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Ugh, Another Mdrol/ P-plex Cycle to read about...

Maxwell600

Maxwell600

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Well, I have a few cycles under my belt and have decided to finally bridge two different compounds.
Cycle is:

Week 1: Mdrol @10mg
Week 2: Mdrol @20mg
Week 3: Mdrol @20mg/ Pplex @20mg
Week 4: P-plex @30
Week 5: P-plex @30
Week 6: P-plex @40

PCT
Torem: Day 1-5 = 120mg
Day 6-21 = 60mg
Day 22-28 = 30mg

PCT Assist
Inhibit E
Reduce XT

Of course all the support supplements will be included before and after cycle. You know what they are.
Opinions? And i have done a ****-ton of searching through these forums so don't say "use search." Thanks guys.
 
Looks pretty solid. Good luck. I plan on running this eventually after I throw back a few bottles of tren.
 
dont be afraid to go 20/30/30or40/40 with the P-plex. i was cautious with it at first too, but the sides are REALLY nothing for me atleast, and 30 and 40 work great
 
I am biased against Toremifene because of my experience with it. But I think your cycle looks good. Obviously a bulk so eat up bro, good luck.
 
Getting ready to start something similar but running phera throughout:

phera 20/20/20/30/30
sd 10/10-20/10-20/0/0
may go an extra wk with phera but playing by ear.

Good luck. Looking forward to see your results.

Are u planning on starting ur AI week 3 of pct with a taper or wk 1 with a ramp up then ramp down?
 
everybody is running this cycle now. it broke out like herpes. ill be running this n a couple weeks wtih an extensive log as well.
 
Week 1: P-plex 20mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc
Week 2: P-plex 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc
Week 3: P-plex 30mg, Havoc 20mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc
Week 4: P-plex 40mg, M-drol 10mg, Havoc 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc
Week 5: M-drol 20mg, Havoc 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc
Week 6: M-drol 20mg, Havoc 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc

As you can see, i have done quite a bit of editing. Bye bye liver.
 
Maxwell600 said:
Week 1: P-plex 20mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc
Week 2: P-plex 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc
Week 3: P-plex 30mg, Havoc 20mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc
Week 4: P-plex 40mg, M-drol 10mg, Havoc 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc
Week 5: M-drol 20mg, Havoc 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc
Week 6: M-drol 20mg, Havoc 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc

As you can see, i have done quite a bit of editing. Bye bye liver.
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Ya bye bye liver is right lol.

I would say keep the p-plex doses at 30 no 40 and no Havoc at all. Wait to use it for another cycle.
 
Week 1: P-plex 20mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc
Week 2: P-plex 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc
Week 3: P-plex 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc
Week 4: P-plex 40mg, M-drol 10mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc
Week 5: M-drol 20mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc
Week 6: M-drol 20mg, Winstrol (liquid) 1cc

keeping pplex at 40, took out havoc... i think it and winny would compete when it comes to anti aromatase properties. whatev, i have 6 bottles of havoc anyway.
 
Ya that is a lot better. U honestly didn't need all of that.
How about u try a pulse of Havoc sometime? That is what I plan on doing. U def have enough Havoc lol.
 
The Phera-Mdrol bridge doesn't need to be stacked with a third compound. What's the reasoning for the winstrol, "more is better?" With PP and SD strength will be skyrocketing, one of the main sides of winstrol is dry achy joints. The winstrol will contribute nothing important to strength and mass over that stack. Take it out.

And if you were absolutely dead-set on using it, at least inject.
 
Using it to help cut water and fat during cycle. I will still use it but I will be cautious and pay attention to how my body reacts to it. If I need to drop it, I will. I should have also said I would only be dosing EOD.
 
Tomahawk88 said:
Ya that is a lot better. U honestly didn't need all of that.
How about u try a pulse of Havoc sometime? That is what I plan on doing. U def have enough Havoc lol.
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The reason why I am doing this is because I won't be doing another cycle for a while and I want to get a big one in before go on a steroid hiatus. Everything will be perfect on this cycle.
 
i dunno how much fat winstrol is going to cut, some water weight yes but it's a bulk, if you're not doing a photoshoot at the end who cares, any water winstrol removed will come right back on.

Winstrol is an aesthetic drug, that's the problem with it.

If you are so set on taking it, 25mg ed would be better than 50mg eod.
 
Phera, SD, AND havoc? Bro trust me when I say that 2 methyls is enough.

The outline in your first post looks perfect!!
 
Winstrol is also a strength drug if you can handle your joints drying out to some degree. I have a friend who put on 20 lbs on a zambon eod for 8 weeks. People say it is a cutting drug because most who take it are, well, cutting. But you can gain weight quite well on it. Now as for this cycle, i am probably more liberal than the cookie cutter attitude on this board, but this cycle is rediculous. M-Drol, from the little real info i can find on it probably should not be available, and is one of the few things i think should not be on the market. On another note, you need to get bloodwork done after this cycle, i don't care what "cycle support" you take your HDL is most likely to be in single digits, you are going to need to concentrate on getting that back to normal post, because all the **** you take during is most likely not going to do much. I would not doubt if your HDL is like 7 after this cycle.

If you want to get into gear, which obviously you do, start doing real ****, it will be much better for you.
 
dude you will be more than happy with a mdrol/pplex run. last time i did mdrol i ran 10mg a day for four weeks and was just blasted by how good the gains were. you don't need more. do your cycle, take your supports, do a pct, then take time off from everything and you'll be fine. diet also plays a huge role in how your body comes back and sides effects you may have, eat clean.
 
Week 1: P-plex 20mg, Winstrol (liquid) 0.5cc
Week 2: P-plex 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 0.5cc
Week 3: P-plex 30mg, Havoc 20mg, Winstrol (liquid) 0.5cc
Week 4: P-plex 30mg, M-drol 10mg, Havoc 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 0.5cc
Week 5: M-drol 20mg, Havoc 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 0.5cc
Week 6: M-drol 20mg, Havoc 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 0.5cc

Despite negative feedback, I have decided to go through with this particular cycle. As you can see I reduced the winstrol to 0.5cc ED. I have also reduced the final week of pplex to 30 mg. I will log this cycle as accurately as possible. If sides become to harsh I will drop the havoc.
 
no offense but I have noticed alot of threads with individuals that say they have done multiple cycles yet they are out of shape.

Now there is this thread where you have clearly decided to do Winstrol for a cut. Your bodyfat, judging from your avatar is nowhere near low enough that you need anabolics to get to the next level.
 
Maxwell600 said:
Week 1: P-plex 20mg, Winstrol (liquid) 0.5cc
Week 2: P-plex 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 0.5cc
Week 3: P-plex 30mg, Havoc 20mg, Winstrol (liquid) 0.5cc
Week 4: P-plex 30mg, M-drol 10mg, Havoc 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 0.5cc
Week 5: M-drol 20mg, Havoc 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 0.5cc
Week 6: M-drol 20mg, Havoc 30mg, Winstrol (liquid) 0.5cc

Despite negative feedback, I have decided to go through with this particular cycle. As you can see I reduced the winstrol to 0.5cc ED. I have also reduced the final week of pplex to 30 mg. I will log this cycle as accurately as possible. If sides become to harsh I will drop the havoc.
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I'm not going to flame you outright, you know what you're getting into. Week 4 = 4 methyl oral steroids. DUDE... Do you think you're going to get 4x as cut? Ehh..... this is like two cycles stuck together in a way that makes no sense.

I hope your log goes well, get a LOT of joint support and fish oil... Stacking havoc with winstrol while on Mdrol just sounds like a recipe for serious joint issues
 
I GOTTA agree with Unreal on this 1. Think about it. Ur strength is going to be soaring and u will be taking 2 compounds that are going to dry ur joints out. I would make sure I had a spot because I would be afraid some joints would give out during a lift.
 
No reason for the havoc or winny IMO.


If anything i might add in eqplex (bold) alongside the cycle but even that isn't necessary. You're only going to put on so much weight, why stack 4 compounds? Not like you're gonna somehow gain 50 lbs because of the extra 2...
 
Ju1cedUp said:
dont be afraid to go 20/30/30or40/40 with the P-plex. i was cautious with it at first too, but the sides are REALLY nothing for me atleast, and 30 and 40 work great
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it gave me gyno/lactation after 4 days at 30...other than that nothing but people react differently to some of these stronger PH's
 
Maxwell600 said:
Dropping pplex. I don't want a wet compound anyway. I want to cut on this cycle.
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Phera is not a wet compound... A substance it gets broken down too might be... But it can not be converted to estrogen... Diet also has a big role in how a compound acts... First time I ran SD I gained 24lbs... Lots of glygogen retension and water but was eating a ton of cals, but does that make SD a wet compound? Ran it another time very different diet with very different results. I have seen similar logs with phera... Depending on diet results very.
 
Liftingstud said:
Phera is not a wet compound... A substance it gets broken down too might be... But it can not be converted to estrogen... Diet also has a big role in how a compound acts... First time I ran SD I gained 24lbs... Lots of glygogen retension and water but was eating a ton of cals, but does that make SD a wet compound? Ran it another time very different diet with very different results. I have seen similar logs with phera... Depending on diet results very.
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thankyou.....its so silly how people say mdrol is dry and pplex is wet lmfao your diet will either make it wet or dry.
 
Some steroids will be more wet or dry to SOME degree. I mean anything that aromatizes into estrogen will cause more bloat unless you're taking an anti-E. But the degree is so user dependent, some bloat more than others.

Highly androgenic compounds, or DHT based ones, tend to result in less subcutaneous water weight. Also estrogen is unusually low on the ones that don't aromatize, so just that may dry you out.

Overall I agree though, for me, bloating is diet dependent. I was taking 30mg of Phera in my picture, doesn't cause me to be any less ripped.
 
Dropping the Winstrol...

Final cycle decision:

Week 1 P-plex 20, M-drol 10, Formestane 100mg x 2
Week 2 P-plex 30, M-drol 20, Formestane 100mg x 2
Week 3 P-plex 30, M-drol 20, Havoc 30, Formestane 50mg x 2
Week 4 P-plex 30/40, Havoc 40 Formestane 50mg x 2
Week 5 Havoc 40, Formestane 50mg x 1
Week 6 Havoc 40/50

PCT
Toremifene: Day 1-5 120mg, day 6-21 60mg, day 22-28 30mg
Formestane:
Week 1: 200 mg per day; 100 mg (4 squirts) twice per day
Week 2: 200 mg per day; 100 mg (4 squirts) twice per day
Week 3: 100 mg per day; 50 mg (2 squirts) twice per day
Week 4: 100 mg per day; 50 mg (2 squirts) twice per day
PCT Assist
Inhibit E
Reduce XT
 
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