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good cycle to help reduce body fat while also increasing lean mass and strenght gains.

i have a good diet ive been training for about 5 years and i do mma about 3 times a week, but majority is weight lifting.
im 5'9
190lbs
about 20% bf just in the gut area

i have done cycles of Trenadrol, M-Drol and H-Drol. all with some solid gains

i was looking into a epi/ propadrol cycle it look good with low side effects.

also not looking for any wet gains.

so please can any one help me out
 
vika808 said:
good cycle to help reduce body fat while also increasing lean mass and strenght gains.
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Actually, I would advise you to go on an Activate (or NP Divanex)/transdermal formestane cycle for 8 weeks. It will help you to lean out and it will definitely preserve and even help to build lean muscle. Also, you won't have to worry about libido, liver, or doing PCT. Add some EC to this and you'll drop fat quickly and most likely gain some strength... and if you add in a keto diet, you'll look like a different person in two months.

My $0.02
 
Def diet... Keto would be a good idea, no aas invest in a solid fat burner and maybe a cort blocker. Then cardio and heavy lifting.
 
I agree at 20% bodyfat i wouldn't use a cycle to cut fat, keto diet with a lot more cardio, lift heavy to keep strength up... follow what they said ^^
 
for sure. i wouldnt worry too much about LBM. Id get more into cutting up with a havoc or epi cycle.
 
Diet and cardio are 2 of your biggest friends when cutting. At 20% bf no cycle will make you "ripped". Best to lower it around 10% then cycle for solid gains.
 
vika808 said:
i have a good diet ive been training for about 5 years and i do mma about 3 times a week, but majority is weight lifting.
im 5'9
190lbs
about 20% bf just in the gut area
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doing mma 3x per week and lifting for 5 years, and 20% body fat is all you can manage? your diet is severely lacking IMO. there's no other variable when you're doing that kind of intensity.

most people doing mma 3x per week can't gain weight, and you can't loose it...
 
well i eat senisble and i dont take mma seriously i do it to help train my son. and with lifting on and off for 5 years. as of right now i wanna gain some lean mass and aint really trying to cut, my mistake on my frist post, i apperciate all the feed back guys keep it comin guys,

also what do you guys think about the epi/propadrol cycle or is there something better than propadrol?
 
mdrol can work very well on a cut, but you've got to limit carbs, which will end up with you being very lethargic.

propadrol looks great, though the feedback on it is almost nothing. in fact, i can only find one thread on a log, and the poster is no longer active on AM.

i think epi or hdrol would work good for you, or the other tren compounds (not familiar with trenadrol other than its a bit unique - i've taken the other version).
 
lethargy from mdrol can blow at times. stims always seem to help with me though....from experiments, carbs low or high had no impact on energy levels
 
suncloud said:
mdrol can work very well on a cut, but you've got to limit carbs, which will end up with you being very lethargic.

propadrol looks great, though the feedback on it is almost nothing. in fact, i can only find one thread on a log, and the poster is no longer active on AM.

i think epi or hdrol would work good for you, or the other tren compounds (not familiar with trenadrol other than its a bit unique - i've taken the other version).
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ya i hate feeling lethargic, so what type of tren have you took that i can buy online, also how would you run the epi/hdrol stack

and im still thinking about a good pct for that type of cycle. i have a hard time finding a good serm online
 
serms we can't help you with. i would cycle either something like:

hdrol 50/50/75/75/100
epi 20/30/30/30/40

or
hdrol 50/50/75/75/100
tren 90/90/90/90/90

i've had good success with AMS dienedrone (100mg daily), and ACL's tren (though ACL is now hard to find).

NOS - good info. i always heard that carbs dominated the lethargy, though no first hand experience - though in a month and a bit, that will change :)
 
im liking that hdrol/epi cycle. alot

is that andraulic state some sort of serm?

also who makes the best hdrol and epi?

I was looking at CEL hdrol and IBE Epi.
 
i just calculated how much bottles i have to buy and it would be 2 of each is there a way i can cycle all 4 bottles so i dont have any leftovers?
 
sure, run it till there's no caps left.

hdrol 50/50/75/75/75/75
epi 20/20/30/30/40/40

you should have 3 days worth of extra pills you can use, so a total of a 45 day cycle.

serms aren't over the counter. you'll have to find that from either a trusted source, or some online pharmacy. we can't guide you in this aspect however, since its a "controlled substance".


CEL and IBE definitely are the two companies i would buy that stack from.
 
vika808 said:
well i eat senisble and i dont take mma seriously i do it to help train my son. and with lifting on and off for 5 years. as of right now i wanna gain some lean mass and aint really trying to cut, my mistake on my frist post, i apperciate all the feed back guys keep it comin guys,

also what do you guys think about the epi/propadrol cycle or is there something better than propadrol?
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On your profile it has your age at 22. How old is your son?
 
suncloud said:
sure, run it till there's no caps left.

hdrol 50/50/75/75/75/75
epi 20/20/30/30/40/40

you should have 3 days worth of extra pills you can use, so a total of a 45 day cycle.

serms aren't over the counter. you'll have to find that from either a trusted source, or some online pharmacy. we can't guide you in this aspect however, since its a "controlled substance".


CEL and IBE definitely are the two companies i would buy that stack from.
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which epi is better ibe or rpn?
 
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