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DreamWeaver said:
This is what I experienced on Product X .. Prime my aggression is very controllable but I definitely will not give and quarter for those who may try and push me, but I can handle it with confidence rather than any kind of agressive way. My confidence is very high on Prime and it seems to give be the ability to channel any aggression, it's a real feeling of control. I love that about Prime. :147:
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Absolutely, like I said I think a decent part of it was the state of constant frustration with my house. Yesterday was the first time I noticed it that is why it caught me off gaurd. Controlling it shouldn't be a problem at all. The Alpha Maleness is really a positive feeling and I don't want to give the impression it isn't. However it only takes a negative shift in YOUR attitude to make you act like and Alpha-azzhole. Key is attitude and controlling your attitude which really isn't hard. I just have to watch myself right now with too many things piling up on me. I am already dealing with stress and frustration so I have to keep a watchful eye. Being a family man my stacks not only have to be a positive experience for me but my family and friends around me. My demeanor should remain pretty level. I would say my attitude is more positive as a whole while on PRIME.

Side Note: I am also taking T-Rez and Divanil 95% as well as PowerFULL. I could be just really running on a higher level of test with a very high ratio of free testosterone. Was kind of the plan behind having them together.

I think my return to MMA training will help release any frustration based aggression, which is the catalyst for any negative aggression I am experiencing now. We will see next week.

Oh yes too add to that I can't wait to see how rolling on the stack goes. The AP keeping my muscles fed, and even going to be taking some DATP before training so I have high octane fuel just coursing through my veins when I am rolling talk about an unfair advantage once conditioning returns. :18:
 
it's not hard to deduce when your feeling an Alpha Male rage deep down inside....things are bound to get smashed "KLEEN SMASH!"
 
MrKleen73 said:
Being a family man my stacks not only have to be a positive experience for me but my family and friends around me.

I think my return to MMA training will help release any frustration based aggression, which is the catalyst for any negative aggression I am experiencing now. We will see next week.

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Kleen I fully agree with the family part. I have 7 (yes 7) kids and when I'm on supps its hard to keep the aggression "at the gym" if you know what I mean. Like you though, as long as I am aware that the tendency is there, I keep an eye out for it.
As far as the MMA goes..., opponent 1... your house!!!!!!!! throw it in a arm bar and when it taps... savor the moment and let it ride!
 
Army Guy said:
Kleen I fully agree with the family part. I have 7 (yes 7) kids and when I'm on supps its hard to keep the aggression "at the gym" if you know what I mean. Like you though, as long as I am aware that the tendency is there, I keep an eye out for it.
As far as the MMA goes..., opponent 1... your house!!!!!!!! throw it in a arm bar and when it taps... savor the moment and let it ride!
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AMEN to that I am going to win the fight with the house, it may go 5 rounds but there will be a tap out and I will end up victorious I have too. Unfortunately I am going to have to wait at least 1 more week before going back now. I hurt my back as you will read in my update.
 
Just another hurdle...

So there I stand with 120 on the bar, not too much just a nice weight for some wide grip upright rows. I pretty much effortlessly pull the weight up to chin level and lower in a controlled fashion reversing direction at the bottom when OUCH! something in my lower back gives out. Kind of a burning / searing pain. I reset my hips and complete the set without any further discomfort. Then I put the weight back down, as soon as I let go of the bar my back seized up in a knot. Felt like someone had stabbed me with a red hot knife in my lower back and left it there gradually cooking the tissue around it. I tried some stretching and other stuff and got the pain bareable.

Unfortunately the damage was done...

By two hours post workout I could barely walk. I sprained my lower back, the erectors are shot. Spent the last 2 days on the couch alternating between ice and heating pad. I can walk today thank God! I went ahead and lifted as scheduled this morning but did all machines. Made sure lower back was supported for every lift. I found I was feeling pretty strong but that was not the time to test it. For legs I did heavy leg extensions and curls today. I never got the sweat and feel of war that I do from my full body workouts where everything is done standing. Was kind of a sad day at the gym but I was able to lift and easily hit all the weights I put my hands on but once again with out the feeling that I had put myself through battle I just didn't feel satisfied.

I feel like am looking pretty rough today, like an out of shape x footbal player or something. With my erectors being FUBAR, I can't really keep my hips in the normal position or the pain gets a little crazy so I am standing a little swaybacked. Of course my abs are all out of control and are just hanging down and out. Pulling them back in causes too much discomfort so I am trying to be careful but damn it vanity wants me to hold them bad boys in and look like a jacked body builder. At least the muscle relaxers stopped all of the spasms that were making life a bitch. Unfortunately I ate too much this weekend. For some reason muscle relaxers / pain pills make me hungrier and since I wasn't the one getting up to cook I got what my kids brought me to eat. Pizza, spaghetti, & all kinds of not so goodies. Sure tasted good but man I am retaining water like nobodies business. I think some of it has to do with the muscle relaxers my face, as well as the rest of my body puffs up when I have to take them. Next 3 days will be low to moderate carb days to get the water situation under control.

On a good note a lady who has been out for 3 weeks came in today and told me I look a lot bigger! WOOHOO!!!!! I weighed in at a nice looking 196 this Saturday morning and that was a dry weight. Officially up 4 lbs. However if I had to guess I am pushing 200 right at the moment. Lots of water..... time to FLUSH! FLUSH! FLUSH! So I am increasing water to 2 gallons a day for the next few days. Hopefully I will be able to do my normal workout again by Saturday if I take good care of myself. So that is my goal. One more very cautious workout and then I will try my triumphant return. Wish me luck.
 
Well I know what your going through... you know what you have to do... I won't throw a bunch of cliche's at you. No sense in re-iterating what you already know.
 
i hate to hear about retarded injuries that occur out of nowhere. I mean seriously these injuries are like ninjas that sneak up on you at the most random times.

I hope you back with it by saturday, these breaks due to injury are the worst...till then rest hard and stay home! (haha get it?)
 
DreamWeaver said:
Well I know what your going through... you know what you have to do... I won't throw a bunch of cliche's at you. No sense in re-iterating what you already know.
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Awwww. c'mon cliche's can be the most fun. LOL Yeah I know, rest and get back in. Crap, I hate downtime. At least I know enough to get around it for now with machines.

GoHardOrGoHme said:
i hate to hear about retarded injuries that occur out of nowhere. I mean seriously these injuries are like ninjas that sneak up on you at the most random times.

I hope you back with it by saturday, these breaks due to injury are the worst...till then rest hard and stay home! (haha get it?)
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Yep, and this is the reason I have the Heal Fast in my sig too.
 
Good luck Kleen... too bad the kids can't lift for you as well. Wring out the water, watch some tube, heal, and lift hard again bro! Just wanted to give you some fun cliches :)
 
funny cliche's and quotes:

"when in doubt, whip it out"

"If her arms are bigger then yours, either A) your a p*ssy B) she has a d*ck C)she is fat D) all of the above"

"I was thinking about how people seem to read the Bible a whole lot more as they get older; then it dawned on me . . they're cramming for their final exam. "

" I have the last say so in my house.....and that is yes hunny whatever you want"

" There is no I in team....but there is a ME"

"If she slept with you on the first night...she has done this before"

"Everyone wants to f*ck a hooker, they just want them the first day on the job"
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
funny cliche's and quotes:

"when in doubt, whip it out"

"If her arms are bigger then yours, either A) your a p*ssy B) she has a d*ck C)she is fat D) all of the above"

"I was thinking about how people seem to read the Bible a whole lot more as they get older; then it dawned on me . . they're cramming for their final exam. "

" I have the last say so in my house.....and that is yes hunny whatever you want"

" There is no I in team....but there is a ME"

"If she slept with you on the first night...she has done this before"

"Everyone wants to f*ck a hooker, they just want them the first day on the job"
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LOL I have an one for you.
I wear the pants in the family... and sometimes when I have been good my wife even let's me pick them out.
 
Well I opted to stay in bed and not risk aggravating my back this morning. I figure cardio can wait another day or two. No use using my lower body too much when trying to recover. I hate not training I feel like I am cheating myself. Doesn't matter what you know is good for you it just feels wrong. Well anyway I think it is getting a little better. Work was not too bad yesterday and it was a little gripey when I got out of bed today but not a constant source of pain as it was the past few days. Tomorrow will be another machine day but I think I may be back to free weights by Saturday. I have also begun doing my chest presses one arm at a time so I don't overexpand the ribcage. Hoping this will allow more healing for my rib issue too.

Once again it is all a part of the life philosophy. Live Hard, Love Hard, Laugh Hard, and Heal Fast. If you live that way you are bound to get hurt on occasion, but a what a fantastic life in between. :D
 
She knows me too well...

I get home today, afternoon was busy and I can barely feel my back. I know the issue is there and can feel it if I pay attention but I have graduated to a normal paced walk, and my core is feeling more stable. I go to telling my wife my back is feeling better today and she immediately tells me. "You still need to take it easy working out tomorrow." She pauses then she says "but I am happy you are feeling better my love."

The order in which those two statements came out says volumes both about me and her in depth knowledge of who I am. The fact she knows me well enough to know that I had already started planning ways of pushing it a little more is pretty awesome. The fact she knew to nip it in the bud before I even tried to talk about it is even funnier. Aw well she takes good care of me. I need somebody to operate the breaks in this hot rod.

Good news though is that I am feeling noticeably better this afternoon. I took the stairs a few times today to increase circulation back there and I feel better instead of worse that is a good sign to me.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I get home today, afternoon was busy and I can barely feel my back. I know the issue is there and can feel it if I pay attention but I have graduated to a normal paced walk, and my core is feeling more stable. I go to telling my wife my back is feeling better today and she immediately tells me. "You still need to take it easy working out tomorrow." She pauses then she says "but I am happy you are feeling better my love."

The order in which those two statements came out says volumes both about me and her in depth knowledge of who I am. The fact she knows me well enough to know that I had already started planning ways of pushing it a little more is pretty awesome. The fact she knew to nip it in the bud before I even tried to talk about it is even funnier. Aw well she takes good care of me. I need somebody to operate the breaks in this hot rod.

Good news though is that I am feeling noticeably better this afternoon. I took the stairs a few times today to increase circulation back there and I feel better instead of worse that is a good sign to me.
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I know exactly what your saying. It shows that you have an excellent marriage and it all starts with a good woman who loves us enough to be in touch with who we are and love us for our faults just and much maybe even more than our qualities. What we have is fairly rare and thanks for reminding me how special it really is.
 
DreamWeaver said:
I know exactly what your saying. It shows that you have an excellent marriage and it all starts with a good woman who loves us enough to be in touch with who we are and love us for our faults just and much maybe even more than our qualities. What we have is fairly rare and thanks for reminding me how special it really is.
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AMEN DW. I make sure I let my wife know I adore her every single day. Not just that I love her but that I adore her. I know a lot of guys talk about being whooped or giving flowers to their women and how it is stupid. Most of these guys are single or aren't happy in their current relationships in my experience. Nothing a woman loves more than to be openly adored by a man who still commands respect. The inherent vulnerablilty of it just shows them the willingness to soften ourselves to show them love which makes us all the stronger in thier eyes. I guess I just have a little different idea of what makes a strong man and good husband than a lot of people do. SOunds like you and your wife are probably similiar and yes it is a rare and wonderful thing.

Okay off my soap box...
 
I had a great workout this morning. I did my numbers on all of the lifts I could do and then did estimated 10 rep max on the machines I had to use. I have to be honest my strength really seems to be picking up. 215 in close grip bench for 10 had me begging for more. I could have easily been at 225-235 for 10. I went up to 100 per side on hammer strength shoulder press and had a few more reps in me. Had an awesome pump. I only have 1 more workout in the 10 rep range. Next I go to 5 reps and will continue with 5 reps until I can no longer increase weight. I can't wait, a little nervous going into 5's on legs after my back fiasco so I may hold off a week and do 10s again since I wasn't able to really hit them hard this week at all. I am still of the mindset I may be able to do some type of press / pushing movement with my legs by Saturday instead of just extensions and seated hamstring curls.

I am definitely going to replace a cardio day with a GPP day I just feel I will be in all around better condition which is huge for me and I think little injuries like this might be avoided with all of the stability movements like slosh pipes and what not. Thanks to Boro for bringing them GPP workouts back to my attention and giving me some great reference material.

I am going to start my Martial Arts again Monday and I think the GPP will also benefit greatly there. I am very excited as you can tell tis is olnly the 37th time I have mentioned it as of late. I have actually been damn near salivating at the prospect and this injury put it off another week.

I went into the sauna with my shirt off and one of the guys who hadn't seen me in about a month or so was there and was all "Damn Bro... your swelling up. You have really been putting on some size you look jacked!" Little did he know I actually looked Jack3d!

By the way I will be increasing my PRIME doses soon however right now I am not sure I need to just yet. I still feel the results are kicking strong at this dose, but I am almost done with my second bottle and next I go into the new 800 mG caps. I feel strong, and positive as far as my mood which is pretty good since I am dealing with my back. I ran out of my TRez and am almost out of the Divanil and am going to leave them out for a bit and see where I go from there. If I am lucky I may get an oppurtunity to test out a new anabolic so I may add that in its place if I am that lucky. I am about to go order myself somemore DominATP, I didn't have it this workout and noticed it missing. :(
 
MrKleen73 said:
AMEN DW. I make sure I let my wife know I adore her every single day. Not just that I love her but that I adore her. I know a lot of guys talk about being whooped or giving flowers to their women and how it is stupid. Most of these guys are single or aren't happy in their current relationships in my experience. Nothing a woman loves more than to be openly adored by a man who still commands respect. The inherent vulnerablilty of it just shows them the willingness to soften ourselves to show them love which makes us all the stronger in thier eyes. I guess I just have a little different idea of what makes a strong man and good husband than a lot of people do. SOunds like you and your wife are probably similiar and yes it is a rare and wonderful thing.

Okay off my soap box...
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Right on the money!! I have a small talent for poetry and have written my wife quite a few over the years .. these are her most treasured possesions. Just goes to show you how important it is to a women that she knows you care.. treat her right and she will make you the happiest man alive.

Damn straight!! Real men have the courage to show how they feel!! Especially to someone who deserves it as much as our wives do.. real men treat they women right, the happier your wife the more secure you are as a man... then she will support your manhood making you stronger still. This is the way God designed us...
 
Alright DW...Kleen...you're making me painfully aware of my singleness...jk

But seriously both of you seem to deserve the women your with. By the way you are able to articulate your relationships and how both of you have a level of depth that allows for a meaningful relationship, its obvious to see that your wives probably have a mutual feeling.

Just like lifting, work, and life....if you dont put the work into the relationship your going to get crap out of it. Cheers to being REAL MEN!
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
Alright DW...Kleen...you're making me painfully aware of my singleness...jk
But seriously both of you seem to deserve the women your with. By the way you are able to articulate your relationships and how both of you have a level of depth that allows for a meaningful relationship, its obvious to see that your wives probably have a mutual feeling.

Just like lifting, work, and life....if you dont put the work into the relationship your going to get crap out of it. Cheers to being REAL MEN!
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HaHa, being single is loads of fun too. I compare being single to a visit to an amusement park; you get to go check out all the rides and when you are lucky you can ride the one you like the most over and over until you are tired of it.

But I wouldn't give up what I got for all the free rides in the world.
 
MrKleen73 said:
HaHa, being single is loads of fun too. I compare being single to a visit to an amusement park; you get to go check out all the rides and when you are lucky you can ride the one you like the most over and over until you are tired of it.

But I wouldn't give up what I got for all the free rides in the world.
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no luck here haha...just iron...and applications
 
MrKleen73 said:
AMEN DW. I make sure I let my wife know I adore her every single day. Not just that I love her but that I adore her. I know a lot of guys talk about being whooped or giving flowers to their women and how it is stupid. Most of these guys are single or aren't happy in their current relationships in my experience. Nothing a woman loves more than to be openly adored by a man who still commands respect. The inherent vulnerablilty of it just shows them the willingness to soften ourselves to show them love which makes us all the stronger in thier eyes. I guess I just have a little different idea of what makes a strong man and good husband than a lot of people do. SOunds like you and your wife are probably similiar and yes it is a rare and wonderful thing.

Okay off my soap box...
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Agreed with everything you said up there. 16 years of marriage, and every year better than the next.
 
Army Guy said:
Agreed with everything you said up there. 16 years of marriage, and every year better than the next.
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Thanks, I hope you get back state side soon and get to wrap your arms around that family of yours. I got a surprise visit from a buddy of mine who just got back from Iraq the other day. What an amazing feeling to welcome someone you love home. I am sure your family is proud of you and can't wait to see your big azz blocking out the sun as you walk through the front door. Until that great day...Stay Safe Brother! We appreciate your efforts back here at home.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Thanks, I hope you get back state side soon and get to wrap your arms around that family of yours. I got a surprise visit from a buddy of mine who just got back from Iraq the other day. What an amazing feeling to welcome someone you love home. I am sure your family is proud of you and can't wait to see your big azz blocking out the sun as you walk through the front door. Until that great day...Stay Safe Brother! We appreciate your efforts back here at home.
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thanks brother. that shadow will be much bigger than ever before!
 
196 3/4 LBS 7.2%

Yep up another 3/4 pound this week. If I had been able to hit my legs hard I think I could have made it to 197 there is always next week.

My back is still messed up and I am reluctantly accepting that it will be another week or two before I can squat, dead lift or leg press again. Good news is I was PLAYING with the 100s on DB Flat Bench doing the press one hold it at the top then press the other one up then lower the first while holding that one at the top. 100's were my max for 10 before. Then I did 100's again for incline and my last set was 13 reps. Major strengh increases popping out. Last time I hit 15 reps with 100's was on flat db bench when I was 218 some 20 lbs heavier than I am now. I am very happy with this.

Next week 5 rep range YEAH gonna push a little more weight!!!!!
 
I hope to push back up to the 100's again but my shoulder seems to be healing so slowly. I think the injury has uncovered a lot of problems on the left side of my body. I have been working around a lot of these injuries for too long and now it's come back to haunt me. I will definitely add dumbell work in my HST training as it seems I can push this a little more than barbell exercises.
 
DreamWeaver said:
I hope to push back up to the 100's again but my shoulder seems to be healing so slowly. I think the injury has uncovered a lot of problems on the left side of my body. I have been working around a lot of these injuries for too long and now it's come back to haunt me. I will definitely add dumbell work in my HST training as it seems I can push this a little more than barbell exercises.
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I have to be honest and say that I see more growth with dumbells. I always have. Most of my mass was built after I predominantly went to dumbells. EVERY lifting injury I have incurred has been doing barbell movements for power. I did go back to barbells for bench and some power moves just because the bar forced my shoulder to stretch through a forced range of motion increasing mobility after my surgery. I prefer my dumbbells to be honest and will not be surprised to hit 130's or 140's for 5 reps by the end of this. I honestly think I could hit 120 for 5 right now if I grabbed em. But alas there is a method to this madness and I must follw the progression. I am definitely growing from it thus far. Darn that stupid form mistake on uprights my legs could be tree trunksby the end of this if I could hit them hard.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I have to be honest and say that I see more growth with dumbells. I always have. Most of my mass was built after I predominantly went to dumbells. EVERY lifting injury I have incurred has been doing barbell movements for power. I did go back to barbells for bench and some power moves just because the bar forced my shoulder to stretch through a forced range of motion increasing mobility after my surgery. I prefer my dumbbells to be honest and will not be surprised to hit 130's or 140's for 5 reps by the end of this. I honestly think I could hit 120 for 5 right now if I grabbed em. But alas there is a method to this madness and I must follw the progression. I am definitely growing from it thus far. Darn that stupid form mistake on uprights my legs could be tree trunksby the end of this if I could hit them hard.
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Yah I've heard this may times, I guess I do a lot of both. I think I will go to dumbells mostly during my next stage of development.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Yah I've heard this may times, I guess I do a lot of both. I think I will go to dumbells mostly during my next stage of development.
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Just don't be a "Clanger" LOL you know the guys who have to clang the dumbbells together at the top like they are proving something? All that does is take the tension off of the muscle. Stop just a hair short of perfectly verticle to keep maximum tension but I imagine you know this cuz your old school too. Hopefully some young bucks will read it and understand they are losing benefit by lifting that way. Your shoulders are going to love you for going predominantly dumbbell for a little while DW. Then your chest will totally explode!!!!
 
MrKleen73 said:
Just don't be a "Clanger" LOL you know the guys who have to clang the dumbbells together at the top like they are proving something? All that does is take the tension off of the muscle. Stop just a hair short of perfectly verticle to keep maximum tension but I imagine you know this cuz your old school too. Hopefully some young bucks will read it and understand they are losing benefit by lifting that way. Your shoulders are going to love you for going predominantly dumbbell for a little while DW. Then your chest will totally explode!!!!
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There's quite a bit of db work in the chest bomb, some barbell also though.
 
DreamWeaver said:
There's quite a bit of db work in the chest bomb, some barbell also though.
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I thought about that once I posted that. Was it ever the primary, i dont have the book here to look at it. I think the end of this run I am going to make my own Delt Bomb workout. Need to put some size on my anterior delts so they match the traps.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I thought about that once I posted that. Was it ever the primary, i dont have the book here to look at it. I think the end of this run I am going to make my own Delt Bomb workout. Need to put some size on my anterior delts so they match the traps.
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I have to refrain from doing traps cuz they get so big and makes the shoulders look too narrow.
 
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I have to refrain from doing traps cuz they get so big and makes the shoulders look too narrow.
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Yeah the closest direct work my traps get is from the wide grip uprights which are more for the medial delt but it gets the trap ties in. Dead lifts make my traps explode. I can't give up on those though.
 
Getting strong as an Ox!

I just thought I would mention my workout this morning was bad ass! All preworkout supps taken except my DominATP cuz it JUST ARRIVED IN THE MAIL TODAY!!!!! I also got some geranium oil caps to try with it sometimes when my Jack3d is not available. Thinking ahead since Jack3d sells out on occasion. This was fasted training so the strength increases are not from having carbs prior to the workout.

I decided that as easy as the 100's were for my 10's I could not allow a zigzag back down due to increased strength according to my chart I was supposed to go back down to 95 and well that would have been retarded...

I started off my Flat Db bench with 110 pounders for 5 reps Now I know there are a lot of people who lift heavier but this was some serious weight in my eyes. I haven't attempted that in about a year and I don't even remember if I hit 5 reps then. This time I found myself pumping the 5 out like a piston. The first set of these I never even began to strain at all. On my second work set I finally felt like I had to put a little bit of effort into the 5th rep but could have more than likely pushed out 10. I KNOW I will hit my 120 for 5 without much more of an issue and 130's are inwith my grasp. If i do get to the 130's even for 1 rep it is a new PR. I can't wait to get back in the gym and prove to myself I can do it.

I measured my arms yesterday for the hell of it and they are up almost a half inch. My chest is way more full than when I started and the triceps well they are really looking good. I think I even saw a striation on the 3rd head throwing the horse shoes at the gym this morning.

Legs I still can not do pressing motions because of the back issue but was doing leg extensions for 10 reps with 260 with a second pause at the top and that was nice. Maybe I can build the tear drops up they have great seperation but more size around the knee would be great! I also did some bar only good mornings trying a little therapuetic lifting for the erectors. My calves are growing and I have to do them one leg at a time now in order to get enough weight on them for a 5 rep set. Funny how people look at me with 8 plates on the seated donkey calf machine doing 1 leg at a time. :smileeek:

I have not felt this strong in years and I was 218 or so when that was the case. I think some water came off of me or something recently or just the new muscle is tightening some things up. We will see what the scal says on Saturday. So far this stack is performing great. I feel like an animal. I am gaining muscle and strength without gaining fat. I was hoping for 200 by Christmas but Christmas may come early this year.

One of these days I will manscape a little and take a few more pics for comparison maybe this weekend. I am basically same bodyfat so I wonder if I look much different in pics.
 
good dumbell work, impressive lifts

Depending on how the 120's go, the 130's may be in your grasp sooner then you think.

Are you trying to increase strength or is it just a nice little side effect of the lean bulk?
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
good dumbell work, impressive lifts

Depending on how the 120's go, the 130's may be in your grasp sooner then you think.

Are you trying to increase strength or is it just a nice little side effect of the lean bulk?
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It is a nice little side effect of the lean bulk. The PRIME is so kicked in right now I feel like an animal. Further back in here I posted what my weight progression was supposed to be with the HST program. However I am getting way stronger on some lifts. Some of them I knew maxes for like DB Bench and what not and some were projected maxes that already included a 5-10 pound increase over my estimated max for the rep range because I knew the stack would make me gain strength quickly. I am surpassing a lot of these. Some if them I think I am spot on for my progress on a few things. The bench is one that I knew my max on and I used it and I have thus far blown them out of the water. I am in the 5 rep range now and after the first 2 weeks of this I just keep going up until I plateau so strengh gain is inevitable but I am really going for the LBM gain now. But I am a lifter at heart so heavy weight makes me feel so damn good!!!!!
 
great work bro. Wish we had DB that high. We got 100's, but I guess for the desert that is the best we can get. Could the extra water weight coming off be due to the MMA??? You got me drooling over this stack. Come the new year I will repeat what you have done here almost exactly. I'll be teaching ROTC then at some big college. Hopefully the strength coaches for the football team will let me use their gym. That would be AWESOME!!!! :147:
 
Can you do single leg press... I am doing all my leg work one leg at a time to give my back and knees a break and it's very effective. The range of motion you get from single leg is enourmous and if your using good form you don't need much weight to get an awsome workout.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Can you do single leg press... I am doing all my leg work one leg at a time to give my back and knees a break and it's very effective. The range of motion you get from single leg is enourmous and if your using good form you don't need much weight to get an awsome workout.
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DW are you doing this on the LP machine or on a sled? I am having trouble really growing my legs and getting definition on the quads and may incorporate this if that is one of the benefits.
 
oufinny said:
DW are you doing this on the LP machine or on a sled? I am having trouble really growing my legs and getting definition on the quads and may incorporate this if that is one of the benefits.
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On the leg press machine.. should produce some results...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Can you do single leg press... I am doing all my leg work one leg at a time to give my back and knees a break and it's very effective. The range of motion you get from single leg is enourmous and if your using good form you don't need much weight to get an awsome workout.
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I haven't tried. Sometimes just standing hurts it so I haven't pushed the envelope with the leg work. Today I finally did a little cardio, first time since I hurt it. I did it on the recumbant bike at a level 6 out of 20 and it felt fine. I actually feel a little better so far today so maybe the extra circulation and repeated rocking of the hips loosened it up a little. I think maybe I might try to add that in on Saturday or maybe my Tuesday workout. I have always been a fan of single leg work. I tried single leg leg extensions since it hurt and that was not a good idea. It torqued the back to much stabilizing the torso. I pulled it worse than I thought but it is definitely getting better.

Keep Your Fingers crossed!!!!
 
sounds great...dont push it too hard sounds like ur making great progress!
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
sounds great...dont push it too hard sounds like ur making great progress!
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Luckily my wife lifts with me and keeps me from machizmo self sabotage. Do you know how bad it sucked to walk away as she loaded the bar for deadlifts and I had to do leg extensions... AAAAGHHHH!!!!! But she is there to remind me if you push now you wont be able to again for weeks. Just wait for a little longer. She saves me from my own machizmo.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Luckily my wife lifts with me and keeps me from machizmo self sabotage. Do you know how bad it sucked to walk away as she loaded the bar for deadlifts and I had to do leg extensions... AAAAGHHHH!!!!! But she is there to remind me if you push now you wont be able to again for weeks. Just wait for a little longer. She saves me from my own machizmo.
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You have the perfect wife...few men can say what you just did

Ha till I find a woman like that i have to rely on my dad pulling rank on me when we lift together. Heaven knows i could have used it when i was lifting alone in college
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
You have the perfect wife...few men can say what you just did

Ha till I find a woman like that i have to rely on my dad pulling rank on me when we lift together. Heaven knows i could have used it when i was lifting alone in college
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Thanks Brother! I agree, and she is absolutely gorgeous... Her only fault as far as I can tell is poor taste in men. Loving an ODB like me. ;)
 
Feeling Great

Yesterdays workout was great. Highlights below.

DB Dec Bench 110x5, 110x7 could have gotten more but failure is not the goal decided to limit myself to 7 reps on second sets to stick with program progression. The 120s are gonna be a little challenging but we dont have 115s once you get to 100 they go in 10 lb incriments at my gym. But they go to 150 which is nice.
DB Incline Bench 110x7 just added a few reps to see where I was on it.
Hammer Shoulder Press 125 per side ended up doing 10 it was WAY too light. Would normally do push press but couldn't because of back.
Close grip bench 225x5, 225x7 and i wasn't done yet but still I and trying to follow the progression and didn't want to over do it and jump ahead of the curve.
Preacher Curls 115 x5 115 x 7 Was supposed to be standing barbell curls but too much weight to handle in front of me with the lower back. I still had another rep or so in me but I was limiting to 7 reps.

I look leaner, I definitely dropped some water weight or something, not getting on scale until Saturday. I did miss 2 meals this week but I tried to make up some of the calories at the others with extra almonds. Not sure if that is the reason or if it is water dropping.

This morning I decided it was time to try my walk on the treadmill on an incline setting. When I started was at incline level 10. My back felt a little tight but loosened up. I did just climb out of bed so that is to be expected. I have a no spring mattress with a 6 inch pillow top and it is so soft it doesn't offer any support for my bakc but man it is comfy!!!! I digress... I ended it with my last 10 minutes on incline level 20 walking at 3 miles per hour. I have noticed a difference in the level of my back pain the last 2 days since I got my SuperCissusRx back in. I have to say I love me some SSRx! Just a little magic in a bottle.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Luckily my wife lifts with me and keeps me from machizmo self sabotage. Do you know how bad it sucked to walk away as she loaded the bar for deadlifts and I had to do leg extensions... AAAAGHHHH!!!!! But she is there to remind me if you push now you wont be able to again for weeks. Just wait for a little longer. She saves me from my own machizmo.
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Man I wonder if I would have blown up my shoulder if I had my guardian angel watching over me... I forget about caution when things start going well and I start to get strong again. I know better but that doesn't stop me....
 
Kleen those numbers are impressive, not gonna lie it sounds like ur pushing the weight like its nobodies business.

By the sound of your sets you can probably hit the 120's in both decline and incline....which is pretty sick.

Ha i wish i had 150's. My gym here at home me and my dad have only collected up to the 120's and i can only hit those at the end of a routine so i can feel the burn. Most I've done on bench is the 140's...but that was a while ago...im thinking i can maybe squeeze out 145-150 now when my elbow and shoulders are feeling good.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Man I wonder if I would have blown up my shoulder if I had my guardian angel watching over me... I forget about caution when things start going well and I start to get strong again. I know better but that doesn't stop me....
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Oh Man you aint kidding!!! Funny thing is she don't wanna listen to me tell her to slow it down when need be. She does but very reluctantly. HAHA. Easy to tell others to lay off a little but not easy to do it yourself.
 
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