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CEL X-Tren PCT

trib won't do much at all for recovery, never bank on that one. The shutdown can be nasty with tren so don't skimp on your PCT.
 
Libertarian said:
If you do a "cycle" that doesn't require a real SERM over OTC crap, then it wasn't a real cycle.
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SERM needed for this cycle but there are a few cycles that OTC works fine for. OTC also works well along side of a SERM.
 
clomid 75/50/50/25
ai pcs 2nd week
some type or cortisol control
suppress c reduce xt or if looking for cheaper alternative super cortisol control from NOW or acetyl l-carnitine and vitamin c
and of course liver support as in p-liver
 
Johnnayyyy said:
clomid 75/50/50/25
ai pcs 2nd week
some type or cortisol control
suppress c reduce xt or if looking for cheaper alternative super cortisol control from NOW or acetyl l-carnitine and vitamin c
and of course liver support as in p-liver
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Very good looking setupbro.:)
 
You are definitely going to want to run a SERM after X-Tren. Like De Santo suggested... go with Clomid as X-Tren's active ingredient is a progestin. I've learned clomid is best for progestin cycles.
 
Libertarian said:
Right. You mean OTC stuff like what you sell? :rolleyes:
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LMAO show me where it those words that you quoted me on the name of any of our products? Person asked a question simply was answering. Oh and in case you did not notice the OP said he already has PCS on hand.
 
pembroke3355 said:
LMAO show me where it those words that you quoted me on the name of any of our products? Person asked a question simply was answering. Oh and in case you did not notice the OP said he already has PCS on hand.
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So, you wouldn't recommend your OTC PCT products linked to in your signature to a person who is running a PH/DS cycle?

Also, please clarify what steroid cycles in particular would an OTC PCT product "work fine" for?

EDIT: Do you always neg anyone who asks questions about your products?
 
Libertarian said:
So, you wouldn't recommend your OTC PCT products linked to in your signature to a person who is running a PH/DS cycle?

Also, please clarify what steroid cycles in particular would an OTC PCT product "work fine" for?

EDIT: Do you always neg anyone who asks questions about your products?
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No I neg people when they come into a thread that someones asks a question then mentions he has PCS on hand and a sarcastic comment is made. People are entitled to their opinions on products so if someone does not like a AI product I do nothing. I would recommend our pct product to run along a SERM but I also do not pimp our products as I know other OTC pct products from other companies also work.

I would say a OTC only would work with something like a h-drol only cycle and some of the mild non methyls such as 3-ad. I always tell people to have a SERM on hand.
 
pembroke3355 said:
No I neg people when they come into a thread that someones asks a question then mentions he has PCS on hand and a sarcastic comment is made.
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A bit defensive? Interesting.

pembroke3355 said:
I would say a OTC only would work with something like a h-drol only cycle and some of the mild non methyls such as 3-ad. I always tell people to have a SERM on hand.
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Well, my OPINION, is that is crappy advice. If your HPTA is suppressed, an OTC AI can't compare to a real SERM.
 
Libertarian said:
A bit defensive? Interesting.

Well, my OPINION, is that is crappy advice. If your HPTA is suppressed, an OTC AI can't compare to a real SERM.
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Your entitled to your opinion. But read some of my posts I say a OTC product works well along side of SERM.
 
pembroke3355 said:
Your entitled to your opinion. But read some of my posts I say a OTC product works well along side of SERM.
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I'm not arguing that OTC products can't make worthy compliments to a SERM PCT. I'm not even arguing that you don't sell good products. All I'm saying is I really don't think that telling people that it is "fine" to run steroid cycles without a real SERM for PCT is a good idea. Even if you think there are "certain" times when it is "fine" to go without a real SERM and use OTC products instead, it is still very risky at best. In fact, it is my opinion that to even suggest such a thing is irresponsible.
 
Libertarian said:
I'm not arguing that OTC products can't make worthy compliments to a SERM PCT. I'm not even arguing that you don't sell good products. All I'm saying is I really don't think that telling people that it is "fine" to run steroid cycles without a real SERM for PCT is a good idea. Even if you think there are "certain" times when it is "fine" to go without a real SERM and use OTC products instead, it is still very risky at best. In fact, it is my opinion that to even suggest such a thing is irresponsible.
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For the most part I agree. But we have to face the fact that some people cannot or will not venture into research chems. There have been plenty of times I have told people just not to run the cycle if you cannot or will not get the SERM. In fact I believe I did so in this thread I said you need a SERM.

I do not believe in anyway that I am irresponsible. I try to help as many people as I can both publicly or via PM. If they are bound and determined to run a cycle without a SERM I tell them it is a bad idea but will give them the best possible OTC advise I can.

I do not pimp OTC products just about every single post I have in the pct section I talk about SERMS. We can agree to disagree on the very mild ones. I personally ran h-drol at 75mg for 5 weeks and my bloodwork from the day after pct was pretty good just using our pct product. I did have Nolva in hand.
 
Would you need a SERM for a cycle of CEL P-MAG? I know you said you wouldn't for
H-Drol and everything I read p-mag is close to h-drol.
 
powerlinelift said:
Would you need a SERM for a cycle of CEL P-MAG? I know you said you wouldn't for
H-Drol and everything I read p-mag is close to h-drol.
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You probably could but I would still have the SERM on hand.
 
everyone on here talks about clomid like they walk into CVS and pick it up...but im having a really hard time finding the legitimate stuff. not to mention i found x-tren from a good source and took me 5 minutes, this is day 4 and i cant find the clomid pills at like 20 or 50mg anywhere except some India FDA approved site in Canada lol
 
ebaydan777 said:
everyone on here talks about clomid like they walk into CVS and pick it up...but im having a really hard time finding the legitimate stuff. not to mention i found x-tren from a good source and took me 5 minutes, this is day 4 and i cant find the clomid pills at like 20 or 50mg anywhere except some India FDA approved site in Canada lol
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Go for the liquid a lot easier to find.
 
So what would be a good dosage for clomid for x-tren, I was thinking of 75/50/50/25, possibly along with some inhibit e or cycle assist.
 
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