to handle papers) and I need to be done with everything as I wont have much time to manage all the supps. So, tomorrow Ill do a final on Natadrol, and then begin Formadrol+Lean Xtreme.

PCT will be four weeks, and I will most likely keep on cutting past PCT.... Today is actually end of week 9 since starting the cut.
 
[size=+2]Day 35, End of Natadrol, Beginning PCT:
Natadrol Review​
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LEAN MASS GAINED : 3+/- lbs
FAT LOST: 9+/- lbs

Starting Stats ... New Stats
  • Weight: 222 , 216
  • Body Fat: about 14% , 10.25
  • Waist (at where pants ride): 35 , 34
  • Upper Waist (above belly button): Was 35, now 32
  • Chest: 49 , slight decrease
  • Arms: 18.75 , NC
  • Quad: 28 , 27.25
  • Calves: 17 , NC
  • Neck: 18 , NC
  • Shoulders: 56 , NC

NATADROL: My score 9

All scores 1-10

Vascularity: 9. Chest veins never more apparent, vascularity in upper arms also improved.
Hardness: 9. From the first week forward, muscle density seemed very much improved, especially in arms/chest. Everything seemed to pop much better as well.
Fat Loss: 9. Worked better than any burner Ive tried as it helped me keep up with intense workouts, heavy lifts. Seems like lower belly fat is softer than ever, and ready to disappear anytime now..
Strength: 10. Never been this strong on a cut, ever. Didnt lose any strength on any lift (minus deads, but im scaling back awhile), and actually improved on smaller muscle group lifts (like BB curls, OH tri press)
Recovery: 8. Great. Felt like in between set recovery was slightly improved, however day to day soreness and readiness to lift improved.
Sleep: 8. Great, after taking HGHUP out of the picture.
Libido: 11. My libido was effed up towards the end as I was afraid I was gonna **** everywhere :) But before that it was like I was 16. Libido was great, but PERFORMANCE was insane. Lets just say the wife got tired out before I did, and I had to force myself to finish, every night. It was a night and day difference I have never experienced before.
Appetite: 6. For the purpose of a cut, low score. Im starving, where I normally would be fine.


Diet Changes into PCT...

full CHA/Keto, 2750 cals W/O days, 2600 non W/O days, refeeds every 24th meal

Cardio...

30 mins LISS

PCT Protocol

4/4/3/2 On Formadrol, 3/3/3/3 On Lean Xtreme. Hoping to drop 2-4 lbs of fat in PCT.

Will post end pictures following PCT.
 
Mongo97 said:
congrats on the house!
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thanks! we got screwed on our first place, bought on the downside of the bubble and it tanked even more. we're pretty upside down, but the bank worked with us, got it to a reasonable payment after the mod, and now we can rent it out and break even. we were smart and went 30 yr fixed, but the housing market here has just nosedived to about 50% of what we bought for.

i got my new crib in vegas for 115k, buying in CASH. its huge, 2600 sq ft, and about two blocks away from Golds :P first time ive been happy in about 3 years (dead srs). my job was total ****, had absolutely no extra cash (unless it was around tax time), and my wife's job was also ****. plus my dad was diagnosed with RA last year, and because we worked together, I got the pleasure of watching him get worse and worse everyday until the docs figured his meds out.

now we (me and wife) and my ma and pa are moving to Vegas at the same time (we got two houses about three blocks from each other), Ive got about 10k extra in the bank to buy furniture, etc. and I can finally get to planning on having me a baby boy. life turns around sometimes i guess. so thanks again :P
 
cobfab12 said:
thanks! we got screwed on our first place, bought on the downside of the bubble and it tanked even more. we're pretty upside down, but the bank worked with us, got it to a reasonable payment after the mod, and now we can rent it out and break even. we were smart and went 30 yr fixed, but the housing market here has just nosedived to about 50% of what we bought for.

i got my new crib in vegas for 115k, buying in CASH. its huge, 2600 sq ft, and about two blocks away from Golds :P first time ive been happy in about 3 years (dead srs). my job was total ****, had absolutely no extra cash (unless it was around tax time), and my wife's job was also ****. plus my dad was diagnosed with RA last year, and because we worked together, I got the pleasure of watching him get worse and worse everyday until the docs figured his meds out.

now we (me and wife) and my ma and pa are moving to Vegas at the same time (we got two houses about three blocks from each other), Ive got about 10k extra in the bank to buy furniture, etc. and I can finally get to planning on having me a baby boy. life turns around sometimes i guess. so thanks again :P
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Congrats on the house and it sounds like8 weeks would be sick on Natadrol, VERY detailed review on Natadrol, sounds like a keeper!!
 
andrew732 said:
Congrats on the house and it sounds like8 weeks would be sick on Natadrol, VERY detailed review on Natadrol, sounds like a keeper!!
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Yeah buddy, I want to run it for 8 weeks on a bulk. Id run it @ 8 caps from the start the second time around, feels like the sweet spot.

Hell, maybe ill stack it up with Turinabol LV this summer, run ND for 8 and start TB in on week three @ 50/50/75/75/75 :)
 
cobfab12 said:
[size=+2]Day 35, End of Natadrol, Beginning PCT:
Natadrol Review​
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LEAN MASS GAINED : 3+/- lbs
FAT LOST: 9+/- lbs

Starting Stats ... New Stats
  • Weight: 222 , 216
  • Body Fat: about 14% , 10.25
  • Waist (at where pants ride): 35 , 34
  • Upper Waist (above belly button): Was 35, now 32
  • Chest: 49 , slight decrease
  • Arms: 18.75 , NC
  • Quad: 28 , 27.25
  • Calves: 17 , NC
  • Neck: 18 , NC
  • Shoulders: 56 , NC

NATADROL: My score 9

All scores 1-10

Vascularity: 9. Chest veins never more apparent, vascularity in upper arms also improved.
Hardness: 9. From the first week forward, muscle density seemed very much improved, especially in arms/chest. Everything seemed to pop much better as well.
Fat Loss: 9. Worked better than any burner Ive tried as it helped me keep up with intense workouts, heavy lifts. Seems like lower belly fat is softer than ever, and ready to disappear anytime now..
Strength: 10. Never been this strong on a cut, ever. Didnt lose any strength on any lift (minus deads, but im scaling back awhile), and actually improved on smaller muscle group lifts (like BB curls, OH tri press)
Recovery: 8. Great. Felt like in between set recovery was slightly improved, however day to day soreness and readiness to lift improved.
Sleep: 8. Great, after taking HGHUP out of the picture.
Libido: 11. My libido was effed up towards the end as I was afraid I was gonna **** everywhere :) But before that it was like I was 16. Libido was great, but PERFORMANCE was insane. Lets just say the wife got tired out before I did, and I had to force myself to finish, every night. It was a night and day difference I have never experienced before.
Appetite: 6. For the purpose of a cut, low score. Im starving, where I normally would be fine.


Diet Changes into PCT...

full CHA/Keto, 2750 cals W/O days, 2600 non W/O days, refeeds every 24th meal

Cardio...

30 mins LISS

PCT Protocol

4/4/3/2 On Formadrol, 3/3/3/3 On Lean Xtreme. Hoping to drop 2-4 lbs of fat in PCT.

Will post end pictures following PCT.
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Thanks for taking the time to review this man! simply awesome log! Look like Natadrol was damn effective, you lost loads of fat and still gained muscle, that is impressive!

I will be running 3 bottles of Natadrol for a clean bulk and this log has me drooling at the tough of smashing the iron while loosing body fat!

I'm looking to go from 9%bf to 6-7% and I'm sure Natadrol can get me there.
I would love to see you log Ghenerate for us sometime, so make sure you keep in touch.
 
Craigmatthew said:
Thanks for taking the time to review this man! simply awesome log! Look like Natadrol was damn effective, you lost loads of fat and still gained muscle, that is impressive!

I will be running 3 bottles of Natadrol for a clean bulk and this log has me drooling at the tough of smashing the iron while loosing body fat!

I'm looking to go from 9%bf to 6-7% and I'm sure Natadrol can get me there.
I would love to see you log Ghenerate for us sometime, so make sure you keep in touch.
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No problem, I like logging stuff - keeps me busy while im not working :). No doubt, Natadrol is for real. Im sure youll get some good size on you during a bulk, I cant wait to do it myself.

Ill log Ghenerate sometime, absolutely no problem. I was thinking about getting it anyways since HGHUp gave me the sleep problems.
 
[size=+2]Day 36, Day 2 PCT - 3/1/2010.
W/O 20: Back​
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  • Overhand BB Row:
    135x12
    225x8
    275x8
    315x8
    365x8
    405x6 PR
  • Pulldown with close neutral grip handle:
    285*8*4
  • Fixed Lat Pulldown Machine:
    Stack (300)*8*4
  • Pullovers, DB
    125x8x4
  • Single arm DB rows, bent over
    125x8x3
  • Incline DB Curls
    35x12
    40x12
    45x12
    50x12 drop 30x10

30 min LISS borrrrriinngg treadmill

Impressions:
Day two of PCT, everything is great. Woke up with raging wood, took Formadrol, more raging wood. I got a free bottle of T-911, popped one of those bad boys before lifting, gave me a good energy, seemed like the pump was really good. Feelin good and wide, lat spread looks way bigger as the waist gets littler. My anniversary is on Thursday, gonna have a big cheat @ PF changs (got about 80 in gift cards :P). My refeeds have all been clean for quite a while, so a good dose of spicy chicken is in order.
 
PF changs is dank, bro. Last time I got the mongolian beef....oh man its was de-freaking-licious!
 
Phrogg said:
PF changs is dank, bro. Last time I got the mongolian beef....oh man its was de-freaking-licious!
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we're gonna get wayyyyy too much food for two. changs spicy chicken, mongo beef, lettuce wrap, and whatever the hell else looks awesome. 80 bucks will go pretty far, theyve got a meal for two deal for 40 bucks, one appetizer two entrees +soup/dessert. still gonna keep it to just food, no dessert - but im gonna destroy. ill gain a whole pound of water and itll be like nothing happened two days later - some reason chinese doesnt stick to my bones.
 
Chinese food treats me so well when on cycle with tren. I was killing this called Stir King. I would eat there like daily and I just kept getting bigger and leaner.
 
Mongo97 said:
i wish chinese food treated me like that....it goes straight to my gut.
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i think PF Changs just goes in and out without sticking due to its awesomeness. i lost weight last time i ate there, and looked filled out (in a good way) the next day like no other. honestly if you get just the chicken/beef and some brown rice its not such a bad cheat/refeed as long as you dont go ape****.
 
Tomahawk88 said:
I should have really bolded part of my post.

When on cycle with tren
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no i got that...doesn't matter what im on it still sticks to me...when on something sticks a little less.

I havent been to PF changs in a while might have to try it for a cheat day!
 
Man, idk wtf is wrong with me lately. Had about three days that were awesome with no GI issues, and then today was the nuclear holocaust. The only thing that changed is I pounded some olive oil with my chicken yesterday, and then in the afternoon had issues. Ive eliminated everything else (supps/food/water intake) that could be the cause. I think im getting enough fiber as well. Getting sick of the GI issues, gotta figure it out.
 
[size=+2]Day 38- 3/3/2010.
W/O 21: Legs​
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  • BB Squat:
    135*12*2
    225*8
    275*8
    315*8*3
  • BB SLDL:
    225*8
    245*8
    265*8
    285*8
  • Extensions:
    300*15*2
    300*20
    300*20 drop 125*10 single leg to fail
  • Standing Calf Machine:
    250*12*4
  • Seated Calf:
    4Plates*15*4
  • Hack Squat:
    2PPS*8
    3pps*8
    4pps*8*2
    5pps*6
    6pps*4 (was supposed to be 6 but died)

30 min LISS elliptical

Impressions:
GI issues still. Last two-three days were awesome, then I added back in some olive oil yesterday and everything went to **** (yes pun). So Im pulling out the EVOO and Im gonna pick up some psyllium for some extra fiber to see if it helps. Apparently my body hates keto.

Anyways, the Formadrol feels like Im still on Natadrol, which is great. Strength is about the same, weight was down to 215 this morning. I think I look leaner every day now, but these damn GI issues are bloating me up some. On a side note, I love the T-911 before lifting, great pump and energy, but it makes my mouth numb. I looked around and others are saying the same thing, but its weird.

PREPARING FOR GLORY TOMORROW, PF CHANGS @ 7PM.
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Craigmatthew said:
T911 is awesome man! The pumps for me were as good as when i was on epistane!
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yeah its good stuff. good energy for liftin... the combo of formadrol+t911 has my libido skyrocketing - wake up with wood every day/pop random as well. fun. should be good for anniversary tonite :P

10 weeks down today! Weighed 214 this morning, right on track @ 1lb a week.
 
cobfab12 said:
[size=+2]Day 40 - 3/5/2010.
W/O 22: Chest/Bis​
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  • DB Press:
    50*12*2
    100*8
    125*8*3
    125*10(fail) drop 80*6
  • BB Decline Press:
    225*8*4
  • Incline BB Press:
    225*8*4
  • Superset - BB Curls + DB Hammers
    65*8 + 45s*8
    85*8 + 45s*8
    105*8 + 45s*8
    135*8 + 45s*8
    95*16(fail) + 45s*8 (amazing huge pump)
  • Seated Incline DB Curls:
    35*12
    40*12
    45*12
    50*12

30 min LISS treadmill

Impressions:
GI **** is OVER!!! I believe I am now allergic to peanut butter/peanuts however, but **** it id rather be cool than have the threat of mudbutt. Now im back on track and feel great. DInner last night was carb fiesta, ate about 3 cups of brown rice and some lettuce wraps and mongo beef. Didnt get stuffed, but it was awesome.

Formadrol is the ****. Even better libido, morning wood, random wood, sex drive etc on this stuff. The dryness is over since getting off ND, joints feel better. VEry oily skin though, but I never breakout so no issues there. T-911 is fun too, helps with the workout.

Got me 3 bottles of Sizeon V2 in the deal of a lifetime from the three letter store, so I got a ton of intra now. Worked out to 13 dollars a bottle, I wish I had a couple hundred and I wouldve bought them out.

Scale weight still @ 214 even after PF Changs... cheating doesnt do **** to me anymore on keto, which is awesome. Muscles look full and lean, and theres just a little fat left to go on my lower belly and then the big cuts will start poppin out. Cant wait.
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[size=+2]Day 41 - 3/6/2010.
W/O 23: Shoulders/Tris​
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  • Upright Row
    135x8
    155x8
    175x8
    135*12*2
  • DB Seated Press:
    80*8
    90*8
    100*8
    110*8 (No spot, awesome form)
  • Side Laterals
    35*12
    40*12
    45*12*2
  • Rear Delt Flys
    30*12*3
  • Tri OH PRess:
    125*12*2
    125*15*2 PR for reps
  • Incline Skullcrusher Ez bar
    135*12*3
  • Weighted Dips
    +45*12*3

30 min LISS treadmill

Impressions:
Felt good today, minus some GI stuff. Thought it was over, guess not. If its not solved by Monday might drop the Lean Xtreme (im sensitive to forskolin, usually not this bad though). Also, Ive got a pulled muscle in my left side oblique/ab area and its kicking my ass.

Formadrol is working great, libido still high, lifts feel easy.
 
Nice updates man, Formadrol Extreme is an excellent product man, I have really enjoyed it the last 2 times used.

I have not used it for CPT yet, but rather solo as a test booster, which always seems to lean me up and really helps my libido.
 
Craigmatthew said:
Nice updates man, Formadrol Extreme is an excellent product man, I have really enjoyed it the last 2 times used.

I have not used it for CPT yet, but rather solo as a test booster, which always seems to lean me up and really helps my libido.
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yeah libido is much higher on Forma than ND. Seems to be working well enough, water weight is all over the place though. Seems like I fluctuate 2-3lbs a day on it whereas ND was pretty steady.

BTW, got some psyllium and I think the GI problems are correcting now. Sucks because I pulled something in my left side oblique/abs and I cant tell if my gut is cool or what. Making noises like crazy, but im much more regular feeling now.
Damn keto is like a science project.
 
[size=+2]Day 43 3/8/2010.
W/O 24: Back​
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  • Deads:
    135*12
    225*8
    275*8
    315*8
    365*8
    405*8
  • Reverse grip BB Row:
    225x8
    275x8
    315x8x2
  • Fixed Lat Pulldown Machine:
    Stack (300)*8*4
  • Pulldown with close neutral grip handle:
    300*8*4
  • Single arm rows, machine
    225*8*4
  • Pullups, wide grip
    To failure, rest pause, 21 reps
30 min LISS borrrrriinngg treadmill

Impressions:
Feelin good, great pump with T911. Formadrol has my libido off the chain, new favorite PCT product for sure. Scale weight a hair under 214, body fat (impedance measured) was at 10.1%. Top four abs looking awesome, vascularity appearing in lats, obliques, upper abs, quads. Chest vascularity is absolutely insane right now. Measurements other than hips/waist holding pretty steady, but gettin leaner. I figure about 4 more weeks and Ill be around 8.5-9%.
 
Craigmatthew said:
Which PCT products have you used in the past?
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Reversitol V1, Sustain Alpha (transdermal), PCS (AI), 6-bromo, 6-oxo

All not as PCT, but standalones. I had blood tests in late 2008, total test levels were about 320, free was also very low. Ran Reversitol, Testabolan 2, Maxout as a stack and brought my total up to 400. Doc wouldnt prescribe anything, plus I lost my insurance. Then I ran Sustain Alpha alongside Activate Xtreme+Lean Xtreme and brought my total up to 500. Went and had blood tests every 6 mos or so since and seem to be sustaining about 500 total, free is in normal range as well.

Im building my way towards real AAS, Hdrol cycle is up in April/May, gonna see how i respond, and hopefully a can run some test e/c towards the end of the year. Having trouble locating, and with moving may have to find another source.
 
cobfab12 said:
Reversitol V1, Sustain Alpha (transdermal), PCS (AI), 6-bromo, 6-oxo

All not as PCT, but standalones. I had blood tests in late 2008, total test levels were about 320, free was also very low. Ran Reversitol, Testabolan 2, Maxout as a stack and brought my total up to 400. Doc wouldnt prescribe anything, plus I lost my insurance. Then I ran Sustain Alpha alongside Activate Xtreme+Lean Xtreme and brought my total up to 500. Went and had blood tests every 6 mos or so since and seem to be sustaining about 500 total, free is in normal range as well.

Im building my way towards real AAS, Hdrol cycle is up in April/May, gonna see how i respond, and hopefully a can run some test e/c towards the end of the year. Having trouble locating, and with moving may have to find another source.
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Well you are certainly very well informed on PCT products then , so I think we can take your Formadrol Extreme observations VERY seriously. Any plans for blood tests after this PCT?

BTW, hdrol for me was a pretty decent ride, good lean gains, around 14lbs I think, in fact there is a log of mine on here from that cycle. Very few sides and good pumps.

The One from AN was about the best oral I hjave tried thus far. Epi was not very good for me, although I pulsed it, which didn't really help.
 
Craigmatthew said:
Well you are certainly very well informed on PCT products then , so I think we can take your Formadrol Extreme observations VERY seriously. Any plans for blood tests after this PCT?

BTW, hdrol for me was a pretty decent ride, good lean gains, around 14lbs I think, in fact there is a log of mine on here from that cycle. Very few sides and good pumps.

The One from AN was about the best oral I hjave tried thus far. Epi was not very good for me, although I pulsed it, which didn't really help.
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I want to get bloods before hdrol, so there is a possibility of bloods at the end of this pct. Im really looking forward to my 1st run, got everything in order and running the safe route with PCT of course (nolva). I wanted to run Epi a while back, but I chickened out. Plus I wasnt at the point I needed it yet, and after months of research I decided to wait it out. Now Im ready for the big boy tools, we'll see how it goes...
 
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back shot from 1.5 weeks ago or so, trying to get some good pics but my wife uses her camera all the time and she keeps forgetting to leave it at home.

still working on the lat spread, some reason i always lean my head too far forward, makes me look like i have no traps. this one shows traps a bit better but elbows are way too far back/pinching shoulders. needs work.

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i can do it in a mirror but cant pose for **** on the fly. theres a meet in about 12 weeks here locally, thinking about seeing where im at in 4 more weeks and maybe entering my first show for the experience. i believe id weigh about 205, and compete in novice, or juniors (dont know age limit, just says must be first contest). INBA- Southern California Natural Bodybuilding & Fitness Championships in Vista, ca... That or if im not ready I can do the Vegas Pro/Am about a month later. Ill be out there by then, just afraid moving may take its toll. Still very undecided, but Im taking up posing practice to harden up and get the movements down just in case.

Edit- i guess its in la jolla now but whatever
 
[size=+2]Day 45- 3/10/2010.
W/O 25: Legs​
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  • BB Squat:
    135*12*2
    225*8
    275*8
    295*8
    315*8
    225*26 PR for reps FUUUUUUUUUUUUU
  • Extensions:
    300*15*2
    300*20
    300*25 PR (insane focus)
  • Leg Press (plate loaded):
    7PPS*12
    8PPS*12
    9PPS*12
    10PPS*5 (felt a weird twinge in my back so I stopped there)
  • LEg Press Calf Raise:
    7PPS*15*4
  • Seated Calf:
    3P*25
    4P*25
    5P*20
    5.5P*15 drop 5P*12 drop 4P*10 drop 3P*8 drop 2P*fail in slo-mo (hell)
  • Lying Ham Curl:
    Almost the whole stack*12*4

30 min LISS tread

Impressions:
Intense pump. Squats felt ****ty today. No balance as abs are messed up from GI issues of last week :P. Anyways new PR for 225 for reps, 26 reps w/o racking. Hurt like hell, buddy spotted me from 20 on, helping a lot on last two. Also bested on Extensions for 25 with full stack. Legs were so pumped my loose fitting pants were tight by the time cardio came up.

Cutting is really starting to get to me. Part of me wants to keep going, another wants to bulk for a while since im still not working and can get some good grow time in. Seems like progress is still steady though, so Ill keep trucking and cut thru the end of this cycle. Refeed tomorrow, thank God. I need it bad. New calipers are in the mail with a whey order so I can get some accurate measurements this weekend. I believe today is the end of week 10 of cutting overall, so week 11 here we go.
 
[size=+2]Day 47 - 3/12/2010.
W/O 26: Chest/Bis​
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  • DB Press:
    50*12*2
    100*10
    125*10*2
    125*8*2
    125*8 drop 75*9
  • BB Press:
    225*8
    245*8
    275*6
    295*6
  • DB Fly:
    60*12
    70*12
    80*12*2
  • BB Curls
    85*12
    105*12
    135*10
    145*8
  • Seated Incline DB Curls:
    40*12
    45*12
    50*10
    60*8
  • Rope Hammer:
    75*12*4

30 min LISS treadmill

Impressions:
Good workout again. Went for more reps on 125s since we dont have any bigger ones. Formadrol is great, seems to work just as well as Natadrol.

Gonna lift tomorrow, but may not be able to update for a while. Leaving for Vegas tomorrow night to go meet our home inspector this coming Monday. If that goes well we are in business. Anyways, the cut might get put on hold as I wont be able to dedicate as much of myself to it, might just switch to maintenance cals for a few days. Fat loss has definitely started to slow, and I need to decrease my cals to continue. Might just call it good this weekend, clean bulk for about 2 or 3 months and run H-drol in that time, then cut up for summer. I dont know havent decided yet, but being unemployed is really starting to eat at me, and I could be growing right now :P

Ill update soon, probably next Tues.
 
decided to leave for vegas a bit earlier than expected, will update as soon as i can. gonna get to lift at golds in summerlin this weekend, pretty stoked.
 
still out here, working off ****ty hotel wifi. diet is still in check, brought some canned tuna, whey, almond butter etc. Went to Golds Summerlin, pimp facility but still not a real hardcore place. first song walking in the door was miley cirus. kill. me. nao.

anyways, staying a bit longer than expected, but having a good time, looking at another place now, much bigger than the first. home inspection turned up some minor issues in the place we were going to offer on but nothing that cant be fixed. my guest pass is good at all the Golds in the area, thinking about going to the one off the strip again. will update asap.
 
Grats on finding a nice house, hope it all works out! How is you strength staying with being off natadrol as of right now?
 
same, actually better. feel like formadrol has really upped my strength, and libido is insane. lifting at golds again today, then some more paperwork and im on my way home.
 
cobfab12 said:
[size=+2]Day 35, End of Natadrol, Beginning PCT:
Natadrol Review​
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LEAN MASS GAINED : 3+/- lbs
FAT LOST: 9+/- lbs

Starting Stats ... New Stats
  • Weight: 222 , 216
  • Body Fat: about 14% , 10.25
  • Waist (at where pants ride): 35 , 34
  • Upper Waist (above belly button): Was 35, now 32
  • Chest: 49 , slight decrease
  • Arms: 18.75 , NC
  • Quad: 28 , 27.25
  • Calves: 17 , NC
  • Neck: 18 , NC
  • Shoulders: 56 , NC

NATADROL: My score 9

All scores 1-10

Vascularity: 9. Chest veins never more apparent, vascularity in upper arms also improved.
Hardness: 9. From the first week forward, muscle density seemed very much improved, especially in arms/chest. Everything seemed to pop much better as well.
Fat Loss: 9. Worked better than any burner Ive tried as it helped me keep up with intense workouts, heavy lifts. Seems like lower belly fat is softer than ever, and ready to disappear anytime now..
Strength: 10. Never been this strong on a cut, ever. Didnt lose any strength on any lift (minus deads, but im scaling back awhile), and actually improved on smaller muscle group lifts (like BB curls, OH tri press)
Recovery: 8. Great. Felt like in between set recovery was slightly improved, however day to day soreness and readiness to lift improved.
Sleep: 8. Great, after taking HGHUP out of the picture.
Libido: 11. My libido was effed up towards the end as I was afraid I was gonna **** everywhere :) But before that it was like I was 16. Libido was great, but PERFORMANCE was insane. Lets just say the wife got tired out before I did, and I had to force myself to finish, every night. It was a night and day difference I have never experienced before.
Appetite: 6. For the purpose of a cut, low score. Im starving, where I normally would be fine.


Diet Changes into PCT...

full CHA/Keto, 2750 cals W/O days, 2600 non W/O days, refeeds every 24th meal

Cardio...

30 mins LISS

PCT Protocol

4/4/3/2 On Formadrol, 3/3/3/3 On Lean Xtreme. Hoping to drop 2-4 lbs of fat in PCT.

Will post end pictures following PCT.
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What would be a product to add for the hunger issue
 
alvin1 said:
What would be a product to add for the hunger issue
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it got better as time went on. i just started eating more greens (mostly because of GI issues/needing the fiber). honestly I wouldnt use this for a cut again, as I can see its enormous potential as a great bulking agent. i want to run it alongside something else hormonal on a bulk and see wtf happens.
 
By the end of it all... around how many bottles of each supp did you end up needing? I'm looking into stocking up Nata, M1D, Form, Ghenerate & I-GH1 at some point...
 
Naberious said:
By the end of it all... around how many bottles of each supp did you end up needing? I'm looking into stocking up Nata, M1D, Form, Ghenerate & I-GH1 at some point...
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I'd say get 2xNatadrol, 1-2xM1D, 1xFormaddrol Extreme (PCT), 1xGHenerate (will last cycle and PCT), 1xIGH1.

That amount would have you rocking for 6 weeks on cycle and includes your PCT products as well.
 
Craig, even though Natadrol aint a PH, im guessing running it at age 18 would be a bad idea. Would you say, wait till im 21+?
 
Alright, back in town finally. Got the house thing almost under control, Monday we provide proof we've got the cash and its ours in 7-14 days. Key sale FTW. Place is some awesome too, in a quieter area, sold in 2004 for 410k, we're getting it for 99k :P Highly upgraded as well, and not thrashed like most foreclosures/short sales.

Got to hit Golds in Summerlin and Henderson during the week, our house is really close to Summerlin so Im stoked. Met up with an old buddy and worked really hard this week, he cooked for me a bit too to help me out with the food situation since I ended up staying so long. Golds had DBs up to 200s, so Im stoked (our gym only goes to 125, and I love DB bench cause it doesnt hurt my messed up wrist). Actually put up the 150s for a set of 8 then a set of 6, felt awesome. Also did some O/h Tri extensions with the 150s as well and cranked out 4 sets of 8, and could hardly extend my arms the next day. Cant wait to get out there.

My buddy also has means to procure certain items I am considering trying out toward the end of this year. I want to do a cycle of T E&C come August or so, and he has a lot he can hook me up with if I take that path. We used to train here together in SD in high school/college. I was always way bigger and heavier than him by 40 lbs or so, and now hes about the same weight I am and absolutely shredded after three cycles over 2.5 years. I want to compete naturally first though, so it might be next year I hit up the dark side.

Formadrol is still great, libido is insane, hardness is about the same as ND. Only side effect so far, and I think its from the Formadrol (not 100% for sure), is bloating. Im holding a significant asston of water since starting, and my belly looks horrible. Diet is super clean, still losing fat weight, but gut is all jiggly from water retention. I can only attribute it to Forma, as its gotten progressively worse since starting, and Ive never had the problem with Lean Xtreme.

Only about a week to go til the final review, Im gonna be busy this week so expect updates to be rather sparse. Hitting chest tonight, and will try to post up if I have time.
 
Phrogg said:
Craig, even though Natadrol aint a PH, im guessing running it at age 18 would be a bad idea. Would you say, wait till im 21+?
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While Natadrol would be safe for 18+, I wqould suggest getting a few good years of training and simple supplements under your belt first such as creatine, bcaa+ eaas, fishoil, multivitamins and the odd pre workout formula
 
Yeah, been lifting pretty solid for about 1.5 years now. Been taking whey, multis,fish oils, creatine, bcaas, and pre WO NO products. Maybe in a year or so ill run some natadrol.
 
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