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epi dosage

booya123

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just started my first cycle 2 days ago i been taking one in the morning after b-fast and one 5 hrs later. just wondering if this is the most beneficial way to dose them or should i be taking them all together?
 
depends lots of different opinion on what to do. but just remember to try to take them on an empty stomach or with little fat in your meal you take them with.


"Studies have shown that taking an oral anabolic steroid with food may decrease its bioavailability. This is caused by the fat-soluble nature of steroid hormones, which can allow some of the drug to dissolve with undigested dietary fat, reducing its absorption from the gastrointestinal tract. For maximum utilization,this steroid should be taken on an empty stomach."
 
methyls are fat-soluable, so take your epi with some natty pb or fish oil. You'll feel it kick it a lot quicker, I know I did.
 
i spread mine out evenly throughout the day always, with one dose an hour b4 workout. I know a lot of people disagree with even distribution, but it works well for me.
 
soujerz said:
"Studies have shown that taking an oral anabolic steroid with food may decrease its bioavailability. This is caused by the fat-soluble nature of steroid hormones, which can allow some of the drug to dissolve with undigested dietary fat, reducing its absorption from the gastrointestinal tract. For maximum utilization,this steroid should be taken on an empty stomach."
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TheDarkHalf said:
methyls are fat-soluable, so take your epi with some natty pb or fish oil. You'll feel it kick it a lot quicker, I know I did.
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These two statements are in contradiction with each other. In general I've heard the latter more often but I think the former may make more sense to me. Although I could easily make the argument that it is better for the gear to sit in your stomach than to be excreated from the body. The ingestion of fat may also stimulate the release of enzymes to absorb fat-soluble compounds. However, soujerz argument intrigues me. Can you provide a reference for your quoted text?
 
yeah my reference is "Anabolics 2009 - Anabolics 9th Edition by William Llewellyn"

he covers H-Drol and Epi in the book.

i have the e-book. and i agree based off my own understanding of biochem. I understand a small amount of food with fat may help absorption but a large meal IMO would lead to steroid/PH to be excreted with undigested fat. So maybe just a slice of wheat bread with a tbsp of natty PB. but not a 500 to 750 calorie meal.
 
soujerz said:
yeah my reference is "Anabolics 2009 - Anabolics 9th Edition by William Llewellyn"

he covers H-Drol and Epi in the book.

i have the e-book. and i agree based off my own understanding of biochem. I understand a small amount of food with fat may help absorption but a large meal IMO would lead to steroid/PH to be excreted with undigested fat. So maybe just a slice of wheat bread with a tbsp of natty PB. but not a 500 to 750 calorie meal.
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hmm.... but the book says empty stomach is best. You think though that a tablespoon of natural peanut butter is better? I could see the argument either way.
 
CrazyChemist said:
hmm.... but the book says empty stomach is best. You think though that a tablespoon of natural peanut butter is better? I could see the argument either way.
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That's pretty much what I did, every time I'd dose i'd just take it with a 1 tsp of natty. I've given that advice to a few others that were mid cycle and they too said they noticed a difference in how epi kicked in. But without proper testing for all we know my body my have just responded better than others to epi.

fat-soluble nature of steroid hormones
 
How about taking with a protein shake in the morning?? I drink ON oats & whey for breakfast..About 50 gms protein and like 40-50 carbs i believe..Would that be ok??
 
wolfe14 said:
How about taking with a protein shake in the morning?? I drink ON oats & whey for breakfast..About 50 gms protein and like 40-50 carbs i believe..Would that be ok??
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I would try to do it 30 mins before or 30-60 mins after you eat. My suggestion would be to try it with food and without food and see which way you like it better.
 
CrazyChemist said:
These two statements are in contradiction with each other. In general I've heard the latter more often but I think the former may make more sense to me. Although I could easily make the argument that it is better for the gear to sit in your stomach than to be excreated from the body. The ingestion of fat may also stimulate the release of enzymes to absorb fat-soluble compounds. However, soujerz argument intrigues me. Can you provide a reference for your quoted text?
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I have always heard
Methylated-No fat
Non Methylated-Fat
 
fightbackhxc said:
I have always heard
Methylated-No fat
Non Methylated-Fat
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From a chemical standpoint I have trouble accepting that. The methyl group doesnt really effect the hydrophobicity of the compound. However, if enzymes are involved, as they usually are, then anythings possible.
 
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