Need a crazy preworkout

Been taking Coenzyme Q10,beta alanine,cit mal, creapure,CLA,bulk arginine and a monster on days that i really need it. I get in a really good workout.
 
Nothing irritates me more than the days I forget my iPod at home. I will get to the gym and get ready to lift and Miley Cyrus comes on. Soul crushing.

I cant agree more i honestly credit 90% of my motivation and mood while lifting to music need that right tempo or little adrenaline rush to start of the lift i get the jams going and thats a good enough pre workout on its own. Without music i would of given up lifting a while ago lol.

I still vote for NO Shotgun, i have tried jack3d (made me crash, Tasted terrible) White Flood ( No effects) Animal Pump (so-so) No Xplode (Overpriced, overated) And the best so far is NO Shotgun the pumps are AMAZING, Nice energy and focus seriously its solid not enough people talk about it here cause theres no VPX reps or anything.
 
I cant agree more i honestly credit 90% of my motivation and mood while lifting to music need that right tempo or little adrenaline rush to start of the lift i get the jams going and thats a good enough pre workout on its own. Without music i would of given up lifting a while ago lol.

I still vote for NO Shotgun, i have tried jack3d (made me crash, Tasted terrible) White Flood ( No effects) Animal Pump (so-so) No Xplode (Overpriced, overated) And the best so far is NO Shotgun the pumps are AMAZING, Nice energy and focus seriously its solid not enough people talk about it here cause theres no VPX reps or anything.

believe me, there are plenty of shotgun fans.
 
believe me, there are plenty of shotgun fans.

May be true but why dont people express it. its nothing against any of the products here but especially with pre workout products people push what people want to hear. I mean dont get me wrong jack3d is a great product and thats the general consensus that its the best pre workout on this board, i know personally i pushed it a while back because the energy and pump is great but neglected to mention i couldnt stand the taste or crash. I believe theres a lot of shotgun lovers but i see zero to non post about it.
 
for energy grab Jacked, but for pump get your hand on a GPLC product, maybe Vasocor, Premax or pure GPLC

GPLC is awesome. Muscle DNA is awesome too which has GPLC in it at 4-6grams I believe. I will ask the trainer at the gym.
 
I just got a email from Adam and this is what he said so far about it. I quote I tried Muscle DNA again for the second time on Saturday and it worked awsome. I did 15 sets of squats, High rep of 365 and speed sqauts of 225 and 275. THe pump from the GPLC is bar non. I have tried many arginine type produts and this by far is better than any thing I have used. Give me a call.
 
4:15 DTP- 12 oz h20
4:30 Pre workout meal with Prime- 12 oz h20
5:00 5 grams GPLC with 1 scoop PW in 16 oz h20
5:45 1.5 scoops JP8 in 12 oz h20
6:00 Kill it in gym, sippin on 1 scoop PW in 32 oz h20

Post workout PF Big Blast and Oat Muscle in 24 oz h20


FTW!
 
4:15 DTP- 12 oz h20
4:30 Pre workout meal with Prime- 12 oz h20
5:00 5 grams GPLC with 1 scoop PW in 16 oz h20
5:45 1.5 scoops JP8 in 12 oz h20
6:00 Kill it in gym, sippin on 1 scoop PW in 32 oz h20

Post workout PF Big Blast and Oat Muscle in 24 oz h20


FTW!

nice stack.
 
4:15 DTP- 12 oz h20
4:30 Pre workout meal with Prime- 12 oz h20
5:00 5 grams GPLC with 1 scoop PW in 16 oz h20
5:45 1.5 scoops JP8 in 12 oz h20
6:00 Kill it in gym, sippin on 1 scoop PW in 32 oz h20

Post workout PF Big Blast and Oat Muscle in 24 oz h20


FTW!

Where are you finding the bulk GPLC?
 
I have combined jacked with hemodraulix and it was awesome. I would recommend that. Right now though, i am taking pslin 2 hours before i work out and jacked 15 before work out. The energy is great, pumps are insane, and you never really feel tired. I only use 1-2 scoops jacked too. 3 might kill me.
 
I have combined jacked with hemodraulix and it was awesome. I would recommend that. Right now though, i am taking pslin 2 hours before i work out and jacked 15 before work out. The energy is great, pumps are insane, and you never really feel tired. I only use 1-2 scoops jacked too. 3 might kill me.

That is a plan right there... I look forward to doing the Hemo/Jack3d stack when I do my spring recomp for 6-9 weeks. Did you notice any leaning out effects from the Hemo?
 
Where are you finding the bulk GPLC?

Its made by Superior Nutraceuticals. I found a place local that had it on the cheap and bought all 8 tubs.

One place online wants $69+s/h a 250grams tub, or buy 3 get 1 free for 139 plus shipping.

Search the manufacturer name and gplc and you will find it. cant post it here.

We need to ask Nutraplanet to start carrying GPLC.
 
6 caps rpm and 3 caps cre02. Trust me.

thank you sir, and I agree....quite a combo. Now just add some NitroCeps ;)

3 rpm and 3 vo2 ultra

ahhhh another option...quite nice. You should also check out some NitroCeps.

dark rage! no question

clearly there's question....which is why there is this thread. I can't stand when people say that. No question "blah blah blah" is the best. Different things work for different people. Some are set for all kinds of people...but you can't say that a pre w/o is best for all. Some ingredients just don't suit ALL users.
 
dark rage! no question

Oh really... I just love the idea of my pwo being full of 30 grams of "glucose polymers" and a bunch of otherwise useless ingredients. No if you said Jack3d, no question... well I would agree with you.
 
wow 6 caps, i thought 4 caps were off tap! might try 5 :D
jp8 if u can handle the taste!
white flood is good too
these three products all seem to give me long lasting energy without bad crash outs

yup, white flood is an excellent choice and we have free samples if you check the link in my signature below
 
White flood all day. Best compound and best bang for your buck. Doesn't taste like your eating pine-sol either like these other pre-workout supplements. Five out of five stars IMO :bigok:
 
I'm the guy adding water to his White Flood jug and swishing it around to get the last little bit. :D
then you are smarter than you look :D
White flood all day. Best compound and best bang for your buck. Doesn't taste like your eating pine-sol either like these other pre-workout supplements. Five out of five stars IMO :bigok:

glad to hear it, thanks for the feedback :)
 
White flood all day. Best compound and best bang for your buck. Doesn't taste like your eating pine-sol either like these other pre-workout supplements. Five out of five stars IMO :bigok:

i like taste of white flood too, but never been tempted to 'eat' pine-sol for comparison. guess i will have to take your word on it, lol. :veryhappy:
 
what would be some good things to take in addition to the hemodraulix? Im not used to making my own stacks i usually just take one proudct like jack3d or NO shotgun.

Thanks
 
what would be some good things to take in addition to the hemodraulix? Im not used to making my own stacks i usually just take one proudct like jack3d or NO shotgun.

Thanks

hemodraulix stacks with everything just adjust dose to suit your needs.
 
So for xmas i'm trying to get a new pre-workout supplement. I've tried Hemo Rage Black, Superpump 250, and White Flood. Of all of these, Superpump was my favorite, but I feel like theres got to be something that blows these away out there. Ive searched a few times but can't find exactly what i'm looking for.

I want something that gets me psycho to hit the gym, get me pumped up like no other, and has sustainable energy to lift VERY hard for at least an hour.


Why is it we find it necessary to waist our hard earned dollars on pre-work out ****?? What ever happened to good ol fashion carbs and BCAA's for your peri- nutrition? If your testosterone level is too low to keep you angry in the gym for an hour... well get online and fix that problem! Furthermore, if your peri-workout nutrition is off, you are basicly waisting your time working out... We live in an instant society, but true body BUILDING is not instant.
(no offense to all those who use legal narcotics)
 
Why is it we find it necessary to waist our hard earned dollars on pre-work out ****?? What ever happened to good ol fashion carbs and BCAA's for your peri- nutrition? If your testosterone level is too low to keep you angry in the gym for an hour... well get online and fix that problem! Furthermore, if your peri-workout nutrition is off, you are basicly waisting your time working out... We live in an instant society, but true body BUILDING is not instant.
(no offense to all those who use legal narcotics)

i have a job that thinks i should put if first in my life, i also have a family who thinks i should put them first in my life. throw in life's little unexpected disasters and you have a life where you don't always get enough sleep/rest, nutrition suffers and stress is high. excuse me if i need a little boost to get motivated.
 
i have a job that thinks i should put if first in my life, i also have a family who thinks i should put them first in my life. throw in life's little unexpected disasters and you have a life where you don't always get enough sleep/rest, nutrition suffers and stress is high. excuse me if i need a little boost to get motivated.

We all need a little boost from time to time :D:shocked:
 
My life is more like a bologna sandwich, its just a bunch of odds and ends sh** packed together, but I chew my way through it with a smile.

hahaha, same bologna different bread, lol.
 
Why is it we find it necessary to waist our hard earned dollars on pre-work out ****?? What ever happened to good ol fashion carbs and BCAA's for your peri- nutrition? If your testosterone level is too low to keep you angry in the gym for an hour... well get online and fix that problem! Furthermore, if your peri-workout nutrition is off, you are basicly waisting your time working out... We live in an instant society, but true body BUILDING is not instant.
(no offense to all those who use legal narcotics)

why is it that some of us feel the need to waste our time learning proper grammar while others spend all their time at the gym? odd. :)

people use certain pre w/o products to get a lot of ingredients that they want in their bodies, but don't want to buy all in bulk and combine themselves. If that isn't you....no need for you to buy them. I don't think it's fair to criticize others for their choices on the matter though.
 
I have better workouts using prework supps. I have a physical job that requires me to workout through the day. I work on trucks and cars.

Constantly lifting, pushing, pulling, standing, etc.

I time meals properly. I am eating at 4:30 so I can workout at 6pm. I take enough water in.

This has worked for years. With success.

I need and want my crack juice! lol

Currently using a JP8 hybrid containing some MP Assault, NOZ IV and 4.5gs of GPLC preworkout.

Aminos Intra.

lovin it.
 
I have better workouts using prework supps. I have a physical job that requires me to workout through the day. I work on trucks and cars.

Constantly lifting, pushing, pulling, standing, etc.

I time meals properly. I am eating at 4:30 so I can workout at 6pm. I take enough water in.

This has worked for years. With success.

I need and want my crack juice! lol

Currently using a JP8 hybrid containing some MP Assault, NOZ IV and 4.5gs of GPLC preworkout.

Aminos Intra.

lovin it.

amen bother, i work in a factory, have kids and grandkids- the crackjuice is just a fact of life. gotta pay the bills!!!
 
Citrulline Malate 5-6g
Beta Alanine 2-4g

Alone they are so-so but together is perfect.

Also a stim containing Geranamine.

Start on a dextrose based whey shake about halfway into the workout.


Alternatively i like to start a Purple Wraath drink pre workout and finish it half way through. Ocassionally add Waxy Maize and few extra grams of Leucine to this.
Geranamine based stims are usual for me but kept for pre workout only





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many of these are good. I am doing Ragnorak and love the taste. when i was dieting last year used it as well and it was like a treat when dieting hard.
 
Citrulline Malate 5-6g
Beta Alanine 2-4g

Alone they are so-so but together is perfect.

Also a stim containing Geranamine.

Start on a dextrose based whey shake about halfway into the workout.


Alternatively i like to start a Purple Wraath drink pre workout and finish it half way through. Ocassionally add Waxy Maize and few extra grams of Leucine to this.
Geranamine based stims are usual for me but kept for pre workout only





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it seems geranamine is great for vast majority but i get absolutely nothing from it. just plain don't respond to any supp with it in it or even the bulk at way over rec dose. jacked was a big waste of time and money.
 
jackEd is so overrated.. but ppl swear by USP labs on these boards.. so I'm not gonna bash it- I just didn't get the focus or energy or pump I expected when reading the reviews.. Obv it works for some and others it doesnt.. (Which is weird b/c I'mNOT a stim junkie)
NO Shotgun V3 has worked at giving me pumps and focus and endurance EVERY time I have taken it.. imho one of the top 5 supplements on the market- including PH's!!
Try the SHOTGUN, wait til you get the beta alanine tingle.. hit the weights- set PRs.. Thats how it is for me at least.. for 30$ for 28 servings it's also a great price/deal.
 
jackEd is so overrated.. but ppl swear by USP labs on these boards.. so I'm not gonna bash it- I just didn't get the focus or energy or pump I expected when reading the reviews.. Obv it works for some and others it doesnt.. (Which is weird b/c I'mNOT a stim junkie)
NO Shotgun V3 has worked at giving me pumps and focus and endurance EVERY time I have taken it.. imho one of the top 5 supplements on the market- including PH's!!
Try the SHOTGUN, wait til you get the beta alanine tingle.. hit the weights- set PRs.. Thats how it is for me at least.. for 30$ for 28 servings it's also a great price/deal.

i agree shotgun is up there for me too. the new rag ultra looks very good though, my buddy geek poop tells me it is very good. i am using new methyl mass by est and it is pretty good, nice strength gains for just 8 days in. imo, you can't go wrong with any 3 of those choices.
 
get on ASSAULT by MusclePharm.

the focus, strength, and endurance boosts are great. it's not your average run-of-the-mill preWO. i'm on my 2nd tub...

on top of that, the raspberry lemonade flavor is the best tasting preWO i've ever had.
 
i have a job that thinks i should put if first in my life, i also have a family who thinks i should put them first in my life. throw in life's little unexpected disasters and you have a life where you don't always get enough sleep/rest, nutrition suffers and stress is high. excuse me if i need a little boost to get motivated.

exactly. those knocking it need to try free samples (check sig below ;) )
 
One place online wants $69+s/h a 250grams tub, or buy 3 get 1 free for 139 plus shipping.

Search the manufacturer name and gplc and you will find it. cant post it here.

We need to ask Nutraplanet to start carrying GPLC.

that is an austrailian site. $139 not for the 3+1free its the price you pay for the 2 250g you buy not mentioning the first 250g which would be $ 209.85.
 
for energy grab Jacked, but for pump get your hand on a GPLC product, maybe Vasocor, Premax or pure GPLC

couldnt have said it better myself

jack3d is insane for energy, in fact, too much so for my liking

gplc is the **** for pumps, plasmatic is the only gplc supp ive used, but i loved it.
 
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