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You're not feeling anything? Try 30mg. You should feel that, lol. Remember I started at 30mg and day 4 I woke up with a pump and after that it was real obvious I was taking some good ****.

I don't feel the support supps or the dosing scheme will influence the effects too much, there's no hiding the effects of 20mg of SD.
 
gymaddict20 said:
How close are you taking the m-drol with your support supps? Also Id keep your m-drol dosing spaced out so your plasma levels are consistant. It will get better bro.
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not very close at all actually. like hours before I take my SD.

I'm taking the first dose 30-45min. before I go to the gym, and the second cap right after I get home from the gym. I'm hoping it kicks in hard and fast and soon bro:) but we'll see if we can't get something worked out it doesn't work.

UnrealMachine said:
You're not feeling anything? Try 30mg. You should feel that, lol. Remember I started at 30mg and day 4 I woke up with a pump and after that it was real obvious I was taking some good ****.

I don't feel the support supps or the dosing scheme will influence the effects too much, there's no hiding the effects of 20mg of SD.
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Na man nothing...:( No pumps, No sides. Hell at this point I would welcome a back or calf pump haha. I'll try 30mg today (should I take 20mg before and 10mg after?). If that doesn't work I've got 2 P-drol, 2 Methadrol, Super-jet, S-roid, another M-Drol and maybe some other SD to choose from haha. So I think I might choose one of those and switch if 30mg of this Mdrol doesn't work. How many days should I give it if I don't feel anything at 30mg? Two? Three? And yea I remember reading that ur post abt waking up with that pump goin on haha.

Did the CEL rep say that they would only test UNOPENED bottles if someone sent a bottle to them? I really don't want to be a **** but I'd just like to know if they would test it so I can make sure it isn't just my body not reacting to SD. (Which would completely suck and I might be the only person in the world to not react to it.)


Also, I really appreciate all the help guys. I figured this would be taking off by now. O well. I'm gonna make this cycle go the way I want it. I just have to figure out how to do that.
 
Well I just dosed 20mg and I'm off to the gym in a few minutes. Hopefully the stuff will kick in today. Chest/light bis today. I'm bringing some NOxplode with me incase I'm feeling nothing later.

I posted something in the CEL forum and another member said they had similar issues w/ a bottle from the same batch as I have. Says that he feels it might have been under dosed.

I'll report back in a little bit.
 
DAY 9

Nothing again.

Chest/Light Bis:

Incline Bench
Flat Bench
Close Grip Bench
Incline Flys
Decline Bench
Pec Deck
Curls
Hammers
No Pump:(

Opinions on this situation?
 
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Man that sucks n8te. Something definitely is amiss. I just got a load of that same batch number in the mail today. It doesn't seem like the dosage is the problem here. I'd switch clones for a few just to test the variable. It would give you peace of mind anyway. Stay up bro.
 
^^much appreciated. Yea I think I might open up some methadrol tomorrow. Or I might hold off another day.

It'll work out:)
 
slam 30mg for a few days before you hit up anything else. At 30mg you will know pretty quickly if its bunk or not.

How are your weigh ins? It's pretty much impossible not to be gaining weight right now, you'll be putting on water weight no matter what, SD always makes me even more thirsty when I get on it.
 
will weigh tomorrow morning big dude. I drink a ton of water on the reg. so I've not been abnormally thirsty. Lets say I do start to feel 30mgs, then wat? How long should I take it for, 30's like the top dose I thought. Unless you push it and take like 40 or 50 and are nuts cough* Unreal cough* j/k.
 
lol.... I could have eaten my whole bottle of Mdrol as a meal and it wouldn't have done sh1t

Anyway assuming 30mg starts to work just stick it out there. But if you need 30mg to feel as much as most people feel at 10 i can only conclude that you are a crappy responder or that the compound purity is in question.

If not, drop that crap asap and hop on another clone... start it up at 20mg right away... Start weighing yourself everyday.
 
Alright, dosing 20mg in EVOO right now. Will update after I get back.

Will does 10mg when I get back
 
DAY 10

Well guys.

Nothing.again.

Shoulders:

Military Press
Weird Front Raises (I saw them in the unique exercises thread)
Reverse Flys
Shoulder Press
Shrugs


No pump. ended up taking some NO 40 min. into workout. :( no good fellas
It was still a good workout none the less.

Unreal-Still weighing in at 194 on an empty stomach in the AM.
 
Double bum man! So what's the next move? Are you going to swap for another SD clone? I'm glad to see that you're staying positive though. That really is paramount to anything else.
 
n8te said:
DAY 10

Well guys.

Nothing.again.

Shoulders:

Military Press
Weird Front Raises (I saw them in the unique exercises thread)
Reverse Flys
Shoulder Press
Shrugs


No pump. ended up taking some NO 40 min. into workout. :( no good fellas
It was still a good workout none the less.

Unreal-Still weighing in at 194 on an empty stomach in the AM.
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Sorry to hear that bro... I'd move right into the Methadrol at 20mg. Forget this crap. SD is usually run for 3 weeks, you're halfway done and gained nothing, this stuff isn't any good.
 
I had huge strength gains starting in my 3rd week, which was also when I started at 30 mg. I ran 30 for weeks 3 and 4. I never had any shutdown, and I only gained five lbs, which I've kept. I really did solidify and have big lift gains, so I wonder if this a legit compound, just not SD. I know Delta ran this and said it was legit, I would like to know what his weight gain was, or if he just experienced increases in strength.

I forgot to add that I have used SD clones twice prior and responded extrememly well with way more weight gain, so I'm not a a low responder, if that even exists with SD.
 
sounds like were at the same size with the same goals...good luck my friend...I'm using tren in place of epi but eh pretty equal. good stuff so far I'm following
 
Nolanaf67 said:
Bums man..sorry to hear that. Hopefully the whole batch isn't bunk.
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I doubt it bro.

meathed said:
Double bum man! So what's the next move? Are you going to swap for another SD clone? I'm glad to see that you're staying positive though. That really is paramount to anything else.
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Either Methadrol or S-roid are what I've narrowed it down too. Yea, gotta stay positive no matter what :cheers:

UnrealMachine said:
Sorry to hear that bro... I'd move right into the Methadrol at 20mg. Forget this crap. SD is usually run for 3 weeks, you're halfway done and gained nothing, this stuff isn't any good.
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yup starting today after I wake up (just got back from work). you think I could extend it another week?:13:?

ward0351 said:
I had huge strength gains starting in my 3rd week, which was also when I started at 30 mg. I ran 30 for weeks 3 and 4. I never had any shutdown, and I only gained five lbs, which I've kept. I really did solidify and have big lift gains, so I wonder if this a legit compound, just not SD. I know Delta ran this and said it was legit, I would like to know what his weight gain was, or if he just experienced increases in strength.

I forgot to add that I have used SD clones twice prior and responded extrememly well with way more weight gain, so I'm not a a low responder, if that even exists with SD.
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Yea man others have ran the same batch with good results (gymaddict is running my exact cycle right now) so I'm not really sure what exactly is goin on with this batch

I doubt I'm a low responder. I would be the first I've ever heard of if thats the case.

indianballer said:
sounds like were at the same size with the same goals...good luck my friend...I'm using tren in place of epi but eh pretty equal. good stuff so far I'm following
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Preciate it bro. I've got my eye on your log as well. Good luck

Thanks for the support guys. In other good news my workout buddy informed me that after a week of P90x he is giving up and will return to the gym on Monday to work out w/ me. (He decided he was gonna try it for his gf) Luckily the big guy likes the weights too much.


HEY at least my last couple of days haven't been as bad as THIS guy's day yesterday(check this out)

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Thats 1001hp and 1.4 Million Down the porcelain throne :(
 
n8te said:
Thanks for the support guys. In other good news my workout buddy informed me that after a week of P90x he is giving up and will return to the gym on Monday to work out w/ me. (He decided he was gonna try it for his gf) Luckily the big guy likes the weights too much.
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Lolz. Tony Horton is sooooooo ripped dood! It's gotta be cause his muscles be all confused 'n sh1t. :biglaugh:
 
Alright I just took 2 caps of Methadrol. And I should have dosed 10 pre/ 10 post but I guess I was just used to running 30mg's and dosed 20 pre. O well.

Hopefully I'll notice a difference. I'll report back later guys. Today won't be heavy lifting at all.
 
n8te said:
Alright I just took 2 caps of Methadrol. And I should have dosed 10 pre/ 10 post but I guess I was just used to running 30mg's and dosed 20 pre. O well.

Hopefully I'll notice a difference. I'll report back later guys. Today won't be heavy lifting at all.
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Cool man, I'm interested to see the difference.
 
DAY 11

Hit pretty much everything today quick DC type day.

Good pump felt all through my workout. :)!

Soon enough my friends.....
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I'll be the next chuck.

I'll weigh when I get to my buddy's house, I trust his digital scale more than my mom's scale.
 
Ok... Looks like that is Day 1 for ya! Hope this actually gets things started now
 
n8te said:
So should I extend the SD for another week as long as their are no sides? Or just play it safe and keep it at 3?
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Just keep it to 3 weeks because here it is only the first portion of the bridge. If you do a 4th week you have to think about this cycle becoming a 7 week methyl bridge & the other possibility of keeping it 6 weeks by shortening the Epi.

But I think the cycle is planned pretty well and shouldn't need to be altered
 
sorry to hear this SD has not fully kidded in yet but that very strange b/c you're running the same batch i did just last month and I felt the effect on the second day, maybe I'm a better responder to SD, I ended up running my cycle for 4 weeks at 10/10/20/20 and once i tried 30mg but lethargy kicked in hardcore from that point on i just cruised at 20, hopefully the epi will kick start early for ya.
 
Should be a nice transition into the Epi. Epi is not as harsh so you may consider going up to 50mg the last week. I have never done a bridge with SD before, but on a 6 week PeraPlex/Epi bridge, I ran the Epi at 30/40/50/50 and had an incredible boost in strength. It somewhat diminished into the second week of PCT, but adding Formex, in week 3(PCT), into it brought it up to a consistent level that I was able to maintain. How'd your workout go? I'm curious to hear if the M-Drol had some kind of primer effect.
 
hi guys, just curious, but what would the reverse be like: 3 weeks EPI, 3 weeks SD and then 6 weeks PCT? Would this be okay for a gradual bulk up?
 
UnrealMachine said:
Just keep it to 3 weeks because here it is only the first portion of the bridge. If you do a 4th week you have to think about this cycle becoming a 7 week methyl bridge & the other possibility of keeping it 6 weeks by shortening the Epi.

But I think the cycle is planned pretty well and shouldn't need to be altered
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will do.

Delta Force said:
sorry to hear this SD has not fully kidded in yet but that very strange b/c you're running the same batch i did just last month and I felt the effect on the second day, maybe I'm a better responder to SD, I ended up running my cycle for 4 weeks at 10/10/20/20 and once i tried 30mg but lethargy kicked in hardcore from that point on i just cruised at 20, hopefully the epi will kick start early for ya.
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I've done epi before and loved it so I have no doubt I'll keep making gains. And I think that maybe there was just something wrong w/ this bottle

meathed said:
Should be a nice transition into the Epi. Epi is not as harsh so you may consider going up to 50mg the last week. I have never done a bridge with SD before, but on a 6 week PeraPlex/Epi bridge, I ran the Epi at 30/40/50/50 and had an incredible boost in strength. It somewhat diminished into the second week of PCT, but adding Formex, in week 3(PCT), into it brought it up to a consistent level that I was able to maintain. How'd your workout go? I'm curious to hear if the M-Drol had some kind of primer effect.
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yea I'll see how the epi goes I might bump it up but 30-40 was the sweet spot for me the first time.

D675 said:
hi guys, just curious, but what would the reverse be like: 3 weeks EPI, 3 weeks SD and then 6 weeks PCT? Would this be okay for a gradual bulk up?
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SD is a bulker and Epi usually cuts so this bridge that I'm running will probably work a little better if you were to run a bulk. but there are other compounds that would result in a gradual bulk too.
 
Question-should I spread out my doses of Epi throughout the day? Thats what I did before but during my third week I'm gonna be starting epi and that'll be a lot of pills during the day if I split them up evenly.
 
DAY 13

OK work out buddy wanted to do Chest today. Good workout set a new PR on incline so I'm stoked. Hell, I feel like going back to the gym again later haha.

Workout was as follows:
Incline Bench
Flys
Incline Flys
Chest Press
Tricep Press

Cardio

No sides yet :) Well except for the fact that I'm pretty thirsty and the more water I drink the more food I want. which is good as far as I'm concerned. Also, I've notice that I've dropped some fat which is great.

Workout buddy was back today and started his X-Tren cycle too so soon enough he will make me look EVEN smaller when I stand next to him. haha what an ass. AND on top of that he banged some chick that we've both had our eyes on for a while, too bad I had to be at work late on Friday or else I would have been at the bar w/ him. The rough part was that he's telling me about this incident w/ the girl while we're at the gym. Well, turns out her ex husband is hearing it the whole thing b/c he's next to us the whole time we're at the gym, when we realized that's who he was it was awkward to say the least...

Haha such is life.
 
DAY 15

Weighed in a few minutes ago....Drum roll please.....199lbs. :):):)

Seems like its working good so far.

Today Was BI/Tris Not very heavy.

Hammer Curls
Close Grip Bench
Pushdowns
EZ bar close grip
Incline Curls
Overhead Presses

Feeling good. No sides still:) feeling good and looking forward to starting that Epi soon. Also, I got a job lead yesterday so hopefully that will pan out, its not using my major but its better than my current job at the moment.
 
n8te said:
DAY 13

OK work out buddy wanted to do Chest today. Good workout set a new PR on incline so I'm stoked. Hell, I feel like going back to the gym again later haha.

Workout was as follows:
Incline Bench
Flys
Incline Flys
Chest Press
Tricep Press

Cardio

No sides yet :) Well except for the fact that I'm pretty thirsty and the more water I drink the more food I want. which is good as far as I'm concerned. Also, I've notice that I've dropped some fat which is great.

Workout buddy was back today and started his X-Tren cycle too so soon enough he will make me look EVEN smaller when I stand next to him. haha what an ass. AND on top of that he banged some chick that we've both had our eyes on for a while, too bad I had to be at work late on Friday or else I would have been at the bar w/ him. The rough part was that he's telling me about this incident w/ the girl while we're at the gym. Well, turns out her ex husband is hearing it the whole thing b/c he's next to us the whole time we're at the gym, when we realized that's who he was it was awkward to say the least...

Haha such is life.
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HAHAHA that is brutal man! Priceless though.
 
n8te said:
DAY 15

Weighed in a few minutes ago....Drum roll please.....199lbs. :):):)

Seems like its working good so far.

Today Was BI/Tris Not very heavy.

Hammer Curls
Close Grip Bench
Pushdowns
EZ bar close grip
Incline Curls
Overhead Presses

Feeling good. No sides still:) feeling good and looking forward to starting that Epi soon. Also, I got a job lead yesterday so hopefully that will pan out, its not using my major but its better than my current job at the moment.
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That is hilarious!!! He was prob afraid for his life. Two jacked montsers talking about banging his ex-wife and was too afraid to say something. Hahahahahahaha :rofl:
 
Glad to hear about the job lead brother! Awesome news on the weight gain as well. Do you still feel as if you have kept that previous lost body fat off? Curious, how many sets are you doing for each exercise/body part and are you incorporating the HIT yet?

Anyway, looks good broham! Keep SFW and GFH!:thumbsup:
 
Nolanaf67 said:
HAHAHA that is brutal man! Priceless though.
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Yea man, it was like some **** out of a movie.

gymaddict20 said:
That is hilarious!!! He was prob afraid for his life. Two jacked montsers talking about banging his ex-wife and was too afraid to say something. Hahahahahahaha :rofl:
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Haha yea shes stacked man, so hot. I swear she always does bent over rows infront of us just to **** w/ us during out workout. I'm still gonna go for her regardless. I do feel bad for the guy having to hear the story though.

meathed said:
Glad to hear about the job lead brother! Awesome news on the weight gain as well. Do you still feel as if you have kept that previous lost body fat off? Curious, how many sets are you doing for each exercise/body part and are you incorporating the HIT yet?

Anyway, looks good broham! Keep SFW and GFH!:thumbsup:
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yea I don't feel that I've gained body fat at all. My diet is low carb b/c I wanted to keep the bloat off. High fat and high protein most of the days.

I'm doing 4 to 5 exercises per bodypart except for DC days when I do more body parts per workout. Yea Since day 5 (I believe) I've been on HIT. I'm doing two warm up sets and a working set of 6 to 8 reps for my working set. I love it honestly. You just have to give 120% every rep. Legs I usually do a little higher reps per set b/c I get more growth that way.

To be completely honest my diet is based around UnrealMachine's I've got another buddy that keeps his diet mainly keto and he has had great results, obviously Unreal has too haha. And my routine I got the idea from watching Blood and Guts and a week in the dungeon.

If you have time check out A Week In The Dungeon it's amazing I watch it a lot. Mark Dugdale seem's like an awesome guy and his attitude amazes me. Dorian is a monster even today and his intensity is so raw and unchained it's like my fuel for the gym when I watch that vid.haha :cheers:

Also, earlier today I get a txt from my workout buddy that says "taurine please!" I guess hes getting calf pumps already from that Xtren haha. I'm looking forward to tomorrow - Back Day:) I'm gonna kill it. Hopefully setting a record for deads and rows. I do want to break 200 tomorrow but I want this to be lean weight so we'll see. Its all about little victories...


Gym in the AM.
 
DAY 16

Sorry for the late update AM was not working for me last night so I couldn't make an update.

Worked Back

Good pump, didn't set any PR's this time. Next time though I'll be into the EPi and I love that stuff so I'll def. set some PR's then.
 
did you not notice anything anabolic until you switched SD clones? If that is the case, make the first day of methadrol day 1 (wasn't it like day 11?) and don't do the Epi until you hit week 3 on that timeframe. If you keep the original timeframe you'll get no time on SD
 
UnrealMachine said:
did you not notice anything anabolic until you switched SD clones? If that is the case, make the first day of methadrol day 1 (wasn't it like day 11?) and don't do the Epi until you hit week 3 on that timeframe. If you keep the original timeframe you'll get no time on SD
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Awesome. I just didn't know if I was taking some other random methyl that was hard on my liver w/ no results thats why I was just gonna continue the cycle as planned. But ok I'll count today as Day 7. Awesome. :)

:bigok: Muscles feel full today.

I'll be hitting the gym later tonight after work. I'm working during the day this week, which sucks b/c next week will be back to 3rd shift I'm sure But I'm enjoying it while I can.
 
n8te said:
Awesome. I just didn't know if I was taking some other random methyl that was hard on my liver w/ no results thats why I was just gonna continue the cycle as planned. But ok I'll count today as Day 7. Awesome. :)

:bigok: Muscles feel full today.

I'll be hitting the gym later tonight after work. I'm working during the day this week, which sucks b/c next week will be back to 3rd shift I'm sure But I'm enjoying it while I can.
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Man I hate split week shifts. I have the same crap going on at the hotel I work at and school on top of that.

Glad to hear that things are progressing finally.
 
I took today off. feeling good overall and no back pumps. Tomorrow is Legs:)

Good news. Next week I am working during the day so no 3rd shift for next week. Man I've got to get another job w/ my degree.
 
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