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Chub hardens up with help from RPN and Applied Nutriceuticals.

Day 30

So today is my last day of havoc. Dosed 1 cap on waking then 2 caps pre workout and then another in the evening.

Since it’s my last day I decided I’d throw in a packet of Muscle Pharm’s Battle Fuel since I had one lying around. So 2x havoc, packet of battle fuel and 3x RPM pre workout :)

Workout started well, didn’t notice much to begin with. Workout lasted for about an hour and 20mins, after 30mins the battle fuel was definitely kicking in along with RPM and havoc. I swole up like a monster :) A lot more focused while getting the reps out. Drank a ton of water during my session too.

Nipples were feeling quite sensitive last night and this morning. Didn’t play around with them though and it calmed down.

About 6-7 hours sleep last night, couldn’t get to sleep and I got up early.

Strength really good today, my grip kept slipping quite a lot which started to bug me. Might get some straps

Motivation is high. Looking forward to starting my PCT :)

Pump and Vascularity: Pump was great, swole! Lats and biceps just burst with size. Traps showing up more. 7 hours later and I’m still feeling pretty pumped up :) palms still insanely vascular

Stress/Appetite: Appetite is back to its normal high ish self. Stress not so much.

Libido: High again today

Joints are still nice.

Lethargy/Energy: Bit tired in the morning, nothing too bad. 3-4 hours after my workout I fell asleep, woke up with my face covered in drool and my mouth wide open haha. Quite hot too due to just chucking the covers over myself fully clothed! Slept for about an hour or so.

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Graglor said:
Congrats Chubby!!!
Looking forward to weight update. You keep us posted in PCT?
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yup! I was 192lbs this morning.

I'll carry on logging into PCT :)
 
Pic from week 3 i think it was. Not as bad as i thought it would be. Arms are a bit bigger than in that pic
 

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Inarius said:
have you thought of using divanex with igf2 and throwing drive in there as well during your pct?
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Great suggestion :) I actually have my Activate Xtreme here now, and am just waiting until I can get back into resistance training before I run my Activate Xtreme/IGF-2/Drive stack (as well as RPM and NeoVar Recomped)!
 
Inarius said:
have you thought of using divanex with igf2 and throwing drive in there as well during your pct?
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This is a very smart idea indeed! :)

Cheers!:cheers:
 
Day 1 PCT

Yesterday was my first day of PCT, also a day off.

Just to recap on what my PCT consists of.

Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) 20/20/10/10
IGF-2
Lean Xtreme
Post Cycle Support
Bio-Mend
Life support and what’s left of my cycle support
Taurine around 6g a day

Also my staples:

NoXidant
NeoVar Recomped
Purple Wraath (got some apple Xtend on the way, fancy a change)
Orange Triad
Gut Health
RPM but I’m running out soon!
Fish oils
Poseidon


Dosed IGF-2 in the morning yesterday along with lean xtreme and my other morning supps. Early evening i started to get a raging sore head which lasted all night and when i woke up this morning it was still there. Dosed Tamoxifen in the late evening.

Sleep was poor, 5 hours or so. No dreaming. Took awhile to get to sleep.

Strength N/A

Motivation is good :)

Pump and Vascularity: N/A. Arms real vascular.


Stress/Appetite: Appetite has been good, just getting harder to eat while I’m working! Stress was really high last night, I just wanted to kill all the kitchen staff at work. Total retards. I was surprised with the amount of ignorant customers as well.

Libido: Pretty high in the evening.

Joints are great!

Lethargy/Energy: Energy was good in the morning/afternoon. Evening it was ok, think it was more than I was just stressed and pissed off. By the time of the night it was just like “can’t be ****ed anymore”

I’m so so so sore from my back workout. DOMs in my upper back, lats and forearms. I’ve never ever had DOMs in my forearms before!

shoulders today if i can drag myself there before work!

weight 192lbs

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Guejsn said:
Great suggestion :) I actually have my Activate Xtreme here now, and am just waiting until I can get back into resistance training before I run my Activate Xtreme/IGF-2/Drive stack (as well as RPM and NeoVar Recomped)!
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on top of what i've already got. wouldn't adding that be over kill?
 
Chub said:
on top of what i've already got. wouldn't adding that be over kill?
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Yeah you do have a lot. You don't need to add either Divanex or Drive in (although what would one more supplement be?) You could just wait an maybe try a natural cycle once PCT is over?
 
Guejsn said:
Yeah you do have a lot. You don't need to add either Divanex or Drive in (although what would one more supplement be?) You could just wait an maybe try a natural cycle once PCT is over?
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I'm going to stick with what i've got at the moment and stay natural after PCT for a long time :)

will update tomorrow, today was anotehr day off!
 
ok so the last two days have been days off. really having to force myself to go to the gym tonight, ko'd when i got in from work and had a bag of crisps. Having my pre workout shake at the moment then heading out to do shoulders.
 
Good shoulders workout. Will update more after work and when i've been to gym. I'm getting sick of the fat around my belly!!!
 
Chub said:
Good shoulders workout. Will update more after work and when i've been to gym. I'm getting sick of the fat around my belly!!!
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:shock: I feel your pain :31:
 
Graglor said:
Have you looked into an anti-cortisol at all? Really helps with the belly fat.
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aye! i'm using Lean Xtreme as part of my PCT. I also heard Vit C is good for cortisol control, i'm getting plenty of that from my poseidon :)

Not long back from work, arms in an hour or so!
 
so this morning i dosed my morning supps, about 1 hour 40-45mins later i dose some neovar before my breakfast, 5 mins later i vom it all up. Don't think any of my morning supps came up apart from the neovar. was quite suprised with how disolved the neovar was after 5mins!

Started feeling quite dodgy 20mins before vomming. Feel a lot better now though, munching on some turkey :) i WILL fit in yesterdays update today! Good workout last night.

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someone makes it at the 6min ish mark!
 
About 6 hours sleep Saturday night.

Done biceps and some core work last night after work. Had the whole gym to myself, which was nice.

Motivation is great, been having to hit the gym after work the last couple of days which I don’t like too much. I prefer going in the morning/afternoon.

Pump and Vascularity: Pump was pretty good. Palms, shoulders and forearms nice and veiny. Showing up a lot more the last few days,

Stress/Appetite: Appetite is great at the moment, constantly hungry.

Libido: Libido is remaining strong

Joints are good

Lethargy/Energy: Not much lethargy. Energy is pretty good.

Quite sleepy though so I’m away to bed :)
 
Chub said:
About 6 hours sleep Saturday night.

Done biceps and some core work last night after work. Had the whole gym to myself, which was nice.

Motivation is great, been having to hit the gym after work the last couple of days which I don’t like too much. I prefer going in the morning/afternoon.

Pump and Vascularity: Pump was pretty good. Palms, shoulders and forearms nice and veiny. Showing up a lot more the last few days,

Stress/Appetite: Appetite is great at the moment, constantly hungry.

Libido: Libido is remaining strong

Joints are good

Lethargy/Energy: Not much lethargy. Energy is pretty good.

Quite sleepy though so I’m away to bed :)
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Way to fight through it Brother. I think everyone gets tired while bulking if doing it right.:bruce3:
 
Graglor said:
Way to fight through it Brother. I think everyone gets tired while bulking if doing it right.:bruce3:
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Energy is much better the last few days. Had a good sleep last night :)
 
Yesterday was a day off due to working all damn day! Only got 4 hours sleep the night before so i was really knackered ;)

Dosed 2 RPM in the morning then 2 again in the afternoon, felt alright till around 9pm then started getting really tired! Managed to get plenty meals in still.

Mood has been good along with motivation.

Libido has been really high still!

Had a great night sleep last night. Dosed my IGF-2 about 20mins before going to bed. Fast asleep within 30mins!

Just away to do chest now :)
 
i'm off work for the next 3 days so i'll update today, tomorrow morning when i get home. Just away to eat again then off to the gfs!

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having some pasta, chicken, blueberries,pineapple,figs and cucumber. couple spoonfuls of coconut oil afterwards too! appetite is raging this evening! :D
 
Ok so yesterday I done chest and tris. Workout was pretty rubbish! I don’t know if it was just because I was training later in the evening when usually I train in the morning. But I was working so it had to be after work. Strength just wasn’t great :( My nipples have been quite puffy the last couple days too, not sore just quite sensitive. I’ve been dosing my Nolvadex in the evening. Today will be day 7.


I got a great night sleep the night before, got up nice and early.

Motivation is high

Pump and Vascularity: Pump in my chest was pretty rubbish however when I got onto triceps they were burning :) my arms are still remaining vascular. The veins in my shoulders are a lot more visible now.

Stress/Appetite: stress has been low ish. Appetite has been through the roof. Ate my post workout meal then an hour later I had to eat again because it just felt like I hadn’t eaten!

Libido: still really high :)

Strength as i said was just poop! however I had good endurance while doing dips! Great burn!

Joints are great!

Lethargy/Energy: Energy was good, not really feeling tired. I’m up nice and early again this morning.


Inarius said:
you forgot the music. Thought id add some. :)
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haha cheers, it's not one i'd go for myself, it's not too bad!

This video is awesome!
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Day 7 PCT

Back this morning! Started off with ten sets of ten dead lifts. I haven’t done 10x10 in ages so I decided to up the weight 10kg. The workout was great. Energy throughout was really good. Popped open a new tub of Poseidon yesterday, lovely fine powder! New bottle of neovar too! My 5kg tub of protein came this morning aswell, I love the wee candy sweets they throw in! Got a free sample of RPM too haha, wasn’t expecting that one! I’m running low on RPM but I may give this sample to a friend.

Got some spots popping up on my chest. Not like crazy acne just little ones dotted all over. Kinda looks like a rash but its not. Side effect from the Nolvadex maybe?

I got around 7 hours sleep last night, kept waking up randomly. Wasn’t feeling tired when I woke up though. Felt like I was still sleeping, quite strange. Since about 2 days in to IGF-2 I’ve been dreaming every night. While I was using bullet proof it was the same then I ran out about 12 days from finishing havoc and the dreams disappear. I’m glad there back! I talk in my sleep sometimes, apparently last night I told my gf to “fcuking move!” I don’t remember that!

Motivation is magic! Squeezed out the last few reps of each exercise.

Pump and Vascularity: biceps and forearms blew up in size, rock solid! Not as vascular as yesterday.

Stress/Appetite: no stress. Appetite is still insanely high.

My mood is pretty good! Aggression was great in the gym but I wasn’t in a bad mood or anything, quite cheery!

Libido: normally high.

Joints are still good. I noticed my elbow didn’t click when I move it. I used to get a click while using my mouse.

Lethargy/Energy: energy is still great. Sometimes I can’t be arsed updating this log, but when I’m in the gym I’m thinking of loads of stuff to write then when I get home its like blaaaahhh :)


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Chub, have you noticed any weight difference yet.....during PCT I mean? as for the spots on your chest.......ironically I have the same.......but I think mine might be from shaving lol.
 
maurice02 said:
Chub, have you noticed any weight difference yet.....during PCT I mean? as for the spots on your chest.......ironically I have the same.......but I think mine might be from shaving lol.
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i'll weigh myself tomorrow morning and let you know, i'm not looking any smaller just the same really
 
maurice02 said:
Chub, have you noticed any weight difference yet.....during PCT I mean? as for the spots on your chest.......ironically I have the same.......but I think mine might be from shaving lol.
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I'm 192.2lbs this morning. Not too bad, I was a solid 185lbs pre cycle with my weight fluctuating up to 187.
 
Chub said:
I'm 192.2lbs this morning. Not too bad, I was a solid 185lbs pre cycle with my weight fluctuating up to 187.
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not bad dude, not bad at all. I noticed with Havoc that it definitely does cut fat. I am back at my starting weight exactly 3 weeks into PCT. I am leaner and more vascular, along with smaller love handles, and people noticed a change. I used it as a recomp. Was that your initial purpose, or a bulker?
 
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not bad dude, not bad at all. I noticed with Havoc that it definitely does cut fat. I am back at my starting weight exactly 3 weeks into PCT. I am leaner and more vascular, along with smaller love handles, and people noticed a change. I used it as a recomp. Was that your initial purpose, or a bulker?
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More of a bulker, i could of probably ate a lot more on cycle but my appetite did suffer slightly. I'm making up for it now though. I'm constantly hungry all day long! I did lose some body fat around the waist i think. a lot less bloated than i used to be too!
 
Chub said:
More of a bulker, i could of probably ate a lot more on cycle but my appetite did suffer slightly. I'm making up for it now though. I'm constantly hungry all day long! I did lose some body fat around the waist i think. a lot less bloated than i used to be too!
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yeah...havoc does make you bloated lol
 
Chub said:
More of a bulker, i could of probably ate a lot more on cycle but my appetite did suffer slightly. I'm making up for it now though. I'm constantly hungry all day long! I did lose some body fat around the waist i think. a lot less bloated than i used to be too!
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I'm noticing the same thing, thinner around the waist, more def, and slowly gaining. I took before measurements and meant to take some on Monday morning. I'll let ya know.
 
Day 8

So I got in 11 hours sleep. I did wake up a couple times but just went back to sleep.

Motivation still spot on!

Pump and Vascularity: Chest was insanely vascular in the evening

Stress/Appetite: appetite is good

Mood still ok!

Libido: high still.

Joints are good still, last day of Osteo-Sport tomorrow.

Lethargy/Energy: alright :)

Bigger update later today (Day 9) for shoulders

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ok lean xtreme i read. what are your dosages. i'm gonna start mine on day 10 of PCT, which is 3 days from now. I'm still gainin weight and strength. I put on 10lbs and feel fantastic. I only noticed testicular shrinkage on day 2 of PCT. odd enough, no libido issues. It has been sky high from day 4 to day 7.
i also tried some of ALRI's lean dreams and i felt great sleeping and when i woke up. libido has been outrageous today. I'll start lean xtreme monday but just want to compare your dosing. i'm gonna go 2 caps for a week, then 3 caps for the next two weeks then back to 2 caps. at least that's how i dosed my retain2 last time around.
 
Bravoboy said:
ok lean xtreme i read. what are your dosages. i'm gonna start mine on day 10 of PCT, which is 3 days from now. I'm still gainin weight and strength. I put on 10lbs and feel fantastic. I only noticed testicular shrinkage on day 2 of PCT. odd enough, no libido issues. It has been sky high from day 4 to day 7.
i also tried some of ALRI's lean dreams and i felt great sleeping and when i woke up. libido has been outrageous today. I'll start lean xtreme monday but just want to compare your dosing. i'm gonna go 2 caps for a week, then 3 caps for the next two weeks then back to 2 caps. at least that's how i dosed my retain2 last time around.
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I'm using 1 cap on waking, then 1 four hours later, and 1 again later in the evening.

I've been feeling great also! nipples were a bit puffy and sensitive but thats sorting itself out now :)

Having a cheat day today, eating everything under the sun! just away to destroy a belgian bun :D
 
Chub said:
I'm using 1 cap on waking, then 1 four hours later, and 1 again later in the evening.

I've been feeling great also! nipples were a bit puffy and sensitive but thats sorting itself out now :)

Having a cheat day today, eating everything under the sun! just away to destroy a belgian bun :D
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taking nolva this time around has been alot different for me. i've had no puffy nipples this time around. i was also on propadrol last time which was a major cause for that, but i feel great as well. just don't get as much sleep as i would like to.
 
Bravoboy said:
taking nolva this time around has been alot different for me. i've had no puffy nipples this time around. i was also on propadrol last time which was a major cause for that, but i feel great as well. just don't get as much sleep as i would like to.
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did you notice any sides from nolva? i'm taking my 20mg dose in the evening. some nights i'll only get 5-6 hours sleep but then other nights i'll get 8-10 easy :D THe dreams on igf-2 have been pretty good. I only got about 5 hours sleep last night but woke up really refreshed!
 
so today was shoulders. great workout! will update tomorrow on my 2 hour break from work. Stupid spilt shifts again! so yeah tomorrow is a day off! Legs on sunday and some bi's
 
Day 11. 1st of March

Ok so yesterday was a day off due to working all damn day again! I had a good workout on Friday, which were shoulders. Strength was really good, pleased with the workout.

Sleep has been ok. Roughly 7ish hours. Last night I found it pretty hard to get to sleep, I had dosed my Nolvadex really close to bed so that might have been it. Got a bout 4 hours sleep maybe? Woke up really wide awake and felt good most of the day till around 4pm. Couldn’t stop yawning! More RPM please. Only have 7 RPM caps left too :(

Motivation is high! I want rid of the fat!

Pump and Vascularity: I’ve been remaining pretty vascular most days. Palms and forearms. Chest was pretty veiny yesterday.

Stress/Appetite: quite stressed at work on Friday, not much over the weekend. Really tired from working so much.

Mood still ok!

Libido: high

I’ll have to get some more Osteo-sport!

Lethargy/Energy: Not really been lethargic. Tired from working a lot, feet sore. Energy has been good! 2x RPM in the morning works great for energy throughout the day.

Not long back from work. Popped 3 RPM then fell asleep almost straight away lol. Woke up nice and refreshed though and I’m off to do legs and some bi’s. Hours at work are really messing up when I can get to the gym. This Monday and Tuesday will be days off due to spilt shifts! I may get up super early on Tuesday morning and go to chest depending on what time I get to bed on Monday night.

Eating habits have been bad the last couple of days. I’ve been eating really sugary crap!

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Chub said:
did you notice any sides from nolva? i'm taking my 20mg dose in the evening. some nights i'll only get 5-6 hours sleep but then other nights i'll get 8-10 easy :D THe dreams on igf-2 have been pretty good. I only got about 5 hours sleep last night but woke up really refreshed!
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only one side ive noticed so far. had a bad headache during the 6th day on dosage and felt a little light headed after my dose that day. havent' had that since. but i've acutally notices some pubertal gyno gone from the use of the nolva. it's been good to me so far. i've always ran clomid but this isn't too bad.
 
I'll update yesterday when iget home from work. just having a quite bite to eat before heading back to work!
 
ok so sunday night i done some legs and biceps. My quads were feeling rock solid :) Pump in my arms was ok, nothing special!

Libido has been pretty high still along with my mood. Looking forward to chest tomorrow. I'm off work till saturday so plenty time to get eating right again! I've been eating sugary crap like cakes the last 3/4 days! Not good! My shifts at work for the next 2 weeks are looking alright so i'll be hitting the gym early mornings again!

Mood has been good the last few days, cheery! not so short tempered anymore. Mood is good considering i got dumped on sunday night :/ Probably for the best though..still sucks.

I've only got enough RPM left for 2 more work outs :(

Sleep has been a lot better. Waking up more refreshed in the mornings. Getting to sleep has been alright, dosing my SERM in the early evenings. I@m feeling great though, i sometimes wonder if i actually need it, but obviously i don't know whats going on inside my body. Nipples are less puffy now too!

I've been letting my updates slip slightly. I'll be updating a lot more i promise :type:

Got some bulk BCAA and WMS in the post this morning, some xtend coming tomorrow along with some lovely coconut oil! about 2 weeks late, bloody customs!
 
Graglor said:
It's tough fixing meals and workout times with a hectic work schedule. Glad you sticking to it Brother!!
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chub - spend a night making up a huge chili con carne with all the vege and rice in it. Divide it into portions and freeze - perfect bulking food bro :bandit:
 
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