Testing for Superdrol possible?

Ator

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Drug tests will soon be mad at my local gym - if we dont do them we
risk being thrown out... so the obvious question:

Will Superdrol show on any test?

(I dont know if its going to be a blood or urine test)
 
Ator said:
Drug tests will soon be mad at my local gym - if we dont do them we
risk being thrown out... so the obvious question:

Will Superdrol show on any test?

(I dont know if its going to be a blood or urine test)
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Drug test? At your Gym?!?! What the **** kinda **** is that? Is that legal? I don't know about you, but I'd go find another gym. That's BS. That really does not make any sense whatsoever to me. WTF!
 
Well, I am not in the US...
And there is no other gym to choose from around this
part of town, so I have no choice. I am currently not on SD, so right now
it really doesnt matter, but I need to know - is it going to show up?
 
That's the strangest thing I've ever heard.
I'm not sure about the test thing though.
Best of luck to ya.
 
Ator said:
Well, I am not in the US...
And there is no other gym to choose from around this
part of town, so I have no choice. I am currently not on SD, so right now
it really doesnt matter, but I need to know - is it going to show up?
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That's still retarded. What country? I doubt it'll show up, but I'm sure Sledge would know for sure.
 
Sweden.
I guess this is mainly done to catch people on recreational drugs.
And yes, they have no right to force anyone to be tested, but they have the
right to exclude members if they suspect use of drugs.
 
What the **** country is that? Australia? or maybe an Arabic country or maybe in South America???

Hey how about France :hammer:
 
I reallydoubt they will have developed a test specifically for Superdrol. What they may do is run testosterone levels and maybe look for artificial estrogen levels, the presence of popular ancilliary drugs, etc. -- I would say that such a sign is there mainly to discourage open steroid use, but with the government size and invasiveness in Sweden, they might run full tests on the taxpayer's dime just because they can. Swift idea.
 
damn, what a bunch of dickheads. if they say they're gonna test me at the gym, i'd tell em to go **** themselves. invasion of privacy to the 10th power.
 
Beelzebub said:
damn, what a bunch of dickheads. if they say they're gonna test me at the gym, i'd tell em to go **** themselves. invasion of privacy to the 10th power.
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Yeah but thats because your an American. Most other places on this planet don't have our Bill of Rights so they go along with crap like this.
 
Strateg0s said:
I reallydoubt they will have developed a test specifically for Superdrol. What they may do is run testosterone levels and maybe look for artificial estrogen levels, the presence of popular ancilliary drugs, etc. -- I would say that such a sign is there mainly to discourage open steroid use, but with the government size and invasiveness in Sweden, they might run full tests on the taxpayer's dime just because they can. Swift idea.
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So SD shouldnt be seen in tests then? Or does it raise test levels?
(Hmmm... havent read enough about SD apparently... please enlighten me!)
 
What he means is that superdrol might not be detectable yet. Or maybe tests already can since its structurally close to masteron/anadrol.

But you really need to do more search on steroids and prohormones if you think its going to raise testosterone levels - seriously.
 
Dogg, there is no way that superdrol is going to be one of the drugs they test for. You will, however, still look doped as your natural test is going to be low. This is why Bonds was forced to use the "cream" with the "clear" as the cream, a mixture of epotest and test, made him look natural.
 
Ator said:
Sweden.
I guess this is mainly done to catch people on recreational drugs.
And yes, they have no right to force anyone to be tested, but they have the
right to exclude members if they suspect use of drugs.
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Damn socialists!! :rant:

That's so messed up!! Anyway, I DOUBT it'll show up, b/c although rec. drug tests are very cheap, steroid drug tests are ver expensive and they're most likely not testing you for anything but rec drugs.

Plus, I don't think they will check you r methasteron levels :D
 
That is going to be very expensive to test for steroids. What a fucking stupid idea, esp. if taxpayer dollars are paying for that.

SDrol will not be able to be distinguished (unless the Swedish feds are on to AM by now). Just because it is an analog of anadrol and masteron does not make it detecable because those are. It is a completely different molecule. It has a different 3-d structure, different metabolites, etc.
 
Do roid tests have to be done by blood or can they be done with urine? The reason I ask is because I don't see how roid tests are so expensive if they can be tested for by pissing in a cup.
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
Damn socialists!! :rant:
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that's exactly it. But watch out, Coming to a theater (country) near you....
:frustrate
 
Deoudes59 said:
that's exactly it. But watch out, Coming to a theater (country) near you....
:frustrate
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I know, I'm worried.

LOL. Did you hear Michael Savage was considering a run in '08? I was listening to him give his theory behind his presence and how it should cause the republicans to go more to the right and actually be conservatives. He's a funny guy. Hell, I'd vote for him--but, I'm in cali, so as a conservative my vote does count...lol

(BTW, I think we're in the wrong thread and forum for this :p)
 
MarcusG said:
What he means is that superdrol might not be detectable yet. Or maybe tests already can since its structurally close to masteron/anadrol.

But you really need to do more search on steroids and prohormones if you think its going to raise testosterone levels - seriously.
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I meant surpress of course... my misstake.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback. Back to serving my socialist big brother country... grrr.
 
jmh80 said:
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SDrol will not be able to be distinguished (unless the Swedish feds are on to AM by now). Just because it is an analog of anadrol and masteron does not make it detecable because those are. It is a completely different molecule. It has a different 3-d structure, different metabolites, etc.
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Do you absolutely know that for certain that it cannot share any metabolites as other steroids?

On another note, I never understood why 1-test if it is a reduced form of boldenone is considered to be undetectable.
 
No Marcus I don't know that for certain, but I figure w/ a completely different chemical it should. As far as boldenone and 1-test, they are completely different molecules, that's why it would be undectable.
 
There is no specific test for superdol. It's metabolim is clean and it forms no test or estro or masteron, so it should be totally passive on a drug test. I'm not sure what it's retention time would be on a mass spec or LC, but it's invisble to current test methods no doubt. A method would have to be prepared and validated before they could explain any foreign peaks on the chromo, and that isn't even posssible since there is no reference standard for superdrol. In other words, even if they saw "it" on the test, they have no definition for what "it" is. So your safe.
 
jmh80 said:
No Marcus I don't know that for certain, but I figure w/ a completely different chemical it should. As far as boldenone and 1-test, they are completely different molecules, that's why it would be undectable.
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Testing is not only done for the parent compound but for metabolites it produces. As the compound gets broken down and excreted, I would think that all sorts of different metabolites would appear.

1-test was not an unknown steroid like superdrol when it came out as a 'supplement lotion'. And it is a primary metabolite of boldenone.

DR.D said:
There is no specific test for superdol. It's metabolim is clean and it forms no test or estro or masteron, so it should be totally passive on a drug test. I'm not sure what it's retention time would be on a mass spec or LC, but it's invisble to current test methods no doubt.....
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Yes there is no reference standard but what I didn't know was that it does not produce any metabolites - is that what you are saying?? How come?
 
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MarcusG said:
Yes there is no reference standard but what I didn't know was that it does not produce any metabolites - is that what you are saying?? How come?
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Yes, that's what I'm saying. It's not metabolized. First off, 17-alkylated steroids are never metabolized at the 17 position because the enzyme is sterically and chemically hindered from oxidizing the tertiary alcohol but the 3 ketone is equally protected by the reduced A ring and 2-alkyl sub so no estro or DHT formation either. 1 and 2-methylated androgens are not shown to be demethylated at these positions to any degree. There just isn't an enzyme sytem in the body to break it down. The only know metabolites would be 3, 6 or 11-OH and only in very trace amounts. Dbol forms a gillion metabolites, it would be one of the worst if your being tested.
 
:goodpost: Dr. D - organic chem all over again. I remember the protecting groups. Anyway, so SDrol will not be broken down by the body but Dbol will? What is it about Dbol that gives it the various metabolites.
 
Dbol is unsaturated at two points on the A-ring which makes it inherently more reactive. Plus it has no branching off of this ring so there is no steric protection from enzymatic attack. It forms metabolites that are even further metabolized, untill it's finally MDHT or something close. That's if it doesn't form methylestrogen or get used at a receptor site first. The more you take, the more the liver is overtaken and the metabolites start to become signifigant, that's another issue, but SD is clean, good stuff. It's also non-progestinic, unlike THG, so it's a great choice for tested individuals requiring strength, size and endurance gains. SD is disigned to be highly anabolic and also very dry and clean too, I love it.
 
DR.D said:
Dbol is unsaturated at two points on the A-ring which makes it inherently more reactive. Plus it has no branching off of this ring so there is no steric protection from enzymatic attack. It forms metabolites that are even further metabolized, untill it's finally MDHT or something close. That's if it doesn't form methylestrogen or get used at a receptor site first. The more you take, the more the liver is overtaken and the metabolites start to become signifigant, that's another issue, but SD is clean, good stuff. It's also non-progestinic, unlike THG, so it's a great choice for tested individuals requiring strength, size and endurance gains. SD is disigned to be highly anabolic and also very dry and clean too, I love it.
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Damn Dr.D knows his stuff! :goodpost:
 
DR.D said:
Yes, that's what I'm saying. It's not metabolized. First off, 17-alkylated steroids are never metabolized at the 17 position because the enzyme is sterically and chemically hindered from oxidizing the tertiary alcohol but the 3 ketone is equally protected by the reduced A ring and 2-alkyl sub so no estro or DHT formation either. 1 and 2-methylated androgens are not shown to be demethylated at these positions to any degree. There just isn't an enzyme sytem in the body to break it down. The only know metabolites would be 3, 6 or 11-OH and only in very trace amounts. Dbol forms a gillion metabolites, it would be one of the worst if your being tested.
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That's the key issue here, what, if any, metabolites are left as a residual trace. There are Poisons that a GCMS can identify in it's original state, but because they metabolize into elements common in the body, they are undetectable within a short time of application.Don't believe that CSI showbiz stuff, the moron who uses heavy metals or rat poison is sure to be caught, but there are things around that no magic machine can define.
 
RD is correct. It's funny, I use to know a nurse that told me if she was ever going to kill someone, she'd use insulin because it would be quite toxic and effective, but natural and not raise eyebrows.

I remember thinking that her strategy was brilliant, then I remembered thinking, I better stop sharing needles with that crazy bitch! :D (that's a joke guys, they always hate jokes like that when I go to donate blood, wonder why?)
 
Rogue Drone said:
This is something I would normally PM to you, Doc.

Her name wasn't Beverly Allitt, was it?

"In 1991, 23-year-old nurse Beverly Allitt killed at least four children and injected twenty-plus others with potassium or insulin with an intent to kill. She was convicted by a Magistrate's Court in 1993 and is now serving thirteen life sentences."

Here's another guy who used Insulin likewise back in '68
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It's better than those sick fucks who use thallium or ground diamonds, a favorite method of the Renissance Italy Borgia Family. The diamond dust embeds in the intestines and the ongoing intestinal contractions slowly and painfully grinds the victim's guts away, nasty.

Back to a healthier tone of discussion, like starting a Libertarian party and having a tax revolt in Sweden.
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Thallium is such a knock off, it doesn't naturally occcur to any great extent in the body except with accumulation over time, and it's a bone seeker. I was unaware of those cases.

As for the Swedish tax revolution, just name the time and place and I'm with ya' buddy!!
 
still undetectable?

hey guys. it's been a while since any posts on this thread, and i am interested if superdrol is still undetectable. also, is it even possible for a test to be developed for it. i'm thinking about stocking up on some to use in the future, but i'm just not sure if they will come up with a test in the next few months/years. ideas? thoughts? opinions? facts? thanks.
 
snake32 said:
hey guys. it's been a while since any posts on this thread, and i am interested if superdrol is still undetectable. also, is it even possible for a test to be developed for it. i'm thinking about stocking up on some to use in the future, but i'm just not sure if they will come up with a test in the next few months/years. ideas? thoughts? opinions? facts? thanks.
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I am unaware of any SOP in place. There is no dectection protocol that I have heard of on the horizon either. It is possible to prepare a method, of course, but this can not be done until a certified lab creats a standard by which to test from. Otherwise, who knows what that extra peak is in the chromo?
 
great. thanks. if you ever do hear of a developed test for it, would you be so kind to post a thread to warn us users of it? that would be good.
 
snake32 said:
great. thanks. if you ever do hear of a developed test for it, would you be so kind to post a thread to warn us users of it? that would be good.
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Yes, of course I will. :thumbsup:
 
dr. d or anyone else who knows...i am on probation and they do test for steriods will superdrol show up or not...has anyone had a test that was being tested for steriods who took superdrol thanks
 
Ator said:
Drug tests will soon be mad at my local gym - if we dont do them we
risk being thrown out... so the obvious question:

Will Superdrol show on any test?

(I dont know if its going to be a blood or urine test)
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Time to start building a home gym..
 
java said:
dr. d or anyone else who knows...i am on probation and they do test for steriods will superdrol show up or not...has anyone had a test that was being tested for steriods who took superdrol thanks
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It should not show up on a real MS ot LC u.a. but some generic enzyme tests (like probation officers do) may show that "something" is in the urine. I have recently heard of a case like this, but I suspect that another steroid may have been present too that actually gave the positive result. A specific SD test is not available yet to my knowledge, but it's probably just a matter of time if the popularity of SD continues to increase.
 
ryansm said:
DMT is testable at least on the USADA, and WADA levels.
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Thanks for the heads-up Ryansm, I was unaware that e-max/PP was testable. DMT is not a "controlled substance" but if these sports organizations are aware of it, it really doesn't matter.
 
Not controlled, but certainly known of, and I'm sure I don't need to explain how much USADA is a hard ass.:rolleyes:
 
ryansm said:
Not controlled, but certainly known of, and I'm sure I don't need to explain how much USADA is a hard ass.:rolleyes:
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I've heard the list is pretty long alright. Not even Sudafed or caffeine, right?
 
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