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Well Thought Out Cycle - help

GMG your right. But I weighed 130 in december 08 because i had an injury and was out of the gym for a year. But the previous year i had made it all the way to 150lbs. I have been lifting on and off since i was 16.

I know sometimes you guys bag on me, and sometimes I deserve it, most of the time. I wanna say sorry to all the people I hated on, who used hormones or steroids to help them acheive their goals, I made some ignorant comments. And with that being said, I'll keep yall updated on when I start my cycle of test e 600mg/wk and I'll make a video log of it so I can be corrected if I'm using improper form or if yall want proof of how much weight or whatever.

mooch what do you think about a superdrol kickstart for the first week at 10mg a day and the second week at 20mg?
 
TimberLakers said:
Yes, top or bottom...?

Sorry, I was temporarily blinded by Mooch's apparent lack of testes.

I hate you Busterzzzzz.
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hehehe.....All you first time cycle'rs out there, take heed! Make sure you use hcg and clomid or you will end up chemically neutered like ole mooch! Then you will have to be nice to guys like Busterzzzzzzz and Timberzzzzzzzzzzzzz cuz ya aint got no BALLS!!!!!!!!!!! HAI GAIS!!!!!!!!!! ZZZZOOOOMMMMGGGGZZZZZZZZ
 
mooch2321 said:
hehehe.....All you first time cycle'rs out there, take heed! Make sure you use hcg and clomid or you will end up chemically neutered like ole mooch! Then you will have to be nice to guys like Busterzzzzzzz and Timberzzzzzzzzzzzzz cuz ya aint got no BALLS!!!!!!!!!!! HAI GAIS!!!!!!!!!! ZZZZOOOOMMMMGGGGZZZZZZZZ
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i don't think hcg is necessary on a test cycle. imo
 
mooch2321 said:
give him a break guys....this sh!ts getting kind of old....at one point in my athletic life i was on a D1 college team (i was a wrestler) and I thought it was completely wrong to use steroids and was very vocal about it....after i started training for size for a few years, the emperor was able to sway me and bring me over to the dark side. We all say things we regret...yada yada yada...i know its fun for you guys to hate buster but jeez...i gotta tell ya its getting old....Or mabye its just me...
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Although i agree with you on most parts and think buster should get a break on somethings on this subject I don't not because he said he'd never use them but because of how quickly he changes his mind and what he thinks "research" is. Honestly the way he posts i think he has no business being around juice he just doesn't seem responsible enough
 
mixedup said:
Although i agree with you on most parts and think buster should get a break on somethings on this subject I don't not because he said he'd never use them but because of how quickly he changes his mind and what he thinks "research" is. Honestly the way he posts i think he has no business being around juice he just doesn't seem responsible enough
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Exactly X2 That why mooch is such a tool as well for letting this go on like he is actually "doing research". I will say it again research takes more than days!
 
Again, i agree with Mooch. HCG is so cheap, there is no reason NOT to run it.

I say if he wants to do a cycle, then by all means it is his right. At the end of the day a person is going to do, what they want to do.

I get the fact that he keeps flip flopping his opinion, but he was obviously using the "roids" thing, as ammo against you guys in some sort of E-war, and was clearly speaking out of his ass. Does he look dumb, for it, YES, but i am sure we have all played the role of hypocrite at one point or another.
 
Does everyone forget that buster was the same person who couldn't last 4 weeks on formestane without drinking? Buster i have no problem with you taking hormones but you need to make sure that you have everything in your life in check before you decide to do something as serious as this.
 
punthra said:
Does everyone forget that buster was the same person who couldn't last 4 weeks on formestane without drinking? Buster i have no problem with you taking hormones but you need to make sure that you have everything in your life in check before you decide to do something as serious as this.
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Eh.. That is not really relevant man.. So you are saying no one on here, has had some drinks while on form, or any other number of supplements?
 
nope, i'm not saying that but getting plowed when your on isn't exactly the most genious idea in the world. How about all the random times he just stopped going to gym cause he was partying. Know the history before you start telling me i'm off base. I just want the guy to smart if he's going do a cycle, sorry if that bothers you. If he's going to do it he might as well get the most out of it.
 
punthra said:
nope, i'm not saying that but getting plowed when your on isn't exactly the most genious idea in the world. How about all the random times he just stopped going to gym cause he was partying. Know the history before you start telling me i'm off base. I just want the guy to smart if he's going do a cycle, sorry if that bothers you. If he's going to do it he might as well get the most out of it.
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It doesn't bother me at all.. I could care less what anyone decides to do their body. He knows it is not a good idea, but ultimetly it is his decision if he decides to do so.

But, being on form, and drinking is not relevant to him being on a cycle. I agree that one should not drink on cycle, but we cant say because he drank while taking Form. he will drink on cycle. ya know?

Just to be clear, i agree with you, for the most part(no drinking on cycle, and make the best of it), just not with your drinking on formestane, example..
 
The reason i mentioned the form is because he was doing a sponsored log and he couldn't even handle being responsible for 4 weeks, which leaves me guessing that 12 weeks is probably going to go much worse. But again, you're right that the ball is in his court he can make whatever decision he wants to. I just have a hard time supporting stupidity from someone who could end messing himself up and then possibly blaming this board for his mistakes. Juice / hormones are already looked upon as bad to most people due to lack of knowledge and poor examples of use by idiots who don't know what there doing. The ban continues on products that work because of people like buster!!!! I just can't support this, for so many different reasons. Rant over!
 
punthra said:
The reason i mentioned the form is because he was doing a sponsored log and he couldn't even handle being responsible for 4 weeks, which leaves me guessing that 12 weeks is probably going to go much worse. But again, you're right that the ball is in his court he can make whatever decision he wants to. I just have a hard time supporting stupidity from someone who could end messing himself up and then possibly blaming this board for his mistakes. Juice / hormones are already looked upon as bad to most people due to lack of knowledge and poor examples of use by idiots who don't know what there doing. The ban continues on products that work because of people like buster!!!! I just can't support this, for so many different reasons. Rant over!
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I agree.. The thing is, with a cycle, there is MUCH more of a "i can't drink" mentality, so you tend to make smarter decisions.(at least i do)lol
 
if he was pining would drinking matter as much? or just orals are the big deal with drinking? just curious
 
Well, he is asking about kick-starting with Mdrol, which will do a number to his liver by itself. The Nolvadex, toremifine, or clomid... whatever his PCT ends up being will also be harsh on his liver.

Alchohol is not anabolic, in fact quite the opposite, so yes, drinking while cycling steroids, be them oral or inject, is a bad idea to begin with. Drinking is just bad for you in general, many organs are effected beyond the liver, and these organs are also effected by steroids no matter what the administration technique is.
 
GMG760 said:
Alchohol is not anabolic, in fact quite the opposite, so yes, drinking while cycling steroids, be them oral or inject, is a bad idea to begin with. Drinking is just bad for you in general, many organs are effected beyond the liver, and these organs are also effected by steroids no matter what the administration technique is.
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ok that answers my question. I have been told by others if you do drink or plan on drinking take extra liv.52 instead of 1 or 2 a day that day you decide to drink take 4-5 and the next few days take a high dose also. Plus if you drink a good amount of water the night you get home will help. OR GM am I way off on this?
 
Well, more milk thistle will help you if you have liver issues. I tend to mega-dose the stuff anyway when on cycle.

In my honest opinion, if you are going to drink while on cycle you just might as well not cycle. It's really one or the other. If you can't abstain from alcohol for the period of a cycle, you don't have the responsibility to use steroids. If you feel the need to "party" or "relieve stress" and need a drink to do so, then you're not focused on your goals at the gym and in the kitchen, so why do steroids in the first place? You obviously aren't going to meet serious goals, and if you don't have serious goals, why risk any side effects that steroid use might bring? I guess vanity is the reason most people drink and cycle, but that's a pretty wack excuse. I simply won't condone drinking and cycling whatsoever. That is my opinion and I stand by it.
 
GMG760 said:
Well, he is asking about kick-starting with Mdrol, which will do a number to his liver by itself. The Nolvadex, toremifine, or clomid... whatever his PCT ends up being will also be harsh on his liver.

Alchohol is not anabolic, in fact quite the opposite, so yes, drinking while cycling steroids, be them oral or inject, is a bad idea to begin with. Drinking is just bad for you in general, many organs are effected beyond the liver, and these organs are also effected by steroids no matter what the administration technique is.
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Alcohol isnt anabolic? Looks like someone needs to do some research. FTW!!
 
bigmoe65 said:
I dont do steroids. Also you dont have to send me a pm to insult me, please do it in public so everyone can see what a douche you are.
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Oh really b1tch. i would like to see you say that to my face e tough guy. You are the one that wrote me a message Saying and i quote" bigmoe65 Im ****ing with buster." because i said you shouldn't back busters ridiculous ideas. so pick a side you spineless biotch! Way to switch your words to your favor!:gay:
 
bigmoe65 said:
I dont do steroids. Also you dont have to send me a pm to insult me, please do it in public so everyone can see what a douche you are.
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And you don't do steroids huh? why does your post before this one say that you have your nuts because you use hcg? you just use it for the hell of it? Or you are just talking out your ass like buster? Or are you buster?
 
hman85 said:
And you don't do steroids huh? why does your post before this one say that you have your nuts because you use hcg? you just use it for the hell of it? Or you are just talking out your ass like buster? Or are you buster?
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Bizzaro Buster.

Perhaps my favorite charactor of all time. Best 2 weeks of my life.
 
TimberLakers said:
Bizzaro Buster.

Perhaps my favorite charactor of all time. Best 2 weeks of my life.
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Seriously. That one lasted so much longer than expected, and was quite possibly the funniest e-joke I have ever witnessed.
 
Buster, are you still bitter that I'm the one that made you (in)famous at AM.com?

If I just straight up ignored you, this thread would have about 0 replies.

Just sayin. :dunno:
 
hman85 said:
Oh really b1tch. i would like to see you say that to my face e tough guy. You are the one that wrote me a message Saying and i quote" bigmoe65 Im ****ing with buster." because i said you shouldn't back busters ridiculous ideas. so pick a side you spineless biotch! Way to switch your words to your favor!:gay:
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Yes I am f#cking with buster, but youre a better target. See I knew the douchiness would come out.

hman85 said:
And you don't do steroids huh? why does your post before this one say that you have your nuts because you use hcg? you just use it for the hell of it? Or you are just talking out your ass like buster? Or are you buster?
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Im on the hcg diet. Yes I am buster.
 
bigmoe65 said:
Thank you. Now back on topic, Buster how soon can you start this cycle?
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Buster just called me... Wants to know what to do if you lose the syringe in your butthole...

He says he can't sit down to type, so just blow him up on his twitter.

@BusterRoids
 
hman85 said:
How many injects have you done oh great one?
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ummm...ive lost count, its not something that excites me any more. What a wierd question...do you sit in your bedroom, at your parents house, beating off to the idea of running a cycle?.....ewww

hman85 said:
Exactly X2 That why mooch is such a tool as well for letting this go on like he is actually "doing research". I will say it again research takes more than days!
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Im pragmatic, buster is going to run this cycle whith or without our input...so why not help him to attempt to do it right...then the ball will be in his court...why are you so worried about buster? If i were you id go to the gym and then eat something little fella....

imprezivr6 said:
Again, i agree with Mooch. HCG is so cheap, there is no reason NOT to run it.

I say if he wants to do a cycle, then by all means it is his right. At the end of the day a person is going to do, what they want to do.

I get the fact that he keeps flip flopping his opinion, but he was obviously using the "roids" thing, as ammo against you guys in some sort of E-war, and was clearly speaking out of his ass. Does he look dumb, for it, YES, but i am sure we have all played the role of hypocrite at one point or another.
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Always nice to hear what you have to say prez.....

TimberLakers said:
Buster just called me... Wants to know what to do if you lose the syringe in your butthole...

He says he can't sit down to type, so just blow him up on his twitter.

@BusterRoids
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Oh Timberzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!! you so funny!!!! No seriously, twitter...roflmao!!!!
 
So if the present tense of the act of using twitter is "tweeting" is the past tense "twatted"?
 
OOMMMGGGDDZZzz, hai guyz! :wave2:

Hay, I've ben takin CreaAtTinez 4 liek 2 dayz n my nutz hurt liek hell!

Is thz da gynos?

I have Nolva. Shuld I taek sum?

Hit me up on my twitter.

@BusterRoids
 
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