natty texan
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Does this mean it's more effective than GABA?
I did a quick search but I didn't find any head to head comparisons/arguments.
Phenibut Vs. GABA which one is more effective?
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Does this mean it's more effective than GABA?
I did a quick search but I didn't find any head to head comparisons/arguments.
MKM775
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I have used both and found phenibut to be far more effective for relaxation and a feeling of well being. I have read of recent problems with phenibut being produced thats not as effective. Maybe just a bad batch? Make sure the phenibut powder has a shiny look (like table sugar) and not a dull look (like powdered sugar). The dull looking batches are supposed to be complete crap. Hopefully its only a temporary problem.
Chops89
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I have not tried GABA, however I can vouch for Phenibut's effectiveness. As MKM775 said, there seems to be a different batch going around now. I have some of this batch and I find you just need to use a higher dosage to get the desired effect. I typically take 2 grams, wait 1.5-2 hours then take another 2 grams of this powdered sugar-like Phenibut. This keeps me feeling good throughout the night and provides for excellent sleep. It also puts me in a great mood throughout the entire next day (a sort of pleasurable "afterglow").
Zero V
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I am taking 2-3 phenibut here in a minute. It makes me socially open, happier, a lil more confident. I love it! Dont take 6 caps, then you kinda feel high.....
It definitely is good, but I havent taken GABA(less it was in one of my supps :dunno
I use it for social anxiety, works wonders.
It definitely is good, but I havent taken GABA(less it was in one of my supps :dunno
I use it for social anxiety, works wonders.
TexasTitan
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I am taking 2-3 phenibut here in a minute. It makes me socially open, happier, a lil more confident. I love it! Dont take 6 caps, then you kinda feel high.....
It definitely is good, but I havent taken GABA(less it was in one of my supps :dunno
You do realize a bunch of guys are going to pop 6 caps now right?
Zero V
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well at least its safe compared to other stuff they would pop. And its not a trippy high, but like being so dam happy nothing can get you down. Besides, if they do do that, and do it for about 5 days in a row and stop, they will have anxiety attacks and shell themselves in.
Long term use of phenibut carries a slight resistence/addiction type thing, where when you stop, whatever it was helping you with will get worse for 2-3 days, then go back to normal.
washingtonirvin
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Have not tried GABA. Have taken phenibut maybe 10 times, and honestly I can't tell you what it's like. I am just out like a light when I take it.
In terms of efficacy, I would like to introduce another GABA-derivative into the discussion: pregabalin (aka lyrica) was created as a stronger successor to gabapentin.
I don't think it's just a question of which is stronger ... having taken phenibut and pregabalin, I can vouch that the two are qualitatively different. Whereas phenibut just puts me out, pregabalin I would describe as relaxing in the best sense of the word. I could take a pregabalin if sleep-deprived, and it would help the crappy sleep-deprived feeling, and maybe even make me feel less sleep deprived. In contrast, I could also take it an hour before my usual bedtime, and proceed to sleep peacefully right away.
Waking up is never hard after taking either compound. The withdrawal effect of high-dose phenibut is documented ... I would just like to point out that the same applies to pregabalin. After taking it for several consecutive days of anxiety (the IRS had come to my house!), I noticed some rebound anxiety when I went without.
Pregabalin is seriously fun stuff, and the "hangover" is nothing in comparison to something like adderall. People on other messageboards say things like "this is how life is meant to feel" and having taken it, it is hard to disagree. One 150mg cap makes me feel like that, and I don't even want to know what two would do (ok, maybe a little). That said, I am currently holding off on getting more. I want to hold it in reserve for times of increased anxiety.
Cheers
Washingtonirvin
In terms of efficacy, I would like to introduce another GABA-derivative into the discussion: pregabalin (aka lyrica) was created as a stronger successor to gabapentin.
I don't think it's just a question of which is stronger ... having taken phenibut and pregabalin, I can vouch that the two are qualitatively different. Whereas phenibut just puts me out, pregabalin I would describe as relaxing in the best sense of the word. I could take a pregabalin if sleep-deprived, and it would help the crappy sleep-deprived feeling, and maybe even make me feel less sleep deprived. In contrast, I could also take it an hour before my usual bedtime, and proceed to sleep peacefully right away.
Waking up is never hard after taking either compound. The withdrawal effect of high-dose phenibut is documented ... I would just like to point out that the same applies to pregabalin. After taking it for several consecutive days of anxiety (the IRS had come to my house!), I noticed some rebound anxiety when I went without.
Pregabalin is seriously fun stuff, and the "hangover" is nothing in comparison to something like adderall. People on other messageboards say things like "this is how life is meant to feel" and having taken it, it is hard to disagree. One 150mg cap makes me feel like that, and I don't even want to know what two would do (ok, maybe a little). That said, I am currently holding off on getting more. I want to hold it in reserve for times of increased anxiety.
Cheers
Washingtonirvin
TexasTitan
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Zero V
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Dont. lol. J
Though if you get absinthe it has wormwood in it, and that will mess you up like crazy. Only recently re-legalized in the U.S.
Not the same, but lol....worm made me think of it.
IvyLeaguePump
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I felt nothing from Phenibut (even at higher dosages), but I've never tried GABA.
Also, I just opened a cap to see the color, and mine resembles table sugar.
Also, I just opened a cap to see the color, and mine resembles table sugar.
wontstop985
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Take enough phenibut and you get a sweet-ass hangover the next day where you feel mildly drunk until late afternoon.
Pretty fucking awesome.
The best way I can describe this hangover feeling is to imagine getting shit-faced until 4am and then sleeping 3 hours and starting your day. You're still drunk, but it's a different drunk feeling than you got when you were actually drinking the alcohol.
Also, my bro refers to it as "butt powder." That's pretty fucking awesome too.
Pretty fucking awesome.
The best way I can describe this hangover feeling is to imagine getting shit-faced until 4am and then sleeping 3 hours and starting your day. You're still drunk, but it's a different drunk feeling than you got when you were actually drinking the alcohol.
Also, my bro refers to it as "butt powder." That's pretty fucking awesome too.
thebigt
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i just started phenibtxt, i took 4 caps before bed and slept good. when i woke up i was drowsy, this turned into a mellow/calm feeling that lasted the whole night at work-very nice
natty texan
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....that sounds a little bothersome...:nervous:
Zero V
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That would be the effects I am talking about. lol. Though the insane speed with with your brain seems to move after about 6 caps(I have phenibut XT) is pretty crazy in and of itself.
natty texan
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ugh
my brain moves way to fast as it is.
anyway i just realized both gaba and phenibut are in my somnidren.
My bulk gaba got a little water in it and now it's all clumpy...o well
my brain moves way to fast as it is.
anyway i just realized both gaba and phenibut are in my somnidren.
My bulk gaba got a little water in it and now it's all clumpy...o well
SemiBulimic
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Just had a nasty experience with phenibut........
just posted it in this supplement forum but i don't have 50 posts yet so can't post the link
just posted it in this supplement forum but i don't have 50 posts yet so can't post the link
Zero V
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You mean dat?
lol.
BTW somnidren gh is crazy stuff. That numb, warm tingly feeling before bed...combined with ZMK.....OH MAN...
I was lucky enough to run an MST sponsored log back then, amazing products. Great company.
SemiBulimic
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You mean dat?
lol.
BTW somnidren gh is crazy stuff. That numb, warm tingly feeling before bed...combined with ZMK.....OH MAN...
I was lucky enough to run an MST sponsored log back then, amazing products. Great company
yep that one. cheers zero :arms::arms:
lol.
BTW somnidren gh is crazy stuff. That numb, warm tingly feeling before bed...combined with ZMK.....OH MAN...
I was lucky enough to run an MST sponsored log back then, amazing products. Great company
yep that one. cheers zero :arms::arms:
lonewolf0420
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So I was thinking of this combo.
Phenibut - 1g 3days on, 3days off
GABA - 1g daily - 500mg preworkout, 500mg before bed
5htp - 100mg daily, evening time.
I've been taking melatonin 3mg in the evening, nightly for a while. I might cycle off.
Any potential issues?
Phenibut - 1g 3days on, 3days off
GABA - 1g daily - 500mg preworkout, 500mg before bed
5htp - 100mg daily, evening time.
I've been taking melatonin 3mg in the evening, nightly for a while. I might cycle off.
Any potential issues?
Zero V
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None I can see. Do you plan to run straight 3 days, and straight off 3 days? Because it will have zero benefit on off days IMO. I would pick 3-4 days a week where you could use the boost from it. I am taking about 1g before a softball game tonight as well as a slim xtreme :bling:
lonewolf0420
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It was on the bottle to take 3days on/3days off.
Primaforce Phenibut caps
"Do not take for more than 3 days in a row without 2-3 day wash out.
Zero V
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o.0 Weird. I mean, essentially if you dont high dose it it is fine for 4-5 days wit with 2-3 days off.
For those 3 days it will work, but otherwise, bleh. I use it to block anxiety, which is why I select specific days for it. I used to take it Tues/Thurs for school.
lonewolf0420
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Should I split the dose 500mg day/ 500mg night? I can't say that I feel energized after taking it.
Zero V
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Phenibut does nothing for me energy wise. It does give me more pep, but its not an energy supplement. Its an anti-depressant/Mood elevater/ anxiety suppressor.
I guess it actually prevents the chemical interaction that triggers anxiety, which is why its so great.
Best combo in the world is 1 slim xtrem with to capsules of phenibut. Its heaven mood and feel good wise, with energy to burn, and you always smile. Even confidence goes way up. I have never ran juice, but I am guessing this will be similar to how it will feel.
lonewolf0420
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I just picked up a bottle of SX. Two caps is a good dose for me. How much Phenibut are you taking with that dose. I have 500mg caps, and 250mg caps.
Tonight I'll make sure I throw a couple of Phenibut caps in my bottle with my morning dose of SX. Also in that mix is ALA, EGCG, Zinc, ALCAR, sometimes PEA, but lately I've been saving that for Preworkout.
Zero V
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I use 1-1.5 grams. Mine are 500mg each.
I have experimented up to 3g. Which honestly 3g like I have said before in another thread I think gives me a since of euphoria, kinda like a high in a sense(but at 6 caps tis a lot, your not supposed to exceed 4 lol).
With all of that mixed in I would say 1-1.5g should be perfect. Honestly PEA for me lasts only 20-30 minutes, followed with a focused yet mangled feeling. Though I was takign 1-1.2g of PEA when I was testing it :laugh2: dont do that. How much are you dosing? At 1g it actually will have similar effects to shrooms for some people.
I would stagger the Phenibut. For me it takes 1-2 hours to kick in. SX kicks in about an hour and a half.
Phenibut has a half life of 5 hours, so really that's when its effects actually start to wear off for me. What you can do is take 1 gram to start, and about hour 4 take 500mg, and you can keep the ball rolling for about 8-9 hours of feel good. Add in the mood elevation of SX, and really you got about 12 hours of feeling like a king.
I also notice the next day I feel better when I wake up when using this. It does enhance sleep.
Plus the synergy is great. Phenibut blocks anxiety, while SX is a stim, so it feels like SX actually works better with it, than without it in my experience. I would cycle off weekends or such.
My bottle of phenibut, plus online sources say 5 days on 2 off. Kinda like do the work week, then clean out on the weekend. I like I said just pick 2-3 days a week for specific use(and I only use SX on those days too).
Just be careful mixing too much at once, not sure how that could effect absorption.
