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M-Drol, Epistane, and P-Tren Facial Hair

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I actually have a few questions.
I am new on here but I have been reading a lot of the forums on many products and other fitness related topics and a lot of the information has been very useful.
I have a couple of questions:

I am going to take a stack of M-Drol, Epistane, and P-Tren. I know the potential damage, side effects, and risks but I am still going to take it. I am going to use the right support for my liver and a proper PCT.
(I might not even take one of them just for added safety.)

I have some facial hair. Would this stack give me more facial hair or at least accelerate it.

Has anybody had any experience with it and had growth of facial hair.
 
I actually have a few questions.
I am new on here but I have been reading a lot of the forums on many products and other fitness related topics and a lot of the information has been very useful.
I have a couple of questions:

I am going to take a stack of M-Drol, Epistane, and P-Tren. I know the potential damage, side effects, and risks but I am still going to take it. I am going to use the right support for my liver and a proper PCT.
(I might not even take one of them just for added safety.)

I have some facial hair. Would this stack give me more facial hair or at least accelerate it.

Has anybody had any experience with it and had growth of facial hair.

1. wow
2. wrong forum, this goes in the steroids section.
3. how old are you??
4. why?

(at the top of your thread go to thread tools, move thread, and put t in the Anabolics section)
 
1. wow
2. wrong forum, this goes in the steroids section.
3. how old are you??
4. why?

(at the top of your thread go to thread tools, move thread, and put t in the Anabolics section)
I dont know how to move the thread. Thanks for the info though.
I didnt know these products were steroids? I was going to post a question asking are these products steroids.
 
I dont know how to move the thread. Thanks for the info though.
I didnt know these products were steroids? I was going to post a question asking are these products steroids.

really with such a lack of knowledge on it dont consider taking them for at least a year(as long as your already 21) and putting some time into research.
 
really with such a lack of knowledge on it dont consider taking them for at least a year(as long as your already 21) and putting some time into research.
Its not that I don't have a lack of knowledge. I am given a lot of different information. Some call them prohormone and some call them steroids. Some call them steroids because they think prohormones are legal steroids. So it being a steroid or a prohormone is relative to the person responding.

but since you have some information could you tell me if these products are androgenic?
 
hahahahahahaha wow...srry just hard to believe...use the search button before you do anything or your gonna get gyno and you wont be able to get it up again
 
you have absolutely know f-ing clue what you are about to get yourself into my little prepubescent friend.

you don't wana take steroids now, especially mdrol. wait a few years. and even if you are >21, still wait a few years. it will take you that long to actually gain the knowledge necessary to safely enjoy these compounds... and NOT ALL AT ONCE BECAUSE THATS JUST STUPID. take the time to learn enough to successfully make it out of a cycle of JUST ONE of those compounds.

do yourself a big favor and stop what you're doing, and continue reading, continue learning, etc. you can always learn more... always. if you really have to be such a f*cking badass, which you probably will, i would not take anything more than a 4-6 week cycle of epistane/epithio clone.

why do you have to just jump on right into it with the

"I know the potential damage, side effects, and risks but I am still going to take it. I am going to use the right support for my liver and a proper PCT.
(I might not even take one of them just for added safety.)"

thats just being ignorant. and real badass, skippin out on the PCT, cause you don't need that "added safety"

you seem to know two things, that the liver will take a beating, and that you 'should' construct a pct. not 'take a pct'. that would mean you just went and bought noxedex xt or some crap. i say construct because thats exactly what you must do. construct, and design a post cycle therapy PROGRAM to enable your speedy recovery, tackling the problems at hand from multiple angles. its a thought out process.

please don't come back here asking what happened when your nose is bleeding all over the keyboard. we did tell you so. i hope i swayed your decision a bit. probably not, but you'll learn from your mistakes here big time.
 
you have absolutely know f-ing clue what you are about to get yourself into my little prepubescent friend.

you don't wana take steroids now, especially mdrol. wait a few years. and even if you are >21, still wait a few years. it will take you that long to actually gain the knowledge necessary to safely enjoy these compounds... and NOT ALL AT ONCE BECAUSE THATS JUST STUPID. take the time to learn enough to successfully make it out of a cycle of JUST ONE of those compounds.

do yourself a big favor and stop what you're doing, and continue reading, continue learning, etc. you can always learn more... always. if you really have to be such a f*cking badass, which you probably will, i would not take anything more than a 4-6 week cycle of epistane/epithio clone.

why do you have to just jump on right into it with the

"I know the potential damage, side effects, and risks but I am still going to take it. I am going to use the right support for my liver and a proper PCT.
(I might not even take one of them just for added safety.)"

thats just being ignorant. and real badass, skippin out on the PCT, cause you don't need that "added safety"

you seem to know two things, that the liver will take a beating, and that you 'should' construct a pct. not 'take a pct'. that would mean you just went and bought noxedex xt or some crap. i say construct because thats exactly what you must do. construct, and design a post cycle therapy PROGRAM to enable your speedy recovery, tackling the problems at hand from multiple angles. its a thought out process.

please don't come back here asking what happened when your nose is bleeding all over the keyboard. we did tell you so. i hope i swayed your decision a bit. probably not, but you'll learn from your mistakes here big time.
Thanks for your response.

I am not being a badass. I have taken supplements before. I am not prepubescent.
The supplements I had taken before didnt do anything for me so it was time for me to upgrade into something more powerful. This isn't my first cycle. The supplements I had taken before weren't as powerful as this cycle but that is the reason why I have made this decision.
Thanks for your concern though. I really appreciate it.

The reason I jumped into it was to avoid responses such as: "You dont know what your getting yourself into." and "Don't Do it. It hurts the liver." and "You are too young."
I appreciate responses like this because they are informing me on the risks and the possibility of considerable damage. But I've heard it before and I wanted to avoided it. Getting more responses like that is redundant. Secondly people tend to respond with advice and do not answer the original question.

and and whoa! I didnt say I was going to skip out on the PCT. I need the PCT and I am going to take it. I said I am going to skip out on maybe one of the supplements. Maybe I will take Epistane and M-Drol and leave our P-Tren. And I want you to know that you hay have influenced this choice. So thank you. Your guidance wasn't in vain.

However I think I have the PCT I wanted but if you have any recommendations I will take it into consideration. Believe me I will. the PCT is the part I have trouble with. So I am going to need your help. Help me construct a better PCT.

Like I said. Thanks a lot for your advice. It will do me some good.
 
Thanks for your response.

I am not being a badass. I have taken supplements before. I am not prepubescent.
The supplements I had taken before didnt do anything for me so it was time for me to upgrade into something more powerful. This isn't my first cycle. The supplements I had taken before weren't as powerful as this cycle but that is the reason why I have made this decision.
Thanks for your concern though. I really appreciate it.

The reason I jumped into it was to avoid responses such as: "You dont know what your getting yourself into." and "Don't Do it. It hurts the liver." and "You are too young."
I appreciate responses like this because they are informing me on the risks and the possibility of considerable damage. But I've heard it before and I wanted to avoided it. Getting more responses like that is redundant. Secondly people tend to respond with advice and do not answer the original question.

and and whoa! I didnt say I was going to skip out on the PCT. I need the PCT and I am going to take it. I said I am going to skip out on maybe one of the supplements. Maybe I will take Epistane and M-Drol and leave our P-Tren. And I want you to know that you hay have influenced this choice. So thank you. Your guidance wasn't in vain.

However I think I have the PCT I wanted but if you have any recommendations I will take it into consideration. Believe me I will. the PCT is the part I have trouble with. So I am going to need your help. Help me construct a better PCT.

Like I said. Thanks a lot for your advice. It will do me some good.


What other "cycle" what did you use? And really you kinda made me a bit irritated when you called these things supplements....Its a Pro Hormone, it IS A STEROID. Your balls shrink, natural test stops working, gyno is a possible risk, liver goes wacky, BP shoots up, etc.

Creatine is a supplement, vitamins are, Drive, ragnarok, ZMA, etc those are supplements. Technically the bottle says dietary supplement. But We have to assume you have an IQ over 110 and can decide that this is a lil more than that...

What is your PCT btw? Does it involve a SERM?

Unless the other "supps" were of the steroids genre, dont call t a cycle -.-
 
I actually have a few questions.
I am new on here but I have been reading a lot of the forums on many products and other fitness related topics and a lot of the information has been very useful.
I have a couple of questions:

I am going to take a stack of M-Drol, Epistane, and P-Tren. I know the potential damage, side effects, and risks but I am still going to take it. I am going to use the right support for my liver and a proper PCT.
(I might not even take one of them just for added safety.)

I have some facial hair. Would this stack give me more facial hair or at least accelerate it.

Has anybody had any experience with it and had growth of facial hair.

WOW is all I can say. So your going to take it regardless and your only real question is about facial hair. Doesnt your transgender Dr. go over all this? LOL! but seriously, why does that matter? so maybe we can understand this post allittle better
 
What other "cycle" what did you use? And really you kinda made me a bit irritated when you called these things supplements....Its a Pro Hormone, it IS A STEROID. Your balls shrink, natural test stops working, gyno is a possible risk, liver goes wacky, BP shoots up, etc.

Creatine is a supplement, vitamins are, Drive, ragnarok, ZMA, etc those are supplements. Technically the bottle says dietary supplement. But We have to assume you have an IQ over 110 and can decide that this is a lil more than that...

What is your PCT btw? Does it involve a SERM?

Unless the other "supps" were of the steroids genre, dont call t a cycle -.-
I think an IQ level of 110 is average intelligence. So I think even with an IQ level of 110 I will still recognize it.
Sorry for referring to it as supplements.

I have taken prohormones before but they were mild and not as powerful as M-Drol and Epistane and P-Tren.
I took a product called Superplexx which was supposedly a combination of Superdrol and Halodrol. I doubt it though.
I also took some other products which just didnt work for me. I didnt notice any strength gains at all. But I admit I didnt diet and only benched and curled. But that was around 1 to 2 years ago. I am more prepared now and will take all precautions, diet, and take a PCT. I am not arrogant as I was when I was younger.

Oh. I am not sure if I will take P-tren with it because some people are saying that they have taken a Tren like product (I am not sure if it is the steroid Tren or a prohormone which converts to Tren or a prohormone with Tren in its name) but it seems to increase prolactin levels, causing puffy nipples, and lactation. That is very weird but I am looking up some products to try to prevent it from happening.

So I might by P-Tren or I might not. Epistane and M-Drol seems good and P-Tren kind of seems redundant anyways.


As for my PCT. I am really not sure what it is yet. I still didn't think it all the way through. I need more recommendations. I think I have some products in mine but no definitive choice.
If you can give me some suggestions on a PCT: What PCT have you used?

and as for SERMS? Do the SERMS block estrogen formation? I am a little confused on it.
 
I think an IQ level of 110 is average intelligence. So I think even with an IQ level of 110 I will still recognize it.
Sorry for referring to it as supplements.

I have taken prohormones before but they were mild and not as powerful as M-Drol and Epistane and P-Tren.
I took a product called Superplexx which was supposedly a combination of Superdrol and Halodrol. I doubt it though.
I also took some other products which just didnt work for me. I didnt notice any strength gains at all. But I admit I didnt diet and only benched and curled. But that was around 1 to 2 years ago. I am more prepared now and will take all precautions, diet, and take a PCT. I am not arrogant as I was when I was younger.

Oh. I am not sure if I will take P-tren with it because some people are saying that they have taken a Tren like product (I am not sure if it is the steroid Tren or a prohormone which converts to Tren or a prohormone with Tren in its name) but it seems to increase prolactin levels, causing puffy nipples, and lactation. That is very weird but I am looking up some products to try to prevent it from happening.

So I might by P-Tren or I might not. Epistane and M-Drol seems good and P-Tren kind of seems redundant anyways.


As for my PCT. I am really not sure what it is yet. I still didn't think it all the way through. I need more recommendations. I think I have some products in mine but no definitive choice.
If you can give me some suggestions on a PCT: What PCT have you used?

and as for SERMS? Do the SERMS block estrogen formation? I am a little confused on it.

You just want someone to lay out your cycle and pct while you get an education on all of it. Go read and research like everyone else!! Not everybody interprets things all the same. I might understand it but cant explain it to a tee.
 
As for my PCT. I am really not sure what it is yet. I still didn't think it all the way through. I need more recommendations. I think I have some products in mine but no definitive choice.
If you can give me some suggestions on a PCT: What PCT have you used?

and as for SERMS? Do the SERMS block estrogen formation? I am a little confused on it.

Try using the search feature for pct...not that hard.

Also why would you want to stack these things together if you know the risks?

any of these are good enough on their own so why would you want to mess with your lipids and liver even more by adding more methyls?

I didn't look up superplexx but if it's really superdrol/halodrol then there is no reason you wouldn't see anything if you are eating and working out right.


Instead of worrying about this **** right now because you won't post your age I'm assuming you are under 21, you should be worrying about your diet and training. (I'm not going to tell you not to do them because I'd be a hypocrite since I started younger than 21...but I at least took the time to research because I knew I was ****ing with my endocrine system which is pretty significant)
Post your daily diet you plan and total calories and some of your lifts and I'll help you with that.


How can you be so willing to jump into 3 methyls and not even care about your own body like that? Aren't you at least curious as to what the things you are taking can do to you? You are young you don't want to be ****ed up now.
 
Ah p-tren I was thinking p-plex.

Either way m-drol is more than strong enough on it's own and epistane is still good too.

Never done p-tren, just real tren ;)
 
I think an IQ level of 110 is average intelligence. So I think even with an IQ level of 110 I will still recognize it.
Sorry for referring to it as supplements.

I have taken prohormones before but they were mild and not as powerful as M-Drol and Epistane and P-Tren.
I took a product called Superplexx which was supposedly a combination of Superdrol and Halodrol. I doubt it though.
I also took some other products which just didnt work for me. I didnt notice any strength gains at all. But I admit I didnt diet and only benched and curled. But that was around 1 to 2 years ago. I am more prepared now and will take all precautions, diet, and take a PCT. I am not arrogant as I was when I was younger.

Oh. I am not sure if I will take P-tren with it because some people are saying that they have taken a Tren like product (I am not sure if it is the steroid Tren or a prohormone which converts to Tren or a prohormone with Tren in its name) but it seems to increase prolactin levels, causing puffy nipples, and lactation. That is very weird but I am looking up some products to try to prevent it from happening.

So I might by P-Tren or I might not. Epistane and M-Drol seems good and P-Tren kind of seems redundant anyways.


As for my PCT. I am really not sure what it is yet. I still didn't think it all the way through. I need more recommendations. I think I have some products in mine but no definitive choice.
If you can give me some suggestions on a PCT: What PCT have you used?

and as for SERMS? Do the SERMS block estrogen formation? I am a little confused on it.

which prohormones other than superplexx(which why would you take something that sounds like a cheesy wrestling move?).

How are you more prepared? what is your diet like?

M-Drol alone should be more than enough unless you are completely screwing around. Which it is superdrol.

There is alot you haven't thought about.

there are some good threads filled with alot of info on here....take awhile to read though alot of it, especially the PCT section..
 
superplexx has 25 mg(pretty high dose) of M-drol/superdrol. 10mg of phera and 25mg of halodrol all in one pill.

you ran a steroid cocktail and you say you didnt gain ****. maybe its time you find another hobby.
 
superplexx has 25 mg(pretty high dose) of M-drol/superdrol. 10mg of phera and 25mg of halodrol all in one pill.

you ran a steroid cocktail and you say you didnt gain ****. maybe its time you find another hobby.
 
superplexx has 25 mg(pretty high dose) of M-drol/superdrol. 10mg of phera and 25mg of halodrol all in one pill.

you ran a steroid cocktail and you say you didnt gain ****. maybe its time you find another hobby.

If you didnt gain off taking even one of those a day something is way wrong. Go to the training and diet forums before you do this. After a few months of having that down perfect and doing some research come back here.
 
You just want someone to lay out your cycle and pct while you get an education on all of it. Go read and research like everyone else!! Not everybody interprets things all the same. I might understand it but can explain it to a tee.
No I'm not. I'm taking an opportunity to learn more information. I already have the main points on my cycle and I will research some more. this is part of my research.
Why not get an immediate personalized recommendation?

In addition what is better? No recommendations or Some recommendations?

I'm at least trying and not jumping into something without asking some people who have experience and knowledge.
 
If you didnt gain off taking even one of those a day something is way wrong. Go to the training and diet forums before you do this. After a few months of having that down perfect and doing some research come back here.
the reason I didn't gain is for 2 possibilities.
-One possibility is that the Superdrol that was purported to be contained in Superplexx wasn't the real prohormone. Possibly like Superdrol NG which is DHEA or something like that. I am not sure about the Halodrol.
-But one thing I know for sure I did wrong was not diet and train that hard. All I did was bench and curl but I didn't diet.

With my other prohormones I had 4000 calories a day which wasn't that great and the diet wasn't well constructed or premeditated. All I did was rummage around in the cabinet for something that had the highest calories and I ended up eating peanut butter and toast. I was a horrible time.

I admit it was my fault but I learned from my mistake. I was arrogant to believe that I didn't need any diet or to work out hard to get big but like I said I learned from my mistake.
 
which prohormones other than superplexx(which why would you take something that sounds like a cheesy wrestling move?).

How are you more prepared? what is your diet like?

M-Drol alone should be more than enough unless you are completely screwing around. Which it is superdrol.

There is alot you haven't thought about.

there are some good threads filled with alot of info on here....take awhile to read though alot of it, especially the PCT section..
I took superplexx because I heard good things about it. I didn’t even know what Superdrol was. I knew it was supposed to be good but there was also some products which professed to be Superdrol but really wasn’t. I didn’t know it was a Steroid/Prohormone. Anyways it was a waste of nigh-100 dollars.

I am preparing my diet. I am looking up the essential foods I need. But I know one thing I will be eating a lot is Tuna Fish and Soybeans because they are quick ways to get extra protein per small serving. Say what you want but I think it is good.

I will look into the PCT section and Liver Support Section.

I looked up something about prolactin gyno and estrogen gyno.
Do you think Epistane is good enough as a prohormone or do I need something else.

For prolactin gyno I was thinking about P5P, vitex, and Tyrosine.

I will go around in the forum section.
So if you have anything constructive to say please say it because I’m learning a lot but please spare me unconstructive comments that are just used to address my naivety.
 
WOW is all I can say. So your going to take it regardless and your only real question is about facial hair. Doesnt your transgender Dr. go over all this? LOL! but seriously, why does that matter? so maybe we can understand this post allittle better
No. I want to take this cycle to gain facial hair and gain muscle as well. If I didn't want to bulk up then I wouldn't invest in food and a gym membership or maybe an at home gym.

The reason why it matters is because I have a private reason I need the facial hair. that is why I need it. I didnt know my preferences mattered. I just asked a question. The question was: Would this give me Facial Hair. I didnt know you needed my entire life story.

I dont want to seem like I have an attitude but the comments are annoying. I want help and the question to be answered. It will help more than not helping.
 
why is everyone hating on this guy. Isn't this forum used to ask question? Instead of telling him to use the search tool, why not give me some advice yourself.
 
This whole thread is fuc*ing retarded! but maybe this 5min google search will help you, since Im supposed to be here to help you.

9. Virilization (Development of male characteristics in women)
This term refers masculinization, or development of male sexual characteristics that females could potentially suffer from steroid use. This side effect on women is often reversible after the cycle has ended. Some typical signs of virilization are the development of a deeper voice, hirsuitism (growth of excess body hair), enlargement of external genitalia (clitoral enlargement), and possible male pattern baldness, or acne on the face or body. This is all dependent, of course, on the compounds used as well as the dosages employed. Personally, I have witnessed the most permanent of these effects to be the deepening of the voice due to the hypertrophy (growth) of the vocal chords. This is typically the most unwelcome side effect, as it makes it very obvious when a woman is using steroids. Of course, if this begins, the best course of action is to cease taking all steroids immediately. There are several ways to reverse this effect, the most common being to undergo a medical procedure known as vocal chord scraping. And yes, it´s exactly what it sounds like.

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So what's all the fuss about? According to a Medical College of Wisconsin physician who specializes in sports medicine, it's about the perceived benefits of using anabolic steroids to enhance performance versus the real risks to the health of all athletes, not just professionals but youngsters as well.

"Anabolic steroids basically do two main things," said Mark W. Niedfeldt, MD, Medical College Associate Professor of Family and Community Medicine. "They're 'anabolic', which is related to building muscle, and they're 'androgenic', which is related to male characteristics. (Androgen is a term for a male sex hormone, such as testosterone.)

"To understand what they do, think of puberty in a male. Anabolic steroids increase muscle mass and masculinize features such as facial hair and deepening of the voice. These anabolics are synthetic derivatives of testosterone. They've been used to treat wasting diseases in some people, including HIV wasting more recently, and in the past in treating some types of dwarfism."

Dr. Niedfeldt practices at the Froedtert &The Medical College Sports Medicine Center and works regularly with professional and other elite athletes engaged in a wide range of sports. He noted that anabolic steroids are very different from corticosteroids, which are anti-inflammatory agents that are commonly used medically.

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No. I want to take this cycle to gain facial hair and gain muscle as well. If I didn't want to bulk up then I wouldn't invest in food and a gym membership or maybe an at home gym.

The reason why it matters is because I have a private reason I need the facial hair. that is why I need it. I didnt know my preferences mattered. I just asked a question. The question was: Would this give me Facial Hair. I didnt know you needed my entire life story.

I dont want to seem like I have an attitude but the comments are annoying. I want help and the question to be answered. It will help more than not helping.

This post is funny its just like the SouthPark episode, when Stan takes "hormones" and gets facial hair, and just like Stan you're also going to get the big ass titties!
 
This post is funny its just like the SouthPark episode, when Stan takes "hormones" and gets facial hair, and just like Stan you're also going to get the big ass titties!

But not the good kind of Big A Titties.....
 
I just had a 20 year-old girl come into my store yesterday asking about testosterone, steroids, etc.. She WANTED facial hair and all that man-jazz, so I sold her novedex xt telling her it was the next best thing we had under some 6-Bromo stuff we had.. I pointed her to this site, I was really kinda hoping the OP would be her for some reason... anyways, carry on!!
 
I just had a 20 year-old girl come into my store yesterday asking about testosterone, steroids, etc.. She WANTED facial hair and all that man-jazz, so I sold her novedex xt telling her it was the next best thing we had under some 6-Bromo stuff we had.. I pointed her to this site, I was really kinda hoping the OP would be her for some reason... anyways, carry on!!

Yea ive seen all this bs on Muarry talk show where women are removing their titts and taking test. to grow facial hiar, deeping voice and get muscle. It was scary cause some bit*h's looke like they have been a man all along. Hell I couldnt tell.
 
Yea ive seen all this bs on Muarry talk show where women are removing their titts and taking test. to grow facial hiar, deeping voice and get muscle. It was scary cause some bit*h's looke like they have been a man all along. Hell I couldnt tell.

thats not scary. Its the men who turn themselves into women who scare the crap outta me....
 
thats not scary. Its the men who turn themselves into women who scare the crap outta me....

Yea this is why i dont go out to the bar and get sh*t faced anymore. Im scared i will take home a dude that changed into a woman and cant tell till im home and he/she drops the drawers! LMAO! Just remember.........if its got a apple (adam's apple) its got a banan LOL!
 
Yea ive seen all this bs on Muarry talk show where women are removing their titts and taking test. to grow facial hiar, deeping voice and get muscle. It was scary cause some bit*h's looke like they have been a man all along. Hell I couldnt tell.

It was totally one of those chicks that already looks like a man. Was such a weird conversation, at times I thought I was on a candid camera show.
 
That my friend, is called a butch....

Also...if she is from the hood of trailer park be weary she doesn't ask for a banana and bungee cord.
 
Ask something stupid and get stupid responses!

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No. Its not asking something stupid. Its actually a good question.
Its not asking anything ridiculous or anything harebrained. But somehow I am getting responses from people who are indifferent to other people's preferences.
Unless it meets your criteria of what is worthy of having a response then it is stupid. That makes sense.


There is a reason why I need the facial hair for. And if there wasn't some underlying reason who cares?
I asked a question for my own personal preference.
The same way you want to get big or trim fat or whatever you want to do, because it is your own preference. We can only try to give you the best, that is most effective and safest way of achieving your goals.
 
superplexx has 25 mg(pretty high dose) of M-drol/superdrol. 10mg of phera and 25mg of halodrol all in one pill.

you ran a steroid cocktail and you say you didnt gain ****. maybe its time you find another hobby.
Uhhh.....I didnt diet or lift hard with it.
 
why is everyone hating on this guy. Isn't this forum used to ask question? Instead of telling him to use the search tool, why not give me some advice yourself.
You know why these guys don't give advice. Its because they have this self-righteous, pompous attitude and they feel as if their values are the only valid ideals that exist and if your values do not match theirs then your values count for nothing.
And they feel because of your values count for nothing they do not have to respond with a constructive answer but have to criticize.

Or maybe it helps them feel better about themselves. If so dont use me as a scapegoat to denigrate for therapeutic purposes. They have shrinks for that not forums on bodybuilding websites.
 
why is everyone hating on this guy. Isn't this forum used to ask question? Instead of telling him to use the search tool, why not give me some advice yourself.
Oh...or they do not have any advice to give. I could understand if it the advice is to lengthy to give but sometimes it could be summarized into a brief recommendation.
 
No. Its not asking something stupid. Its actually a good question.
Its not asking anything ridiculous or anything harebrained. But somehow I am getting responses from people who are indifferent to other people's preferences.
Unless it meets your criteria of what is worthy of having a response then it is stupid. That makes sense.


There is a reason why I need the facial hair for. And if there wasn't some underlying reason who cares?
I asked a question for my own personal preference.
The same way you want to get big or trim fat or whatever you want to do, because it is your own preference. We can only try to give you the best, that is most effective and safest way of achieving your goals.

What purpose to grow facial hair would you want to suffer shutdown, risk gyno, deal with high BP and the other issues......
 
Oh...or they do not have any advice to give. I could understand if it the advice is to lengthy to give but sometimes it could be summarized into a brief recommendation.

Read post #11 I gave you two sources for your question. One if your a woman and one if your a man. There's nothing else to awnser. As far as advice goes, I would figure out another way to obtain facial hair without the use of AAS, phormones, growth horomones, ect. Why shut your body down and deal with alot of possible side effects just to grow a beard.


:banghead: :sucks:
 
Read post #11 I gave you two sources for your question. One if your a woman and one if your a man. There's nothing else to awnser. As far as advice goes, I would figure out another way to obtain facial hair without the use of AAS, phormones, growth horomones, ect. Why shut your body down and deal with alot of possible side effects just to grow a beard.


:banghead: :sucks:

I myself am putting off using The One for another year.... I cant even justify a PH for a beard.

EDIT: BTW OP, are you a man or a woman? Rocks or a valley?
 
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