1 week cycle - any thoughts?

henryhavoc

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I've ran quite a few AAS before, and something I noticed about one of my favorites, mdrol, was that I gain a lot of my weight in the first week of the cycle (10mg ed). This got me thinking.. Why not try a one week cycle?

In a three week mdrol cycle, I typically gain around 12lbs and keep around 10lbs after PCT. 5lbs or so of that comes in the first week in my experience.

My idea would consist of running a strong AAS such as mdrol for the first week of every other month, and follow it up with a PCT recommended by you guys. These 1 week cycles would work hand in hand with my steady bulk diet that I've been putting together.

Any thoughts? Would you want to see something like this logged?
 
Typically when I run a cycle of mdrol, I do a 10/20/20 breakdown. However I don't think anyone has really ran such a short cycle before, so I would be more than open to suggestions. :147:
 
You gain 5lb in one week with only 10mg? Wow.

I thought about a cycle with 10mg sd five times per weak (pre WO) for two weeks with 4 days 20mg Nolva as pct (should be enough).
 
Yeah I react really well with sd. It's by far my favorite designer out there. Right now I only have around 10 caps left in my mdrol bottle, so I might just run it and log it.
 
go for it. but if you gain 5lbs in the first week then how much do you think you'll keep after pct? seeing as how you keep 10lbs after a full cycle.

btw. I glad this isn't a stupid post. I was expecting to look at this thread and see "I wanna run a week cycle and i was thinking 80-90mg Mdrol for 7 days. Does that sound like a good idea?"
 
Hopefully I'll keep 4lbs or so for that week. As I stated before, my ultimate goal is a slow bulk that is easy to maintain in the long run. If you think about it, 4lbs every other month is pretty good, especially in conjunction with a bulking regimen. I'll start getting my materials together and I'll post a link to the log as soon as I start ;)
 
I would look at pulsing mdrol get on a 2 on 1 off split. 10mg pre and 10mg post... Do not take on non workout days. I would go 2 wks on 1-2 wks off. This can be continued for a while.

IMO SD is the best pulsing compound due to it rapid action.
 
the 1 week idea seems to be also paralled in the minicycles thread where people ran sd at 5mg for a few weeks

thinking outside the box is great, and many boards dont like it, but perhaps pulsing might be safer in terms of shutdown/pct
 
Did some 1 week cycles with M1T back in the days.
Used 30mg for 7days and always gained at least 5lbs.
The reason for only 1 week was that M1t made me feel like crap after the one week mark and also gave me a lot of acne.
 
Ahhh there is a tremendous flaw in this

Initial weight gain is so rapid because its entirely water and glycogen. That's why strength gains usually don't come in the first week even though you gain 5-10 pounds. The compound is building an anabolic environment and it's really in the following weeks that the actual increases in LBM are made.

Running SD for a week will give you a noticeable boost up but not much of the weight gained is going to be muscle, it'll be the next week when you're off the compound that you'll benefit from the workouts made the previous week in the SD-aided environment.
 
I would look at pulsing mdrol get on a 2 on 1 off split. 10mg pre and 10mg post... Do not take on non workout days. I would go 2 wks on 1-2 wks off. This can be continued for a while.

IMO SD is the best pulsing compound due to it rapid action.
 
UnrealMachine said:
Ahhh there is a tremendous flaw in this

Initial weight gain is so rapid because its entirely water and glycogen. That's why strength gains usually don't come in the first week even though you gain 5-10 pounds. The compound is building an anabolic environment and it's really in the following weeks that the actual increases in LBM are made.

Running SD for a week will give you a noticeable boost up but not much of the weight gained is going to be muscle, it'll be the next week when you're off the compound that you'll benefit from the workouts made the previous week in the SD-aided environment.
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Orals work immedietly after entering the blood. So i dont think it needs two or more weeks for it to build muscles.
 
mcgeier said:
Orals work immedietly after entering the blood. So i dont think it needs two or more weeks for it to build muscles.
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that is true, but what aspect?

the increased pump, gylcogen storage, and recovery i think will be noticeable, however, if they work as immediately as i believe you are implying, why is it that PHs eg Hdrol take a few weeks to kick in even though you are dosing at 50-75mg everyday?
 
UnrealMachine said:
Ahhh there is a tremendous flaw in this

Initial weight gain is so rapid because its entirely water and glycogen. That's why strength gains usually don't come in the first week even though you gain 5-10 pounds. The compound is building an anabolic environment and it's really in the following weeks that the actual increases in LBM are made.

Running SD for a week will give you a noticeable boost up but not much of the weight gained is going to be muscle, it'll be the next week when you're off the compound that you'll benefit from the workouts made the previous week in the SD-aided environment.
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Thanks Unreal, this was my only concern with running something like this. I'll do some more research ;)

borje said:
When you get off your cycles do feel any difference, like lack off motivation?
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I've ran sd twice, along with phera once and 19-nor "tren" once aswell. I don't really feel a lack of motivation on the off cycle period, just a **** ton of extra motivation while I'm on cycle.

Liftingstud said:
I would look at pulsing mdrol get on a 2 on 1 off split. 10mg pre and 10mg post... Do not take on non workout days. I would go 2 wks on 1-2 wks off. This can be continued for a while.

IMO SD is the best pulsing compound due to it rapid action.
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I'll look into that, thanks!
 
mcgeier said:
Orals work immedietly after entering the blood. So i dont think it needs two or more weeks for it to build muscles.
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How many cycles have you run? Even orals take time to kick in. You'll have a much higher blood concentration on week 3 than day 1.... The first few days is the concentration buildup period and your body will respond with a rapid uptake of water and glycogen.

With the added water and glycogen comes more energy and endurance during your workouts. your muscles literally have more fuel to burn and recover faster. This environment enables rapid rebuilding after after workout as protein synthesis is on overdrive. So the weightlifting you do in the first week will take a week to repair and week 2 you will see the strength increases from it.

Similarly I keep making gains the week after a cycle because I'm benefitting from the muscle built up from the previous week's lifting. Then the rug gets pulled out from under you and gains drop of rapidly.


@ The OP i have thought for a while about 1 on 1 off and 2 on 2 off and various other methods but none of them appeals to me quite as much as pulsing. Going a week on then off and repeating and running PCT between the weeks means that you're either on orals or on toxic PCT chems the whole time which just doens't sound good... Pulsing is nice because the staggered doses are timed to give your body time to recover its test production so suppression does not become nearly as complete as running it straight. I do pulses without taking anything on off days...
If you lift 3-4x a week try out a pulse with Superdrol IMO
 
UnrealMachine said:
How many cycles have you run? Even orals take time to kick in. You'll have a much higher blood concentration on week 3 than day 1.... The first few days is the concentration buildup period and your body will respond with a rapid uptake of water and glycogen.

With the added water and glycogen comes more energy and endurance during your workouts. your muscles literally have more fuel to burn and recover faster. This environment enables rapid rebuilding after after workout as protein synthesis is on overdrive. So the weightlifting you do in the first week will take a week to repair and week 2 you will see the strength increases from it.

Similarly I keep making gains the week after a cycle because I'm benefitting from the muscle built up from the previous week's lifting. Then the rug gets pulled out from under you and gains drop of rapidly.


@ The OP i have thought for a while about 1 on 1 off and 2 on 2 off and various other methods but none of them appeals to me quite as much as pulsing. Going a week on then off and repeating and running PCT between the weeks means that you're either on orals or on toxic PCT chems the whole time which just doens't sound good... Pulsing is nice because the staggered doses are timed to give your body time to recover its test production so suppression does not become nearly as complete as running it straight. I do pulses without taking anything on off days...
If you lift 3-4x a week try out a pulse with Superdrol IMO
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Agree with that but especially pulsing is based on the fact that orals work fast. So on apulse ther eis no such buildup or is it?
 
I work concrete. And it's push time here in the North-snows comming in a few months. 60 hrs a week is killing my gym time ( from 5 days a week to 2 or 3 good wrk-outs) My CNS is about shot, I ache everywhere feet, legs, calves, back, shoulders, arms wrists, you name it.

I remembered how great I felt during the last cycle-recovery time was amazing-like cut in half!

My solution was to start a light pulse of 2a 17a methadrol on my weekends. Starting Fri AM 30mg a day spaced 8 hrs apart. Fri-Sun. I also lift heavy Sat and Sun. By Monday after noon I'm feeling about 95% back to normal evenb though I work mondays. Also I have been putting on about a lb a week (for two weeks now). And no BF, I'm leaning out due to working so much even though I'm putting in about 3400-3600 cals daily.

I believe that PH bursts/pulses or low dose, or short cycle can have a substantial effect. My 40 yo 10 month body is prooving it to me!

My job is very, very physical! It's a workout every day. Why not use it to my advantage?

BTW, the biggest lats I've ever seen on a non lifter were on a concrete finnisher!
 
mcgeier said:
Orals work immedietly after entering the blood. So i dont think it needs two or more weeks for it to build muscles.
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you think you build 10lbs of muscle in a week.

I was thinking the same thing unreal said.

if you use sd for a week, at any dosage, the gains you see in that week will be gone shortly after stopping that cycle.
 
mcgeier said:
Agree with that but especially pulsing is based on the fact that orals work fast. So on apulse ther eis no such buildup or is it?
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That's true but you pulse for much longer than a week! Pulses are really meant to allow for greatly extended durations... That's why when i did my first pulse (Epi, up to 50mg 3x a week) i went 8 weeks, with no sides that I can attribute solely to epi, and shutdown that I would deem almost negligible.

A pulse is meant to spike concentration for a critical period of time (during the workout and then around the next 12 hours post workout). The low frequency of "ON" time means the duration has to be much longer.

That's why I don't understand 4 week pulses too much... With most compounds i think 6 weeks is a minimum and it's really more geared towards 8 weeks. And with some compounds I think you could go 10 weeks.
 
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