That was painful to read. Ever heard of a freakin' period?
AGAIN, your opinion is baseless unless you've tried both. What other way could you possibly have any basis of comparison? I don't ask anyone to toot our horn unless they've tried it. Geeze, what is wrong with you people? TRY IT, IF YOU DON"T LIKE IT FEEL FREE TO SAY SO. OTHERWISE YOUR POINT OF VIEW IS...WELL, POINTLESS.
I, in fact HAVE used both. More than once. And I like tren - notice I haven't bashed it here - although I didn't like the sides so much. And yes, I am affiliated with Applied Nutriceuticals but that doesn't automatically mean I'm full of "bunk" as you call it. Prior to launching The One we never got into PHs because we didn't want to be another "me too". So we tested unprecedented products before arriving at the one we did. Every tester we had blew up, got leaner, felt great and had virtually no sides, so we knew we found a winner. If we didn't we would still be looking. If you can't get that you never will and I really don't need to justify myself, our company, our tactics or our products to you.
But don't take my word for it. Read the logs.
And yes, I had a little fun with Mr. Trauma, because it was easy.