Need a crazy preworkout

SwolenONE said:
couldnt have said it better myself

jack3d is insane for energy, in fact, too much so for my liking

gplc is the **** for pumps, plasmatic is the only gplc supp ive used, but i loved it.
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i don't react to jacked, or 1,3,dime period. but i don't understand why everyone doesn't just buy 1,3,dime in bulk, 2 gms for $5 would last 3 months easy. is nutra going to carry the plamatic and methyl mass?
 
thebigt said:
i don't react to jacked, or 1,3,dime period. but i don't understand why everyone doesn't just buy 1,3,dime in bulk, 2 gms for $5 would last 3 months easy. is nutra going to carry the plamatic and methyl mass?
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Exactly what I did too, 1gram for a few bucks with delivery, just take it with some Caffeine like Anhydrous and you're all set. Personally i found the vasoconstricting properties a bit much for my liking so I wont be using it again. Definately gave a push in my workouts though.
 
WilteredFire said:
Exactly what I did too, 1gram for a few bucks with delivery, just take it with some Caffeine like Anhydrous and you're all set. Personally i found the vasoconstricting properties a bit much for my liking so I wont be using it again. Definately gave a push in my workouts though.
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the bulk 1,3 dime is definitely cheap enough at $2.50 a gm.
 
WilteredFire said:
Exactly what I did too, 1gram for a few bucks with delivery, just take it with some Caffeine like Anhydrous and you're all set. Personally i found the vasoconstricting properties a bit much for my liking so I wont be using it again. Definately gave a push in my workouts though.
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I didn't like the vasoconstricting properties either but i feel it was caffeine that was the culprit for that. Once i backed off the caffeine a bit i noticed the slight anxiety i used to get dissappeared as well. One strong coffee is maximum.

I love 1,3 dime and wasn't prepared to give it up without more experimenting so i tried some N.O. before settling on Citrulline Malate and Beta Alanine. Adding these two supps seemed to counteract any vasoconstricting issues i got from the stims.

1,3 dime should be used with caution as it is quite strong but it's definitely better than caffeine IMO. There is some people who don't respond to it and i feel for them cause i love it.
 
Jag said:
I didn't like the vasoconstricting properties either but i feel it was caffeine that was the culprit for that. Once i backed off the caffeine a bit i noticed the slight anxiety i used to get dissappeared as well. One strong coffee is maximum.

I love 1,3 dime and wasn't prepared to give it up without more experimenting so i tried some N.O. before settling on Citrulline Malate and Beta Alanine. Adding these two supps seemed to counteract any vasoconstricting issues i got from the stims.

1,3 dime should be used with caution as it is quite strong but it's definitely better than caffeine IMO. There is some people who don't respond to it and i feel for them cause i love it.
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what do you think is the cause for not responding to the 1,3,dime? i can't figure out the reason why i don't get anything from something everyone else seems to love????
 
I don't like it either, bigt. I get effects, alright, nasty ones. It kills my cardio, and makes me sleepy.
 
poison said:
I don't like it either, bigt. I get effects, alright, nasty ones. It kills my cardio, and makes me sleepy.
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why do you think that is. i have been wondering this every since i got shiitty because everyone else said how good amp was and i didn't feel it. and that was 4 years ago. hahaha, i remember throwing a fit and telling everyone on a different forum they were full of it for recommending amp, lol.
 
thebigt said:
why do you think that is. i have been wondering this every since i got shiitty because everyone else said how good amp was and i didn't feel it. and that was 4 years ago. hahaha, i remember throwing a fit and telling everyone on a different forum they were full of it for recommending amp, lol.
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AMP was better the ephedrine for me in every way. That was the best stim i ever used.

Don't know why some people don't respond, i'm not the scientific type but i understand the frustration. I was the same with PEA which did nothing at all at any dose but everyone else seemed to be getting amazing results. I think i got a bit sick from all the gelatin (caps) that my body was trying to process :D
 
Jag said:
AMP was better the ephedrine for me in every way. That was the best stim i ever used.

Don't know why some people don't respond, i'm not the scientific type but i understand the frustration. I was the same with PEA which did nothing at all at any dose but everyone else seemed to be getting amazing results. I think i got a bit sick from all the gelatin (caps) that my body was trying to process :D
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this really sucks for me, all the supp company's seem to be using 1,3,dime as the base for their stims right now. best stim i know of now is vyper by pro supps.-guess what-it is pea based, lol.
 
thebigt said:
why do you think that is. i have been wondering this every since i got shiitty because everyone else said how good amp was and i didn't feel it. and that was 4 years ago. hahaha, i remember throwing a fit and telling everyone on a different forum they were full of it for recommending amp, lol.
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Everyone is different. Caffeine is a good appetite suppressant, yet it makes me ravenous. Go figure.

Putting geranamine in a pre-workout arginine-based pump product is just dumb.

Oh, I love the limp ****, too. :rolleyes:
 
poison said:
Everyone is different. Caffeine is a good appetite suppressant, yet it makes me ravenous. Go figure.

Putting geranamine in a pre-workout arginine-based pump product is just dumb.

Oh, I love the limp ****, too. :rolleyes:
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poison-that is because your coffee is his high octane, lol. i have heard good things about your coffee! dsade says it's best he's had.
 
thebigt said:
this really sucks for me, all the supp company's seem to be using 1,3,dime as the base for their stims right now. best stim i know of now is vyper by pro supps.-guess what-it is pea based, lol.
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From time to time i alternate with Chocamine, which has natural occurring PEA and combine it with Rhodiola Rosea.

Not as intense but i feel good all day energy, concentration and fantastic moods similiar to what some PEA users mention but not the same euphoria they describe.
 
Jag said:
From time to time i alternate with Chocamine, which has natural occurring PEA and combine it with Rhodiola Rosea.

Not as intense but i feel good all day energy, concentration and fantastic moods similiar to what some PEA users mention but not the same euphoria they describe.
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the best stim i tried with chocamine was the alri venom, but who the hell knows what else they put in it, lol.
 
thebigt said:
poison-that is because your coffee is his high octane, lol. i have heard good things about your coffee! dsade says it's best he's had.
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his coffee IS the best. period.

my favorite naturally he doesn't have anymore (:shocked:), but all the others have treated me well!
 
CTDeuce said:
his coffee IS the best. period.

my favorite naturally he doesn't have anymore (:shocked:), but all the others have treated me well!
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i feel like i am missing out-my wife and i both have 2 cups upon waking. i am in negotions now to score me some of poisons majic brew, lol.
 
CTDeuce said:
his coffee IS the best. period.

my favorite naturally he doesn't have anymore (:shocked:), but all the others have treated me well!
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I don't think you've tried my ethiopia yet, have you? Let me know, brother!
 
Bnatural said:
i'm quite intrigued to hear what is in this exactly, lol
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Pure love, bro, I rub every box on my crotch before sending out.


:huh: no. But I do touch every bean. Wait, that sounds wrong, too. Dammit, I buy the best coffees in the world and roast em to order. Whew!
 
poison said:
I don't think you've tried my ethiopia yet, have you? Let me know, brother!
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I have..and it was good..but it just wasn't that Nicaragua man. I had a serious love for that coffee. The 4-6 bags I got from you were not nearly enough, haha.



PS - for anyone contemplating this order...when I get my package in the mail (shipped from CA, i'm in PA), the bags are still warm.
 
E-911 and clearshot are on my to try list
 
I am a 23 year old football player who wants to gain muscle, and loose fat as well as hopefully up my speed and strength. I have used H-Drol by itself before and got decent results I am curious about using these products. I really am posting this because I need help deciding which ones to use as well as how to properely cycle them, and eat accordingly. If any body can post a few good cycles and combinations of H-drol, M-drol, and P-plex use it would really help me out.
Thanks A Lot

94 Like never before
 
I have been using Dark Rage for the past year, but I have never been fully satisfied. I have been hunting for something new.
 
coldseed said:
I have been using Dark Rage for the past year, but I have never been fully satisfied. I have been hunting for something new.
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look back through this thread, and then through a lot of others on here, and then tell me if there is any reason whatsoever that you shouldnt try RagNOrok Ultra ;)
 
I tried GPLC and loved it, I wish I could find it in BULKKKK for a reasonable price

Otherwise I've used RPM, and Assault and liked both products.
 
CTDeuce said:
look back through this thread, and then through a lot of others on here, and then tell me if there is any reason whatsoever that you shouldnt try RagNOrok Ultra ;)
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Certainly! I was going through this thread and trying to see what everyone else is using. I'm working on making a supplement order soon so trust me; I'm reading what you guys are saying. :)
 
coldseed said:
Certainly! I was going through this thread and trying to see what everyone else is using. I'm working on making a supplement order soon so trust me; I'm reading what you guys are saying. :)
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I just used Ragnarok and recommend it. Very much waiting to see how Anadraulic-State GT is once it is out... supposed to be a great improvement on the first one in all aspects. If you have to pick up something now, Jack3d is my favorite for pure energy/focus and Ragnarok has an excellent all around profile worth running for a good while.
 
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