H-Drol PCT Question. Calling all with Experience....

b9cist

b9cist

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I'm an older guy, about to try my first cycle of PHs after months of planning and reading. Decided to go with H-drol. I've also decided to go with an OTC PCT (but will have Nolva on hand in case problems should arise). I've posted my stats below as well as my cycle plan. I'd like some comments and/or suggestions from those with experience with H-drol and OTC PCT. I developed my PCT using the H-drol Bible (Invalid Link Removed) as a reference. I also read OTCPCT.com, but the bible seemed a little more thorough. And of course I have searched through the hundreds of forum posts on this site and others.

My questions are:
1) How does the PCT below look? I'm using the Novedex XT because I already have it.
2) How's the H-drol dosing look considering my size? Keep in mind this is my first cylce...
3) For those with H-drol experience, how much of your mass gains did you keep? How much of your strength gains did you keep?
4) When dosing 75mg, is it better to take the 50 mg in the morning, or directly before the afternoon workout?
5) Should I start the Lean Xtreme the day after the cycle ends or wait until week 2? I've read different views on this.
6) Anyone close to my age tried this stuff? How did you feel on cycle and afterwards?

My Stats
Age: 37
Weight: 253 Height: 6' 0"
Lifting Experience: 20 years (since High School)
Diet: On workout day: Cal 4300+, Pro 350+, Carbs 470+, Fats 110+
Rest days: Cal 3600+, Pro 250+, Carbs 420+, Fats 100+
Workout: 3-days – Mon: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps, Wed: Back, Biceps, Fri: Legs
Goal for Cycle – Put on 10 lbs of muscle. Bust through some plateus.
Previous PH/DS Experience - None
Cycle Plan (Based on H-drol Bible)

Staples
Fish Oil - 3000 mg per meal
BCAA - 10g before and after workout
Multi-vitamin – Upon waking
Whey Protein - 50g w/ breakfast everyday, on workout days 50g also before and after workout.
Food - Lots and lots of food....

Week 1
Cycle Support 2.0 pre-load - 1 scoop in the morning, 1 in the afternoon

Week 2 & 3
H-drol - 50 mg per day: 25mg in the morning and preworkout
Cycle Support 2.0 - 1 scoop in the morning, 1 in the afternoon

Week 4, 5 & 6
H-drol - 75 mg per day: 25mg in the morning, 50 preworkout
Cycle Support 2.0 - 1 scoop in the morning, 1 in the afternoon

PCT
Week 7 & 8
Will continue taking Cycle Support 2.0 until it runs out
Post-Cycle Support - 2 caps in the morning, 2 in the afternoon
Lean Xtreme - 3 caps (1 upon waking, 1 4 hrs later, another 4 hrs later)

Weeks 9 & 10
Post-Cycle Support - 2 caps in the morning, 2 in the afternoon
Lean Xtreme - 3 caps (1 upon waking, 1 4 hrs later, another 4 hrs later)
Novedex XT - 2 caps at bedtime
Activate Xtreme - 2 caps in the morning, 2 in the afternoon

Weeks 11 & 12
Novedex XT - 2 caps at bedtime
Activate Xtreme - 2 caps in the morning, 2 in the afternoon

Again, thanks for any help. Sorry for adding another H-drol log to the forum, but there is a certain level of comfort in having your own questions addressed.

b9
 
b9cist said:
I'm an older guy, about to try my first cycle of PHs after months of planning and reading. Decided to go with H-drol. I've also decided to go with an OTC PCT (but will have Nolva on hand in case problems should arise). I've posted my stats below as well as my cycle plan. I'd like some comments and/or suggestions from those with experience with H-drol and OTC PCT. I developed my PCT using the H-drol Bible (Invalid Link Removed) as a reference. I also read OTCPCT.com, but the bible seemed a little more thorough. And of course I have searched through the hundreds of forum posts on this site and others.

My questions are:
1) How does the PCT below look? I'm using the Novedex XT because I already have it.
2) How's the H-drol dosing look considering my size? Keep in mind this is my first cylce...
3) For those with H-drol experience, how much of your mass gains did you keep? How much of your strength gains did you keep?
4) When dosing 75mg, is it better to take the 50 mg in the morning, or directly before the afternoon workout?
5) Should I start the Lean Xtreme the day after the cycle ends or wait until week 2? I've read different views on this.
6) Anyone close to my age tried this stuff? How did you feel on cycle and afterwards?

My Stats
Age: 37
Weight: 253 Height: 6' 0"
Lifting Experience: 20 years (since High School)
Diet: On workout day: Cal 4300+, Pro 350+, Carbs 470+, Fats 110+
Rest days: Cal 3600+, Pro 250+, Carbs 420+, Fats 100+
Workout: 3-days – Mon: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps, Wed: Back, Biceps, Fri: Legs
Goal for Cycle – Put on 10 lbs of muscle. Bust through some plateus.
Previous PH/DS Experience - None
Cycle Plan (Based on H-drol Bible)

Staples
Fish Oil - 3000 mg per meal
BCAA - 10g before and after workout
Multi-vitamin – Upon waking
Whey Protein - 50g w/ breakfast everyday, on workout days 50g also before and after workout.
Food - Lots and lots of food....

Week 1
Cycle Support 2.0 pre-load - 1 scoop in the morning, 1 in the afternoon

Week 2 & 3
H-drol - 50 mg per day: 25mg in the morning and preworkout
Cycle Support 2.0 - 1 scoop in the morning, 1 in the afternoon

Week 4, 5 & 6
H-drol - 75 mg per day: 25mg in the morning, 50 preworkout
Cycle Support 2.0 - 1 scoop in the morning, 1 in the afternoon

PCT
Week 7 & 8
Will continue taking Cycle Support 2.0 until it runs out
Post-Cycle Support - 2 caps in the morning, 2 in the afternoon
Lean Xtreme - 3 caps (1 upon waking, 1 4 hrs later, another 4 hrs later)

Weeks 9 & 10
Post-Cycle Support - 2 caps in the morning, 2 in the afternoon
Lean Xtreme - 3 caps (1 upon waking, 1 4 hrs later, another 4 hrs later)
Novedex XT - 2 caps at bedtime
Activate Xtreme - 2 caps in the morning, 2 in the afternoon

Weeks 11 & 12
Novedex XT - 2 caps at bedtime
Activate Xtreme - 2 caps in the morning, 2 in the afternoon

Again, thanks for any help. Sorry for adding another H-drol log to the forum, but there is a certain level of comfort in having your own questions addressed.

b9
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I like it a lot. When I ran it I also used PCS and LX. Had great results and was fine after pct.
 
b9cist said:
I'm an older guy, about to try my first cycle of PHs after months of planning and reading. Decided to go with H-drol. I've also decided to go with an OTC PCT (but will have Nolva on hand in case problems should arise). I've posted my stats below as well as my cycle plan. I'd like some comments and/or suggestions from those with experience with H-drol and OTC PCT. I developed my PCT using the H-drol Bible (Invalid Link Removed) as a reference. I also read OTCPCT.com, but the bible seemed a little more thorough. And of course I have searched through the hundreds of forum posts on this site and others.

My questions are:
1) How does the PCT below look? I'm using the Novedex XT because I already have it.
2) How's the H-drol dosing look considering my size? Keep in mind this is my first cylce...
3) For those with H-drol experience, how much of your mass gains did you keep? How much of your strength gains did you keep?
4) When dosing 75mg, is it better to take the 50 mg in the morning, or directly before the afternoon workout?
5) Should I start the Lean Xtreme the day after the cycle ends or wait until week 2? I've read different views on this.
6) Anyone close to my age tried this stuff? How did you feel on cycle and afterwards?

My Stats
Age: 37
Weight: 253 Height: 6' 0"
Lifting Experience: 20 years (since High School)
Diet: On workout day: Cal 4300+, Pro 350+, Carbs 470+, Fats 110+
Rest days: Cal 3600+, Pro 250+, Carbs 420+, Fats 100+
Workout: 3-days – Mon: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps, Wed: Back, Biceps, Fri: Legs
Goal for Cycle – Put on 10 lbs of muscle. Bust through some plateus.
Previous PH/DS Experience - None
Cycle Plan (Based on H-drol Bible)

Staples
Fish Oil - 3000 mg per meal
BCAA - 10g before and after workout
Multi-vitamin – Upon waking
Whey Protein - 50g w/ breakfast everyday, on workout days 50g also before and after workout.
Food - Lots and lots of food....

Week 1
Cycle Support 2.0 pre-load - 1 scoop in the morning, 1 in the afternoon

Week 2 & 3
H-drol - 50 mg per day: 25mg in the morning and preworkout
Cycle Support 2.0 - 1 scoop in the morning, 1 in the afternoon

Week 4, 5 & 6
H-drol - 75 mg per day: 25mg in the morning, 50 preworkout
Cycle Support 2.0 - 1 scoop in the morning, 1 in the afternoon

PCT
Week 7 & 8
Will continue taking Cycle Support 2.0 until it runs out
Post-Cycle Support - 2 caps in the morning, 2 in the afternoon
Lean Xtreme - 3 caps (1 upon waking, 1 4 hrs later, another 4 hrs later)

Weeks 9 & 10
Post-Cycle Support - 2 caps in the morning, 2 in the afternoon
Lean Xtreme - 3 caps (1 upon waking, 1 4 hrs later, another 4 hrs later)
Novedex XT - 2 caps at bedtime
Activate Xtreme - 2 caps in the morning, 2 in the afternoon

Weeks 11 & 12
Novedex XT - 2 caps at bedtime
Activate Xtreme - 2 caps in the morning, 2 in the afternoon

Again, thanks for any help. Sorry for adding another H-drol log to the forum, but there is a certain level of comfort in having your own questions addressed.

b9
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Looks very close to what i'm bout to run....
 
Just wondering why you start Novedex XT at week 3 of PCT?
I like the look of the stack, should be a nice frist run




Edit( I just read H-drol Bible, you changed ShockerNutrition – TS2 with Novedex XT for the AI)
 
froggy543 said:
Just wondering why you start Novedex XT at week 3 of PCT?
I like the look of the stack, should be a nice frist run




Edit( I just read H-drol Bible, you changed ShockerNutrition – TS2 with Novedex XT for the AI)
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The AI,s are usually run starting in week 3 if you are running multiple pct products more so with a SERM. It is done because some people come off a SERM they can get estro rebound and the AI should take care of that.
 
pembroke3355 said:
The AI,s are usually run starting in week 3 if you are running multiple pct products more so with a SERM. It is done because some people come off a SERM they can get estro rebound and the AI should take care of that.
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Ok here's what I got. I just ordered my CA and PCS, along with Lean Extreme and Inhibit-E. Should I start my Lean Extreme the first day of PCT and my Inhibit-E on Week 3 of PCT?

Staples:
Protein & Recomp Diet
Multivitamin
Omega-3
BCAAs

Week 1
pre-load Cycle Support

Week 2
Cycle Support 2.0
50mg Halo-X

Week 3
Cycle Support 2.0
75mg Halo-X

Week 4
Cycle Support 2.0
75mg Halo-X

Week 5
Cycle Support 2.0
75mg Halo-X

Week 6
Cycle Support 2.0
75mg Halo-X

Week 7
Cycle Support 2.0
75mg Halo-X

Week 8
PCS
Lean Extreme?

Week 9
PCS
Lean Extreme?

Week 10
PCS
Lean Extreme?
Inhibit-E?

Week 11
PCS
Lean Extreme? til runs out
Inhibit-E? til runs out
 
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statik said:
Ok here's what I got. I just ordered my CA and PCS, along with Lean Extreme and Inhibit-E. Should I start my Lean Extreme the first day of PCT and my Inhibit-E on Week 3 of PCT?

Staples:
Protein & Recomp Diet
Multivitamin
Omega-3
BCAAs

Week 1
pre-load Cycle Support

Week 2
Cycle Support 2.0
50mg Halo-X

Week 3
Cycle Support 2.0
75mg Halo-X

Week 4
Cycle Support 2.0
75mg Halo-X

Week 5
Cycle Support 2.0
75mg Halo-X

Week 6
Cycle Support 2.0
75mg Halo-X

Week 7
Cycle Support 2.0
75mg Halo-X

Week 8
PCS
Lean Extreme?

Week 9
PCS
Lean Extreme?

Week 10
PCS
Lean Extreme?
Inhibit-E?

Week 11
PCS
Lean Extreme? til runs out
Inhibit-E? til runs out
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Looks good I may wait till week 10 to start the LX also and run it till it is finished as cortisol is not a huge problem right away after a cycle. Good luck.
 
that's a very well thought out cycle, especially for a first timer. i like the fact that its now a 6 week run, as you should be able to pull that off with minimal suppression (IMO).

the only question i actually have is for pembroke - are 2 scoops of cycle support really necessary for a rather mild, and mild on the liver compound like halodrol?
 
suncloud said:
that's a very well thought out cycle, especially for a first timer. i like the fact that its now a 6 week run, as you should be able to pull that off with minimal suppression (IMO).

the only question i actually have is for pembroke - are 2 scoops of cycle support really necessary for a rather mild, and mild on the liver compound like halodrol?
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Suggested but really necessary I cannot honestly answer that. Depends on the person as some have BP issues on this compound while other not so much. If you want to try 1/2 a scoop 2 times a day go for it but have your BP checked and if you do this let us know how you make out. I would keep the dosing at 2 times a day no matter if it is a full or partial scoop.
 
pembroke3355 said:
Looks good I may wait till week 10 to start the LX also and run it till it is finished as cortisol is not a huge problem right away after a cycle. Good luck.
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So PCS only for 8-9 and start Inhibit-E and LX on week 10. Sounds good to me. I'm anxious now to see what I gain being that this is my first cycle.
 
statik said:
So PCS only for 8-9 and start Inhibit-E and LX on week 10. Sounds good to me. I'm anxious now to see what I gain being that this is my first cycle.
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Eat good and clean train like a beast and just as hard in pct and you should get good gains. Also get proper rest.
 
suncloud said:
that's a very well thought out cycle, especially for a first timer. i like the fact that its now a 6 week run, as you should be able to pull that off with minimal suppression (IMO).

the only question i actually have is for pembroke - are 2 scoops of cycle support really necessary for a rather mild, and mild on the liver compound like halodrol?
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Thanks. Yeah I was wondering how much CS I would need to actually dose as well. My BP is very stable but I always say better safe than sorry, so I'll prolly dose normal.

Your sig is hilarious too btw.
 
statik said:
Thanks. Yeah I was wondering how much CS I would need to actually dose as well. My BP is very stable but I always say better safe than sorry, so I'll prolly dose normal.

Your sig is hilarious too btw.
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Thanks bro if you only knew how much work I had to do without exceeding the max characters. It was a real job LOL!!!
 
pembroke3355 said:
Eat good and clean train like a beast and just as hard in pct and you should get good gains. Also get proper rest.
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Well I think I can do all that, as my diets and training have never been a problem before.

The only thing that concerns me is proper rest. My job is a bitch when it comes to getting the right amount of sleep. Very few hours and very inconsistent.
 
statik said:
Well I think I can do all that, as my diets and training have never been a problem before.

The only thing that concerns me is proper rest. My job is a bitch when it comes to getting the right amount of sleep. Very few hours and very inconsistent.
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Do your best that is all you can do.:)
 
pembroke3355 said:
Also do not take a h-drol dose to near to going to bed as it can effect sleep.
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on that note, h-drol has a half life of 16 hours. meaning if you dose 50mg, 16 hours later there will be 25mg in your system. 16 hours after that, there will still be 12.5mg in your system - all the while you're still taking your daily dose by 50-75mg. so don't be shy of dosing it pretty far from bedtime.
 
suncloud said:
on that note, h-drol has a half life of 16 hours. meaning if you dose 50mg, 16 hours later there will be 25mg in your system. 16 hours after that, there will still be 12.5mg in your system - all the while you're still taking your daily dose by 50-75mg. so don't be shy of dosing it pretty far from bedtime.
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Yeah I figured that. I figure I would dose early in the AM when I first get up and again in the afternoon. Say 4 am and 4 pm. Which when you are dosing 75 I figure I should make the AM a 50 and the pm a 25. Or should I split it 3 ways?
 
shouldn't matter. personally, i usually dose my largest dose before working out (AM), and my smaller dose post workout. with hdrols long half life, dosing is very easy. tren is the one you have to space out much more carefully.
 
suncloud said:
shouldn't matter. personally, i usually dose my largest dose before working out (AM), and my smaller dose post workout. with hdrols long half life, dosing is very easy. tren is the one you have to space out much more carefully.
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Yeah I figured that about Hdrol. Speaking of Tren, I'm glad you said that. I'm bout to order some Phera-Tren Xfor my next cycle. I'm gonna have to do some major research to set that cycle and PCT up. Since it contains Tren and Havoc do you have to space out exact hours?

Each capsule contains:

Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione ... 35 mg (known as Tren)

2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallocholanol ... 10 mg (known as Havoc)
 
suncloud said:
shouldn't matter. personally, i usually dose my largest dose before working out (AM), and my smaller dose post workout. with hdrols long half life, dosing is very easy. tren is the one you have to space out much more carefully.
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That is what I did when at 75mg I did 50 at about 9 a.m. and the other 25 about 4 or 5 p.m.
 
pembroke3355 said:
That is what I did when at 75mg I did 50 at about 9 a.m. and the other 25 about 4 or 5 p.m.
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ok so it doesn't have to be 12 hours apart. or 3 doses 8 hours apart. I wasn't quite sure. I also noticed people on the board talking about spacing the Hdrol with the cycle assist: 4 hours apart. What is the science behind that?
 
If you have a SERM on hand why would you not use it? H-drol will shut you down pretty hard, and sure you will recover with OTC but a SERM will do it faster and cheaper.
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rckvl7 said:
If you have a SERM on hand why would you not use it? H-drol will shut you down pretty hard, and sure you will recover with OTC but a SERM will do it faster and cheaper.
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You can't see the link you posted for bloodwork. Also, there has been plenty of bloodwork shown for OTC PCT for Hdrol. Not saying that Hdrol can't/won't shut you down, but it should be very mild, if at all.

Not to mention I'm only dosing at 75. If I were to dose at 100-125 I would def use a SERM, because such a high dose is asking for sides and shutdown.

Not to mention, at least with CA and PCS and the rest of the OTC PCT, I know what I'm getting. A lot of these research sites sell bunk **** as SERMs and it's not exactly legal, so you are taking just as much chance putting that into your body, as you are by just using an OTC PCT.
 
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statik said:
You can't see the link you posted for bloodwork. Also, there has been plenty of bloodwork shown for OTC PCT for Hdrol. Not saying that Hdrol can't/won't shut you down, but it should be very mild, if at all.

Not to mention I'm only dosing at 75. If I were to dose at 100-125 I would def use a SERM, because such a high dose is asking for sides and shutdown.

Not to mention, at least with CA and PCS and the rest of the OTC PCT, I know what I'm getting. A lot of these research sites sell bunk **** as SERMs and it's not exactly legal, so you are taking just as much chance putting that into your body, as you are by just using an OTC PCT.
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LInks not working? Does this work?
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That bloodwork is from this cycle:
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Have not read the whole thing, but it was dosed like this: 50/50/50/50/75/75
Total test 1 week before PCT 44 , total test 1 week after PCT with nolva/clomid combo 1026

Of course everyone responds differently and you will recover with OTC, point is you will recover faster with a SERM. Get some bloodwork done a week before your cycle ends and see how hard you are shut down and decide from that.

Edit: Also it is highly unlikely that a research chem site is selling bunk stuff.
 
statik said:
You can't see the link you posted for bloodwork. Also, there has been plenty of bloodwork shown for OTC PCT for Hdrol. Not saying that Hdrol can't/won't shut you down, but it should be very mild, if at all.

Not to mention I'm only dosing at 75. If I were to dose at 100-125 I would def use a SERM, because such a high dose is asking for sides and shutdown.

Not to mention, at least with CA and PCS and the rest of the OTC PCT, I know what I'm getting. A lot of these research sites sell bunk **** as SERMs and it's not exactly legal, so you are taking just as much chance putting that into your body, as you are by just using an OTC PCT.
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I have bloodwork from the day after my pct using only PCS and LX I will post it if you want to see it. I think spacing it out over 4 hours is to much. IMO 1 hour spacing between supports and h-drol is fine.
 
rckvl7 said:
LInks not working? Does this work?
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That bloodwork is from this cycle:
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Have not read the whole thing, but it was dosed like this: 50/50/50/50/75/75
Total test 1 week before PCT 44 , total test 1 week after PCT with nolva/clomid combo 1026

Of course everyone responds differently and you will recover with OTC, point is you will recover faster with a SERM. Get some bloodwork done a week before your cycle ends and see how hard you are shut down and decide from that.
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Must have really good insurance or money to burn. My ins would only pay for 1.
 
rckvl7 said:
LInks not working? Does this work?
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That bloodwork is from this cycle:
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Have not read the whole thing, but it was dosed like this: 50/50/50/50/75/75
Total test 1 week before PCT 44 , total test 1 week after PCT with nolva/clomid combo 1026

Of course everyone responds differently and you will recover with OTC, point is you will recover faster with a SERM. Get some bloodwork done a week before your cycle ends and see how hard you are shut down and decide from that.

Edit: Also it is highly unlikely that a research chem site is selling bunk stuff.
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You are right and I will prolly be getting bloodwork done just so I know. I wish I could get before and after bloodwork done.

Also, there are a few sites that have sold bunk and over/under dosed SERMs. Some of these people in the supp/roid/hormone industry are pretty shady. I look at PH/PS and SERMs the same way I look at my supp providers. Be careful what you order and put in your body.
 
rckvl7 said:
Yeah, you can get it done through private labs 75-150 dollars though. I would be interested in seeing your bloodwork though. As I said, everyone is different.
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I've seen Pems in a different post.

As for me, I will be posting my bloodwork when I get it. I will prolly do a video log as well, since I'm lazy when it comes to typing.
 
statik said:
Since it contains Tren and Havoc do you have to space out exact hours?

Each capsule contains:

Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione ... 35 mg (known as Tren)

2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallocholanol ... 10 mg (known as Havoc)
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i'd space as far apart as possible, while knowing that dosing too close to bed will cause massive night sweats (for me - you may not have this issue). since i go to bed at midnight, i dose 1 cap (never more) at
8AM
2PM
8PM
 
suncloud said:
i'd space as far apart as possible, while knowing that dosing too close to bed will cause massive night sweats (for me - you may not have this issue). since i go to bed at midnight, i dose 1 cap (never more) at
8AM
2PM
8PM
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What causes the night sweats? The Tren or Havoc?
 
the tren. havoc has never given me any issues. quite a few of the loggers for tren on this forum had night sweats too.
 
rckvl7 said:
Yeah, you can get it done through private labs 75-150 dollars though. I would be interested in seeing your bloodwork though. As I said, everyone is different.
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Ran this at age 46 75mg a day for 5 weeks.
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statik said:
Ok here's what I got. I just ordered my CA and PCS, along with Lean Extreme and Inhibit-E. Should I start my Lean Extreme the first day of PCT and my Inhibit-E on Week 3 of PCT?

Staples:
Protein & Recomp Diet
Multivitamin
Omega-3
BCAAs

Week 1
pre-load Cycle Support

Week 2
Cycle Support 2.0
50mg Halo-X

Week 3
Cycle Support 2.0
75mg Halo-X

Week 4
Cycle Support 2.0
75mg Halo-X

Week 5
Cycle Support 2.0
75mg Halo-X

Week 6
Cycle Support 2.0
75mg Halo-X

Week 7
Cycle Support 2.0
75mg Halo-X

Week 8
PCS
Lean Extreme?

Week 9
PCS
Lean Extreme?

Week 10
PCS
Lean Extreme?
Inhibit-E?

Week 11
PCS
Lean Extreme? til runs out
Inhibit-E? til runs out
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Ok all my products finally arrived minus my SERM. Should I start my Inhibit-E on the first day of PCT? I was thinking about starting then and running 3/3/2/1. Or should I start it on week 10 with the Lean Xtreme?
 
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statik said:
Ok all my products finally arrived minus my SERM. Should I start my Inhibit-E on the first day of PCT? I was thinking about starting then and running 3/3/2/1. Or should I start it on week 10 with the Lean Xtreme?
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I would wait at least till you are done with the SERM or are on the last week of it.
 
pembroke3355 said:
I would wait at least till you are done with the SERM or are on the last week of it.
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Well I'm keeping a SERM onhand... I do not plan on using it unless I have to. I was thinking the PCS with IE and LX should be good. Just wasn't sure about the dosage or the best way to lay it out.
 
statik said:
Well I'm keeping a SERM onhand... I do not plan on using it unless I have to. I was thinking the PCS with IE and LX should be good. Just wasn't sure about the dosage or the best way to lay it out.
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Ok if it were me I would do this

PCS weeks1-4 2 caps a.m. and 2 caps p.m.

LX weeks3-6 one cap 3 times a day

IE Weeks 3-6 as directed(I do not know a lot about it)
 
pembroke3355 said:
Ok if it were me I would do this

PCS weeks1-4 2 caps a.m. and 2 caps p.m.

LX weeks3-6 one cap 3 times a day

IE Weeks 3-6 as directed(I do not know a lot about it)
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Hey guys. Im gathering info for my first cycle of h drol as well. Is it ok to use Novedex XT instead of the inhibit-e like pem suggested? Thanks....
 
bbraves7 said:
Hey guys. Im gathering info for my first cycle of h drol as well. Is it ok to use Novedex XT instead of the inhibit-e like pem suggested? Thanks....
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Yeah you can... NXT and IE are about the same... suppress estrogen and raise test.
 
Any help wound be great!

Hey I was reading yout threads on a h drol pct and I had a few questions if you dont mind. I am new with this stuff and I wanna make sure I am doing this right. I am taking h-drol at 50/50/50/50 with CEL cycle assist. Is this all I would need for a good pct and how and when should I dose them?

CEL pct assist
DSN lean xtreme
DSN activate xtreme
SNS inhibit e

Thank you very much for the help!
 
Also I have started ny cycle today so I am gunna update weekly all the way through the pct for anyone who is curiouse. Right now I am a 23 year old, intermediat weight lifter who is just trying to gain around ten lbs of lean muscle and get over a few plateus. I currently weigh between 170 and 172. I currently use no supplements other then protien and a healthy diet.
 
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