Anyone know what's in these?
ids is shady...move on
I don't think anyone doubts that a lot of their hormonal stuff is the "real deal", just exactly WHAT it is.I don't know alot about this company,but before the ban I bought 2 bottles of the IDS Methyl 1-Test Xtreme and I can tell you for a fact it was the real deal.
Yikes.yeah...im not sayin it wont be real...but i could see a company like this putting their leftover m1-t raws in a bottle labeling it epi and telling people to run it for 6 weeks, just to make a buck...
that is speculation on my part...im not saying they did this...but with all the other crap they pull i wouldnt put it past them...these guys dont care about the consumer one bit...its all about the buck...jmhoyeah...im not sayin it wont be real...but i could see a company like this putting their leftover m1-t raws in a bottle labeling it epi and telling people to run it for 6 weeks, just to make a buck...
remember the Quality whey they had on the market a few years back...turned out to be like 12 grams protein 20 grams sugar when tested....the same guys who sued bsn started testing all ids's prohormones and...holy **** they pulled em all off the market...imagine that....look at their little whey shots...42 grams of collagenic whey isolate...bioavailability value of zero...this is a very shady company and i wouldnt touch any of their products...let alone an otc oral...
that is speculation on my part...im not saying they did this...but with all the other crap they pull i wouldnt put it past them...these guys dont care about the consumer one bit...its all about the buck...jmho
this was years ago, and to be honest the whey shots arent half bad,
collegenic whey protein????
yes...read the label on the shot...it is a collagenic whey isolate...bv of zero...this alone makes them unworthy of my business...why do you say the company has changed...its still the same owner right? and they pulled their prohormones last year...when an outside source started testing their products...this is not the distant past...sorry man..i agree with you on a lot of stuff... but not this ...
i know they have had many problems in the past with label claims and from what i remember that was from 2006yeah i couldnt find any profile on grow tabs either...
good for youI've been using IDS's SmartGainer for a long time now, its a solid product.
it is phera lol17 alpha methyl 17 beta hydroxyl 5 alpha androst 2 ene
is that the chemical that looks like pplex to you?
Methyl sten i believe has superdrol nomenclature with an added double bond between C1 and C2ohhhh alright thanks for helping clear that up crazyfool. i was mistaken.
I'm not too sure but one of their products was methylated clostebol, IDS mass tabs was rumored to be methylated stenbolone.Methyl sten i believe has superdrol nomenclature with an added double bond between C1 and C2
first off gix...its not just one product...why dont you reread the thread...and then after that...mabye do some research on the company your defending...then get back at me...mmmmkayIt is "good for me" so why don't you stop placing generalities on a company over one product.
yes thats exactly what happened :squintfinger: ......no its just that we as consumers seem to have a very short memory....if some company pulls shome shady crap like the quality whey issue...we seem to just forget about it....im not like that...if i see someone ripping people off i will never buy their products and i will tell everyone who will listen not to buy them as well....you are only as good as you word...if you cant be trusted then you dont belong in my world....Why so hostile? did the owner of IDS slip it in your anus while he was banging your pussay?
of course they can make that comparision, pp, sd and hd where sostonol 250. this is pp and hd......the only thing your missing is sd.Just got an email back from Nick at IDS. He said Grow Tabs are to be compared to Sostonol 250.
ALSO, on an interesting note, I asked about their PCT Tabs, and he said yes they can be used as a serm.. Hmm perhaps THATS what Aspire(tm) is!!
AFAIK all the versions are good. I run PCT Tabs twice for PCT and it has not let me down. My buddy just finished PCT tabs after a Methyl-E cycle and he kept all his gains and strength. He got it his Tabs at DA. Its the cheapest on the net, $21/boxAre all versions of their PCT tabs good ? Or just the old ones?
no clue, they wont tell anyone what Aspire(tm) is, so who knows... All I know is ppl who take them alone seem to compare them to Aspire36 which we all know was tainted with viagra bitswhats in their pct tabs that can make them comparable to a serm? do they have resveratrol? because that would be the only legal product that can be compared to a serm....that i know of....but its not as effective...
no.. I'm not saying this at all lol..so because they have viagra in them....they are comparable to a serm?....im looking this up
hehe, well now that they re-released mass tabs, I don't mind em.. I'm making BANK-OLA on ebay from suckers that don't know any better.. and I only share this cus its just now starting to slow down, but talk about overnight CHA CHINGGGGoh i know...i didnt mean to put that on you...but your not the first person ive heard speculate that this is some sort of viagra/old aspire 36 mix.....when i posed the question i figued the response would be its got some ai in their thats super strong....i just dont like this company and my fur gets all ruffled when i hear people talking about their "bad @ss" products...