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Epistane PCT help

gottabecool

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I am looking at running a relatively low dose on my first cycle. 4 weeks, probably 10/20/20/30, or if I respond real well the first week it might even be less.

I am looking at Clomid and it's clones, but is there any other options? Links?
 
I am running my first cycle of epi soon as well..Waiting till my shoulder heals so prob NOV 1st....I have all my pct supps but haven't ordered my SERM yet but i am debating between Nolvadex or clomid...I'm getting mixed reviews...Can anyone shed some light on which would be better for an EPI cycle?
 
Yeah, it is a mild substance and there are quite a few who ditch the list of stuff and just run a SERM. I am actually considering the TRS from Primordial...But looking for options out there.
 
Mee too! I just dont want gyno or loss of libido...So If I need a SERM to ensure that then I'm gonna prob go that route, just not sure if it matters which one or if one is more beneficial than the other when it comes to Epi..Clomid vs. Nolva
 
there are benefits with either, clomid's usually the better...But I am looking for an additional option. Maybe one that doesn't have to be imported.
 
I have run that same cycle before. Used cycle support during and several OTC products after. Never had any sides... not saying you won't... but it is a very mild cycle. Good luck - hope you have some great gains!
 
at 240 10mg aint gonna do ****. 20 probably wont be that good either, jsut do 30 the whole way through

PCT
nolva
test booster
cortisol control product

win
 
warbird01 said:
at 240 10mg aint gonna do ****. 20 probably wont be that good either, jsut do 30 the whole way through

PCT
nolva
test booster
cortisol control product

win
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I agree with this dosing as 10-20mg is not much.
 
gottabecool said:
Yeah, it is a mild substance and there are quite a few who ditch the list of stuff and just run a SERM. I am actually considering the TRS from Primordial...But looking for options out there.
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Just about to finish week 3 of my epi cycle. I will be using the TRS by PP for my PCT. SO far no sides and no lose of libido at all, . cycle is 30,30,30,40. Just bumped it to 40 today for the final week, all I can say is the last week is going to be fun
 
I knew what OTC meant, LOL

I was asking what specific OTC's were used and dosing as a PCT. I think I will just order some clomid and call it a day, would rather use something easy to get. Might have both on hand in case I do need to seriously step up the dose...

I am just wanting to run the cycle lightly to see how I react at first, If I see nothing the first week, I will step it up.
 
gottabecool said:
I knew what OTC meant, LOL

I was asking what specific OTC's were used and dosing as a PCT. I think I will just order some clomid and call it a day, would rather use something easy to get. Might have both on hand in case I do need to seriously step up the dose...

I am just wanting to run the cycle lightly to see how I react at first, If I see nothing the first week, I will step it up.
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Oh there are so many OTC PCT products and the dosing is different on each.
 
gottabecool said:
Correct. I was looking for what someone has used after Epistane with good results.
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A lot of people use Post Cycle Support(which was developed for epi pct) also Resversitol and Formex are used. Some use a combo of these.
 
gottabecool said:
What OTC's?
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I use Reversitol with directed dosings along with the standard stuff I take when off cycle: Jack3d, Creatine, ZMA, Trib, etc. I'll gain around 10lbs of lean mass and keep 8-9 of them. Post cycle I drop some of my calorie intake to start shedding some of the BF that I added as well so I am sure that contributes to the 1-2 pounds of loss.... but it helps me get my abs back quickly.

I just dont think epi products are strong enough to "require" a SERM. To each their own though. (I may be asking for some hater threads now but that is just my opinion.) :twak:

Now, if I were running a SD clone I would certainly use a SERM along with a ton of other sh*t. That is why I don't run them... too much trouble for me.

But if I read your post correctly this is your 1st cycle?? If so, you need to do what makes you feel comfortable. You don't want to have any added stress by not having a SERM for PCT if that will ease your mind... and better to have a SERM on hand incase you do experience some sides. Good luck on your cycle! (Cancel hater threads) :cheers:
 
I did want to add that the 1st time I went to 4 a day I did get some back pumps after a couple of days. I increased my water intake even more and they went away. Just wanted to throw that out there incase you experience the same thing you may want to try more water.
 
gottabecool said:
Correct. I was looking for what someone has used after Epistane with good results.
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I used Stoked/PCS, MassFX, Lean Xtreme and great results. Continued to make gains. I did have clomid on hand.
 
I ran 40mg epi for the whole bottle and didnt have any sides...libido was still normal and everything...I ran the TRS for pct and I prob have about a day or 2 left of it but I keep forgetting my stuff at home so I havnt used it in a week or 2 but I feel great
 
I think i will play it safe and run Nolva as a PCT, if I decide to stack my Propadrol with it, then I will likely run the Clomid for PCT instead. It depends how I respond to the Epi depends if I stack it with Prop or not.

I ordered both Nolva and Clomid for this reason, not planning on running both. I needed a small stock pile. LOL.
 
gottabecool said:
I think i will play it safe and run Nolva as a PCT, if I decide to stack my Propadrol with it, then I will likely run the Clomid for PCT instead. It depends how I respond to the Epi depends if I stack it with Prop or not.


I ordered both Nolva and Clomid for this reason, not planning on running both. I needed a small stock pile. LOL.
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Sounds like a good plan bro.
 
at 240lbs i suggest 20,30,30,40 or even 30,30,40,40. The thing you have to keep in mind is by the 4th week gains are tapering off a bit while on a ph and the more mg you take can just increase your side effects. im about to start an epi cycle myself at 20,30,30,40. Epistane usally dont really have bad side effects or too much effect on libido. if you were taking something a little more serious i would say take reversitrol and a serm as pct.
all im gonna take is nolva, zma, creatine and other support supps in order to keep my gains and strength.
 
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