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Test E nausea/sickness?

WunHungLo

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Let me preface this by saying I'm aware that everything I have done thus far is not optimal - so don't flame me.

Anyway, I completed a 14 week 500mg test e cycle about 2 months ago. The last 4 weeks were actually just hdrol. I had a solid PCT lined up consisting of clomid, Advanced PCT, and Lean Xtreme. However, I got really, really sick during my PCT and was basically unable to eat or keep anything down(including all my PCT supps) for about a week. Needless to say this was catastrophic for my PCT and I lost almost all my gains.

I am well aware of the fact that I should wait at least as long as my last cycle before starting another one. But, I'm going on a big vacation to Ibiza Spain and I want to be in the best shape possible(I know that's vain but whatever). So I started a new cycle of 500mg Test E and 50mg Hdrol. To jumpstart the cycle I did 250mg of Sustanon and 250 Test E the first week. I know that's not the greatest jumpstart, but I'm in Afghanistan and pretty limited on resources. Anyway I started the cycle about 4 days ago and for the past few days I have felt nauseous and sort of sick. Is this cause of the test?? I didn't have this feeling during my last cycle. I also have a mild headache from time to time - bp maybe??

I'm 27 years old, 196lbs, 5 or 6% bodyfat, have been working out for about 7 years and aside from the last Test E cycle I've done a Superdrol cycle and a Havoc cycle.
 
WunHungLo said:
Let me preface this by saying I'm aware that everything I have done thus far is not optimal - so don't flame me.

Anyway, I completed a 14 week 500mg test e cycle about 2 months ago. The last 4 weeks were actually just hdrol. I had a solid PCT lined up consisting of clomid, Advanced PCT, and Lean Xtreme. However, I got really, really sick during my PCT and was basically unable to eat or keep anything down(including all my PCT supps) for about a week. Needless to say this was catastrophic for my PCT and I lost almost all my gains.

I am well aware of the fact that I should wait at least as long as my last cycle before starting another one. But, I'm going on a big vacation to Ibiza Spain and I want to be in the best shape possible(I know that's vain but whatever). So I started a new cycle of 500mg Test E and 50mg Hdrol. To jumpstart the cycle I did 250mg of Sustanon and 250 Test E the first week. I know that's not the greatest jumpstart, but I'm in Afghanistan and pretty limited on resources. Anyway I started the cycle about 4 days ago and for the past few days I have felt nauseous and sort of sick. Is this cause of the test?? I didn't have this feeling during my last cycle. I also have a mild headache from time to time - bp maybe??

I'm 27 years old, 196lbs, 5 or 6% bodyfat, have been working out for about 7 years and aside from the last Test E cycle I've done a Superdrol cycle and a Havoc cycle.
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dump the hdrol
 
You think that's the cause? Also, I was using the hdrol to keep the bloat at bay a bit and give me a more refined look. Is that not a good idea?
 
WunHungLo said:
You think that's the cause? Also, I was using the hdrol to keep the bloat at bay a bit and give me a more refined look. Is that not a good idea?
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not sure man, but thats where i would start..........

since test E is absorbed systematically and the hdrol passes through the gut........
 
I've heard of sus flu, but not test flu. Obviously sus is test, but, I thought somehow sus flu was a sus anomaly. What causes sus or test flu? How can you not get it, or get over it?
 
thats retarded....sorry...but come on....test flu is caused by introducing supraphysiological amounts of testosterone to your body its a shock and can cause flu like symptoms for a week or so....it normally occurs a few weeks after starting a cycle(with long esthers at least) and it will go away on its own after a few days to a week....
 
Not knowing what causes test flu is retarded....ok. I didn't know if it was an actual flu(as in your immune system is lowered so you're more susceptible), or if it was just used to describe how people feel. I don't think that's retarded you ****ing douche bag.
 
mooch2321 said:
thats retarded....sorry...but come on....test flu is caused by introducing supraphysiological amounts of testosterone to your body its a shock and can cause flu like symptoms for a week or so....it normally occurs a few weeks after starting a cycle(with long esthers at least) and it will go away on its own after a few days to a week....
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Chill out on the sarcasm a little huh, he asked a valid question which most people wouldnt know.
 
WunHungLo said:
Not knowing what causes test flu is retarded....ok. I didn't know if it was an actual flu(as in your immune system is lowered so you're more susceptible), or if it was just used to describe how people feel. I don't think that's retarded you ****ing douche bag.
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no...thinking that you could get a flu from sust becuse its a mix of esthers but not from a single esther test is retarded....it shows you put zero research into this and you just started sticking yourself like some jackass! Running back to back cycles because you got "sick" in your pct is retarded...jumping into a new cycle before your ready because you want to look good on vacation is retarded....this whole f#cking thing is retarded because you dont know what your doing....go do your f#cking homework retard!
 
mooch2321 said:
if your going to be running a cycle these are the things you should know! and in case you guys didnt see i actually answered his question!
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Should know yes, but I think most everyone on here started their AAS lives doing dumb **** without know what they were doing, I know I did. We're not all as smart as you after all.
 
I specifically mentioned I knew what I was doing wasn't ideal. I don't care, and guess what, that's my choice. I just wanted advice on feeling nauseous. So who the **** are you to decide what's retarded and whats not? Why even post? ****ing dumbass. Maybe you're trying to compensate for being short or something. *shrug*
 
I actually did a fair amount of research before doing my cycles. Did I not thoroughly research ****ing Test Flu or Sus flu? Probably not, but that didn't seem to be a major issue....it certainly wasn't an issue for my last cycle.
 
WunHungLo said:
I specifically mentioned I knew what I was doing wasn't ideal. I don't care, and guess what, that's my choice. I just wanted advice on feeling nauseous. So who the **** are you to decide what's retarded and whats not? Why even post? ****ing dumbass. Maybe you're trying to compensate for being short or something. *shrug*
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yeah i saw you specifically mention that you dont care about running stupid cycles....people like you piss me off...."im doing everything wrong and i dont care....but why am i getting these bad side effects" shows a lot of brains as$hole....and as for your attack on my stature im 25 lbs heavier than you are with a full six pack....i dont know how tall you are as you havent given us that information but it sounds like your trying to compensate for being a skinny B!TCH......
 
WunHungLo said:
I actually did a fair amount of research before doing my cycles. Did I not thoroughly research ****ing Test Flu or Sus flu? Probably not, but that didn't seem to be a major issue....it certainly wasn't an issue for my last cycle.
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your lack of knowledge and cycling practices show us that this is not true....
 
6'0, 196lbs and less bodyfat than you lil' fella!! Haha.

Now go find someone else to "piss you off" on an internet forum!
 
mooch2321 said:
your lack of knowledge and cycling practices show us that this is not true....
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I think I know enough to run a decent cycle. My cycling practices are my personal choice and have nothing to do with my knowledge or lack there of. It's amusing that you spend time writing and responding to something that pisses you off so much.
 
post some pics then big man....lots of sh!t talking and lying comin from a guy thats not backing it up....
 
Seriously?? You guys need to step away from the damn computer and chill out. This is high school crap.
 
Its not letting me post it cause the pic isn't 800 x 800. I changed the format to meet the size requirements but it still won't let me post it. Any suggestions?
 
I wanted to see the pics. Showdown! lol
 
if its dimensions, then the filesize is irrelevant.
Where you uploading to? I just use Invalid Link Removed
 
Man I can't even post the URL cause of my post count. You have to have 50 posts or more to be able to post links.... I'll try to get around it though....

http : // tinypic. com /r/ 28hq2y8/5
 
Another pic....I went back and edited out my face in the pics after considering things...

http : //tinypic. com /r/ 14vkay1/5
 
nice build. I think bodyfat is closer to 8% though... 5% is like, stage level
 
mooch2321 said:
no...thinking that you could get a flu from sust becuse its a mix of esthers but not from a single esther test is retarded....it shows you put zero research into this and you just started sticking yourself like some jackass! Running back to back cycles because you got "sick" in your pct is retarded...jumping into a new cycle before your ready because you want to look good on vacation is retarded....this whole f#cking thing is retarded because you dont know what your doing....go do your f#cking homework retard!
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Heres some info I found Mooch.... Maybe you should rethink the **** you spew out.

'Sustanon flu' or 'sus flu' is a fairly common occurrence when using testosterone. The problem has been given this name by some users who experience flu-like symptoms upon commencing a testosterone cycle. It's worth noting that this problem is primarily associated with short esterified testosterones such as Propionate (including Sustanon which include a Prop/Phenylprop ester), though is possible in reality from any testosterone ester. Although there are varying opinions which suggest a cause for this issue, the properties and effects of testosterone metabolite Etiocholanone make it appear particularly plausible. Etiocholanone is a pyrogen and elevations in circulatory levels are associated with feverish effects. Propionate as we know is a fast acting ester resulting in a rapid elevation in testosterone and thus etiocholanone levels. It's certainly possible that this rapid increase results in some users experiencing flu-like symptoms during the early stages of a cycle.
 
WunHungLo said:
Heres some info I found Mooch.... Maybe you should rethink the **** you spew out.

'Sustanon flu' or 'sus flu' is a fairly common occurrence when using testosterone. The problem has been given this name by some users who experience flu-like symptoms upon commencing a testosterone cycle. It's worth noting that this problem is primarily associated with short esterified testosterones such as Propionate (including Sustanon which include a Prop/Phenylprop ester), though is possible in reality from any testosterone ester. Although there are varying opinions which suggest a cause for this issue, the properties and effects of testosterone metabolite Etiocholanone make it appear particularly plausible. Etiocholanone is a pyrogen and elevations in circulatory levels are associated with feverish effects. Propionate as we know is a fast acting ester resulting in a rapid elevation in testosterone and thus etiocholanone levels. It's certainly possible that this rapid increase results in some users experiencing flu-like symptoms during the early stages of a cycle.
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hmm...you found a random quote about test flu from prop.... if you wanna call it sust flu you can, but its all the same thing....it also says in YOUR quote that it can be associated with any esther......you thought you had me huh....im old school bro....i know what im talking about....and you personally are experiencing test flu from a long esther....i dont understand why you are posting this.....oh well....

i stayed off this thread for a couple of days to recollect and calm down....give it up bro....
 
I'm just showing that I had a valid question. It's quite plausible, as that quote demonstrates, that sus flu could be just a sus anomaly - which is what I said to begin with. You of course called the notion retarded, yada, yada, yada. I'm not saying that quote is 100% for sure....I'm just saying I think I had a valid question, and, I HAVE done my research. There was no need for you to come huff and puff and try to show how bad ass and 'old school' you are.
 
its not plausible at all that test flu is a sus anamoly....your own quote even says its not a sus anomoly.....
 
Although there are varying opinions which suggest a cause for this issue, the properties and effects of testosterone metabolite Etiocholanone make it appear particularly plausible. Etiocholanone is a pyrogen and elevations in circulatory levels are associated with feverish effects. Propionate as we know is a fast acting ester resulting in a rapid elevation in testosterone and thus etiocholanone levels. It's certainly possible that this rapid increase results in some users experiencing flu-like symptoms during the early stages of a cycle.

I dunno, maybe I'm reading that wrong but that seems to suggest that it's much more probable in Sus as a result of the propionate. I'm not saying it's the definitive truth or that it's not possible to get it from Test-E, I'm just saying I had a valid question.

People come on here to look for answers to try and inform themselves. But, when ass-****s like you are just waiting to criticize anything they say it's kind of counter-productive to the learning process.
 
when you start a thread with....i know i not supposed to do this....but i dont care....it shows as$holes like me that your not really here to learn......and yes you are reading it wrong....its not commonly reffered to as sust flu....thats just what you googled....if that were the case wouldnt they call it prop flu becasue thats what they think is causing it? its commonly reffered to as test flu because its prevalent in users cycling ANY form of test.....i got it on my first cycle with enanthate.....i really dont feel like fighting with you...you found one quote that actually contradicts your point of view....big deal....on the other hand it is a big deal that your out their doing some research...i applaud the effort
 
Yeah we're not supposed to do steroids period....but we still do. You're not supposed to smoke, or do drugs, or speed, or jaywalk.....and people still do it. So who are you to pass judgment on me about what's done right or wrong.

I said it in my first post that what I was doing wasn't ideal, but neither is doing steroids period. That doesn't mean I'm not informed - I just chose to make that decision....kind of like how you chose to do steroids knowing full well the health risks associated with it.

But I agree, I'm tired of arguing over this. This thread was supposed to be about test flu or whatever the **** you wanna call it. Instead it turned into an argument.
 
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