Time for my 2nd cycle...need a bit a assistance

TheBreeze

TheBreeze

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So I ran a very successful H-drol cycle in Feb and got strong and had great recomp effects. Now im getting the urge to run a second cycle because Ive lost a considerable amount of strength and definition due to numerous reasons.

Im looking to definately add considerable strenght as always, lean up, and hopefully add some lean muscle mass which I know is always possible. Take a look at the picture below add see what I have stocked up on(yeah I know...I stocked up b/c of the PH ban talk. But this should last me a while.)

Basically, I have a few slight ideas on cycles Id like to run but I want your guys opinions on here b/c you all are far more experienced than I. Also I wouldnt mind trying a bridge for this cycle.

Stats:
25yrs old
6'1" 220-225lbs on an avg day
approx 7 yrs lifting experience
2nd shifter so I lift in the A.M. approx 4-5 days/wk
nutrition is my biggest downfall...its really hard for me to make myself eat enough food to keep my stomach full all the time cause Im never hungry untill before bed. But when ON I eat approx 2-5 chicken breast/day.

Thanks ahead of time...
 

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mw1 said:
Pmag and Eq plex would be a good stack...however P-plex bridged w/ E-stane or Hdrol is VERY nice;)
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Unfortunately I didnt purchase any Pplex. Plus Pplex appears to be a little more harsh than Pmag or Eq Plex, am I correct???
I wouldnt mind running Pplex Im just a little nervous about my diet while ON seeing as how thats my biggest problem hands down.

Being that Ive never ran Pmag or Eq Plex before, what type of schedule would you reccomend? Plus it makes me a bit unsure to bridge to PHs Ive never used before without knowing how I will respond to either one.

Also Id really like to try the Estane soon too. What type of cycles would be reccomended for that. I cant seem to find a whole lot of threads on here about this stuff.

Thanks
 
After a considerable amount of reading tonight Ive come to the conclusion Id like to definately run EQ-plex. Im thinking of either a solo run or possibly bridging or stacking it with either P-mag or H-drol.

However after what Ive recently learned my question remains...is EQ-plex a type I like the original Bold or type II anabolic like I read most orals fall under.

Im pretty sure Pmag would fall under the type II anabolic...am I correct on this??
Im asking because after my readings Ive learned theres a lot of things that matter when using multiple PHs at the same time. Especailly their classes, so they dont work against each other.

I really want to start this cycle soon so all input is highly appreciated. And I hope I can get the type of gains I read about others getting on this site.
 
So I just clicked in my order for CEL's CA, PCT assist, TD Formestane and SNS Inhibit-E. I plan on using these for my next cycle of EQ-plex which I am so excited to start. Only problem is I am still researching at the present time trying to make the most of this cycle.

Also, seeing as Ive only done one cycle of H-drol in the past and didnt require a SERM, Ive been looking into getting one just to be safe. Cause gyno is nasty and very hard to get rid of and I DO NOT want any part of it.
With that being said, does anyone have any opionions on Clomid or Torem.

I read that Clomid will block estrogen from binding to breast tissue which is appealing. However, I also read that Torem has a positive effect on cholesterol and the liver.
Which do you guys think would be the better of the two for a 25 yr old with no known gyno. Only problem I have is that my nips are never hard untill stimulated. But theyve never itched and only hurt a few times in 7th grade but I attribute that to the shirt I was wearting.

THANKS FELLA
 
mw1 said:
First of all , dont rely on the Class 1/class 2 system for stacking phs. Its has a lot of inconsistencies and should just "guide".

For a SERM you could use either Clomid or Nolva - each have their own pros and cons(sides also)
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Thanks. So I take it the classing system is more for AS than PH?

Also, thanks for clearing up the SERM question. I only really trust one place to get a SERM and theyre fresh out of Nolva so it looks like its gonna be Clomid for me. Besides, I can be extremely prone to many kinds of depression and Ive read Nolva can cause some pretty proufound cases of this as a side.
 
So Ive narrowed it down that I want to run EQ-Plex and Pmag either together or one of them solo. This part Im not 100% sure of yet.

However, I have purchased a few cycle nessecities in the mean time.
So far I have:
Cycle assist
PCT assist
TD Formestane
Inhibit-E
LeanFX

I plan on obtaining some Clomid citrate before beggining the cycle as well.

A few questions I have are
1. If started 4caps/2x a day for two weeks prior, how and when should I taper the CA during the ON period or should it continue into PCT?

2.Ive read PCT assist should also be tapered from week to week throughout PCT. Is this true?

3.Since Formestane has anti-E properties, how should this and the Inhibit-E both be incorperated together during PCT? And how should each be tapered.
(Ive read to start the formestane around wk 3 at 100mgs-wk 1 or 2 or PCT then be tapered to 50mgs. Am I correct here?)

4.Lastly, should I run LeanFX at the bottle reccomendations or taper this as well thoughout PCT?

Thank You to everyone whos helped me up to this point. Ive leaned a LOT. I cant wait to be as knowlegeable as some of the guys on this site.
 
TheBreeze said:
So Ive narrowed it down that I want to run EQ-Plex and Pmag either together or one of them solo. This part Im not 100% sure of yet.

However, I have purchased a few cycle nessecities in the mean time.
So far I have:
Cycle assist
PCT assist
TD Formestane
Inhibit-E
LeanFX

I plan on obtaining some Clomid citrate before beggining the cycle as well.

A few questions I have are
1. If started 4caps/2x a day for two weeks prior, how and when should I taper the CA during the ON period or should it continue into PCT?

2.Ive read PCT assist should also be tapered from week to week throughout PCT. Is this true?

3.Since Formestane has anti-E properties, how should this and the Inhibit-E both be incorperated together during PCT? And how should each be tapered.
(Ive read to start the formestane around wk 3 at 100mgs-wk 1 or 2 or PCT then be tapered to 50mgs. Am I correct here?)

4.Lastly, should I run LeanFX at the bottle reccomendations or taper this as well thoughout PCT?

Thank You to everyone whos helped me up to this point. Ive leaned a LOT. I cant wait to be as knowlegeable as some of the guys on this site.
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This is from Whirlybird's EQ plex/ Hdrol log . You could use the same dosing scheme but just switch the hdrol for Pmag
THE CYCLE:
Week 1: H-Drol 50 mg; Eq-Plex 600 mg
Week 2: H-Drol 75 mg; Eq-Plex 600 mg
Week 3: H-Drol 75 mg; Eq-Plex 600 mg
Week 4: H-Drol 75 mg; Eq-Plex 800 mg
Week 5: H-Drol 75 mg; Eq-Plex 800 mg
Week 6: H-Drol 75 mg; Eq-Plex 800 mg; Formestane 100 mg
Week 7: EQ-Plex 800 mg; Formestane 100 mg
Week 8: Formestane 100 mg; Inhibit-E 50 mg
Week 9: Formestane 50 mg; Inhibit-E 50 mg
Week 10: Inhibit-E 50 mg
Week 11: Inhibit-E 25 mg


--- Do not taper the Cycle Assist ,run it at 8 caps a day thru the entire cycle , however in PCT u can use SNS Liver Assist XT

--- As for the PC T Assist, Most run it straight thru 6/6/6/6 ...however I've found it very effective at 9/9/6/6/4 or something like that

----For cortisol control i usually just run 2 caps hru out with Reduce XT
 
Thanks MW1.
However my cycle will be considerably shorter b/c I only have two bottles of either EQ plex and Pmag.

I was just trying to figure out how I could run it and use the most of what I already have.

Im thinking it will look some what like this:
CA(preloaded)8/8/8/8/8
EQ-Plex 600/600/600/800/800
P-Mag 50/75/75/100/100
Formestane 0/0/0/100/100/100/50
PCTa 8/6/6/6
Inhibit-E 50/50/50/25
LeanFX 3/3/3/2

Anyone care to add how I would dose Clomid into PCT, just in case?

Thanks again
 
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