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Lets Just Be Friends....

Zero V

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Who else hates this phrase.....:banghead:

The only good thing I had going. My life is a piece of $h!t at the moment....and she was the only thing that I could smile about. Now its like...really? What else man? I mean, short of getting shot I cant miss out any more.

Just when you think you found rock bottom. You find out rocks can kick you in the friggin nutz. Hard too!

:soapbox:
 
Step One: Gently remove your tampon from the vaginal cavity, and step away from the keyboard.

Step Two: Reflect on what it is about your personality that places you in the, "Friend Zone". I assure you: it was your fault, but you can work on this!

Step Three: Fix for next time.
 
Step One: Gently remove your tampon from the vaginal cavity, and step away from the keyboard.

Step Two: Reflect on what it is about your personality that places you in the, "Friend Zone". I assure you: it was your fault, but you can work on this!

Step Three: Fix for next time.

Actually she is a "super christian" and was getting too distracted from God and school. No one seen this coming, and everyone was hoping we would be together. She wants to focus on other things more and believes God wants her to be single. So I cant really argue...

This was the first time in 2 years I opened up to a girl and handed out my heart again. I think I am done doing that.

Sir I like my tampon where it is. Periods just beginning.
 
well man sorry to hear that and i cant actually relate to the line cuz its neva happened to me but ive dropped it a couple of times, but besides that man you really werent put in the friend zone **** if god told her that then thats it man you cant compete with god it suxs man i kno, so look at it that way u didnt do anything wrong she just has strong beliefs that no man can break through ya kno
 
you should try to convince her you are a god - like the 2nd coming.... thats worked for me in the past
 
Actually she is a "super christian" and was getting too distracted from God and school. No one seen this coming, and everyone was hoping we would be together. She wants to focus on other things more and believes God wants her to be single. So I cant really argue...

This was the first time in 2 years I opened up to a girl and handed out my heart again. I think I am done doing that.

Sir I like my tampon where it is. Periods just beginning.

No, believe me: it was your fault; the bolded portions cry that out, and you just cannot see it. If you continue to convince yourself a female was uninterested in you due to external factors, the "friend zone" relegation will be a common occurrence in your life. (I hope you come to realize what I am attempting to illustrate here.)

In my experience, many females do not wish to be coddled and prodded into a cutesy relationship that an entire peer group is pining for. I am going out on a wild limb and assuming you spoke to her often, made comments as to the future of your relationship with her [non-existent at that point], were entirely too sappy to her, generally pined after her, and; highly possibly, you decided to tell her that you "loved her" in an overly-dramatic and contrived e-mail, phone conversation or heart-to-heart.

The factors that led to your friend zone relegation, and will continue to do so lest you alter them, are obvious: your pining made you appear easily attainable and vulnerable, and such forward emotions made this girl feel pressured and therefore conjure the [...most ridiculous...] excuse as to why she wanted to be, "just friends".

In layman's terms: stop being such a big, wet, flapping vagina. I know from your previous posts you subscribe to some ridiculous, arcane and disingenuous style of male mannerisms hitherto discarded since the 18th-century and Lord Byron's death, but; real human attraction is dissimilar to a Byron, or Keats or Neruda poem.

In short, my friend - sack up, seriously. The outer skin of your labia is showing, and it is frightening the children.
 
No, believe me: it was your fault; the bolded portions cry that out, and you just cannot see it. If you continue to convince yourself a female was uninterested in you due to external factors, the "friend zone" relegation will be a common occurrence in your life. (I hope you come to realize what I am attempting to illustrate here.)

In my experience, many females do not wish to be coddled and prodded into a cutesy relationship that an entire peer group is pining for. I am going out on a wild limb and assuming you spoke to her often, made comments as to the future of your relationship with her [non-existent at that point], were entirely too sappy to her, generally pined after her, and; highly possibly, you decided to tell her that you "loved her" in an overly-dramatic and contrived e-mail, phone conversation or heart-to-heart.

The factors that led to your friend zone relegation, and will continue to do so lest you alter them, are obvious: your pining made you appear easily attainable and vulnerable, and such forward emotions made this girl feel pressured and therefore conjure the [...most ridiculous...] excuse as to why she wanted to be, "just friends".

In layman's terms: stop being such a big, wet, flapping vagina. I know from your previous posts you subscribe to some ridiculous, arcane and disingenuous style of male mannerisms hitherto discarded since the 18th-century and Lord Byron's death, but; real human attraction is dissimilar to a Byron, or Keats or Neruda poem.

In short, my friend - sack up, seriously. The outer skin of your labia is showing, and it is frightening the children.

Never said love because I wont say that at the moment, I talked to her a normal amount. Never over bearing, made sure everything was balanced. We hung out, but I never bugged her. I took the time to make sure I didnt do anything funky. I am thinking she probably just didnt feel as strongly. I know a few girls that wont date any guys at the moment because of God....she is friends with em. So I am thinking it has something to do with that. Then these girls end up 28 and single and no one wants to talk to them about a relationship anymore (We have a couple of em around like that)

I am Christian, but dang....

There is no weird formula leading up to it. It was random, not after a anything different. That is why it bugged me and I made a post. It was completely random. I never did anything stupidly mushy or whatnot.

Eh. I am better, going to the gym to lift. Just needed to vent, and forgot most people on here are pro-manly.
 
Never said love because I wont say that at the moment, I talked to her a normal amount. Never over bearing, made sure everything was balanced. We hung out, but I never bugged her. I took the time to make sure I didnt do anything funky. I am thinking she probably just didnt feel as strongly. I know a few girls that wont date any guys at the moment because of God....she is friends with em. So I am thinking it has something to do with that. Then these girls end up 28 and single and no one wants to talk to them about a relationship anymore (We have a couple of em around like that)

I am Christian, but dang....

There is no weird formula leading up to it. It was random, not after a anything different. That is why it bugged me and I made a post. It was completely random. I never did anything stupidly mushy or whatnot.

Eh. I am better, going to the gym to lift. Just needed to vent, and forgot most people on here are pro-manly.

Sigh.

In all honesty, it was most certainly, and without a doubt, you. I know this, because I used to say the ridiculous things you do about writing poetry, how to be "honourable" to women, and the true masculinity. (Granted, I was 15 and 16 then, but there is no time for change like the present.) I am not saying you did anything out of the ordinary, Zero; I am saying you probably act in a certain manner most of the time, and this can seem "too available" to most females.

This also most certainly has nothing to do with being, "pro-manly". Relating your emotional context to friends, peers and colleagues is an important part of developing your emotional and psychological being. I am merely telling you to quit complaining about something you can easily change.

I am trying to avert you from a ton of unnecessary heartache, but; you can only lead a horse to water....
 
Sigh.

In all honesty, it was most certainly, and without a doubt, you. I know this, because I used to say the ridiculous things you do about writing poetry, how to be "honourable" to women, and the true masculinity. (Granted, I was 15 and 16 then, but there is no time for change like the present.) I am not saying you did anything out of the ordinary, Zero; I am saying you probably act in a certain manner most of the time, and this can seem "too available" to most females.

This also most certainly has nothing to do with being, "pro-manly". Relating your emotional context to friends, peers and colleagues is an important part of developing your emotional and psychological being. I am merely telling you to quit complaining about something you can easily change.

I am trying to avert you from a ton of unnecessary heartache, but; you can only lead a horse to water....

I will take what I can from that mullet. Never hurts to rethink things and give it a look over. Been plenty of changing and adapting going on in every other aspect of my life might as well include this one.

Thanks for the input man. I try to listen, but one of my buddies knows I am on a 6 month learning curve when it comes to getting somethings lol. Though most of that was with spirituality.

At any rate....plenty of other fish in the sea.
 
Actually she is a "super christian" and was getting too distracted from God and school.

I know a few girls that wont date any guys at the moment because of God....she is friends with em. So I am thinking it has something to do with that. Then these girls end up 28 and single and no one wants to talk to them about a relationship anymore (We have a couple of em around like that)

I am Christian, but dang....
Actually their faith is quite admirable and commendable. I applaud them.

1 Corinthians 7:32-35

"An unmarried (uninvolved) man is concerned about the Lord's affairs—how he can please the Lord. But a married (involved) man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife (gf)—and his interests are divided. An unmarried (uninvolved) woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord's affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married (involved) woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband (bf). I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord."

(parenthesis inserted)
 
Actually their faith is quite admirable and commendable. I applaud them.

1 Corinthians 7:32-35

"An unmarried (uninvolved) man is concerned about the Lord's affairs—how he can please the Lord. But a married (involved) man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife (gf)—and his interests are divided. An unmarried (uninvolved) woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord's affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married (involved) woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband (bf). I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord."

(parenthesis inserted)

It is thats why I said I cant really argue with it man. Plus I really liked the idea of some one who is on the abstinence track.

This is the part where I trust my own faith and understand we each have someone out there.
 
No, believe me: it was your fault; the bolded portions cry that out, and you just cannot see it. If you continue to convince yourself a female was uninterested in you due to external factors, the "friend zone" relegation will be a common occurrence in your life. (I hope you come to realize what I am attempting to illustrate here.)

In my experience, many females do not wish to be coddled and prodded into a cutesy relationship that an entire peer group is pining for. I am going out on a wild limb and assuming you spoke to her often, made comments as to the future of your relationship with her [non-existent at that point], were entirely too sappy to her, generally pined after her, and; highly possibly, you decided to tell her that you "loved her" in an overly-dramatic and contrived e-mail, phone conversation or heart-to-heart.

The factors that led to your friend zone relegation, and will continue to do so lest you alter them, are obvious: your pining made you appear easily attainable and vulnerable, and such forward emotions made this girl feel pressured and therefore conjure the [...most ridiculous...] excuse as to why she wanted to be, "just friends".

In layman's terms: stop being such a big, wet, flapping vagina. I know from your previous posts you subscribe to some ridiculous, arcane and disingenuous style of male mannerisms hitherto discarded since the 18th-century and Lord Byron's death, but; real human attraction is dissimilar to a Byron, or Keats or Neruda poem.

In short, my friend - sack up, seriously. The outer skin of your labia is showing, and it is frightening the children.

Dr. Phil is that you?
Now we must call you Dr. Mulletsoldier.:rofl:

Point is .... say a few hail marys, wipe your @ss and move on bro.
There are WAY too many women out there to sit around thinking about loosing or not being with one. Learn from it, move on, dont make the same mistake twice,... problem solved.

Women: cant live with them,... cant kill em.
 
But what if you don't meet until you're REAL old...like 28...:jaw: :D

Then I will probably be breaking a few quite a few rules before then...2 years already is almost too much.....

Most of my buddies are trying to get me to just uh....enjoy myself for awhile, meet a few nice ladies, and live it up.

Meh, shrug it off, man.

Done and did. I just needed to vent for the first 10 minuts lol.

Dr. Phil is that you?
Now we must call you Dr. Mulletsoldier.:rofl:

Point is .... say a few hail marys, wipe your @ss and move on bro.
There are WAY too many women out there to sit around thinking about loosing or not being with one. Learn from it, move on, dont make the same mistake twice,... problem solved.

Women: cant live with them,... cant kill em.

Yep, moving on, going to relax, and take things from a different and more short term-road....

This all did help me to doing my 300lb SQUAT TODAY BABY!!!

200 x 10, 260 x10, 300 x 10 OORAH! I feel better, but it could just be my ego getting to me :type:

New goal will be to be squatting 400 during my *20 lbs in 60 days* log I will be starting in a weekish.

My lifting partner shat himself as I busted out those 300's :laugh2:
 
Give it a few days and this will be Zero...(move the slider to 1.13)

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...in all seriousness though mate, I'm gutted for you. You can't compete with the big G-man if that really is her reason for not being with you.

There's really only one constant in our (AM guys/girls) lives and that is our training.

Unlike the women that have crushed me in the past, the gym's always waiting for me with open arms :)
 
Unlike the women that have crushed me in the past, the gym's always waiting for me with open arms :)

I can't really comment on much else in this thread without going off into a rant of wtf's but this is so very true. Whenever girls in my life are acting crazy, the gym will always be there to calm things down and put things in perspective. Use whatever frustration they're putting you through as energy to help you throw some weight around!

And always remember... there are SO many women out there man... More than you could ever meet in a lifetime.
 
well there was ur first mistake...super christian...i am a christian as well but the people that faith rules their life pisses me off. its good to believe in something..but god dammit have some fun also.
 
well there was ur first mistake...super christian...i am a christian as well but the people that faith rules their life pisses me off. its good to believe in something..but god dammit have some fun also.

I have been applying this lately. Last few weeks I lightened up and spent some good times with my buddies....even though I am in a living hell of financial crap at the moment. Life is so much more simpler when you actually enjoy it some. lol
 
At your age, I would definitely enjoy the freedom that comes with not being in a committed relationship. You'll be amazed how much energy you will have to commit to other points of your life...
 
hang in there bro. As christians we are taught to have faith, if it is meant to be, she will be back. Don't stress yourself too much about it.
 
hang in there bro. As christians we are taught to have faith, if it is meant to be, she will be back. Don't stress yourself too much about it.

**** that...find a girl who is fun and likes to ****.

In response to that I havent touched a female intimately in 2 years lol.

OYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY the stress that one brings.


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In my opinion its better to wait and find someone thats just as interested in you. It is extremely wearing to be in a relationship where you are constantly trying to please someone. And it never works in the end, which after you invest feelings its much harder to deal with.

When you find someone who likes you for being you it will be worth the wait.
 
From Past XP i have learned that women will burn you every chance they get. I learned to show what i can and keep the rest inside, no point in opening an old wound to add salt to it. Those who wear their heart on their sleeves, are only showing a target.. etc etc...

Hit the gym, as you have. Use it, consume it, and shred some Iron. I know you got it in ya Zero
 
I can't really comment on much else in this thread without going off into a rant of wtf's but this is so very true. Whenever girls in my life are acting crazy, the gym will always be there to calm things down and put things in perspective. Use whatever frustration they're putting you through as energy to help you throw some weight around!

And always remember... there are SO many women out there man... More than you could ever meet in a lifetime.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Lifting + loud music = a happier me!
 
In my opinion its better to wait and find someone thats just as interested in you. It is extremely wearing to be in a relationship where you are constantly trying to please someone. And it never works in the end, which after you invest feelings its much harder to deal with.

When you find someone who likes you for being you it will be worth the wait.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Lifting + loud music = a happier me!

My last relationship was like that, then when it got rocky, she got clingy, so we stayed together, then she screwed me over lol.

I think I will spend some extra time lifting tomorrow. Put in a few apps for a new job, maybe God will bless me with a real source of income. I am trying to square off 500 bucks of which I dont have to do a Personal Training course and get certified. Then I can live my true love, the good pain! The kind of pain that I endorse. The pain of great gain! lol.

I guess the only reason this really bothered me so much, was I am at rock bottom and she was a wonderful friend and the relationship aspect of it let me sleep easy. She is still going to be a good friend though. Probably better now...well for her lol.

To each their own, and for me....2 hours of disturbed playing too loud to think lifting things beyond my abilities ^.^ Tis what the doctor ordered!
 
To each their own, and for me....2 hours of disturbed playing too loud to think lifting things beyond my abilities ^.^ Tis what the doctor ordered!

Exactly, i think the music sometimes does more than any supps i take haha. But probably not, maybe just enhances them more.
 
lol I know what you are all talking about. But it was just something simple on top of my current stress. Which I think today I really pulled off being crazy...i am just no answering my phone anymore, can anyone tell me a good state to move to with jobs where life can be restarted?
 
lol I know what you are all talking about. But it was just something simple on top of my current stress. Which I think today I really pulled off being crazy...i am just no answering my phone anymore, can anyone tell me a good state to move to with jobs where life can be restarted?

come to CT and we'll hang out all the time lol
 
come to CT and we'll hang out all the time lol

Are there jobs lol. I know I cant find one here in Ohio.

I seriously am contemplating taking one of my maxed out CC's getting a ticket to somewhere, or filling up my tank, and taking off. wherever I stop in a few days, set up camp, try to make a life.

lol. I could just join the army again. They definitely dont leave you bored.
 
Are there jobs lol. I know I cant find one here in Ohio.

I seriously am contemplating taking one of my maxed out CC's getting a ticket to somewhere, or filling up my tank, and taking off. wherever I stop in a few days, set up camp, try to make a life.

lol. I could just join the army again. They definitely dont leave you bored.

surprisingly there are jobs in this state lol
 
surprisingly there are jobs in this state lol

I will have to make it an option then lol. I liked TN but i dont think there are jobs, I loved KY but no jobs plus their inbreeding programs creep me out. Texas is nice, but not sure on its jobs. Missouri is too.....duno lol, could just be I hate it because of Ft. Leonardwood.
 
I know a few girls that wont date any guys at the moment because of God....
God is such a cock blocker. I seriously don't know why so many ppl put up with him. He causes natural disasters, wars, and a lot of pain. Then again, so do women. Guess we all like the good stuff they both do, so we accept the risks of the bad.

Anyways, back on point. Mullet is probably right, but for argument sake, I'll say that god is the reason why she doesn't want to date you. I also understand your need to vent. Truth is, you most likely lost your chance with her and won't be able to recover. When she decides to disobey god and date a guy, it won't be you. You probably deserve a better girl anyway.

IF you have any chance with her, remember 1 thing. Girls are NOT LOGICAL. I do not mean this in any derogatory way - I am saying girls think/talk primarily with their emotions and not with their logical mind. It's not that they don't "say" what they mean - it's more that men incorrectly listen to the "words" that come out of their mouth. That's how men talk, so that's how we listen. That's why we hear wrong.

Translation: do not attempt to change her mind. You must change her mood. Do not attempt to convince her logically about the whole god situation. Just have fun with her as a "friend". Make her want to be around you because you are so much fun for her. Of course, you also have other "friends" to spend that fun time with too. If her feelings develop into something beyond friends, she will wonder why she's getting jealous of you spending time with other female friends. Plus girls want what other girls have (your time). Do not give her all your time - leave her wanting. If her mood around you changes enough, she will change her own mind about the whole situation.

I feel for you. I used to be too emotional, caring, sensitive and generally "extra nice" to girls. Actually, I still am - it's tough to hide that at times. Despite the "words" you hear out of some girl's mouths, these are not attractive traits to a girl. They're attractive traits in their female friends.

Men typically act differently (less attractive) to the girls they are attracted to. I noticed a pattern in myself. I'd hang out with 2 girls. I'd have the hots for girl (A), and didn't care about the other girl (B).

Girl A never was attracted to me.
Girl B was usually attracted to me.

This pattern repeated itself all too often. "Wow, why is it the hot girls I like never want me, but their ugly friends do?"

Answer: It's not that girl B was ugly, it's that I acted differently with her. Or to be more precise - I acted DIFFERENTLY with girl A. I was just myself with girl B. Do not be the person that acts extra nice because you want something from a girl, just be you. That is what is meant when they say "just be yourself".

(Of course we know you want something from her, but don't let her know that). Her knowing you like her is comforting to her, and gives her a power advantage. Take away that power. (Would you act differently at a job interview if you KNEW ahead of time that the job was yours and the interview was a formality? What if you knew you had 3 job offers? All of a sudden, you are the one making the demands and setting the rules to best suit you, instead of comprising your ideals and taking whatever you can get).

What if you were the interviewer (aka the girl). One candidate was eager and obviously will take/do whatever you give him. The other one acts like he has a few other job offers as well and is looking for the best match for him.
Will you wonder "that guy must be good to have 3 other job offers. He proved his worth to other companies. Why doesn't anybody else want the needy guy? I'm not looking for a desperate 'yes man' to 'fix', I'm looking for someone who will make the company better."

Best of luck bro.
 
What Sunder just wrote above is an absolute gem, diamond, A+ post.
:thumbsup:

I see absolutely nothing up there that I don't agree with. I recommend Zero V and everyone else trying to figure out dating/relationships/women should read it, reread it, and then read it again if you didn't get all that the first two times.

Anyone confused by any of that, feel free to ask questions...
 
Are there jobs lol. I know I cant find one here in Ohio.

I seriously am contemplating taking one of my maxed out CC's getting a ticket to somewhere, or filling up my tank, and taking off. wherever I stop in a few days, set up camp, try to make a life.

lol. I could just join the army again. They definitely dont leave you bored.

Man, you are young to be so stressed out. I always had you pegged as being older than 22.

I know what it is like to be so stressed, and worried, but you don't have to be. I don't care to turn this thread into a religious one, and I don't have to, you already know better.

I don't say that to condemn you, but to encourage you. Every experience in your life is bringing you to the place that you need to go. You need to start trusting and resting, this is preferred to sweating and losing sleep.
 
sunder had a great post up there.

You dont require sex, you are very nice, would never cheat on her and you are broke. She was probably bored out of her friggin mind! She actually found church to be more fun. take that for what it is worth. Go let loose man. go wild! Be fun! You are free dude!!!

I would recommend banging a cougar. that way you can get a little extra cash since you sound strapped for it.
 
I would recommend banging a cougar. that way you can get a little extra cash since you sound strapped for it.

i like this plan. they usually have money from a divorce settlement and are very liberal with what they buy..go for it
 
Man, you are young to be so stressed out. I always had you pegged as being older than 22.

I know what it is like to be so stressed, and worried, but you don't have to be. I don't care to turn this thread into a religious one, and I don't have to, you already know better.

I don't say that to condemn you, but to encourage you. Every experience in your life is bringing you to the place that you need to go. You need to start trusting and resting, this is preferred to sweating and losing sleep.

I know man. But it wears me down sometimes. I go through periods of strength. Every one comes to me with their issues and I have to find them solutions, and then when I have the issue it just seems there is no solution. I never give up, but thats kinda the best I can offer.

sunder had a great post up there.

You dont require sex, you are very nice, would never cheat on her and you are broke. She was probably bored out of her friggin mind! She actually found church to be more fun. take that for what it is worth. Go let loose man. go wild! Be fun! You are free dude!!!

I would recommend banging a cougar. that way you can get a little extra cash since you sound strapped for it.

Hahah, as per reference to my religious standing. Every little bit I lax up, and the more I seem to give into the more blows my faith takes, and the worse off I feel. I dont think being some cougars boy toy would benefit me the best.
 
Hahah, as per reference to my religious standing. Every little bit I lax up, and the more I seem to give into the more blows my faith takes, and the worse off I feel. I dont think being some cougars boy toy would benefit me the best.

in my opinion life is too short man. you gotta get out there and grab it by the horns. bang alot of chicks with protection of course. borrow some money and go gambling then lose it anyway and get even further in debt. Get a shitty job and do the worst job you can possily do without getting fired. do it all man. Life is a comedy of errors in my opinion. thats how you know you had a good 80 years or however long you last.

I am sure god wants us to be happy and obviously you arent. something is notright, you have to find a balance. You arent Jesus. if you do all of the things i said to a ridiculous extent then that is what i would call a sin. But ya gotta live little. Girls like fun and excitement. You soud very predictable to me like you have no surprises up your sleeves. No ridiculous stories to tell about dumb **** you have done.
 
I know man. But it wears me down sometimes. I go through periods of strength. Every one comes to me with their issues and I have to find them solutions, and then when I have the issue it just seems there is no solution. I never give up, but thats kinda the best I can offer.
Ahhh...the caretaker.
 
Ahhh...the caretaker.

Basically I play the role of being a youth pastor without actually having the title lol. Really it makes me feel good, and like my life has some value to it. But it also makes things a lil ruff.

I do think my biggest issue is finding a balance without compromising who I am. Then again at the moment I am not sure who I am lol.
 
I think part of the problem is the resentment that seems to flow in my blood since my ex. There is a distrust, an uncertainty, and a little bit of not wanting to care.

Tis the reason I dont indulge myself in the world, too easy is it to become lost in a cycle.
 
I think part of the problem is the resentment that seems to flow in my blood since my ex. There is a distrust, an uncertainty, and a little bit of not wanting to care.

Tis the reason I dont indulge myself in the world, too easy is it to become lost in a cycle.

A good lesson I have been taught is not to knock on fates door unless I am ready for her to open.

Very much can is all your feedback and comments and advice appreciated. To me at the moment I wont turn to my chuch family....they dont understand these things.

Though tonight with a bud we produced an insanly cheap and easy way to make mad cash by turning a homebrew concoction of something into a local marketable item. Mix one parts this with one parts that, and supplementation meets genius and a new legal knock you on your arse formula is introduced.... I would say more but this is too good to be true. We are gona do some expiriments. My bud came from vegas, and this creation is no joke when it took him for a spin.
 
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Though tonight with a bud we produced an insanly cheap and easy way to make mad cash by turning a homebrew concoction of something into a local marketable item. Mix one parts this with one parts that, and supplementation meets genius and a new legal knock you on your arse formula is introduced.... I would say more but this is too good to be true. We are gona do some expiriments. My bud came from vegas, and this creation is no joke when it took him for a spin.


yeah this sounds like an incredibly bad idea. This is what I am talking about. A get rich quick scheme should do the trick. I like the idea and think you should go for it.
 
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