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sd/phera bridge 5 or 6 weeks

qwerty33

qwerty33

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So im 2 days away from the end of wk 4. Phera has been treating me nicely and i feel great, compared to when i was on sd. Should i stay on for 6 weeks or stop at 5?

Here is my doses and gains

SD: 20/20/20
Ph: 00/00/20/40/40/40

up 14.5 lbs

if i stayed on, i would stick at 40 maby up to 50mg of phera
 
is 6 weeks too long for my liver, and lipids to be out of wack? basically i do not want to push it
 
bigzach1234 said:
6 weeks is too long with the dosages your running
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Tomahawk88 said:
Id say 5 is plenty with those high of doses.
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Am I missing something? I mean I have never researched phera, but how is this too long for his doses when someone can run a:

sd: 20/20/20/0/0/0/0
Epi: 0/0/30/40/40/40

cycle? I'm a lil confused:dunno:
 
just dont want to push it, my health is numero uno and SD and phera put a great deal of stress on it. As my cardio has gone to crap.

so if i dosed the phera lower from wk 3 6 weeks would be legit, but since i ran it at 40 its to long?
 
rsr08 said:
Am I missing something? I mean I have never researched phera, but how is this too long for his doses when someone can run a:

sd: 20/20/20/0/0/0/0
Epi: 0/0/30/40/40/40

cycle? I'm a lil confused:dunno:
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qwerty33 said:
just dont want to push it, my health is numero uno and SD and phera put a great deal of stress on it. As my cardio has gone to crap.

so if i dosed the phera lower from wk 3 6 weeks would be legit, but since i ran it at 40 its to long?
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I feel Phera is stronger and is more toxic than epi. I took high doses of epi on a pulse that would be deemed suicidal with phera but felt fine.

If u had done 30 from weeks 4-6 then it would probably be better. 6 weeks on SD and phera is going to be hell on ones body period.
 
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Tomahawk88 said:
I feel Phera is stronger and is more toxic than epi. I took high doses of epi on a pulse that would be deemed suicidal with phera but felt fine.

If u had done 30 from weeks 4-6 then it would probably be better. 6 weeks on SD and phera is going to be hell on ones body period.
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Gotcha. It makes sense now. I didn't know Phera was that toxic :trink26:

I got some questions Tomahawk (not trying to hijack the thread). The dose for the bridge I mention, is that an acceptable bridge for my liver? Maybe run the Epi 30mg thru out the whole 3-6 weeks and bump up to 40 the last 2-3 days?

And say I was using CEL Cycle Assist. How would I dose it when pre loading it? I've read Mdrol is so harsh on the liver that I would need to preload for 2 weeks at full dosage, not half.

Thanks for any input man!
 
always pre load at full dose for 2 weeks, even on less harsh cycles. i have seen many logs of sd/epi 6 week runs and they all have been sweet

rsr08 said:
:trink26:

Gotcha. It makes sense now. I didn't know Phera was that toxic :trink26:

I got some questions Tomahawk (not trying to hijack the thread). The dose for the bridge I mention, is that an acceptable bridge for my liver? Maybe run the Epi 30mg thru out the whole 3-6 weeks and bump up to 40 the last 2-3 days?

And say I was using CEL Cycle Assist. How would I dose it when pre loading it? I've read Mdrol is so harsh on the liver that I would need to preload for 2 weeks at full dosage, not half.

Thanks for any input man!
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rsr08 said:
:trink26:

Gotcha. It makes sense now. I didn't know Phera was that toxic :trink26:

I got some questions Tomahawk (not trying to hijack the thread). The dose for the bridge I mention, is that an acceptable bridge for my liver? Maybe run the Epi 30mg thru out the whole 3-6 weeks and bump up to 40 the last 2-3 days?

And say I was using CEL Cycle Assist. How would I dose it when pre loading it? I've read Mdrol is so harsh on the liver that I would need to preload for 2 weeks at full dosage, not half.

Thanks for any input man!
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All 17aa r extremely toxic.

It really depends on how u respond to both especially the epi. I would probably go on the higher end of the spectrum because I know I do so well with it and can handle it.

Well what u can do is run half dosage and get some Liver Juice by Primordial Performance to help supplement ur liver support. But it would be a better idea to run at full dose and add in the extra liver juice. Superdrol is double methylated.
 
Tomahawk88 said:
All 17aa r extremely toxic.

It really depends on how u respond to both especially the epi. I would probably go on the higher end of the spectrum because I know I do so well with it and can handle it.

Well what u can do is run half dosage and get some Liver Juice by Primordial Performance to help supplement ur liver support. But it would be a better idea to run at full dose and add in the extra liver juice. Superdrol is double methylated.
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I like the idea of the Liverjuice. When would I add in the extra liver juice? I was thinking take my dose of CEL Cycle Assist 12 hours apart (2-3 hours from taking my steroid doses) so when would I add the liver juice?
 
rsr08 said:
I like the idea of the Liverjuice. When would I add in the extra liver juice? I was thinking take my dose of CEL Cycle Assist 12 hours apart (2-3 hours from taking my steroid doses) so when would I add the liver juice?
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I take my dose of Liver Juice at night. I am on Turinabol LV so I am not going super crazy with liver support supps. 2 servings of Cycle Support by AI and 1 serving of Liver Juice by PP.
 
qwerty33 said:
just dont want to push it, my health is numero uno and SD and phera put a great deal of stress on it. As my cardio has gone to crap.

so if i dosed the phera lower from wk 3 6 weeks would be legit, but since i ran it at 40 its to long?
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I would also say that the doses you have lined out in the first post will be too harsh for 6wks....if you do want to do a 6wk cycle...lower the dose of the phera maybe even to 30mg...your liver will thank you :thumbsup:
 
bulldogz said:
I would also say that the doses you have lined out in the first post will be too harsh for 6wks....if you do want to do a 6wk cycle...lower the dose of the phera maybe even to 30mg...your liver will thank you :thumbsup:
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agreed i think im going to stay on for 5 1/2 and lower phera to 30mg
 
Tomahawk88 said:
I take my dose of Liver Juice at night. I am on Turinabol LV so I am not going super crazy with liver support supps. 2 servings of Cycle Support by AI and 1 serving of Liver Juice by PP.
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So when would I take my servings of each for Mdrol?
 
qwerty33 said:
spaced out evenly. so if 2 caps a day uppon waking then 12 h later

if you have trouble sleeping. take 1 waking then again at 5pm
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I meant the liver protection, along w/ the cycle assist.
 
qwerty33 said:
12 h apart
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? I dunno if you get what I'm saying...

I wanna take Liver Protection from PP, along w/ CEL Cycle Assist for my bridge so my liver can be fully protected. So how would I dose all of them?
 
start taking 14 days pre cycle both cycle assist and liver juice. 1 scoop and 1 shot uppon wakeing, then same pre bed.
 
qwerty33 said:
start taking 14 days pre cycle both cycle assist and liver juice. 1 scoop and 1 shot uppon wakeing, then same pre bed.
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ah, so I can take the shot the same time w/ the cycle assist dose?
 
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