Superdrol???

liftingAddict

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So i've read about great results in strength and muscle gains from people using superdrol, I've only cycled a few PH's before and haven't been to happy, what would you recommend, and what dosage because i've heard of side effects when using to higher dosages of superdrol.
I weighed 171.2 lbs at the gym today i'm on a bulk diet and my goal is around 195 lbs.

Thanks for all who take time to reply
 
I just bought a bottle of cel Mdrol (superdrol clone). I need to figure out how Im gonna run it as well. From everything Ive read/researched, its best to run a 3-4 week cycle at like 10/20/30mgs

You NEED a proper PCT for this compound though. Itll shut you down bad. I'll prob shoot to pick up some nolva and obviously cycle the mdrol w/ all the proper support supps.

Im right around your size too bro. id say 10/20/30. Diet and Sleep right too.
 
thanks man, i've heard of the Mdrol as well, what do you think of novadex xt as a PCT, my knowledge of PH cycles and PH post cycles is basic, would you recommend the nolva over the novadex?
 
novadex isn't a SERM. Make sure you get the Nolvadex, which is a SERM. 20/20/20/20, starting the day you stop taking the Mdrol.
 
nsmoney1 said:
I just bought a bottle of cel Mdrol (superdrol clone). I need to figure out how Im gonna run it as well. From everything Ive read/researched, its best to run a 3-4 week cycle at like 10/20/30mgs

You NEED a proper PCT for this compound though. Itll shut you down bad. I'll prob shoot to pick up some nolva and obviously cycle the mdrol w/ all the proper support supps.

Im right around your size too bro. id say 10/20/30. Diet and Sleep right too.
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you probably will not need to go above 20 for SD. as a matter of fact for a first timer, with SD and new to PH/PS, you could really get away with 10 for 3 weeks. and yes, a SERM is necessary with SD
 
liftingAddict said:
So i've read about great results in strength and muscle gains from people using superdrol, I've only cycled a few PH's before and haven't been to happy, what would you recommend, and what dosage because i've heard of side effects when using to higher dosages of superdrol.
I weighed 171.2 lbs at the gym today i'm on a bulk diet and my goal is around 195 lbs.

Thanks for all who take time to reply
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Hey liftingaddict,

Great choice on the superdrol! It's a wonderful compound that I very much enjoyed. My diet was less than perfect, and due to injury, I missed out on the gym A LOT more than normal. Even then, I packed on 9 to 10 pounds of muscle and kept every bit of it to this day.

As far as picking a brand, I would suggest mdrol by CEL. I have a bottle of it sitting with me right now ;-). It's cheap (less than 30 bucks for 90 caps) and highly effective.

Dosing is pretty simple. Follow this: 10/20/20 --- 10mg your first week, 20mg your second and third week. If you're still gaining at the end of your third week, you can continue to run the fourth week at either 20mg or 30mg, depending on how your body responds. Because you're less than 200lbs like me, I'd suggest 10/20/20 to decrease the sides. Also, this will allow you to save around half your bottle for a later cycle if you want.

PCT is needed because mdrol (and any other SD clone) is particularly harsh. You can find nolva online from places that label it as a research chemical. Other than that, I can't reveal sources (sorry!).

NOVADEX by Gaspari is NOT proper PCT! It is an OVER THE COUNTER test booster which is not sufficient for an mdrol cycle by itself. If you're going to run a serious PH, you need to run the real PCT, which means nolva at 20/20/20/20.

I'm sure you'll have a blast with this cycle. Remember to eat like a freaking horse! Your body is going to need a lot of calories in order for you to get bigger. Cheers bud! :afro:
 
for pct you need an SERM, an AI and a cycle support. im getting ready to run a bulk cycle of SD this fall so im getting all my stuff in check. run it 10/20/20 or 10/20/30mg/d.

take one SD pill 1 hr pre workout for the first week
week 2: take 1 SD pill one hour pre w/o and one post workout
Week 3: 2 pre w/o 1 post w/o.

as for pct:
nolvadex at 20/20/20/20
Formex for 4 weeks
and CEL cycle support. this will let you hold onto your gains.
 
TravisG said:
take one SD pill 1 hr pre workout for the first week
week 2: take 1 SD pill one hour pre w/o and one post workout
Week 3: 2 pre w/o 1 post w/o.
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Who the heck told you to do that? i hour before ok, i can see that but another dose right after? why?
 
post workout your body is in a low glycemic, atrophy-catabolic state. the practice of putting your ph in post workout not only gets better absorption but also will take you out of that anabolic state putting you back into a muscle building hypertrophy state.
 
lennoxchi said:
Who the heck told you to do that? i hour before ok, i can see that but another dose right after? why?
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I did.
Post WO doesn't necessarily mean immediately post workout. But I am also making the assumption that the workouts are in the AM... For afternoon or evening workouts I would change the dosing. I like to spike blood levels high so that they are lowest by night, to minimize suppression.
 
UnrealMachine said:
I did.
Post WO doesn't necessarily mean immediately post workout. But I am also making the assumption that the workouts are in the AM... For afternoon or evening workouts I would change the dosing. I like to spike blood levels high so that they are lowest by night, to minimize suppression.
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ok, whew, that makes sense. i do not know when he is working out but that makes sense. i thought you might have been free-baseing again
 
I don't remember when he's lifting. I tend to assume that people lift in the morning because that's what I've always done and I just can't imagine lifting in the evening

If i were to lift at like 5PM and i were taking 2 caps of SD i would do it all way differently... I'd have 1 cap in the AM and one around 3PM... I would like to make it closer to the workout but I really try to make my doses as early in the day as possible so that the concentration is as low as possible by the time u go to sleep
 
UnrealMachine said:
I don't remember when he's lifting. I tend to assume that people lift in the morning because that's what I've always done and I just can't imagine lifting in the evening

If i were to lift at like 5PM and i were taking 2 caps of SD i would do it all way differently... I'd have 1 cap in the AM and one around 3PM... I would like to make it closer to the workout but I really try to make my doses as early in the day as possible so that the concentration is as low as possible by the time u go to sleep
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me too......good advise
 
lennoxchi said:
you probably will not need to go above 20 for SD. as a matter of fact for a first timer, with SD and new to PH/PS, you could really get away with 10 for 3 weeks. and yes, a SERM is necessary with SD
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if it's 10/10/10 do you think your going to need a SERM?
 
I dont mean take it immeadiatly after youre done working out. I dont know what that would do but I wouldnt suggest it. Just take it after you are done lifting for the day to keep your body out of a catabolic state.
 
When I ran SD for the first time, I did 10/10/20 and worked just fine for me. 8lb gain, no gyno, felt great. For me, I had no reason to go any higher. My goal is to use the least amount of a supplement to get the gains I want. I don't want the negatives to match or exceed the positives, if you catch my drift. Could I have ran 30mg? SURE! But I was making gains on 10 and 20 which I was happy with. My PCT was just a combo of nolva/clomid.

Unreal, thanks for adding that. I lift mainly at night as I work until 7am, so morning lifting is out of it for me.

This next time I may want to add some Prostanozol to the equation. I have multiple bottles of SD (original) and Prostanozol just lying around.
 
TravisG said:
I dont mean take it immeadiatly after youre done working out. I dont know what that would do but I wouldnt suggest it. Just take it after you are done lifting for the day to keep your body out of a catabolic state.
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your body is always in a catabolic and anabolic state, always. one is just higher than the other. Food would be the best thing to determine what state your going to stay in. I'm not saying your timing suggestion is wrong, but SD's half life is like 6 to 10 hours if i remember correctly, so spacing the doses out that way would make more sense than around a workout time. if your going to take it pre workout, and this would make sense than another dose 6 hours later would be the most beneficial.
 
Never heard of running a serm the same dosages for all 4 weeks.

I've ran my share of ph's successfully.
I always taper down every week.
 
explain to me how your body is always in a catabolic/anabolic state.

how can your body be gaining muscle 24/7 (anabolic) while burning or eating it 24/7 (catabolic)??

induldge me.
 
Catabolic:The metabolic breakdown of complex molecules into simpler ones, often resulting in a release of energy.
*or breaking down muscle ect. ect. this due to a negative energy balance such as burning more calories than consumed.

Anabolic:Favorable state in the body created by a combination of good training, nutrition and rest that leads to increased lean muscle mass and fat loss.
*buliding muscle do to the state of training within 1-3 hours post training. also, due to a positive balance of calories.

all im saying is that your body is in an anabolic state after lifting if done properly with nutrition. that and while sleeping due to recovery. also in order to gain weight and muscle you need to be a positive enrgy balance (consume more calories than you burn)

in a catabolic state, your body is eating muscel tissue do to the negative energy balance in calories and it needs to dip into reserves for fuel. i dont personally believe you can be in two states at the same time. respectivly imo.
 
Hey guys thanks for all the help i just ordered cel's Mdrol and cel's cycle support and some Nolva for my PCT I'm excited to get it in and i will let yall know how the results are
 
You should pre-load it 2 weeks prior to starting your cycle,and run it through PCT.
May cost you a little more money,but I always err on the side of caution with methyls.
 
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