Best PH for strength gains

GymRat83

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Hey fellas, been around a little while, first post. I've taken SD (the original, years back), and I recently did a cycle of Halo-T 400, a combination of Halodrol-50 and X-tren. The SD was great minus the back pumps. I really liked the Halo-T during cutting, no sides, maintained strength.

I'm looking to do another cycle soon, want to make sure I get the most bang for my buck. From the research I've done, it looks like SD, PP, or Epi are best for strength and dry mass gains? I was also thinking of stacking whatever I take with X-tren since it's non-methylated and can enhance strength gains. Or should I go for the PP/Epi bridge?

A little background, I've been training for about 11 years, I'm 25, my strength goals are a 500+ squat, 600+ deadlift, and 300+ OH press by November (will be doable even without PHs). I'm an amateur strongman competitor, primarily interested in strength but I am currently trying to gain weight, looking to go up to 230 permanently from 200's, currently 206. Not looking to gain the weight too quickly, don't want my weight gain to outrun my strength gains, if that makes sense. Plan on taking a year to gain the weight. I will be deployed (military) when I'm on, so I don't care about losing libido, but I do hate back pumps, I'd really like to avoid those. Are PP and Epi as bad as SD for back pumps?

Thanks for any help guys, looking forward to being a member of the forum.
 
Id say jump start with SD 10/20/20 and kind of bridge with X-Tren or PP(if u dont mind getting it). For the X-Tren 0/60/90/90/90 and MAYBE another week of 90 depending on how u r doing.
U will def have to be drinking a lot of water and make sure u add calories to account for ur added weight so u can continue to gain.
As far as the back pumps pick up some taurine.
 
^^ What Tomahawk said, find a way to incorporate Superdrol into a tren cycle. That combo will elicit freak strength and leanness, it's about as good as it gets.
 
Thanks guys, I'm thinking a SD/Tren stack is the way to go. How's this look:

SD (CEL's M-Drol): 10/20/30/30mg
X-tren (from CEL): 0/0/60/60/90/120mg
Novedex XT (Gaspari): 0/0/0/0/120/180/240/240mg

Do you think that's too much? If I remember right back when I did SD I think I got up to 40mg, which probably explains the horrible back pumps, hopefully it won't be as bad this time. I like the Novedex for PCT, I have it starting as soon as I'm with SD but only halfway through the tren, is that a good idea?

Thanks again for the all the help, it's nice to actually learn about this stuff and how it works, rather than just reading labels.
 
GymRat83 said:
Thanks guys, I'm thinking a SD/Tren stack is the way to go. How's this look:

SD (CEL's M-Drol): 10/20/30/30mg
X-tren (from CEL): 0/0/60/60/90/120mg
Novedex XT (Gaspari): 0/0/0/0/120/180/240/240mg

Do you think that's too much? If I remember right back when I did SD I think I got up to 40mg, which probably explains the horrible back pumps, hopefully it won't be as bad this time. I like the Novedex for PCT, I have it starting as soon as I'm with SD but only halfway through the tren, is that a good idea?

Thanks again for the all the help, it's nice to actually learn about this stuff and how it works, rather than just reading labels.
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My pct was:

clomid: 50/50/25/25
nolva: 20/20/10/10
PCS: 4 a day

Like nos said dont even think about running it unless you want to lose all the gains you made while you were on.
 
I've used Novedex with great success in the past, I don't think I used any PCT when I first did this stuff and don't remember losing any gains, but maybe I'll get a SERM to be safe.
 
Novedex is gaspari's AI, it's not a PH. It was their OTC pct for everyone running halodrol cycles back in the day.
 
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