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Superdrol/Tren log...one more can't hurt.

So here's how I'm doin it.

-2 weeks:
Cycle Support (and throughout cycle)

Week 1:
Superdrol - 10 mg's
Tren (X-Mass) - 40 mg's

Weeks 2-5
Superdrol - 20 mg's
Tren (X-Mass) - 40 mg's
Trenadrol - 60 mg's

Weeks 6-8:
Tren (X-Mass) - 120 mg's


PCT:
Clomid - 50, 50, 50, 50
Arimidex - 1, 1, 1, 1

then I'll have some 6 bromo on hand in case I develop any rebound estro effects.


Starting stats:
6'0
189
10-12% BF
Bench: 275
Squat: 365X5
Dead: 405X2
Hang Cleans: 205X5


pre-cycle pics:
I think they're up idk if I did it right or not...
 

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I would not run superdrol for 5 weeks, after 3-4 weeks of using superdrol, it becomes ineffective;IE, no more strength and weight gains, but sides will continue. 5 weeks of superdrol may completely shut you down=no fun... At the most, 4 weeks of superdrol..
 
So here's how I'm doin it.

-2 weeks:
Cycle Support (and throughout cycle)

Week 1:
Superdrol - 10 mg's
Tren (X-Mass) - 40 mg's

Weeks 2-5
Superdrol - 20 mg's
Tren (X-Mass) - 40 mg's
Trenadrol - 60 mg's

Weeks 6-8:
Tren (X-Mass) - 120 mg's


PCT:
Clomid - 50, 50, 50, 50
Arimidex - 1, 1, 1, 1

then I'll have some 6 bromo on hand in case I develop any rebound estro effects.
SD is not needed for 5 wks like the above posts said. 3 weks and you can go 4 if you arent having any sides.

And PCT??? why the arimidex... are u looking to get rebound gyno? That is not a smart SD PCT.

Run it as such:
Clomid: 100 first few days then 75/50/50/50
6 bromo: starting wk 3 of PCT and running it past the SERM by 2-3 wks

Also are u going to be taking anything for progesterone sides? Tren can produce some nasty gyno and you need to be prepared. p5p, l-dopa, vitrex all good on cycle.
 
I appreciate it man...the whole rebound gyno thing is something I really need to do more research on...I figured a suicide inhibitor would permanently stop aromatization.

I will run the PCT you have laid out there and I will cut the superdrol back to 4 weeks...20 mg's isn't an outrageous dose...and the first week is a 10 mg pulse so it's not a full 5 weeks...but I'll heed the advice.

And I was considering running either bromocriptine or cabergoline all throughout cycle and pct...bad idea?

so...Weeks 2-4:
SD: 20 mg's
X-mass: 40 mg
Trenadrol: 60 mg's

Weeks 5-7:
X-mass: 120 mg's



Look fine? Passing grade at least? Please Teacher.
 
And 120 mg of Tren is A LOT xD...

yeah it is...but it's the end of the cycle and sometimes when gains stop you need to increase the dosage of the steroid or your caloric intake..a combination is my particular way of overcoming that ****.

But I'll be fine I tolerate tren products well...no headaches or nosebleeds on 150 before when I was younger and dumber.
 
Anyways...Started Sunday with an arms day...nice workout good pump

Mon - Legs
Squats - 135X10, 225X10, 275X5, 315X5, 365X2, 225X10, 185X10

Seated Calf Raises - 90 lbs, 135 lbs, 180lbs, 225, 180, 135, 135 toes inward, 135 toes outward

Twisting Decline Crunches - BW 3 sets of 20

Front Squat - 135X10, 185X10, 225X5, 185X8

Crunch Machine - 45X25, 45X25, 45X25, 45X25

One leg curls - idk the weight...3 sets of 10 each leg

One leg extensions - 3 sets

15:00 treadmill


awesome leg day monday...I wanted to keep going

Tuesday and Wednesday I have taken off because my shoulder has been killing me so I wanted to rest it so it's better by the prime time of my cycle.

Thursday (today) I'm gonna go in and try to do back and see how it feels. Will Post back up after the workout.
 
First off..if anyone has any criticism about my physique I would be delighted to hear it. I know I have a LONG way to go in the mass department but if any body parts seem lagging to you please let me know...you won't ruffle my feathers

So here's how

Also are u going to be taking anything for progesterone sides? Tren can produce some nasty gyno and you need to be prepared. p5p, l-dopa, vitrex all good on cycle.

I was planning on running either cabergoline or bromocriptine so I figured I wouldn't need any support supps for that.


Anyways: 10/29 - Thursday - Back day
Deads: 135X5, 225X5, 275X5, 315X5, 365X1, 225X10
Pullups: BW X 8 sets using various grips
Bent Over barbell Row - 135X10, 165X10, 185X8, 185X8, 135X10
V-Sits: 3 seys of 10, Leg Lifts: 3 sets of 10, crunches: 3 sets of 25 (supersetted)
3 sets of assisted pullups
1 arm dumbell row: 75X10, 75X8, 75X5

I was spent but at the same time I felt like i wanted to keep going...I can tell the SD is kicking in.
 
You're in alot better shape than I am; your pictures are my current goal and then I will look to bulk.

I'm not one to give advice on this, but maybe work on the peaks of your biceps a little.
 
You're in alot better shape than I am; your pictures are my current goal and then I will look to bulk.

I'm not one to give advice on this, but maybe work on the peaks of your biceps a little.

Thanks bro! I'm always looking for variations on bicep exercises but I'll really concentrate on squeezing at the top to get the peak built...thanks again

You will get there just keep eating and lifting!
 
cycle is a lot better after you truncated that week off. 8 weeks would be a TON. The thing i'd be worried about is shutdown, even at 7 weeks it's going to be pretty bad. Throw as much other supplemental crap into your PCT as you can to keep gains. As for the cycle man you should get big on that... You look like the kind that doesn't gain much fat so I think you should really jack up the calories.
 
use aromasin in pct instead of arimidex... there will be no rebound.. aromasin is frequently used in pct for its ability to boost igf and boost test levels, as well as it being less harsh on the liver then other ais... u can run it two weeks past your clomid if u like.
 
use aromasin in pct instead of arimidex... there will be no rebound.. aromasin is frequently used in pct for its ability to boost igf and boost test levels, as well as it being less harsh on the liver then other ais... u can run it two weeks past your clomid if u like.

I agree...aromasin is a suicide inhibitor and arimidex is not, which will help reduce the possibility of rebound gyno. Clomid and Nolva also interfere with effectiveness of arimidex.

Adex = on-cycle (if needed)

Aromasin = off-cycle/PCT
 
Completely forgot I started this thread...if a mod could shut it that would be awesome...I have another log floating around somewhere..I got delayed a week anyway and am on day 3 now.
 
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