tim1985
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Marriage:icon_lol:
Marijuana and Bodybuilding
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ari4216
Banned
are you ecto or meso?
you know actually i dont always get hungry, but there are those times where i eat way too much.
ari4216
Banned
and stress
tim1985
Well-known member
Same here man! I don't always chow down when I smoke, bu when I do... well it ain't pretty:lol:
ari4216
Banned
thats why i try to keep a limited supply of ice cream or anything delicious, only one can at a time allowed in the fridge
planetfuzz
Active member
As long as I don't see it I'm fine. Which is why I usually make myself a nice healthy meal and then smoke. Then I have hot food prepared so it's not an option. I usually can't stop once I start. Smoking doesn't make my hungry but if I have one spoonful of ice cream....game over.
Rustysballs
New member
A Ari,I couldn't reply back to your PM
"Nice BRO!, i got Da Buddha,sister cousin to the sivler silvers surfer"
Regards,
ari4216
Cool!I was going to going to get the Buddha,but I got the SSV because I liked the way it looked.
I will be getting some custom glass soon.
I put pics up on the Salvia thread but I guess they took it down.
7th Floor rocks!
Cousin Rusty
"Nice BRO!, i got Da Buddha,sister cousin to the sivler silvers surfer"
Regards,
ari4216
Cool!I was going to going to get the Buddha,but I got the SSV because I liked the way it looked.
I will be getting some custom glass soon.
I put pics up on the Salvia thread but I guess they took it down.
7th Floor rocks!
Cousin Rusty
Theipodpeople
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TexasTitan
Well-known member
tim1985 said:
Could one of you stoners pass tim some better ****? He really doesnt have better things to do than harass me endlessly for...well no real reason. Im sure hell post a laughing smiley and then talk about how Im whining but seriously, hes negged me no less than 5 times now for no real reason. I really dont care about my negative reputation, at all, its the internet and has no standing whatsoever on anything relevant besides making some people feel e-important but this is just getting annoying and childish. Ill bet money he negs me for this too.
kingin23
New member
i used to smoke weed a few times a day. sometimes 6 blunts a day(yea i was a pot head) i noticed it was really affecting me pretty bad...my memory was gone. i was always so lost, very anti-social, and i think i did effect my motivation and strength at the gym...even while cutting down to once a day i still noticed negative effects on me and that is why i decided to stop smoking weed...i know many people who can smoke and be very normal but for me it just made me sooo stupid and slow guess pot is jus not for me...giving salvia a try next week with my boys watched a few videos on youtube and cant wait lol
planetfuzz
Active member
I feel you on that one. It isn't for everybody.
I can't believe TexasTitan is still here and I still can't believe he hasn't gotton that sand out of his vagina.
Omen
Banned
Well I have 3grams left, after I smoke that (today), I'm not smoking again for a bit (months, maybe years).
Went for 24 hours without smoking couple of days ago and noticed that smoking does suppress my aggression a bit which I don't like, kills your killer instinct so to speak. I can tell right now it's relaxing me and that's pissing me off, I love being "on" all the time, not chilled and relaxed and there's good news for that: "Cutler et al also found a rebound effect, with dominant males showing an increase in aggression one week following withdrawal of cannabis. "
Then I looked online for links:
In mice, cannabinoids appear to reduce "attack" behaviour, increase submissive behaviour, the "flight" response to aggression.
"Intruder males" treated with hashish "were more frequently attacked and submission and flight was increased". Ham et al found "THC produced a dose dependent depression of aggression in isolated mice"
while Cutler et al also found a rebound effect, with dominant males showing an increase in aggression one week following withdrawal of cannabis.
In rats, THC (but not CBD) was found to reduce aggressive responses and increase avoidance behaviour in male-male encounters, as well as to reduce predatory aggression. "
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Went for 24 hours without smoking couple of days ago and noticed that smoking does suppress my aggression a bit which I don't like, kills your killer instinct so to speak. I can tell right now it's relaxing me and that's pissing me off, I love being "on" all the time, not chilled and relaxed and there's good news for that: "Cutler et al also found a rebound effect, with dominant males showing an increase in aggression one week following withdrawal of cannabis. "
Then I looked online for links:
In mice, cannabinoids appear to reduce "attack" behaviour, increase submissive behaviour, the "flight" response to aggression.
"Intruder males" treated with hashish "were more frequently attacked and submission and flight was increased". Ham et al found "THC produced a dose dependent depression of aggression in isolated mice"
while Cutler et al also found a rebound effect, with dominant males showing an increase in aggression one week following withdrawal of cannabis.
In rats, THC (but not CBD) was found to reduce aggressive responses and increase avoidance behaviour in male-male encounters, as well as to reduce predatory aggression. "
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ari4216
Banned
Good finds, i find that information on target. But im more moody and less agressive. Also its harder to eat. But these effects will turn to normal after a while, depending on the duration and intesity of your usage.
Omen
Banned
That was my first 24 hrs in over a year
Quarter-half a day, yeah, I'm more on the HIGH END :lol:
2grams left.....
Superdoad
Banned
vaporgenie.com
or
vaporgenie dot com
Check out those, its basically a pipe with a ceramic filter attached to heat the pot.
Oh and too TexasTimmy
I bet you wouldn't talk that much horse **** to any construction workers face. At least we don't have all these wannabe wranglers out here, playing dress up cowboys and indians like children.
Nice way to burn the working man that built up this country, so that you can sit in that desk and talk ****.
NORCAL Rules!
PS> sorry that texas guys just a d bag
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vaporgenie dot com
Check out those, its basically a pipe with a ceramic filter attached to heat the pot.
Oh and too TexasTimmy
I bet you wouldn't talk that much horse **** to any construction workers face. At least we don't have all these wannabe wranglers out here, playing dress up cowboys and indians like children.
Nice way to burn the working man that built up this country, so that you can sit in that desk and talk ****.
NORCAL Rules!
PS> sorry that texas guys just a d bag
Joshua86
Member
In moderation, I wouldn't worry about an increase in estrogen. But that's the key - moderation. I've seen guys in the gym who look great, physique wise, who smoked on a regular basis. Yeah, I smoke occasionally and it's never hampered my performance in the gym. Now if you're doing it all the time and making smoking a priority, that's a different story. So I think if you're diet is good, and your training is good, a little smoke every once in a while isn't going to hurt anything.
And as far as killing brain cells; there's no good evidence to support that, and even so, it would take an excessive amount of THC to cause permanent damage to the brain. Also, paranoia, anxiety and stress are all relative and depends on your mood while you're smoking. If you're in a relaxed situation, smoking can be very enjoyable. And hey, I don't know about some of you, but I like to have fun every once in a while. I strongly believe that alcohol does way more to hamper bodybuilding aspirations than marijuana. When I do smoke, I do it to take the edge off, relax and have fun, not to self induce anxiety and paranoia
. The legality issue is another thing all together and you have to take your own risks and make your own judgments about that. Personally it blows my mind how alcohol and tobacco are legal while marijuana isn't. Since you hold in marijuana smoke, while you don't necessarily with tobacco, you're probably causing more lung damage on the short term. As in, one joint will do more lung damage than one cigarette (in my opinion). However, you usually don't smoke near the the same volume. For instance, one person might smoke one or two joints a week, while a smoker will smoke a whole pack or more in a week (or less, depending). So in the end, I think you're still going to see more lung damage caused by tobacco than with marijuana. It's all relative to volume consumed over a certain time. And as far as alcohol goes, well, I'm sure most of you know the effects thereof on the body. So in my opinion, marijuana, if done safely and in moderation, is much less harmful than getting hammered on a regular basis or smoking cigarettes every day.
And if you have a vaporizer, you don't have to worry about inhaling smoke. They should just legalize marijuana but you have to use a vaporizer
But the key is moderation. It's easy to start smoking all the time, but if you just want to do it once or twice a week, then I don't think you're going to see any problems. As long as you don't get caught!
Force of Green
Well-known member
Sounds like a good time Charley.
charley
Member
There is no truth that THC lowers your test levels..... everything written negative about herb is just some more American FEAR FACTOR..............................they like us all to be scared .....
JudoJosh
Pro Virili Parte
look back at my post there are 2 studies that show it lowers test, I didnt read the studies so I dont know by how much but it does... although I dont think it is enough for someone to notice or to have a signiffent effect on you
Omen
Banned
These studies are nowhere near reliable.
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So let's look at this "study":
-To assess the effects of drug and alcohol abuse (DAA) on the physical changes and hormones of puberty in adolescents.
-26 males (13 5/12-22 years) enrolled in a drug rehabilitation program were examined.
- The mean duration of DAA(DRUG AND ALCOHOL ABUSE!) was 3.7 years, with marijuana and alcohol being the most frequently abused substances.
The MOST FREQUENTLY USED ONES??? WHAT OTHER DRUGS WERE USED? WTF!!!???!!!
And this goes on and on and on, all f**king BS, we all know that alcohol lowers testosterone, this is a study about the effects of ALCOHOL AND MARIJUANA and whatever other drugs they were using, for 3.7 years!!! 3.7 f**king years in mutherf**king adolescents in puberty for f**ks sake, where hormones fluctuate like crazy.
F**K that study, completely worthless.
AND LOOK AT THIS ONE BELOW!!!!!
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A f**king re-analysis? they could be using the study above or other studies for f**ks sake, f**k both studies, both f**king useless.
Josh, if you wanna look at a study, just copy and paste the title in google search, that's what I did.
Also, just because someone said a study proves X has a negative relationship with Y, doesn't mean the methods used are applicable or "normal" and commonly used.
You have to dissect the study, challenge it, examine every single aspect and then make your own conclusion, does X really have a negative relationship with Y? Or only in those certain circumstances cited in the studies that do not really apply to 99% of people reading them?
ari4216
Banned
Another informative hit you in the face post by Omen.:thumbsup:
Good thoughts a lil too much f----- for me though:lol:
ari4216
Banned
ari4216
Banned
we need more people like you on this board:thumbsup:and on earth
Peaceful Negotiator, thats what you are
DreamOfWeight
Registered User
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BodyWizard
Registered User
Gotta give Omen props: he's pungently illustrated the single biggest problem with "marijuana research".
To break it down in more linear fashion, cannabis is illegal (duh), and this means that ALL research of *any* kind has to be approved by the Feds...who will not approve any research intended to show that cannabis is harmless and useful.
For more than 40 years, the only approved research has been for the purpose of finding out what's bad about it (flip back to Hank Vangut's catalog of myths & consider them in this light). And when you think of it, this is the EXACT OPPOSITE of true research, in which the point is to uncover truth, not to cobble together a pretext to justify unpopular government action. I think it telling that, in the face of so much research supporting the benign nature of the plant, the most they can come up with is FUD, not meaningful data.
A sad side-effect of this is that most real research on the subject has gone out-of-print decades ago & is virtually unavailable. If you can find it, I suggest reading "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" by Jack Herer (and no, this book is NOT my main source: most of my books on the subject have been lost or stolen over the years & have proven impossible to replace (I spent ~ten years doing actual, y'know, *research* on the subject, back in the day...)).
To break it down in more linear fashion, cannabis is illegal (duh), and this means that ALL research of *any* kind has to be approved by the Feds...who will not approve any research intended to show that cannabis is harmless and useful.
For more than 40 years, the only approved research has been for the purpose of finding out what's bad about it (flip back to Hank Vangut's catalog of myths & consider them in this light). And when you think of it, this is the EXACT OPPOSITE of true research, in which the point is to uncover truth, not to cobble together a pretext to justify unpopular government action. I think it telling that, in the face of so much research supporting the benign nature of the plant, the most they can come up with is FUD, not meaningful data.
A sad side-effect of this is that most real research on the subject has gone out-of-print decades ago & is virtually unavailable. If you can find it, I suggest reading "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" by Jack Herer (and no, this book is NOT my main source: most of my books on the subject have been lost or stolen over the years & have proven impossible to replace (I spent ~ten years doing actual, y'know, *research* on the subject, back in the day...)).
JudoJosh
Pro Virili Parte
I never read the study but I trust Dr. Pasquale as a honest dude so I just assumed ,... thats funny though cuz in his book he goes on saying how supplement companies will cite studies and twist them around for their benefit and an example he gives is a company says their product increases testerone in 9 out of 10 people, but the study was actually done on post menopause women and on pre menopause women and on men it had no effect... so he talks about how bad companies are for twisting facts for their own agenda, and then he does it? wtf? lol..
I kno back in the 50s there when weed was first illegal and said to cause insanity and murder there was a clinical study done by doctors and proved weed to be harmelss.. I wonder if thatis still floating around I know it was commisned by Mayor LaGuardia of New York
I kno back in the 50s there when weed was first illegal and said to cause insanity and murder there was a clinical study done by doctors and proved weed to be harmelss.. I wonder if thatis still floating around I know it was commisned by Mayor LaGuardia of New York
ari4216
Banned
most of the good current studies are being done overseas where weed is legal, or atleast legal for research purposes.
Cant read them though.
Sweden,Germany, and Israel come to mind.
Also in California, studies are being done.
But no one researches the safety of marijuanna anymore. Any scientist with knowledge on the subject would already know this.
Cant read them though.
Sweden,Germany, and Israel come to mind.
Also in California, studies are being done.
But no one researches the safety of marijuanna anymore. Any scientist with knowledge on the subject would already know this.
charley
Member
Yo omen.....good work bro..i have to respect that...but i'm in the same school as Bodywizard...that being OLD SCHOOL, born in the era of LSD, we were told that our babies would be born without limbs,eyes ,brains,none of it even remotely true..i was told in school that beating-off, would cause hair to grow on the palms of your hands,,,,,all i'm saying is don't beleive everything you read.......when people do research looking for an answer they want ,the always find it....SHOES TO FIT THE FEET,,,,,
i think the older you get ,,,the more you doubt.....
i beleive in a higher spirit.....not some organized GOD.....
i feel that the spirit of man is all we really have to live by....
ari4216.......thanks dude.......
i think the older you get ,,,the more you doubt.....
i beleive in a higher spirit.....not some organized GOD.....
i feel that the spirit of man is all we really have to live by....
ari4216.......thanks dude.......
Force of Green
Well-known member
Thanks holmes
Reefer was one of the compounds that I could really give 2 $hits less about, but I come in here to see the conversation and debate. I'm more interested in other substances that increase productivity and the quality of life. MJ is more for people that are looking for an escape. None-the-less, I have had some white widow grass a few times over the past couple weeks when I get home from work and want to unwind and mellow out.
JudoJosh
Pro Virili Parte
WHAT!?! You mean this isn't true? I dont need to wear gloves to prevent the wolfman hand syndrome?
Omen
Banned
Era of LSD? Remember Owsley Stanley? I just saw some posts from him last year and was reading sh*t on his website, very interesting guy to say the least! I followed his dietary advice (after validating his claims) for 1 year, guy knows his sh*t! :thumbsup:
I quit smoking for the time being, I smoked (quarter/day) for a year, I think MJ is very useful and helpful, it helped me a lot, realize and become enlightened about certain things in my life.
All the things that I wouldn't normally think about, do when not smoking, helped shape me a lot last year and now that I quit, I can tell a difference from how I view/think about things compared to a year ago and it's a very positive change.
I don't believe anything I read unless I verify it from a verified source to begin with, so much lies being told and published everyday, some that even I believed, you can't bring someone to be enlightened, they must reach whatever their enlightenment when they're ready, some people will never reach that and if they ever do, there's always more to be found.
Time waits for no man.
charley
Member
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''I don't believe anything I read unless I verify it from a verified source to begin with, .............''
thats what i'm talking about.....exactly who's ''verified source'' are we reading......the goverment's...the church's....the drug industry..... the guy who lives next door......
much respect.....................
''I don't believe anything I read unless I verify it from a verified source to begin with, .............''
thats what i'm talking about.....exactly who's ''verified source'' are we reading......the goverment's...the church's....the drug industry..... the guy who lives next door......
much respect.....................
Force of Green
Well-known member
That's good that you got something out of your phase and don't use the shotty excuse "drugs make me a better person!" and keep using it. I gained a lot of knowledge about myself from using methamphetamine and would never touch the $hit again, but atleast I learned everything I could from it.
ari4216
Banned
I have recently took a break as of now for the foreseeable future.
But Marijuanna is a medicine,not a drug. It helps people, it doesnt mess them up. All the side effects are very short term.
The only side effect ive experienced is Paranoia about 3 times, thats it. Only when ive gotten way to high. Like when you cant control your mind as well,when thoughts take their own way.
But paranoia also exists in a paranoid state of mind, which is why im stopping,because im moving into a paranoid environment.
The estrogen is also annoying,but it goes away.
Side effect: laziness is very probable, if you do it all day. But again, there are very high functioning stoners, however, usuauly they cant get normal jobs.
Its not addicting at all, but if its there, it will be gone, if nones there, i dont think about it.
But really, the medication has opened my mind up. I have relized all the lies, as omen said, all the crap that we were brainwashed as children.
I will return to it, in due time.
Months, it could be years, but it will always have a place in my heart, my dear girlfriend Mary Jane.
But again Mary Jane is best used in moderation, since i find all day sessions too much, and everyday usage makes it to be less fun then when i first tried it.
Its really best on a every other day schedule, so you can enjoy the full potential.
But Marijuanna is a medicine,not a drug. It helps people, it doesnt mess them up. All the side effects are very short term.
The only side effect ive experienced is Paranoia about 3 times, thats it. Only when ive gotten way to high. Like when you cant control your mind as well,when thoughts take their own way.
But paranoia also exists in a paranoid state of mind, which is why im stopping,because im moving into a paranoid environment.
The estrogen is also annoying,but it goes away.
Side effect: laziness is very probable, if you do it all day. But again, there are very high functioning stoners, however, usuauly they cant get normal jobs.
Its not addicting at all, but if its there, it will be gone, if nones there, i dont think about it.
But really, the medication has opened my mind up. I have relized all the lies, as omen said, all the crap that we were brainwashed as children.
I will return to it, in due time.
Months, it could be years, but it will always have a place in my heart, my dear girlfriend Mary Jane.
But again Mary Jane is best used in moderation, since i find all day sessions too much, and everyday usage makes it to be less fun then when i first tried it.
Its really best on a every other day schedule, so you can enjoy the full potential.
charley
Member
yo ari........ i shouldn't promote smoking .... its more that i feel like i'm defending the use..... it bugs me that people that don't use certain chemicals..push thier opinions on the rest of us......as well as relegious and political ideologies ....i.myself come out of 20years of drug abuse....a lot of my old friends that had the same problems can't smoke or drink, or even be around people using,i understand that... but for me i look at smoking reefer as the same as coffee or tea...i also drink some beer....nothing hard only beer...i think that because i'm older now that i don't obsess so much....at times i think i'm trying to say that you shouldn't be afraid of living.....i hope that i'm not confussing people with my rantings.....peace...
ari4216
Banned
no i understand what ur saying actually
But..
If MJ was legal, i would be promoting it.
On a non-medical usage, moderation is key. I hate these stupid pot commercials they have on tv now. People should be taught about the natural herbs of the earth and how and when to use them. What to avoid, obviously drugs like methamphetamine,ectasy,cocaine have no use. (opiods have a great use in pain management though)
If i was a doctor , id be prescribing this, to replace instead of the shitload of pharmaceutical chemicals being prescribed.
The different cannabinoids have a wide range of curing capabilites, namely sleep for Indica, depression for sativa, so many more. Cancer patients,aids patients. So many freakin uses, but its illegal.
planetfuzz
Active member
Wow,there are a lot of good opinions and view points here.
I really like what you said Omen. I am sure I have no been smoking as long as as much as you but I've been smoking for almost a year and a half. Sometimes 3 or 4 times a day and I've gone up to a month with out it.
When I first started using it I did it a lot. It was the best thing. Lately though it's not been as much fun. I'm not getting a tolerance to it or anything. I still get high but it's not the same.
I think what you said about enlightenment has a lot of truth to it. There was a time were me smoking was very beneficial to me. It helped me stop drinking so damn much and kind of calm down. I've actually matured more in the past year and a half I've been smoking than any other time in my life.
Smoking kind of allowed me to take a step back and realize a lot of my destructive habits I picked up in college like binge drinking and strange ass wasn't all it was cracked up to be.
I kind of feel like me and mary jane had an amazing relationship for the past year and a half but it might be better if we just went our separate ways. I'm not saying I wont call her up for a hook up now and then.
It is certainly obvious that the whole view of marijuana is pretty f*cked up in america. I never realized how much we really were brain washed as kids. Anybody remember D.A.R.E.? Haha.
National Geographic actually did an amazing documentary on weed. They showed a boy in Israel (where marijuana research is much much better) who had a bone marrow transplant. They administered certain dosages and the results were amazing. He said he gained weight because his appetite was up. His stomach pain and nausea were gone. I am pretty sure they administered it orally so it's not like he was taking bong rips or anything.
I really like what you said Omen. I am sure I have no been smoking as long as as much as you but I've been smoking for almost a year and a half. Sometimes 3 or 4 times a day and I've gone up to a month with out it.
When I first started using it I did it a lot. It was the best thing. Lately though it's not been as much fun. I'm not getting a tolerance to it or anything. I still get high but it's not the same.
I think what you said about enlightenment has a lot of truth to it. There was a time were me smoking was very beneficial to me. It helped me stop drinking so damn much and kind of calm down. I've actually matured more in the past year and a half I've been smoking than any other time in my life.
Smoking kind of allowed me to take a step back and realize a lot of my destructive habits I picked up in college like binge drinking and strange ass wasn't all it was cracked up to be.
I kind of feel like me and mary jane had an amazing relationship for the past year and a half but it might be better if we just went our separate ways. I'm not saying I wont call her up for a hook up now and then.
It is certainly obvious that the whole view of marijuana is pretty f*cked up in america. I never realized how much we really were brain washed as kids. Anybody remember D.A.R.E.? Haha.
National Geographic actually did an amazing documentary on weed. They showed a boy in Israel (where marijuana research is much much better) who had a bone marrow transplant. They administered certain dosages and the results were amazing. He said he gained weight because his appetite was up. His stomach pain and nausea were gone. I am pretty sure they administered it orally so it's not like he was taking bong rips or anything.
Knowbull
Well-known member
Got linkage or an addy for owsleys site? Thanks
Force of Green
Well-known member
I agree about some points... actually almost all the points that are made here. It is a medicine and it is a drug. For a moment, I think maybe we should stop classifying some of these compounds and focus on their actiona and their meanings/uses.
SWIM says he uses weed on a daily basis. SWIM has researched into daily use of weed and found it to be beneficial to many, so SWIM will keep toking in his bullet a few times throughout the day, every day. SWIM is not addicted.... blah blah blah.
Don't justify your addiction or your current status of your use or abuse, whatever. We're all addicts, so we may as well skip the b/s and stick to the fcuking science.
ari4216
Banned
I agree about some points... actually almost all the points that are made here. It is a medicine and it is a drug. For a moment, I think maybe we should stop classifying some of these compounds and focus on their actiona and their meanings/uses.
SWIM says he uses weed on a daily basis. SWIM has researched into daily use of weed and found it to be beneficial to many, so SWIM will keep toking in his bullet a few times throughout the day, every day. SWIM is not addicted.... blah blah blah.
Don't justify your addiction or your current status of your use or abuse, whatever. We're all addicts, so we may as well skip the b/s and stick to the fcuking science.
It can be an addiction, but there are two types, physical and mental.
Its really no big deal to stop,even if your doing it on a daily basis.
Coffe is addicting too but everyone does that.
I understand your point, That im trying to hide that fact that im addicted to it?
Not in a classical extreme sense,
But yeah, it fairly addicting because it makes you feel SO good.
Tobacco is much more addictive than MJ could ever be. and ive tried it, but i doesnt make me FEEL SO good, ((but actually tobacoo is pretty nice if you only use it occasional.(esp Cigars))
I guess what im trying to say maybe, is that MJ is closer to Coffe, than anything else. I know that sounds pretty stupid. Buts thats how i feel on the subject. Its such a benign addiction.
In reallity, everyones "addicted" to something.
I am also addicted to bodybuilding as well, but it doesnt impact my life negatively.:head:
You could say that sex is addicted as well.:lol:
My opinion is getting pretty drawn out, but basically im trying to say there are benign and harmful addictions.
(Yeah, MJ can become harmful if it impacts your life negatively, but this is pretty rare, and Stoner,(not me) people who toke all day, are very happy with their life, much more so, than all pain and suffering that occurs with human beings right now:think
Imo, were just having a discussion not an arugment right? Just wanted to be clear, sometimes i dont relize im in an arguement sometimes.
Peace bro
Omen
Banned
Those might be "verified" for most people, but none of em should even be allowed to publish anything for the next 1000 years, these 3 entities have ruined this planet.
Good to have you here!
Well drugs ARE making me a better person! :lol:
I'm using Ephedrine and Caffeine right now, lost almost 30lbs in almost 30 days(2 more days for 30days, 28.4lbs loss) so that's making me a better person.
I have nothing against drugs, despite what I have said or may say in the future, this is just my opinion, I don't know what's good for people, I don't know anything about anyone's life, I only know what's good for me.
I use all the information from all sources, analyze it, discard what I think is useless, keep what's useful and implement it if I think it's helpful.
MJ is one of the safest drugs known to mankind and has many benefits, cost:benefit ratio is excellent, especially since it can be made into Cannabutter without any impact on lung capacity and used on anything like regular butter. Invalid Link Removed Invalid Link Removed
All I know is that for me, now I don't want to use it. Will I use it in the future? If I want to yes, but now, I have no desire to do so.
Planetfuzz,
I started out smoking Hash, didn't really like it that much, but I smoked about 5 times a week, then I found MJ....sweet love
Yeah, now, when I get "there" it's just.....different, it helped me and now it's "mission" is accomplished, I know what I need to know and I think how I need to think, thanks for the help, maybe we'll meet again down the road like you said!
I wrote a paper on DARE in college, students who are exposed to DARE are more likely to use MJ than students who aren't exposed to DARE :lol:
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His essay's are very interesting!
Even if he is addicted, what's the problem with that? other than the possible lung issues for athletes, what's the problem with being addicted to MJ?
Millions of American are addicted to caffeine, which is more addictive than MJ, notice I didn't say Tobacco or Alcohol which are destructive, unlike the prior.
Even if they are "addicted" who are we to tell them how to live their lives, people must reach their conclusions on their own. As much as I can, I try to offer my advice only when I'm asked, other than that, I keep my mouth shut and even if I'm asked, I don't give advice to everyone.
planetfuzz
Active member
Planetfuzz,
I started out smoking Hash, didn't really like it that much, but I smoked about 5 times a week, then I found MJ....sweet love
I thought hash was pretty much just keef. The high is different?
Yeah! Exactly.
That is really interesting. Doesn't surprise me though. If you tell kids not to do something they are probably going to do it. I heard a new anti-marijuana commercial on the radio today which was absurd. Invalid Link Removed I hate the end. You have disappointed everyone you are close to? What kind of f*cked up **** is that? Sleepy,lazy,and worthless??? :frustrate
Marijuana is about as addictive as a really good video game.
So just a random fact here I was looking around for info on google and came across this:
"In Vietnam, where cannabis grows wild and free, people rarely smoke it themselves. Instead they feed it to their pigs, who get the serious munchies. The result is that the farmers produce some very fat, and very chilled out, pigs."
That is awesome! Haha.
ACSlayer
Member
The difference between medicine and poison is the dose.
I myself have just completed four years of college while working 40+ hours a week in moderately stressful job (hotels). I also workout 3-4 days a week and follow a strict diet. I have also smoked for the entire duration. It all comes down to personal responsibility. If you already lack the will to do what is required of you daily, then MJ is not something you should even consider. I laugh outright at the sterotype stoner--silently glued to the couch with nothing to contribute to society. There are individuals like that and they deserve the ridicule they receive. However, I have found that to be the minority of smokers. It is sad that propaganda created nearly sixty years ago is still allowed to exist today...are we really that close minded?
Compare MJ to steroids and the situations are parallel. Steroids, used responsibly are of great benefit to many individuals. However, the word "steroid" is so taboo that even those prescribed hormonal drugs may be looked down upon. The view of society at large does not negate the therapeutic benefits of the drug. Again, the key factor is personal responsibility and deciding for yourself what is medicine and what is poison.
Sorry--End Rant.
I myself have just completed four years of college while working 40+ hours a week in moderately stressful job (hotels). I also workout 3-4 days a week and follow a strict diet. I have also smoked for the entire duration. It all comes down to personal responsibility. If you already lack the will to do what is required of you daily, then MJ is not something you should even consider. I laugh outright at the sterotype stoner--silently glued to the couch with nothing to contribute to society. There are individuals like that and they deserve the ridicule they receive. However, I have found that to be the minority of smokers. It is sad that propaganda created nearly sixty years ago is still allowed to exist today...are we really that close minded?
Compare MJ to steroids and the situations are parallel. Steroids, used responsibly are of great benefit to many individuals. However, the word "steroid" is so taboo that even those prescribed hormonal drugs may be looked down upon. The view of society at large does not negate the therapeutic benefits of the drug. Again, the key factor is personal responsibility and deciding for yourself what is medicine and what is poison.
Sorry--End Rant.
Force of Green
Well-known member
I shouldn't get annoyed while I read my fellow addicts talk about using drugs therapeudically. I can put good arguments for using cocaine in 'therapeudic' proportions and I can argue great points on a nice daily regimen of meth... in 'medicinal' doses of course
charley
Member
yo force............easy big guy........i don't think anybody is talking about 'coke or meth'.......i'm trusting all the guys that go to the trouble to read these posts,understand we are soley speaking about weed.......for all drugs except weed the old 'AA' saying that 'one is to many and a thousand's not enough' is my mantra.......of course i'm not counting coffee,tea..stuff like that...
Force of Green
Well-known member
What's good Charley? Maybe I need a J
I just felt the need to debate with those who have amazing, outstanding justifications and explanations & reasoning behind his/her smoking habits. I'm not mad at Ari or anyone in particular, I'm just saying that although I am in agreement with blazing a few trees isn't going to significantly hurt anyone, I also think that the topic at hand should not be strayed from: MJ and Bodybuilding. We all have our vices and we all have our tastes/distastes. Ya know?