SilentBob187
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wow...
Israeli jets target Gaza tunnels
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ari4216
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obvious.(expell them from the country)(what you think i meant kill them all?:lol
It might seem like im being a little bit racist here, but totally the opposite.
I hate racists,any type. Arabs,whites,blacks, whatever. Theres many different types of racists.
Id equate the Hamas(most palestiniants to the Nazis)
The only difference between them is that germany actually had power, and hamas can really do nothing but be an annoyance and emotional distress.
Iran on the other hand,maybe a different story.
end rant.
no further opinion.
SilentBob187
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Zero V
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Biblicaly speaking this is foretold. The Jewish are fulfilling prophecies. This was warned of in a book, that is plenty old enough.
The Ban of Heram (not sure if I have the second part of that right) was where in the old testament they were to kill every person in each area they took over, destroy their homes, and kill the livestock, burn the fields, and then do it themselves.
They only got the nation they have now because of the worldwide distaste of them during and after WWII.
War will rage over there until the end. And technically, as someone else stated their war is the one that brings the end.
Most Americans think Israel is a good ally. Bah...
I do agree they should be blowing up hamas and his men, but they themselves are just beasts attacking another beast. There is no innocent save for the civilians who have to face either nation.
The Ban of Heram (not sure if I have the second part of that right) was where in the old testament they were to kill every person in each area they took over, destroy their homes, and kill the livestock, burn the fields, and then do it themselves.
They only got the nation they have now because of the worldwide distaste of them during and after WWII.
War will rage over there until the end. And technically, as someone else stated their war is the one that brings the end.
Most Americans think Israel is a good ally. Bah...
I do agree they should be blowing up hamas and his men, but they themselves are just beasts attacking another beast. There is no innocent save for the civilians who have to face either nation.
Zero V
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also agreed. AS long as it stays appropriate lol.
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Imeniaan
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Basically, Hamas started firing rockets in a civilian population and Israel just let hell break loose on EVERYONE!:thumbsup:
I'm not really Pro-Israel, especially after I heard about the USS Liberty a few years back, but you just gotta admire how they don't give a f**k about anyone and if attacked, they attack and kill at least 2 times as more people as the other side and as the lady in the video said "It's justifiable" I'm sure Nancy would say that too....:lol:
Anyone remember the 1983 US Marine Barrack bombings in Lebanon ? where also, French Soldiers were killed?
The US NEVER launched jets in retaliation of the bombings, but the French, out of all people, conducted air raids on suspected targets and civilians.
The US can be a P.C. pussy sometimes.
A big thumbs up for death and destruction???
You sick bastard!
DR.D
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Yes. The Bible suggests that it's a futile distraction to argue the 'wrongness' of either side strictly, because all these events are basically predetermined. If it's starting to unfold whether we like it or not, it's time to just accept that it is what it is and keep watch.
The Bible warns though, God's coming judgments are in part a response to the blood of all these innocent civilians and saints. It's a very good idea to stay blameless and avoid getting innocent blood on your hands in the days to come. Whether you believe in God's wrath or not, karma is real and universal.
jakellpet
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Distaste? DISTASTE??!
If you want to know what I find distasteful, try the Bigotry and Ignorance that runs deep in your veins. You spread it around like an infected hooker.
I am not Jewish and such a remark pisses me off!
You sure know how to make people hate your very existence...
negged.
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jamesb2525
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I have a lot of respect for the Israelis and I wish the American military would take a few notes from them…you have to be a complete idiot to mess with them
Zero V
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Both sides are cruel, and I think they both enjoy harming civilians, or can care less if they are murdered, raped, used as a shield, etc.
I guess now that wars are fought between evil and evil, and the side of good is taking a neutral part.....its going to get ruff.
Zero V
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Yes distaste from the "world" in the early "post WWII era"
That is straight from a history book, I didnt say I had an issue with them. Humanities 113. Germany, Russia, Italy, France all wanted to ignore or push out Jewish peoples. Some countries were still murdering them. They petitioned the newly formed UN for a land to make their own, and claimed that they had a blood right to a land of their own.
The UN granted that, and supported them taking the land from some one else.... Thus they have their own country again.
Much of the world hated them at that time, save for maybe the allied nations(America nad Britain had no issues with em). Today they are accepted everywhere but the country they wanted which is in constant war.
I was quoting history my friend, maybe if you knew some you wouldn't have jumped conclusions....
I dont have issues with Jewish, and you sure know how to make people think your a deusch (well me)
ignorant. negged.
I admit possibility that I didnt quote it as a history lesson and those who study history a bit less would not understand.
Edit: Actually this is really dumb, you got upset because I mentioned the worlds viewpoint from that time period, and jumped on me because they were like that back then? I gave you more credit for intelligence...
And your post was about as qualified as a toked up 15 year old's. At least you speak like one.
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Omen
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Hey, some people find happiness in a snickers bar, I find it in dead bodies.
(not eating dead bodies, just knowing they're dead.)
Imeniaan
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Well, then in few days from now you will be having the time of your life when the Israeli's enter Gaza in their Merkava's and return to Israel in dozens and dozens of bodybags.
Omen
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And that would make me feel bad because? :think:
Zero V
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My friend. I would be worrying less about the dozens of body bags in that country, and the thousands that will someday line your own street. EVERY nation falls eventually. America, is no exception.
jakellpet
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It sounds like you get your history books from the same store that pimps Creationism textbooks to schools...
in any case, I would rather be an opinionated deuschthan some neo-facist religious nutbag any day of the week.
ari4216
Banned
i think a poll should be added, pro palestinian or pro israeli.
and i want to get to racism.
Jewish people are not a race.
Jews are called this way because of their RELIGION.
A lot of Israelis are jewish but they not religious. ie they could care less about the religious conflict that is taking place.
To explain further,
A jewish person from israel is a lot different culture than one from america, ect.
also i really dont understand modern racism against Jews.
It stems down from thousands of years of persecution. People hate them for some unknown reason really, just probally because theyre different.
The whole problem in actuality is religion. Im gonna say, might offend some, religions were created by people. Religion is one of the main causes for war over the centuries. Not in modern times so much anymore. To me a see a downward trend in in religion based wars.Why? Because i think science is has begun to shed light on modern countries. You see i completely understand the creation of religions. I have thought about this much. Religions were created to explain that people have a purpose, and that the world doesnt end after death. I did an experiment and tried to be atheist, but it made me nervous. I began to think id eventually die, i became a little depressed. In the future the truth will be revealed,no doubt.
And lets get back to the palestianians. Yes they can use rockets and turrets, but theyre culture is a blast from the past. The brainwashed to believe in the Islamic relgion. Actually i think most people are brainwashed into beleiving relgions. Again i think most religions were created by humans. Why are there three monotheistic religions.
I also want to point out again, that the palestinians dont likes Israelis/Jews but they also hate Americans too.
Israel is the only democratic county in the middle east
and for info about myself, ill spread, im jewish, and ive been Jewish my whole life. I was actuallly very religious until about 2 years ago.I went to a Jewish school for over 10 years, and i know a lot about Jewish people,Nazis, and the middle eastern conflict.Right now, if someone asked i wouldnt say im Jewish, because there are a number of people than can be racist. So its just annoying for me. I understand a lot of people are ignorant so i just ignore this now, but i used to get pissed. But this i different discussion.
100 percent I believe in God!:dance:
there u go jake,hahaha
and i want to get to racism.
Jewish people are not a race.
Jews are called this way because of their RELIGION.
A lot of Israelis are jewish but they not religious. ie they could care less about the religious conflict that is taking place.
To explain further,
A jewish person from israel is a lot different culture than one from america, ect.
also i really dont understand modern racism against Jews.
It stems down from thousands of years of persecution. People hate them for some unknown reason really, just probally because theyre different.
The whole problem in actuality is religion. Im gonna say, might offend some, religions were created by people. Religion is one of the main causes for war over the centuries. Not in modern times so much anymore. To me a see a downward trend in in religion based wars.Why? Because i think science is has begun to shed light on modern countries. You see i completely understand the creation of religions. I have thought about this much. Religions were created to explain that people have a purpose, and that the world doesnt end after death. I did an experiment and tried to be atheist, but it made me nervous. I began to think id eventually die, i became a little depressed. In the future the truth will be revealed,no doubt.
And lets get back to the palestianians. Yes they can use rockets and turrets, but theyre culture is a blast from the past. The brainwashed to believe in the Islamic relgion. Actually i think most people are brainwashed into beleiving relgions. Again i think most religions were created by humans. Why are there three monotheistic religions.
I also want to point out again, that the palestinians dont likes Israelis/Jews but they also hate Americans too.
Israel is the only democratic county in the middle east
and for info about myself, ill spread, im jewish, and ive been Jewish my whole life. I was actuallly very religious until about 2 years ago.I went to a Jewish school for over 10 years, and i know a lot about Jewish people,Nazis, and the middle eastern conflict.Right now, if someone asked i wouldnt say im Jewish, because there are a number of people than can be racist. So its just annoying for me. I understand a lot of people are ignorant so i just ignore this now, but i used to get pissed. But this i different discussion.
100 percent I believe in God!:dance:
there u go jake,hahaha
ari4216
Banned
i agree! with that, every nation falls someday, but ill be dead by then, so i dont care:dance:
jakellpet
Banned
oh, oh that's all right then. For a second there I thought you were implying.... no, no, nevermind
ari4216
Banned
you know i think this thread is turning into an anonymous thread!!!
By the way i didnt mean to offend anyone about religion, you think what you think, i think what i think.
last tidbit, i just had to take out of the bag.
(keep in mind, i think my own religion was fabricated,so dont try think im trying to start an argument here)
Jesus was Jewish, and he was actually studying to become a Rabbi, but the elder Rabbis upset him, so he went on his own way, and laid the footprint to create a massive religion greater than any other currently,Christianity.
Another side comment, i dont blame people for being racist, Racism is simply ignorance coupled with culture, that has been inbred for thousands of years.
I was watched this documentary on some chanell with this tribe, and these people were for the same damn tribe and they hated each other.
Racism is clearly a form of brainwashing as well.
At the same note many time racism is used as a scapegoat, because a person,persons, or country is so screwed up, they want to screw other people up.
And then other people are just born as evil, some people are genetically evil as well.
By the way i didnt mean to offend anyone about religion, you think what you think, i think what i think.
last tidbit, i just had to take out of the bag.
(keep in mind, i think my own religion was fabricated,so dont try think im trying to start an argument here)
Jesus was Jewish, and he was actually studying to become a Rabbi, but the elder Rabbis upset him, so he went on his own way, and laid the footprint to create a massive religion greater than any other currently,Christianity.
Another side comment, i dont blame people for being racist, Racism is simply ignorance coupled with culture, that has been inbred for thousands of years.
I was watched this documentary on some chanell with this tribe, and these people were for the same damn tribe and they hated each other.
Racism is clearly a form of brainwashing as well.
At the same note many time racism is used as a scapegoat, because a person,persons, or country is so screwed up, they want to screw other people up.
And then other people are just born as evil, some people are genetically evil as well.
DR.D
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First off, you and jakellpet are both good intelligent men so please stop negging each other. That's just egotistical BS guys. You can't truly claim to seek truth if your personal feelings usurp honest consideration of the facts.
Why is Israel hitting back so hard now? If you keep getting punched in the face, how many times would it take before you finally got pissed and hit back? Why do the Arabs hate them so much? Because they do not share in the Jews inheritance and it make them envious. Sibling rivalry is a common phenomena, it's not hard to grasp this concept. The Bible said his hand (Ishmael's) will always be against his brother (Isaac). Which part of the word always don't people understand? Ishmael has birth right, but he's not the chosen son, that's the nature of the problem. There is no diplomatic solution and there never was!
jakellpet
Banned
this is how anon. threads should be - out in the open.
saludable24
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Can't believe the people who don't understand why Isreal has to do this type of thing. Poison summed it up best, but honestly: both sides had an agreed upon cease fire which Hamas broke by SHOOTING ROCKETS into Isreal, targeting civilians.
Isreal has a right to protect itself and it's citizens from attacks and would be conpletely justified in leveling gaza to the ground and kicking every last palastinian out of there if that's what it took to stop rockets from falling on its civilians.
And yes, it is tragic that civilians get caught in the crossfire, but those same palastinian civilians voted a terrorist organization to power in the first place, and those who didn't should have left once they saw them come to power. They are getting what is coming to them and so far are getting off lightly as far as I'm concerned.
Isreal has a right to protect itself and it's citizens from attacks and would be conpletely justified in leveling gaza to the ground and kicking every last palastinian out of there if that's what it took to stop rockets from falling on its civilians.
And yes, it is tragic that civilians get caught in the crossfire, but those same palastinian civilians voted a terrorist organization to power in the first place, and those who didn't should have left once they saw them come to power. They are getting what is coming to them and so far are getting off lightly as far as I'm concerned.
poison
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i have two responses for you:
1) **** you
2)as am american who volunteered in an idf combat unit, i can tell you you are completely, totally wrong. one side doesnt give a ****, in fact, hamas prefers some civilian casualties, as it plays into their game. israel goes farther than any other militarry to avoid civilian casualties. no one conducts more ops in tougher urban conditions with fewer casualties than israel. whether you believe that is irrelevant.
you choose the correct response.
Zero V
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You know, sadam allowed inspectors in. But they only saw what he wanted them to. Did it ever occur to you, to test the waters? As in wonder whether or not your unit was specifically under orders to look good since an outside source was there?
Some of the greatest criminals look amazing and are great people when your around them. Then in the back room they were snapping old mens fingers for protection money.....
I used to be in the Army, and knowing how side stepping and backstabbing our own military is, and how pretty they like to be for the cameras. What makes you think theirs is any better? An American is here boys, so behave. That way we have a good rep with them.....Politics 101.
Just a possibility. Not being a jerk about it, but I always say test the waters.
And having ever have been there myself. I can only go off of what I can research.
Zero V
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CSCC, Ohio, Humanities 113. OSU deals the same thing. Get over history. You sound like someone who only reads Dr. Seuss books.....
Why would the UN back a people to take land from others.....Jewish were having it extremely hard with every country treating them like trash.
I am not time, therefore I am not history, I am not 80 years old, therefore that is not my era, therefore this is not my own beliefs. You are like someone who would say parts of history never happened. Like Vietnam never happened or something. You cant pick and choose history.
you really are kind of missing the point....totally. Considering I have no beef with Jews, or any race or religion. And have had any friends from most of them.... The second half of your continued (second sentence) insulting would be Void. The first half(of the second sentence) is completely valid though
poison
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For 3 years? THey were instructed to put on an act for ME, for 3 years?
:lol: Right. 1) it's impossible logistically, 2) it simply doesn't work that way.
Well, I'm here telling how it is, first hand. I was drafted with 500 other recruits, all new and untrained, just like me. We spent a year and 2 months together, straight. Then I went on to sniper school in a different location, to sergeants school in still another place with guys from 20-30 different units, I was in lebanon, in Hebron, you name it. There are, at any given time, ~150 guys just like me, Americans, serving in the IDF, not to mention S. Africans, Mexicans, Filipinos, and a whole lot more, all in different units.
Sorry, dude, it's simply not even close to being possible.
SilentBob187
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Did they teach you any Krav Maga techniques? I've heard nothing but positives about IDF training. Like you said, their urban tactics are in a class all their own.
jakellpet
Banned
Columbus State Community College: Education That Works?
Bwahahaha.... :toofunny:
Sounds like you also took a course on 'How To Dig Your Own Grave' - hilarious!
It's not necessary to list my qualifications or achievements, but I will admit to reading Dr Seuss books to my kids.
Perhaps you should quit while you're ahead there soldier, but if it's war you want I got plenty of ammo :thumbsup:
poison
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Yes, I learned extensive krav maga, but mostly post-military, in a gov't course.
Israeli urban tactics are pretty innovative, particularly the use of tanks in urban areas, the use of explosives, and the use of caterpillars.
atjnutrition2
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I know I"m wading in late, but I can't believe someone is on here touting their "knowledge" from a humanities 113. Are you effing kidding me?
jakellpet
Banned
yeah, I was figuring that was the reason...
I'll tell you what, in our part of the world Malaysia is real hardarse on the extremists - throw their arses straight into jail.
Indonesia on the other hand is riddled with them - a real threat to the region, and in particular Australia.
DR.D
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This is what the Bible says about it:
Psalm 83 (NIV Bible)
1 O God, do not keep silent;
be not quiet, O God, be not still.
2 See how your enemies are astir,
how your foes rear their heads.
3 With cunning they conspire against your people;
they plot against those you cherish.
4 "Come," they say, "let us destroy them as a nation,
that the name of Israel be remembered no more."
5 With one mind they plot together;
they form an alliance against you-
6 the tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites,
of Moab and the Hagrites,
7 Gebal, Ammon and Amalek,
Philistia, with the people of Tyre.
8 Even Assyria has joined them
to lend strength to the descendants of Lot.
9 Do to them as you did to Midian,
as you did to Sisera and Jabin at the river Kishon,
10 who perished at Endor
and became like refuse on the ground.
11 Make their nobles like Oreb and Zeeb,
all their princes like Zebah and Zalmunna,
12 who said, "Let us take possession
of the pasturelands of God."
13 Make them like tumbleweed, O my God,
like chaff before the wind.
14 As fire consumes the forest
or a flame sets the mountains ablaze,
15 so pursue them with your tempest
and terrify them with your storm.
16 Cover their faces with shame
so that men will seek your name, O LORD.
17 May they ever be ashamed and dismayed;
may they perish in disgrace.
18 Let them know that you, whose name is the LORD—
that you alone are the Most High over all the earth.
What this sounds like is an Arab/Muslim force coming against Israel, consisting of Saudi Arabia, yes Jordan too it seems, Lebanon, Iraq, Syria and Iran. Turkey can go either way. Egypt apparently won't join the Arab federation and may even be an ally to Israel in the end, though it says they do get hit hard anyway just being in that area when certain events occur.
Zero V
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Considering I have laready lost any confidence you know anything of history, go ahead. You have yet to argue history, you have only acted like an angry child.
Zero V
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And plenty of Christians carry bibles..... and um....it says not to do many of the things they end up doing. So......what makes you think soldiers, in war, would follow alittle booklet, of much less importance?
Zero V
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As in the basics. There is much more info in history about it. Have any of you looked into it? No.....just content with your own illusionary self satisfied knowledge.
AE14
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I think that this is true to a degree. However, it runs deeper.
Over the many centuries that this has gone on, there has been little to no attempt at resolution. And please no one quote anything attempt post WWI as resolution. I am speaking as a jew, and I can tell you that both sides have been "crapped" on by powers greater than theirs. However, as it stands now, the Israeli's and the IDF are not going to lay back. in fact, they will push harder and harder. To be honest, Hamas and any other organization is going to have to tread very carefully at this point.
Regardless of justification, millenia of persecution and mistreatment have led to what will unfold during the months and years ahead, and the larger, and greater industrialized nations have no one to blame but themselves and their ancestors
Oh and zero, please dont think that a humanities course is going to offer you even the least bit of insight, especially an "entry level" one. THat is just silly. No offense
poison
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poison
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You guys don't get it. Hamas is an avowed terror organization, recognized as such by the US, EU, UN, Japan, Jordan, Egypt, and many others. The Human Rights Watch stated in 2002 that Hamas' leaders "should be held accountable for the war crimes and crimes against humanity" that have been committed by its members.
You should listen to Jordan, they know WTF they're dealing with:
Hamas' charter is full of anti-semitic, conspiracy theoryist rhetoric, and vows for the destruction of the state of ISrael:
Hamas, in Decmber, was considering the official enstatement of Taliban-style Sharia:
This has been in effect, unofficially, for some time now:
In other words, Hamas is full of ****. Gaza voted en masse for Hamas, and brought them into power, despite their agenda being known. And some of you guys here are DEFENDING them? What kind of ****ed up alternate reality allows you the moral and intellectual 'flexibility' to see Hamas as the good guys and Israel as the bad?
You should listen to Jordan, they know WTF they're dealing with:
Hamas' charter is full of anti-semitic, conspiracy theoryist rhetoric, and vows for the destruction of the state of ISrael:
Hamas, in Decmber, was considering the official enstatement of Taliban-style Sharia:
This has been in effect, unofficially, for some time now:
In other words, Hamas is full of ****. Gaza voted en masse for Hamas, and brought them into power, despite their agenda being known. And some of you guys here are DEFENDING them? What kind of ****ed up alternate reality allows you the moral and intellectual 'flexibility' to see Hamas as the good guys and Israel as the bad?
jakellpet
Banned
hush now child. I hear the bells at community college ringing and mommy has packed you some sandwiches for lunch.
Run along now, you have plenty of learning to do.
dexterford
New member
Rah Rah Hezbollah~
I'm rooting for Gaza.
I'm rooting for Gaza.
poison
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innocent gazans, or 'gaza'?
mmowry
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Just take the names out and look at it like this
1) Group a has been firing rockets at group b during a cease fire
2) Group b has restrained themselves for quite a time while their members were in danger
3) Group b has aked numerous times for group a to stop the rockets and group a has responded by more rocket fire
What should group b do?
A) keep getting pounded by a lesser force (who says they will never stop) and put their citizens even more at risk but keep the media happy
or
B) :nutkick: :numbered:
Im an option B man :thumbsup:
1) Group a has been firing rockets at group b during a cease fire
2) Group b has restrained themselves for quite a time while their members were in danger
3) Group b has aked numerous times for group a to stop the rockets and group a has responded by more rocket fire
What should group b do?
A) keep getting pounded by a lesser force (who says they will never stop) and put their citizens even more at risk but keep the media happy
or
B) :nutkick: :numbered:
Im an option B man
:thumbsup:
DR.D
Well-known member
Check out what this person has to say about it, copied from another discussion board. It explains Hamas from the perspective of a man who lives in Jerusalem, and how he ties it into Biblical prophesy.
Nuclear war in the Middle East, Isaiah 14 & Zephaniah 2
The destruction of Damascus in a time line of Isaiah and Zephaniah. The beginning of the prophecy in Isaiah starts at:
Isa 14:28 In the year that King Ahaz died this oracle came:
Note that you will not see a new time marker in this oracle till Isaiah 20:1, so that is the end of the oracle. Not the chapter and verse numbers that were added by the English translators. A more logical starting point for Chapter 14 would have been 14:28.
Now what I propose is that you read Isaiah 14 and Zephaniah 2 at the same time as they are parallel prophecies. Note that they have the same format as follows:
-Puzzle or timelock
-Warning to the Palestinian believers
-Judgement on the Palestinian non-believers and Muslims
-Description of the action of the day
-The destruction of Moab (central Jordan)
When you see the puzzle take place, you know that the time of the prophecy is at hand.
What will make it easier is that the prophecy has already started. I look on this prophecy series like it was a bomb in the Middle East, the old kind with a fuse. The last part of Isaiah 14 and the first part of Zephaniah 2 is the story of the destruction of the Palestinians. First we must see the lighting of the fuse by identifying the time of its start in the world events around us.
The 1'st puzzle…
Isa 14:29 "Do not rejoice, O Philistia, all of you, Because the rod that struck you is broken; For from the serpent's root a viper will come out, And its fruit will be a flying serpent.
In order to understand this text you need to see the pattern in the world around you that fits the pattern of the text. Who is Philistia? Most commentaries say that this prophecy took place 4000 years ago when David wiped out the Philistines and captured Gaza for the tribe of Judah. All we really know about them is that they were a Greek fishing culture that invaded Canaan and were called the ancient Hebrew name for invader, Philistine. When they took over the Gaza strip they adopted the Canaanite gods and became one of the many pagan kings that were living in the lands given to Abraham.
We know very little about them as David wiped them completely out. What we do know says that the people called Falaseia (Arabic pronunciation of Palestinian) that live there today are NOT the same Palestinians of old as the “new” Palestine is Semitic not Greek in bloodlines.
As a side note, when I hear the Arabs speaking on the radio in Israel about themselves they call themselves the Fallacya. And a fallacy they are indeed. For they are Islamic invaders to the land of Israel, not the return of 4000 year old dead Grecian fishing culture.
How can the standard explanation of the prophecy be called fulfilled if we have no idea of the history of the Palestinians beyond those days?!
You must also separate the term Palestinian from the land called Palestine. Islamic politics is very deceptive. Deception is one of the primary war tools of Jihad. When Israel first became a nation the Jews were called Palestinians, the Arabs would get very upset if you called them a Palestinian. The Jerusalem Post newspaper called the Palestine Post. It later changed its name when the Jews began to call themselves Israeli’s instead of Palestinians. The Arabs, seeing the propaganda value then began to call themselves Palestinians!
Another thing to keep in mind that Palestine is a place name, not a nation name. There never was a Palestinian nation before WW II, so this prophecy is a political identification. If you were speaking to Palestinians today you would be talking about the Arabs in the Gaza strip, or the West Bank, or to someone who is a member of the Palestinian political party, not a geographical location as there is not a ‘Palestine’ now.
The first time that the geographical area of Palestine spawned the present political party of the Palestinians is when the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem in WW II created a local coalition of Islamic Arabs and joined politically with Hitler. He favored the “final solution” that Hitler espoused for the Jews.
However, when Germany lost the war the power of the Grand Mufti was broken. I’m sure it wasn’t fun to have a Nazi master, but God warns “Isa 14:29 "Do not rejoice, O Philistia, all of you, Because the rod that struck you is broken;” he goes on to say: “For from the serpent's root a viper will come out,”…
Who is the Rod? The Nazi Master, The Grand Mufti. From his root (his bloodlines) came his grand nephew, Yassir Arafat. He was the next generation of Palestinian leadership.
While the Grand Mufti was a rod that struck them, he was but a serpent. From him came a much worse government (Nazi’s) who was a viper, a poisonous serpent and a terrorist government. Arafat is the leader that began to use their children as bomb fuses, he invented bomb belts and air plane hi-jacking.
The scriptures indicate a third generation of Palestinian government: “And its fruit will be a flying serpent.” The third generation of Palestinian government is far worse than just a terrorist government, it is a Islamic fundamentalist government.
The serpent, became a poisonous viper, that became a dragon! I would call today’s Palestine Hamastien. They are like a cross between the Taliban and Arafat. Poison not only to their own people but to everyone around them.
A resident of Gaza city was walking on the beach downtown with his bride to be and with his little sister as an escort. In Islam, an unmarried couple must never be anywhere without a family escort as it is considered improper. A local Hamas group decided that the teenaged sister was “insufficient escort” and when the couple and his little sister got into their car to leave the beach, Hamas drove up blocking their car with their pickup truck. When they got out of their truck they all emptied their AK 47’s into the fiancé killing her. They drug her body from the car and beat it with steel pipes to show their displeasure and then beat the young man and his sister so badly that they were both hospitalized.
This is life in modern Palestine under the dragon.
The 2’nd puzzle…
Zep 2:1 “Gather yourselves together, yes, gather, O nation without shame,
What makes this a puzzle, and how can you see this in a way that opens the prophecy that its starting?
Consider this, you can talk to Islamics and ask them if they are a Palsetinian and they will loudly pronounce yes! If you ask them where they are from, often they will tell you Syria, or Saudi Arabia. If you continue to probe (and they do not get wise to where you are headed with it) you can ask where their parents are from and they’ll usually tell you the same thing, Syria or Saudi or whatever.
You see, Palestinian is a Political party not a nation! The Palestinian Liberation Organization which changed its name to the Palestinian Authority is/was the leading party of the Palestinians in generation two. It is now Hamas. Both of their political platforms state their intention to destroy Israel. Palestine is a “nation that is gathering together” from all the surrounding Islamic Nations! And it truly is a “Nation without shame” or “Unwanted Nation” as the Bible states.
The next part will discuss the next stage in these two prophecies, the warning to the Palestinian Christians.
Warning to the Palestinian Christians found in Isaiah:
Isa 14:30 "Those who are most helpless will eat, and the needy will lie down in security…”
Since this prophecy is directed to the Palestinians, who among them are the most helpless and needy? The answer is the Palestinian Christians. The Moslems view them at best as a slave class. They cannot get Jobs in Palestine, their homes are being confiscated by the Islamic militants, and they have nobody to protect them. Ever since the US in the Oslo Accords got Israel to give Bethlehem over to Palestinian Authority control, the city has gone from 85% Christian residence to somewhere under 5%. The Muslims are driving the Christians out.
A friend of mine has lived in the SE part of Jerusalem, a housing tract called Gilo. Just down the hill is the Palestinian controlled area called Bet Jalla on the NE edge of Bethlehem. My friend is an American Christian and his friend is an Arabic Christian that lived “next door”, down the hill about 300 yards away in Bet Jalla. Before the Intifada or Jihad war called for by Arafat (that started in the year 2000) there was free travel between the two edges of the towns. On weekends, they would have dinner at each others houses and things were peaceful.
But once the Intifada started, the Palestinian Jihadi would come into Bet Jalla and break into a Christians house to set up a sniper to shoot into the Jewish apartments up on top of the hill in Gilo. They hoped the IDF would shoot back so they could claim the Jews were shooting at Christians in the news!
One day the friend from Bet Jalla was able to come into the city to visit the American on the hill and told him that the day before a Moslem youth gang broke into his house and pulled his family out in the street. They then proceeded to beat his wife and daughter in front of him for being a Christian. He said with tears streaming down his face that he could do nothing. “If I tried to stop them, I would have been arrested for the crime of an infidel striking a Muslim. My family would never see me alive again.”
In the Sharia Law, no infidel is allowed to testify against a Muslim. So there were in effect, no witnesses. That is the last we heard from his friend in Bet Jalla, we never saw him or his family again. Truly in all of Israel, the Palestinian Christians are the most helpless.
Now turn to Zephaniah for the second parallel in the prophecies after the puzzle:
Zep 2:3 "Seek the LORD, All you humble of the earth…
Remember that this prophecy is to the Palestinians, and who among them Is humble? Certainly not the Muslims who claim to be the masters of the earth and scream threats to all who will listen. It is the Christians who are humble in that society. In the places where Islam has had power over other peoples it is a common law that only a Muslim can ride a horse. For if an infidel were to ride a horse his head might be lifted above a Muslims and that is forbidden. When an infidel meets a Muslim on a sidewalk, the infidel must walk in the street to avoid his head being higher than the Muslim. This law is not yet in effect in Palestine, but the attitude sure is. Any Palestinian Christian without humility around his “superiors” is soon humbled. He will not continue to be proud if he survives.
Zep 2:3 "…Who have carried out His ordinances; Seek righteousness, seek humility….
The first part of this is easy to identify, the Muslims do not carry out the ordinances of God: Do not kill, Love your neighbor as yourself, etc. It is the Christians that follow Gods Laws.
Zep 2:3 Perhaps you will be hidden in the day of the LORD'S anger.
Uh oh, here there is a warning, and not just any warning but one that is repeated. It is a rule in Bible interpretation that when God repeats Himself, you had better listen. Anything said twice in the Bible is major. There is something scary coming.
But the question remains, why? The key to that question is the preceding statement, “Seek righteousness, seek humility”. The funny part is He just said they were “the humble of the earth” in the sentence before! There is a real clue here, and once again the clue is in the scripture, the statement is the humble of the earth.
On the earthly side, the Palestinian Christians are very humble, but in the spiritual they have a real problem. They hate the Jews, they have a very strong replacement theology that goes so far that I have heard Arab Christian pastors say “We do not read parts of the Bible because it is too nice to the Jews.” God does not view that very well.
The following scripture are a lesson to us all that is well illustrated in the plight of the Palestinian Christians we being spoken of…
Rom 11:17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree,
Rom 11:18 do not be arrogant toward the (natural) branches; but if you are arrogant, {remember that} it is not you who supports the root, but the root {supports} you.
Rom 11:19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in."
Rom 11:20 Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear;
Rom 11:21 for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either.
Rom 11:22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God's kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off.
What we see here is God has little room for bad attitudes towards the family that we were adopted into. If you are arrogant against them, you might just find yourself loosing your ‘adoption papers’.
God is warning the Palestinian Christians to seek spiritual humility, so that the principle of Romans 11 does not disqualify them from His protection in the day of his Judgment on the Palestinian Arabs!
Lets hop back over to Isaiah to see the parallel warning there:
Isa 14:30 "Those who are most helpless will eat, And the needy will lie down in security; I will destroy your root with famine, And it will kill off your survivors.”
Who is the Palestinian Christians root? Just like the previous scripture about the root of the serpent, the roots are the bloodlines. What God is saying is that He is going to destroy the Palestinian Arabs with famine, and in a way, God repeats Himself here.
Normally when the repeat rule is used though, is when a scripture literally repeats the same words, but here he does not exactly repeat Himself. However, there appears to be a hidden meaning in this section. For what God may be saying is that famine will destroy the Arabs, but then something else will hit them, and anyone that survives that, they will be in turn finished off by the famine. Basically, ‘there will be NO SURVIVORS’.
Lets jump to Zephaniah for more of that pronouncement of destruction:
Zep 2:4 “For Gaza will be abandoned…”
An interesting point here is the word “abandoned” describing Gaza is azuvah in Hebrew. It means passively abandoned. Indeed Gaza was passively abandoned as the Jews gave the land to the Arabs for peace as demanded by the US in “the Road Map” peace dealings. But the word for Ashkelon is desolation! It will not be passively abandoned, it will be destroyed.
There is an interesting point about Gaza being abandoned that I would like to mention here, first that when Gaza was abandoned, the land that was given to the Arabs had over 1,000 massive greenhouses full of a crop that was worth TEN MILLION dollars in exports annually. Gaza provided 20% of the fresh vegetables to Europe at that time. It was right at the first of the harvest, but instead of harvesting the crop the Arabs trashed the greenhouses and stripped them for the plumbing, pumps and wiring.
With no pumps, the crops all died in 2 weeks. They are doomed to starvation, not because the Jews aren’t feeding them, but because the food the Jews could have used to feed them was given to them already and they destroyed the crops! The Palestinians are supplying their own judgment, and God is not the bad guy here. The Palestinians are doing it to themselves. God is going to show his wrath by not saving them from themselves.
They also took those same town sites, and turned them into Jihad training camps and rocket launching pads to fire rockets into Israel. All last year, daily, they had been firing rockets into Israel towns and suburbs. I say town sites not towns, because the Palestinian Authority demanded that all the Jewish homes, grocery stores and schools be destroyed before the land be returned to them. They did not want “dirty Jews houses defiling the land”.
However, a very key thing started to happen then. America made Israel hand the security zone between Gaza and Egypt over to Egypt to patrol. Needless to say part A of the Islamic Empire is not the best way to keep part B of the Islamic Empire from getting arms shipments from Part C of the Islamic Empire.
Where the arms shipments once were smuggled into Gaza on ships by trying to sneak past the small Israeli Navy at sea, now they can be landed safely in Egypt and just driven over the border.
Iran is part C. They now ship full sized Russian designed modern Artillery rockets to the Jihadi in Gaza to fire at Israel. The town that is being targeted with these new much more powerful and long range rockets is the town to the north of the northern tip of Gaza, Ashkelon. Israel’s 13’th largest city.
The written date for the above post was last summer. After reading it, I thought it was interesting when I saw that missiles targeted Ashkelon today. :blink:
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Here's parts 3 and 4 of his post, he never finished the part 5 he promised.
More insight on Ashkelon:
Part three…
Zep 2:4 “For Gaza will be abandoned And Ashkelon a desolation...
Ashkelon is being targeted not just because it is now in range but because it is one of the main power plants for Israel. It is also the oil port where Israel’s oil supplies are imported, and is also one of the main chemical refinery plants. It happens to be the city where all the chlorine gas that is used to sterilize the water supply for the nation is produced, and it is stored in compressed liquid form in a huge pressure tank there in Ashkelon. Ashkelon is being targeted because it is a highly strategic military target that is critical to the proper functioning of the nation.
Jump to Isaiah, an important part of the story there right now:
Isa 14:31 "Wail, O gate; cry, O city; Melt away, O Philistia, all of you… For smoke comes from the north, and there is no straggler in his ranks.
This is a good moment to point out that the literal interpretation of prophecy is not just important, it is surprisingly accurate! But in order to see its accuracy you have to really look at what is going on, where its going on, at the time that its going on.
For we see through a glass darkly. Like looking through frosted glass, when you look through it at something, even the right thing, it is hard to tell what it is, unless you hold the glass right up to the object! For when the time is right and you are close to it, it is pretty easy to see what is happening. But when it is years away and you are trying to figure it out or years later as the memory of the actual events fade, the understanding of the prophecy tends to fade as well because we can no longer see it as well. Less things match in our sight. Prophecy is not just literal, it is supernaturally literal. It is so accurate that no man could have figured it out on his own. That is how we know, besides it being in the Bible that the prophecy is from God.
Gaza has only one true city and it is a huge one, it has one million inhabitants the Arabs claim, it is called simply Gaza City. And at its southern border is the Gate to Egypt. This is the border gate that Hamas has broken through twice in the last few months. The first time Hamas blew up about a 75 foot section of the wall between Gaza and Egypt and the Hamas leaders stood in the gap handing three one hundred dollar bills to any Palestinian that would go into Egypt to go shopping. Seeing that the average income of a Palestinian has shrunk to only two thousand a year since Israel gave control of the land to the Palestinian Authority in the Oslo Accords, you can imagine the scene for the news cameras. Thousands of “poor helpless Palestinians” rushing for the chance to buy “supplies” in Egypt. The news media played it up like that was because they could not get supplies in Gaza as Israel was “blocking” access from Gaza to Israel for supplies.
Nah, they ran in there because they were paid big bucks to go, and this was the first time they had money for years. The media never mentioned that part, nor did the three letter news agencies responsible to keep us informed tell us that the free hundred dollar bills turned out to be counterfeits.
Needless to say Egypt was PISSED. Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars of goods were “bought” with rubber bills. The Egyptians finally got the Palestinians driven back across the border and rebuilt the fence. The Egyptians like guarding the gate, because they get a “piece of the action” on all smuggling done there. It is so a part of the Egyptian Muslims culture they even have a word for it, “Baksheesh”. You can’t even buy postage stamps in the post office in Egypt with out a little baksheesh for the clerk. But nobody likes Palestinian Muslims, because they kill people. In every country they have been hosted in, they have tried to kill the hosts and overthrow the government to take control for themselves. Jordan, Syria, Lebanon to be specific. In Kuwaiti they did not try to overthrow the government themselves, but they worked as forward agents of Saddam Husain in Iraq and they led the troops into the country and acted as spys for Iraq while they were employed there. That is why, everywhere they go, they are imprisoned in Arab societies. The Palestinian breed of Muslim is just to virulent to be let run free in your homeland.
The Palestinians were able to break through again just a month ago, but not near as big of a hole this time. And this time the Egyptians had backup troops and were able to drive them back over the border after a brief riot.
I said all that to show you the next part of the scenario. To bring you to there and now in the picture so you can see just how literal prophecy is.
Part 4, the end of Palestine…
You need to read part three to get the background story to really understand this part, so if you skipped to here, do yourself a favor and read the last part of three so it is fresh in your mind.
We continue with the story of the destruction of the Palestinians in Gaza:
Isa 14:31 "Wail, O gate; cry, O city; Melt away, O Philistia, all of you; For smoke comes from the north, And there is no straggler in his ranks.
I quote here also the Darby translation:
Isa 14:31 Howl, O gate! cry, O city! thou, Philistia, art wholly dissolved; for there cometh from the north a smoke, and none remaineth apart in his gatherings [of troops].
I had my neighbor the Cantor for the local synagogue help me in understanding it. They are the singers of the scriptures in the synagogue and are experts in ancient Hebrew. His comment that this was very difficult to put into English, he would translate it that there is smoke coming from the north and every one has a place in it.
Remember that I mentioned that the chlorine gas for the entire Nation of Israel is stored in Ahskelon? What do you think will happen if in an artillery bombardment one of those artillery rockets hit that liquid chlorine tank? It will create a huge smoke cloud of poisonous gas. Any oxygen breathing thing that gets in that cloud will instantly die. One lungful of chlorine gas will kill a man, it will scar the lungs so bad there is no cure.
So back to Zephaniah for the continuing story:
Zep 2:4 For Gaza will be abandoned And Ashkelon a desolation; Ashdod will be driven out at noon And Ekron will be uprooted.
Ashdod is a small town south of Ashkelon, Ecron is a tiny little village that is north of Ashkelon. If Ashkelon is shelled and burns, I beleve Ashdod and Ekron will be evacuated for fear of the chlorine tank rupturing.
Now this is the scenario I propose, Right after the evacuation of Ecron, Ashdod will not be uprooted like in an evacuation, but “driven out” because I believe the wind is going to be blowing south and the tank will rupture. Know what is south of Ashkelon? The Gaza strip! It is called a strip because it is only five miles wide, and goes twenty mile or so down the coast to the border with Egypt at Gaza City, where south of it is the Raffa Gate into Egypt. When that deadly cloud of smoke from the city that the Palestinians have destroyed comes south the people will run the only directon they can go, south into Gaza city to wail at the gate to be let into Egypt.
However the Egyptian Army has very strict orders to not allow the Palestinians into Egypt. Those soldiers have heard about every excuse and lie there is for why they should let Palestinians into Egypt and they are not going to believe this new “lie” that the Jews are using poison gas to attack Gaza. They know Jews hate poison gas and do not have that as part of their arsenal due to their abhorrence of the use of poison gas on their people during the Holocaust. They will not believe it until the gas hits them and by then it will be too late.
Wail oh Gate, cry oh city… Sends chills up my spine thinking of the horror of that day.
Once again the Palestinians will be given a very just justice. As they have decided to kill themselves to kill Jews, they will be allowed to kill them selves indeed! Once again it is Gods justice not to kill horribly, but to not save them from themselves.
The day of God’s wrath for Palestine is at hand. And those lucky enough to survive the gas, that somehow by luck are in a place that the gas does not pass over? Remember this scripture?
Isa 14:30 … I will destroy your root with famine, And it will kill off your survivors.
The survivors will starve, for there will be nothing left, if the chlorine is strong enough, it will kill all the plants too. Lets finish the story with a jump back into Zephaniah:.
Zep 2:5 Woe to the inhabitants of the seacoast, The nation of the Cherethites! The word of the LORD is against you, O Canaan, land of the Philistines; And I will destroy you So that there will be no inhabitant.
Gaza strip today is on the seacoast, in the exact spot of the ancient land of the Cherethites. The Philistines, (said in English “invaders), became Canaanites when they adopted the Canaanite gods of the Cherethites when they took that land for their own. There is an ancient Canaanite altar in the museum in Jerusalem. It is a ring of stones with a single altar head stone. Carved on the face of the headstone is two uplifted hands holding a crescent moon. Exactly like the crescent moon on top of every Mosque.
What this is saying is “Woe to the inhabitants of Gaza strip. The word of the LORD is against you, O Muslim s, the land of the invader. And I will destroy you So that there will be no inhabitant!
No survivors… scary.
Zep 2:6 So the seacoast will be pastures, {With} caves for shepherds and folds for flocks.
Zep 2:7 And the coast will be For the remnant of the house of Judah, They will pasture on it. In the houses of Ashkelon they will lie down at evening; For the LORD their God will care for them And restore their fortune.
Here God returns the land of the Gaza Strip to the Jews, and it sounds like they do not build on it again. However the city of Ashkelon is reinhabited.
Lets flip back to then end of Isaiah 14, the last verse, to see the parallel of the return of the land to Judah. . There is one tiny part left in this story and it is not just scary, it is VERY scary, because here in the scriptures after the Palestinians are gone from the Gaza strip God speaks to the Jews and tells them to tell the United States something:
Isa 14:32 "How then will one answer the messengers of the nation? That the LORD has founded Zion, And the afflicted of His people will seek refuge in it."
And for clarity another translation, this time the NIV:
Isa 14:32 What answer shall be given to the envoys of that nation? “The Lord has established Zion, and in her his afflicted people will find refuge.”
Who are the messengers or envoys that the Jews have to answer to about the Gaza strip? The United States, the nation that demanded they give it away. And what is Gods message? It is a rebuke for our meddling, He established Israel, and His people will live in it, NOT THE ARABS.
See America is in prophecy, we are rebuked because we have sinned against God by taking His land from the Jews.
Our story comes later, but this is the end of the story for Palestine as you will see in part five.
What is next is the destruction of Moab, and after that is the destruction of Damascus…
Now I don't know if this guy's opinion is valid or not, but it makes sense and his Biblical refs are accurate as far as I can find.
More insight on Ashkelon:
Part three…
Zep 2:4 “For Gaza will be abandoned And Ashkelon a desolation...
Ashkelon is being targeted not just because it is now in range but because it is one of the main power plants for Israel. It is also the oil port where Israel’s oil supplies are imported, and is also one of the main chemical refinery plants. It happens to be the city where all the chlorine gas that is used to sterilize the water supply for the nation is produced, and it is stored in compressed liquid form in a huge pressure tank there in Ashkelon. Ashkelon is being targeted because it is a highly strategic military target that is critical to the proper functioning of the nation.
Jump to Isaiah, an important part of the story there right now:
Isa 14:31 "Wail, O gate; cry, O city; Melt away, O Philistia, all of you… For smoke comes from the north, and there is no straggler in his ranks.
This is a good moment to point out that the literal interpretation of prophecy is not just important, it is surprisingly accurate! But in order to see its accuracy you have to really look at what is going on, where its going on, at the time that its going on.
For we see through a glass darkly. Like looking through frosted glass, when you look through it at something, even the right thing, it is hard to tell what it is, unless you hold the glass right up to the object! For when the time is right and you are close to it, it is pretty easy to see what is happening. But when it is years away and you are trying to figure it out or years later as the memory of the actual events fade, the understanding of the prophecy tends to fade as well because we can no longer see it as well. Less things match in our sight. Prophecy is not just literal, it is supernaturally literal. It is so accurate that no man could have figured it out on his own. That is how we know, besides it being in the Bible that the prophecy is from God.
Gaza has only one true city and it is a huge one, it has one million inhabitants the Arabs claim, it is called simply Gaza City. And at its southern border is the Gate to Egypt. This is the border gate that Hamas has broken through twice in the last few months. The first time Hamas blew up about a 75 foot section of the wall between Gaza and Egypt and the Hamas leaders stood in the gap handing three one hundred dollar bills to any Palestinian that would go into Egypt to go shopping. Seeing that the average income of a Palestinian has shrunk to only two thousand a year since Israel gave control of the land to the Palestinian Authority in the Oslo Accords, you can imagine the scene for the news cameras. Thousands of “poor helpless Palestinians” rushing for the chance to buy “supplies” in Egypt. The news media played it up like that was because they could not get supplies in Gaza as Israel was “blocking” access from Gaza to Israel for supplies.
Nah, they ran in there because they were paid big bucks to go, and this was the first time they had money for years. The media never mentioned that part, nor did the three letter news agencies responsible to keep us informed tell us that the free hundred dollar bills turned out to be counterfeits.
Needless to say Egypt was PISSED. Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars of goods were “bought” with rubber bills. The Egyptians finally got the Palestinians driven back across the border and rebuilt the fence. The Egyptians like guarding the gate, because they get a “piece of the action” on all smuggling done there. It is so a part of the Egyptian Muslims culture they even have a word for it, “Baksheesh”. You can’t even buy postage stamps in the post office in Egypt with out a little baksheesh for the clerk. But nobody likes Palestinian Muslims, because they kill people. In every country they have been hosted in, they have tried to kill the hosts and overthrow the government to take control for themselves. Jordan, Syria, Lebanon to be specific. In Kuwaiti they did not try to overthrow the government themselves, but they worked as forward agents of Saddam Husain in Iraq and they led the troops into the country and acted as spys for Iraq while they were employed there. That is why, everywhere they go, they are imprisoned in Arab societies. The Palestinian breed of Muslim is just to virulent to be let run free in your homeland.
The Palestinians were able to break through again just a month ago, but not near as big of a hole this time. And this time the Egyptians had backup troops and were able to drive them back over the border after a brief riot.
I said all that to show you the next part of the scenario. To bring you to there and now in the picture so you can see just how literal prophecy is.
Part 4, the end of Palestine…
You need to read part three to get the background story to really understand this part, so if you skipped to here, do yourself a favor and read the last part of three so it is fresh in your mind.
We continue with the story of the destruction of the Palestinians in Gaza:
Isa 14:31 "Wail, O gate; cry, O city; Melt away, O Philistia, all of you; For smoke comes from the north, And there is no straggler in his ranks.
I quote here also the Darby translation:
Isa 14:31 Howl, O gate! cry, O city! thou, Philistia, art wholly dissolved; for there cometh from the north a smoke, and none remaineth apart in his gatherings [of troops].
I had my neighbor the Cantor for the local synagogue help me in understanding it. They are the singers of the scriptures in the synagogue and are experts in ancient Hebrew. His comment that this was very difficult to put into English, he would translate it that there is smoke coming from the north and every one has a place in it.
Remember that I mentioned that the chlorine gas for the entire Nation of Israel is stored in Ahskelon? What do you think will happen if in an artillery bombardment one of those artillery rockets hit that liquid chlorine tank? It will create a huge smoke cloud of poisonous gas. Any oxygen breathing thing that gets in that cloud will instantly die. One lungful of chlorine gas will kill a man, it will scar the lungs so bad there is no cure.
So back to Zephaniah for the continuing story:
Zep 2:4 For Gaza will be abandoned And Ashkelon a desolation; Ashdod will be driven out at noon And Ekron will be uprooted.
Ashdod is a small town south of Ashkelon, Ecron is a tiny little village that is north of Ashkelon. If Ashkelon is shelled and burns, I beleve Ashdod and Ekron will be evacuated for fear of the chlorine tank rupturing.
Now this is the scenario I propose, Right after the evacuation of Ecron, Ashdod will not be uprooted like in an evacuation, but “driven out” because I believe the wind is going to be blowing south and the tank will rupture. Know what is south of Ashkelon? The Gaza strip! It is called a strip because it is only five miles wide, and goes twenty mile or so down the coast to the border with Egypt at Gaza City, where south of it is the Raffa Gate into Egypt. When that deadly cloud of smoke from the city that the Palestinians have destroyed comes south the people will run the only directon they can go, south into Gaza city to wail at the gate to be let into Egypt.
However the Egyptian Army has very strict orders to not allow the Palestinians into Egypt. Those soldiers have heard about every excuse and lie there is for why they should let Palestinians into Egypt and they are not going to believe this new “lie” that the Jews are using poison gas to attack Gaza. They know Jews hate poison gas and do not have that as part of their arsenal due to their abhorrence of the use of poison gas on their people during the Holocaust. They will not believe it until the gas hits them and by then it will be too late.
Wail oh Gate, cry oh city… Sends chills up my spine thinking of the horror of that day.
Once again the Palestinians will be given a very just justice. As they have decided to kill themselves to kill Jews, they will be allowed to kill them selves indeed! Once again it is Gods justice not to kill horribly, but to not save them from themselves.
The day of God’s wrath for Palestine is at hand. And those lucky enough to survive the gas, that somehow by luck are in a place that the gas does not pass over? Remember this scripture?
Isa 14:30 … I will destroy your root with famine, And it will kill off your survivors.
The survivors will starve, for there will be nothing left, if the chlorine is strong enough, it will kill all the plants too. Lets finish the story with a jump back into Zephaniah:.
Zep 2:5 Woe to the inhabitants of the seacoast, The nation of the Cherethites! The word of the LORD is against you, O Canaan, land of the Philistines; And I will destroy you So that there will be no inhabitant.
Gaza strip today is on the seacoast, in the exact spot of the ancient land of the Cherethites. The Philistines, (said in English “invaders), became Canaanites when they adopted the Canaanite gods of the Cherethites when they took that land for their own. There is an ancient Canaanite altar in the museum in Jerusalem. It is a ring of stones with a single altar head stone. Carved on the face of the headstone is two uplifted hands holding a crescent moon. Exactly like the crescent moon on top of every Mosque.
What this is saying is “Woe to the inhabitants of Gaza strip. The word of the LORD is against you, O Muslim s, the land of the invader. And I will destroy you So that there will be no inhabitant!
No survivors… scary.
Zep 2:6 So the seacoast will be pastures, {With} caves for shepherds and folds for flocks.
Zep 2:7 And the coast will be For the remnant of the house of Judah, They will pasture on it. In the houses of Ashkelon they will lie down at evening; For the LORD their God will care for them And restore their fortune.
Here God returns the land of the Gaza Strip to the Jews, and it sounds like they do not build on it again. However the city of Ashkelon is reinhabited.
Lets flip back to then end of Isaiah 14, the last verse, to see the parallel of the return of the land to Judah. . There is one tiny part left in this story and it is not just scary, it is VERY scary, because here in the scriptures after the Palestinians are gone from the Gaza strip God speaks to the Jews and tells them to tell the United States something:
Isa 14:32 "How then will one answer the messengers of the nation? That the LORD has founded Zion, And the afflicted of His people will seek refuge in it."
And for clarity another translation, this time the NIV:
Isa 14:32 What answer shall be given to the envoys of that nation? “The Lord has established Zion, and in her his afflicted people will find refuge.”
Who are the messengers or envoys that the Jews have to answer to about the Gaza strip? The United States, the nation that demanded they give it away. And what is Gods message? It is a rebuke for our meddling, He established Israel, and His people will live in it, NOT THE ARABS.
See America is in prophecy, we are rebuked because we have sinned against God by taking His land from the Jews.
Our story comes later, but this is the end of the story for Palestine as you will see in part five.
What is next is the destruction of Moab, and after that is the destruction of Damascus…
Now I don't know if this guy's opinion is valid or not, but it makes sense and his Biblical refs are accurate as far as I can find.