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i hate CB dalloway, he seems gay, like seriously. If he's not gay then he's a major douche. I cant see why anyone would be a fan of 'the doberman' :rolleyes:
 
I HATE to say this, but Wand's best days are behind him. I love him to the end, but his days as a contender are over. Too many wars throughout the years have reduced him to a shell of his former self.
 
awesome nights of fights, sad to see Wandy and Nog at the end of their careers.
 
Rodja said:
I HATE to say this, but Wand's best days are behind him. I love him to the end, but his days as a contender are over. Too many wars throughout the years have reduced him to a shell of his former self.
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Everyone gets caught but I think youre right Rodj. He looked pretty tight until that point though. Man whats up with letting your hands down against Rampage...hes got some power. Wand should have been a little more defensive minded till later rounds. Bad game plan in my eyes. Nice slip left hook from Page though...just like practice ;)
 
I would have never thought Nog would have been out boxed by Mir! I did pick Rashad and Page though.

Freaking Mir knocking out Nog...bleh...:frustrate

I'm going to sob in my man cave now...
 
That damn Crocop fight did it. Wand can still dish them out like the best of them, but his button has been pressed too many times now. His recovery time is nowhere near where it once was.

That left hook is enough to maybe knock a LHW down, but Wandy was out cold. I just wish it wasn't against Rampage.
 
A quick question.

Anyone else gets the feeling that Pat Barry with a year trainning in Jiu Jitsu / Takedown defense and dropping down to Light Heavyweight (which wouldn't be too hard... I mean, he's 235 right now, he could easily drop about 15lbs during that year and just cut to fights) and he would be one HUGE FORCE in the light heavyweight?

Idk, I see him as a mix between chuck and rashad. Knockout power, great stamina and one powerful leg. I could really see him being a huge factor in the light heavyweight division with his height, skills and power, if he can make the weight without losing much of his knockout power.

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BTW, anyone catch the article on Frank Mir at Muscle and Fitness magazine or whatever? (can't remember the exact name right now)

How the hell can he beat Nogueira? Or anyone for that matter. Seriously. An MMA fighter that says out loud he won't do cardio, he hates lifting, and that he won't do the "7 miles run every day", how can he do anything, or want to be taken seriously?! I mean, that's HIS JOB! Thats all he does for a living. He doesn't have a job to go to from 8am-5pm, and he won't run at least a couple miles a day? Seriously, I could not have any less respect for a fighter.

And I still dont know wtf happened on that fight. Minotauro just did not look like himself. A shame... And now Brock will beat his ass and keep his belt... Hopefully they'll give Kongo a chance to take that belt, and I feel like he easily could with his reach and takedown defense... But anyways.
 
Beowulf said:
Where are Alex and Jas?
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I still stop by every once in a while, but not as often as the old days. Alex abandoned ship, and it seemed like more newer fans were posting here. I also got busy with other stuff.

Rodja, I'm not sure that I agree with you 100% on Wand. I picked Rampage to win by KO on another site. It, of course, pained to me to do so as I'm nearly as big of a Wand fan as you (minus the creepy stalker tendencies :stick: ). I think Wand's game was just too out-dated in this fight. He moved well and looked fairly sharp like the Wand of old, but he's still throwing the same wild looping hooks despite his training at Extreme Couture. Wand barely won those fights with Page in Pride. Yes, the ending was brutal and definitive, but Page was ahead for a lot of both of those fights. Since then Page has improved his game substantially. His standup is much more technical and he generates way more power. Wand's chin seems to have weakened some from the wars/KO's over the years and I'm sure the head trauma has effected his game a little too, but I don't see him as a Nog type of case. I think the Page of last night would have KO'd peak Wand as well.

Man, Nog looked terrible. He needs to fight Randy in a great technical battle of veterans and then call it a career. Mir looked good too, but I think a number of HWs would have KO'd Nog last night. Mir's come a long way since his accident.

Kongo's fight went on WAY too long. Al-Turk has a broken orbital, jaw and 2 cheek bones according to internet rumor. Kongo-Cain V should be next IMO since Carwin is fighting Gonzaga. Or maybe Werdum-Kongo, Cain-Dos Santos....

Hammill won but looked like sh1t to me. His standup seems to have regressed from what I remember against Bisping.

Forrest put together a great first 2 rounds and then forgot how to use his guard. I don't know if he was rocked or not on the ground, but that was bad defense. Rashad generates a ridiculous amount of power in some of those punches on the ground. He didn't even wind up that much on the big one that put Forrest on queer street. I thought Forrest tapped too. Come on "Jesus didn't tap"....

Pat Barry is nasty, Bla. I'd like to see more of him.
 
I had to come in and check on Rodja.

It killed me to see Mir beat Nog the way he did, but I almost expected it after Nog's performance against Tim Sylvia. He didn't look like the legend of Pride FC then, and I knew if he didn't improve from that, Mir was going to have an upper hand, but I didn't expect it to be THAT dominating.

I don't like Forrest too much and like Rashad even less, however, Rashad won me over with his performance. It was everything the Forrest/Rampage fight should have been.

I like Wand, one of the classiest, if not thee classiest fighters in the UFC, but Rampage was who I was rooting for and I damn near lost my voice when he knocked Wandy out. Overall great card.

I did wonder if CB Dollaway and Rampage spoke at all, pre or post fights, considering CB was Page's main guy when he coached TUF.
 
I gotta say it looks like it will be Page v. Rashad, possibly in mid spring. TOo close to call IMO. I would like to see Machida get a shot, however his style makes it difficult to market him as a champ.

Also, Mir-Lesnar II, I think Lesnar will have it, as I cant see him making the same tactical errors this time around. I think he will box with him a bit, then GnP him into oblivion.

In terms of Kongo, I like him, however guys like Gonzaga would destroy him IMO. Right now, the only guy in the UFC that will beat Brock (or will get a shot at him) might just be Gonzaga. Crazy how this all turned out. Very sad to watch Nog. He looked like a shell of himself. So sad.
 
jas123 said:
Rodja, I'm not sure that I agree with you 100% on Wand.

I think the Page of last night would have KO'd peak Wand as well.
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I was afraid of this but... Since leaving Pride, Jackson won a controversial win over Lindland and Henderson. So 2 controversial wins over middleweights, not to take anything from those two. He KO'd Eastman and Liddell, then lost a controversial match to Forrest (I gave it to Page). So, you can argue that Rampage had a solid victory over Liddell, who may or may not have been past his prime at that point.

Pride era Rampage was just as good if not better. Wand was holding his own, until that flash KO. There wasn't anything flashy about Rampage's victory over Wand, it was a solid hook that Wand should have been able to take and smile, but he was out cold.

I don't know if Wand ever got over that brutal concussion that followed the CroCop fight, but the Henderson KO was on the same note.
 
Condition1 said:
I was afraid of this but... Since leaving Pride, Jackson won a controversial win over Lindland and Henderson. So 2 controversial wins over middleweights, not to take anything from those two. He KO'd Eastman and Liddell, then lost a controversial match to Forrest (I gave it to Page). So, you can argue that Rampage had a solid victory over Liddell, who may or may not have been past his prime at that point.

Pride era Rampage was just as good if not better. Wand was holding his own, until that flash KO. There wasn't anything flashy about Rampage's victory over Wand, it was a solid hook that Wand should have been able to take and smile, but he was out cold.

I don't know if Wand ever got over that brutal concussion that followed the CroCop fight, but the Henderson KO was on the same note.
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I am the biggest Wanderlei fan, but that was far from a flash KO. He was down for good 20 seconds after that left hook (which was the exact same strike he took from Hendo). Wand hasn't been the same since he fought Hunt and wasn't able to really bully him around. Granted, it was a controversial loss, but that was the turning point in his career.
 
And he probably shouldn't have fought Hendo when he was sick. Didn't he have strep or something. I remember reading that he had a fever, and he looked like crap in that fight. MMA is too dangerous to fight when sick. Didnt' the same thing happen to Arona vs. Soko?
 
I miss used "flash KO". What I meant was, those hits from Hendo and Page weren't KO caliber punches. I just hate that he went out the way he did, against Rampage of all opponents.

Page got 2 cheap shots after Wand was KO'd while the ref was trying to pull him off, WTF?
 
Condition1 said:
I was afraid of this but... Since leaving Pride, Jackson won a controversial win over Lindland and Henderson. So 2 controversial wins over middleweights, not to take anything from those two. He KO'd Eastman and Liddell, then lost a controversial match to Forrest (I gave it to Page). So, you can argue that Rampage had a solid victory over Liddell, who may or may not have been past his prime at that point.

Pride era Rampage was just as good if not better. Wand was holding his own, until that flash KO. There wasn't anything flashy about Rampage's victory over Wand, it was a solid hook that Wand should have been able to take and smile, but he was out cold.

I don't know if Wand ever got over that brutal concussion that followed the CroCop fight, but the Henderson KO was on the same note.
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The Lindland fight was still Rampage 1.0 IMO. Rampage 2.0 started when he got hooked up with Juanito and his new camp. Henderson may have been more of MW, but he looked bigger in that fight and is hardly an easy fight for any LHW. He looked slightly out of shape against Forrest, and Forrest exposed an unknown weakness.

He's become more of a counter-striker now with good defense. That is a bad recipe for Wand to tangle with. Ibarra also taught Rampage how to channel his power better, and he's become quite a power puncher. That hook looked pretty nasty to me. Would it have KOed peak Wand? Who knows....

Rodja, I agree that Hunt was definitely the start of the downslide for Wand. What a terrible opponent for him: a large, powerful elite level striker who is impossible to KO. Oh, and give him 3 days to prepare for him after training for Saku. Once Wand realized he wasn't invincible, he started to slide.

Also, Dana said (and he would never lie...) that Nog had a staph infection. Seems reasonable from what I saw, but we'll see how he looks against Couture hopefully.
 
Reaper329 said:
I gotta say it looks like it will be Page v. Rashad, possibly in mid spring. TOo close to call IMO. I would like to see Machida get a shot, however his style makes it difficult to market him as a champ.

Also, Mir-Lesnar II, I think Lesnar will have it, as I cant see him making the same tactical errors this time around. I think he will box with him a bit, then GnP him into oblivion.

In terms of Kongo, I like him, however guys like Gonzaga would destroy him IMO. Right now, the only guy in the UFC that will beat Brock (or will get a shot at him) might just be Gonzaga. Crazy how this all turned out. Very sad to watch Nog. He looked like a shell of himself. So sad.
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page rashad would be one i would like to see. machida is very technical and seems like he cant be marketable but i think he can, as a technical fighter.....as long as he can show that he looks unbeatable.

mir lesnar......LOL.....mir is a fool. If he takes one good punch from Brock its gonna be over and GNP into oblivion or smitherines is a good description of it. That should be the next fight for Brock.

I was saying that too, about Gonzaga. He looks like he will give Brock alot of trouble. I dont know, i just cant see one of the less powerful HWs being able to beat Brock, in my eyes its gonna have to be a big powerful guy that can hold him off with some respect for the power. Mir doesnt have that imo.
 
pistonpump said:
page rashad would be one i would like to see. machida is very technical and seems like he cant be marketable but i think he can, as a technical fighter.....as long as he can show that he looks unbeatable..
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I would love to see Rashad/Machida. AS Rashad always comes in with a good game plan, and it will be itneresting to see what he can come up with against Machida.


pistonpump said:
mir lesnar......LOL.....mir is a fool. If he takes one good punch from Brock its gonna be over and GNP into oblivion or smitherines is a good description of it. That should be the next fight for Brock..
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I think the longer this goes on before the fight, the more advantageous for Brock. He will not make the same mistake, and in the first fight, he had Mir beat priuor to the back of the head stoppage.

pistonpump said:
I was saying that too, about Gonzaga. He looks like he will give Brock alot of trouble. I dont know, i just cant see one of the less powerful HWs being able to beat Brock, in my eyes its gonna have to be a big powerful guy that can hold him off with some respect for the power. Mir doesnt have that imo.
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GOnzaga is a bad matchup for Brock. While Kongo would get killed IMO
 
Reaper329 said:
GOnzaga is a bad matchup for Brock. While Kongo would get killed IMO
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haha i love how you use those terms to describe the beatings....they go awesome when thinking of the big beast that is lesnar. Like literally you can imagine Kongo getting speared into the fence and getting 'killed' haha.

machida rashad would be more justified too imo. machida deserves the shot.

id like to see mir box brock like he did nog. I can see one jab putting him in lala land.
 
jas123 said:
The Lindland fight was still Rampage 1.0 IMO. Rampage 2.0 started when he got hooked up with Juanito and his new camp. Henderson may have been more of MW, but he looked bigger in that fight and is hardly an easy fight for any LHW. He looked slightly out of shape against Forrest, and Forrest exposed an unknown weakness.

He's become more of a counter-striker now with good defense. That is a bad recipe for Wand to tangle with. Ibarra also taught Rampage how to channel his power better, and he's become quite a power puncher. That hook looked pretty nasty to me. Would it have KOed peak Wand? Who knows....

Rodja, I agree that Hunt was definitely the start of the downslide for Wand. What a terrible opponent for him: a large, powerful elite level striker who is impossible to KO. Oh, and give him 3 days to prepare for him after training for Saku. Once Wand realized he wasn't invincible, he started to slide.

Also, Dana said (and he would never lie...) that Nog had a staph infection. Seems reasonable from what I saw, but we'll see how he looks against Couture hopefully.
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Yeah, I guess all that is left to do is to accept it for now.:sad:
 
Gonzaga was overpowered by Couture and has more back hair than heart. He was a flash in the pan.
 
somewhatgifted said:
A couture who was 16-20 pounds heavier than the couture who fought lesnar. I think gabriel is too slow for lesnar.
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Wow... he was fast enough to kick Mirco into retirement...or a least send him that direction. And I remember Randy taking him down and headbuting his face and breaking his nose. Randy pounced on him out of instinct because Gonz broke his arm with a very fast and very solid kick... so to say hes not fast enough isnt really true. He is however extremely hairy :) I think like alot of fighters these days it depends which Gonz would show up. He does have speed and power as well. I would like to see Fedor dismantel either personally. Its time!
 
Brother said:
Wow... he was fast enough to kick Mirco into retirement...or a least send him that direction. And I remember Randy taking him down and headbuting his face and breaking his nose. Randy pounced on him out of instinct because Gonz broke his arm with a very fast and very solid kick... so to say hes not fast enough isnt really true. He is however extremely hairy :) I think like alot of fighters these days it depends which Gonz would show up. He does have speed and power as well. I would like to see Fedor dismantel either personally. Its time!
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Gonzaga broke his nose with his own knee when Randy slammed him. Theres a few gifs of it.
 
robdog said:
Gonzaga broke his nose with his own knee when Randy slammed him. Theres a few gifs of it.
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Well from this angle it does look like like his knee comes accross his face but heres a link Invalid Link Removed and Joe says several times their heads hit in the take down causing the broken nose. The top angle video you can see alot better...its possible Gonzo's knee helped Randy head do some damage. No doubt that he was dumped on his head for sure. If you watch the begining of the fight you can see that Gonzaga does have speed and the fact that he broke Cotures arm shows power. Randy was holding his own against Lesner in the clinch but got caught by one of those lesner meat hooks. I was just saying Gonzo does have speed for a heavy. Heart...thats another story. Easy to say when your not in the cage with a broken nose agaisnt the likes of Randy Coture.
 
heart? randy has heart but what did that do for him against lesnar? its not about heart imo, not against lesnar. all the heart in the world wont win you the fight if your getting mauled with a barrage of hammer fists.

Gonzo:lol:
 
Is it just me or does it seem like the UFC's running out of superstars..?

I don't find any of the new fighters exciting..or am I just getting old and wishing for the glory days?
 
flobot said:
Is it just me or does it seem like the UFC's running out of superstars..?

I don't find any of the new fighters exciting..or am I just getting old and wishing for the glory days?
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we are all getting old, however the UFC has a lot of guys who are either changing weight or coming into their own that are exciting

1. Thiago Alves
2. Winner of GSP/BJ
3. Potential of Anderson at 205
4. I hear about Wandy at 185
5. Carwin
6. Lesnar
7. hopefully a healthy Shogun to shake up 205
8. the emergence of Rashad
9. I like Diego at 155 personally
10. Bisping at 185 has done quite well and I look forward to him v. Franklin/Hendo

These are obviously quite subjective, but there is stuff to look forward to
 
Yeah, I'd have to side with a lot of new kids who are doing a good job.

Heck, Rashad seems to be quite a real deal! Winning the ultimate fighter on a heavyweight class and then taking the light heavyweight for himself? Quite an accomplishment!

Another UFer I really enjoyed was Amir. He seems like he can shape up very nicely in that division.

The one I'm going to keep an eye out for too is that Pat Barry guy. I was impressed with his knockout power. Or the cardio freak Cheick Congo.

Lyoto Machida has been a very very technical fighter, not much of a guy to win crowds but he fights well.

I don't know, I myself am kinda excited for the possibilities.
 
bla55 said:
Yeah, I'd have to side with a lot of new kids who are doing a good job.

Heck, Rashad seems to be quite a real deal! Winning the ultimate fighter on a heavyweight class and then taking the light heavyweight for himself? Quite an accomplishment!

Another UFer I really enjoyed was Amir. He seems like he can shape up very nicely in that division.

The one I'm going to keep an eye out for too is that Pat Barry guy. I was impressed with his knockout power. Or the cardio freak Cheick Congo.

Lyoto Machida has been a very very technical fighter, not much of a guy to win crowds but he fights well.

I don't know, I myself am kinda excited for the possibilities.
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I would have to add kenny florian, tyson griffin, frankie edgar, dustin hazlett and bobby lashley to people i am excited to see fight again.
 
Yeah, I'd agree on a lot of those names.

I think what has happened lately is that the big names that we're used seeing (Silva, Nogueira, Hughes, Lidell, Cotoure, etc) are obviously aging and losing a step or two on the way, if not retiring, etc.

And I think the UFC has also not made a good enough job to solidify the status or promoted more these upcomming stars. We used to have Pride as one of the prime places to see big names, big shows, people going crazy for them and legends being made.

It's just new guys without big names as I see, and that's not as fun as seeing huge popular names comming in to the ring
 
I cant believe you guys. Act your age man not your shoe size! Punks.... no big names ..waaa waaaa... Just because your little heros get knocked the fuk out. Look at Mir coming back from left field and KO'ing Nog...I personally love seeing upsets even if it means my favorite is looking up at the lights thinking about his grocery order last Tues. I love upsets... long live the under dog! No offence
 
1. Thiago Alves - Sorry I don't find him exciting..reminds me of Robby Lawler..
2. GSP/BJ <--The last of the Old Guard..
3. Anderson's retiring soon..
4. Wandy at 185 <--Now This might be exciting
5. Carwin -no comment
6. Lesnar <--Because I was a WWE fan when I was a kid
7. Shogun <--Hopefully..
8. Rashad <--Dunno how long he'll last..but Silva v. Evans would be DYNAMITE.
9. Diego <--Always a good fighter
10. Bisping -- Kinda overrated I think..Sorry..he reminds me of Forrest Griffin for some reason.

Rich and Hendo are tired fighters I think..

Reaper329 said:
we are all getting old, however the UFC has a lot of guys who are either changing weight or coming into their own that are exciting

1. Thiago Alves
2. Winner of GSP/BJ
3. Potential of Anderson at 205
4. I hear about Wandy at 185
5. Carwin
6. Lesnar
7. hopefully a healthy Shogun to shake up 205
8. the emergence of Rashad
9. I like Diego at 155 personally
10. Bisping at 185 has done quite well and I look forward to him v. Franklin/Hendo

These are obviously quite subjective, but there is stuff to look forward to
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flobot said:
Is it just me or does it seem like the UFC's running out of superstars..?

I don't find any of the new fighters exciting..or am I just getting old and wishing for the glory days?
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The game is just getting more technical. There are rarely slugfests like Bonnar-Forrest and fighters that have that style are being phased out. But instead you get guys like Hazelett who is ridiculously exciting, or a fight like Forrest-Page which was an amazing fight.

The UFC has done a **** job of building up some guys, and they also let guys fall under the radar after they have hyped them. Fitch could be a superstar. He showed serious heart against GSP, but now they put him on the undercard. Retarded. You also have some champs that a little too dominant...

And Robbie Lawlor's the man. Wake up.
 
So whats the level of excitement for the upcoming fights...?

1)Penn vs St.Pierre
2)Machida vs Alves
3)Emelianenko vs Arlovski

I am not stoked to see fedor fight Arlovski but to see fedor fight always promises an explosive display of raw power.

Im picking Machida to win, alves has some sick power and pushes a guy who likes to sit back and play mind games.
I think machida will not be solved by the likes of thiago.

The obvious choice is St.Pierre , his game is possibly more rounded than otherwise seen. Im also thinking flash knockout.. Serra did it and a larger BJ is going to look to finish quick. If it goes past two rounds it doesnt look good for BJ.
 
I'm with Penn, Fedor and Machida. Machida looks like a real killer. He looks like a guy w/ a lot of discipline and determination with the youth, background, and skills to back it up. He reminds me of people like Anderson Silva and Fedor.

Just judging by their last fight, where Penn pounded St. Pierre's face to a bloody pulp, I'm going w/ Penn. Given that St. Pierre has much better wrestling skills but whether St. Pierre takes Penn down or not is not an issue because it doesn't do anything to Penn except score points (Ie. in their last fight, St. Pierre's GnP was ineffective..) and there's absolutely no way that St. Pierre's BJJ is anywhere near Penn's level. If I'm to change my mind I've to see St. Pierre do More this time.

Oh yeah, as for Arlovski; the only way he'll win is with a lucky bomb. Otherwise Fedor will dismantle him slowly but surely.

somewhatgifted said:
So whats the level of excitement for the upcoming fights...?

1)Penn vs St.Pierre
2)Machida vs Alves
3)Emelianenko vs Arlovski

I am not stoked to see fedor fight Arlovski but to see fedor fight always promises an explosive display of raw power.

Im picking Machida to win, alves has some sick power and pushes a guy who likes to sit back and play mind games.
I think machida will not be solved by the likes of thiago.

The obvious choice is St.Pierre , his game is possibly more rounded than otherwise seen. Im also thinking flash knockout.. Serra did it and a larger BJ is going to look to finish quick. If it goes past two rounds it doesnt look good for BJ.
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flobot said:
I'm with Penn, Fedor and Machida. Machida looks like a real killer. He looks like a guy w/ a lot of discipline and determination with the youth, background, and skills to back it up. He reminds me of people like Anderson Silva and Fedor.

Just judging by their last fight, where Penn pounded St. Pierre's face to a bloody pulp, I'm going w/ Penn. Given that St. Pierre has much better wrestling skills but whether St. Pierre takes Penn down or not is not an issue because it doesn't do anything to Penn except score points (Ie. in their last fight, St. Pierre's GnP was ineffective..) and there's absolutely no way that St. Pierre's BJJ is anywhere near Penn's level. If I'm to change my mind I've to see St. Pierre do More this time.

Oh yeah, as for Arlovski; the only way he'll win is with a lucky bomb. Otherwise Fedor will dismantle him slowly but surely.
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Hum, flobot, I'll side with you on the Machida and Fedor ones.

Machida is a great fighter, and he's the only one ever to actually incorporate Karate, Judo and all that into an MMA fighter. He's not a Karate fighter who knows a little MMA. He's an MMA fighter who knows a sh!t load of karate and Judo, so, he'll be dangerous. I'm sure he'll keep this one standing up and pick Silva apart, who will be trying to take him down after getting frustrated with the standup beatings. That will only get him even more frustrated when he can't take him down, nor get the big punches he usually does, and therefore make a big mistake that'll give Machida the win.

Fedor, well, best fighter, done, even with a few mistakes he could still probably pull this off with ease.

But now, BJ Penn and GSP. Let's keep in mind that GSP fought Penn a LONG time ago. Yes, he won that bout but wasn't too convincing. The thing is, BJ was close to the top of his game, GSP was still blossoming. He had the fight with Serra after and he looked like a newcomer to the UFC at that fight. But after that one fight, I've not seen a fighter progress as much as he did, which led him to a total domination of Koshek, Matt Hughes, and finally, Matt Serra. And let's be honest, the 2 Serra x GSP fights were 100% different. In one GSP looked good and Serra looked great. In the second, GSP looked unstopable and Serra looked like an amateur.

Now, BJ Penn has a great BJJ, granted. But how much better is it compared to Matt Serra? He may be more flexible, but how much better? Can he take someone down who stuffed every single one of Serras attempts? I just don't see that happening. Specially when GSP has a few (to not say A LOT) of lean muscle pounds on BJ.

So for me it is:
Fedor
Machida
GSP
 
The big ? for me is ... Has anyone seen Machida get hit?

The guy never gets hit, its clearly cause he's an awkward fighter (extreme talent) and can he take a shot?
I still got him to win but against a long limbed in your face striker this fight will answer alot of ?'s if Machida is to be at the top of this division.
 
Hmm that's funny... I actually have never seen Machida get hit hard if at all. That guy's slippery on his feet..
somewhatgifted said:
The big ? for me is ... Has anyone seen Machida get hit?

The guy never gets hit, its clearly cause he's an awkward fighter (extreme talent) and can he take a shot?
I still got him to win but against a long limbed in your face striker this fight will answer alot of ?'s if Machida is to be at the top of this division.
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True, he is very very evasive... Even all out guys like Tito were unable to get anything on him.

But then again, maybe he doesn't have quite a chin and will get KO'd by a single punch, so I guess we won't know until he eats a clean one.
 
bla55 said:
True, he is very very evasive... Even all out guys like Tito were unable to get anything on him.

But then again, maybe he doesn't have quite a chin and will get KO'd by a single punch, so I guess we won't know until he eats a clean one.
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Because we all know that Tito is a stand-up monster...
 
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