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Can someone give me a clear cut answer on clen dosages and durations for fat loss and dosage and duration when being used for its anti-catabolic effects? Thanks guys
And here you are "trying" to give advice automatically asuming that everyone weighs the same as you and will react to it just like you. Larry f here is trying to get some CORRECT advice and gets conflicting info from people like yourself who don't think before they type. The correct answer would be start with 20mcg a day (a rather safe dosage to start out at) to see how the body reacts to it. Then SLOWLY up the dosage as you get used to it. I mean, you're telling a guy to start with 60mcg because YOU weigh 215lbs. That's good advice bro!sure, start with 20mcg/ed. i just did 60 cause i weigh about 215.
hey, before you get your panties in a knot, chill out. if you check some dosage schedules posted here, they will tell you 60mcg to start with. and if i really "tried" to give him good advice i'd tell im to use the damn search button. it's insensitive pricks like you who think they know it all and flame somebody for giving their opinion that give bodybuilders and weight lifters in general a bad name.And here you are "trying" to give advice automatically asuming that everyone weighs the same as you and will react to it just like you. Larry f here is trying to get some CORRECT advice and gets conflicting info from people like yourself who don't think before they type. The correct answer would be start with 20mcg a day (a rather safe dosage to start out at) to see how the body reacts to it. Then SLOWLY up the dosage as you get used to it. I mean, you're telling a guy to start with 60mcg because YOU weigh 215lbs. That's good advice bro!
Taken clen several times for pre-contest and have found the best way is to take it as below.Take it in the 2 weeks in between.
i am on clen right now, and i feel it is eating some of my muscle. I am eating 500 cals below maintance should i up the cals some?Taken clen several times for pre-contest and have found the best way is to take it as below.
start on 0.02mg 1 tab per day increasing by 0.02mg 1 tab per day till reaching 0.16mg meening 8 tabs,maintain this dose for 14 days then continue the same dose for 14 more days but 2days on and 2 days off theres no need to taper off clen as by the end of the cycle its no longer working! to get the best out of it also take t3 cytomel as clen provents/hinders your bodys production of t3/t4 i also use claratin as this extends the period clen can is efective. hope this is of some use.
If this is your first time using Clen, start at 20mcg and then go up 20mcg each day until your reach 100mcg. If at any time during those increases you experience bad sides, drop down 20mcg on the next day and then the next day try the same amount in which you got the bad sides. If you are still getting bad sides from the amount then drop down 20mcg again and stay at the level until you get to 12 days. On day 13 taper down to half your maximum dose or 60mcg which ever is higher. On day 14 taper down to 40mcg.
Take at least 2 weeks off (or go on an EC stack).
On your next Clen cycle, if you didn't get any bad sides from 100mcg then you can pyramid up to 120mcg and higher doses on cycles after that if there are no sides on previous cycles. 200mcg is probably the highest dose you should ever go up to and that would be after doing a number of clen cycles with little or no sides.
After 14 days, clen starts to loss its effectiveness so a 2 week on, 2 week off cycle is the recommended unless you are stacking it with something like DNP.
T3 without anabolics has a good chance of eating up muscle. Clen IMO opinion is much better than eca. Clen, t3 , and aas is best, but if I could only use 1 it would be clen.I was wondering the same how much weight did you lose? Im going to run a 1-test and 4ad cycle/superdrol and now Im thinking a little bit of clen to stripp some fat off the belly before summer. Im about mid teen bf% only in my loves and stomach no fat anywhere else. Figured my bloodpressure will be thru the roof thou? Any suggestions yea or nea? Do a ECA stack instead? What about T3 instead of clen?
Why in the WORLD would you not only taper your cycle this way, but worse - give someone else the advice to do so?I just finished a clen run today actually. I did five days on, two days off for three weeks. The first week start at 20 mcgs and work your way up in 20 mcg intervals. Notice how hard the sides hit you. If your having trouble handling the side then don't up the dose the next day. The second week you can start a little higher if you want. My cycle looked as follows:
Week 1: 20/40/60/80/100
Week 2: 40/60/80/100/100
Week 3: 60/80/100/100/100
People run clen many different ways, so I'm not going to flat out say that your argument is wrong, but don't say my method was useless, because believe me it wasn't. I researched for several weeks before ever using clen. Some people do 2 weeks on / 2 weeks off. Others will just stay on continuously until they stop getting the effects of clen. However, there is plenty of other people who do the 5 days on / 2 days off method I described.Why in the WORLD would you not only taper your cycle this way, but worse - give someone else the advice to do so?
What good does it do to build your body's tolerance to Clen up to 100mcg in the first week, only to drop it to 40mcg the following? You basically wasted a lot of Clen.
Not to mention, the tapering idea applies throughout the ENTIRE cycle. So for a 21 day cycle of it, you should've done the following:
20/40/60/80/100mcg running 100mcg day 5 through 17, then on day 18, tapering OFF with 80/60/40/20.
However, even in that instance, your receptors basically cause Clen to stop working after two weeks. So not only did you waste a lot of Clen by tapering incorrectly, but you wasted literally the majority of the third week's worth.
To counteract this and force your receptors to remain opened, IF you decide to run it for more than two weeks, every night during week 3, take 50-100mg of Benadryl before going to bed. This will allow you to get one more week on the Clen, hence giving you a beneficial 3 weeks worth.
Apologies if I came off as a jerk, but I hate to see folk giving bad advice to newbs, as I have had such bad advice in the past as a new guy cause me to make some bad choices on a cycle or two.
As far as ramping down, this is argued both ways. Obviously you like to ramp down and are not open to doing it without ramping down. Read around a little more and you will see that I am correct. There are many people who feel that it is pointless to ramp down and I agree. It is very important to ramp up in order to assess your tolerance however.I feel it stays more "effective" in your system. Plus, you are getting less of a pogo, think 33-36 hour halflife. So if you go off for 2 days not a big deal, go off for 2 weeks and you may catch alot more bounce back weight.
Also, you can cut "more and harder" on 5/2 days rather longer 2/2 weeks type cycles.
Before using clen, make sure your training and diet is in order. If you just started working out as your other post said, using clen is foolish in my opinion, especially with 40 lbs to lose. You can lose plenty of weight with proper diet and training. Then, when the fatloss slows add in things to assist you in meeting your goals. The biggest thing is going to be consistency and patience. There are different ways of running jt when you get to that point. 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, or running it straight through, and quite a few other opinions. Start at 20 mcgs and assess your tolerance. Work up to 100-140 mcgs depending on tolerance, in 20 mcg increments. Due to clens halflife(among other things) there is no point tapering off clen. Switching to eca is not a good option either as your receptors will need to clear and you might as well just stay on clen. It is not a magic pill and you really need to be strict with your diet amd traing.HEY GUYS AM LOOKING FOR A CLEAR ANSWER ON THE DOSAGE OF CLEN...
I WANT TO START USING CLEN FOR ( WEIGHT LOSS) AM CURRENTLY DOING A LOT OF CARDIO AND STARTED THE P90X PROGRAM. NOW I WEIGHT 240 LBS AND MY TARGET WEIGHT IS 200 LBS PLEASE ADVISE ME ON HOW I SHOULD USE CLEN AND THE DOSAGE..
THANK YOU.
I could see that. You know what's strange is that I sometimes get lethargic too but it happens when I hit my max dosage. (I don't go higher than 140 mcgs.) I read about the cause of it before but don't recall what it was off hand. It was so bad that I could take it before going to bed and sleep fine. Goes to show that everything whits everyone differently, I guess.i taper off because if I don't i get horrably lethargic.
I meant running it for maybe 6 weeks straight like Dave Palumbo suggests rather than doing a typical 2 week on 2 week off or similar dosing to give receptors a chance to clear.I agree with Jarhead, diet and training is everything. Supplements are cherries on top.
Jarhead, when you said "running it straight through" what did you refer to?
If you run eca or something in between it defeats the purpose of giving your receptors a break. And I still don't agree with tapering it back down. If your going to do 2 on 2 off, I would suggest assessing your tolerance by building up, but then stay at your max dosage thru to the end. Unless you have an issue like lethargy like Texastweeter does or something like that, there really is no need to taper off.im running some clen in the near future, and ive ran it before, years back i ran 21 day cycles, but im going to run something like this
days 1-3 40mcg, let it settle in, then run 4-10 at 80mcg, then 10-12 at 100mcg, day 13 80mcg, day 14 60mcg, then ill do two weeks of another fatburner, something cheap and OTC, then ill prob do another run if i feel i need too like this. 1-2 40mcg 3-4 80mcg 5-12 120mcg (if i feel alright) day 13 @ 100mcg day 14 @ 80mcg.
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