Newbie: Insomnia from Mass FX/Retain/Hyperdol-Stack?

Son of Earth

Son of Earth

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Hey there, I am a long time reader, first time poster. Please excuse me if my english tends to suck, I am german.

I just started yesterday with my first Mass/Retain/Hyperdrol-Stack and started out with 2 Retain (morning, afternoon), 3 Mass FX (Morning, Midday and early evening) and 2 Hyperdrol (Midday and night).
I am used to get up really early, so I went to bed at 10 p.m. but couldn't sleep til ab 2 a.m.

Did anyone of you guys experience something similar? Which of the compounds could be responsible?

Best regards and thanks in advance!


Cheers!:cheers:
 
Too tough to pinpoint at this time, but can you layout your day and dosing in terms of when you took everything in relation to waking, eating, and bedtime? ie as follows:

wake - 1 MFX, 1 R, 1 HX2
11am - 1 MFX, 1 R, 1 HX2
6pm - 1 MFX, 1 HX2
11pm - 1MFX, 1 HX2, 1 R

That's just an example of a layout. Plug in your values and we'll be glad to take a look for ya! :D
 
Thx - that'd be great!

Yesterday (no Workout):

Wake - 09:00 - 1 MF, 1 RT with Breakfast
third Meal - 15:00 - 1 MF, 1 HX2
Bed Time - 22:00 - 1 HX2, 1 RT (together with Fishoil, ZMA, Vit. C and Chondroitine)

I usually get up at 06:00 but I don't have to work these days, so I usually fall asleep at 22:00 very fast. But yesterday night I didn't felt sleepy nor wide awake - it was a kind of in between feeling with a lot of thoughts rushing through my mind.

So, what do you think?
 
Is there a lot going on right now in your life?

I have a tendecy to get like this when I have important projects I'm working on.
 
i have found with some users that mass fx late at night is very stimulating and keeps ppl awake at times try dosing that at least 4-5 hours away from bedtime
 
Thx you guys!

First of all, yes, it's a bit weird right now at my workplace, which is bothering me and could also be irritating.
Second, I will try to take the last dosage of Mass FX earlier and will check how this reacts towards my sleep.


But I two other questions:

1.) Will this dosaging be OK?

- Morning: 1HX2, 1 MF, 1 RT
- Lunch: 1HX2
- Pre Workout: 2 MF, 1 HX2
- Post Workout: 1 RT
- Bed Time: 1 HX2

or do you suggest another scheme?

2.) Is there a big difference between Mass FX/HX2 and Jungle Warfare/Bad ass mass - or are these stacks similar?

Again big thanks and best regards!
 
Son of Earth, have you checked your estrogen levels, they may be too low, which is causing the insomnia.
 
Son of Earth said:
That's interesting. Why do you suspect this?
I didn't get my estrogen levels checked.
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Well Hyperdrol contains alpha and beta isomers of 6-bromo(potent AI's), and then you got MassFx which contains natural anti-estrogenic compounds such as whitemushroom extract and sea buchthorn. Lots of estrogen being blocked.
 
OK guys,

it's 09:47 a.m. here in Germany and I was awake till about 04:30 a.m. after going to bed at half past 11 :frustrate

This time I took 1 Hx2 outside my normal night-stack consisting of ZMA, Vit. C, Aminoacids and Fishoil. Tonight I will also be cancelling the HX2.

Maybe Andrew732 is right and the dosage is a bit much...

I'll keep posting.

Can anybody help me with my two questions above?


Son of Earth said:
1.) Will this dosaging be OK?

- Morning: 1HX2, 1 MF, 1 RT
- Lunch: 1HX2
- Pre Workout: 2 MF, 1 HX2
- Post Workout: 1 RT
- Bed Time: 1 HX2

or do you suggest another scheme?

2.) Is there a big difference between Mass FX/HX2 and Jungle Warfare/Bad ass mass - or are these stacks similar?
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Good Morning to all of you,

it's 09:51 a.m. and after avoiding Mass FX and HX2 past 6 p.m. I could sleep at last.

Thx to all of you and especially the suggestion of Andrew732
 
Son of Earth said:
Good Morning to all of you,

it's 09:51 a.m. and after avoiding Mass FX and HX2 past 6 p.m. I could sleep at last.

Thx to all of you and especially the suggestion of Andrew732
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Awesome! Mass fx has that affect of some ppl and usually this solves it. Also i did not read how you are dosing the hdx2 but if you have not tried using it before bed you may want to try 2 caps of that before bedtime
 
Yes, I first stopped the Mass FX past 6 p.m. but still had sleeping issues, so I also stopped the Hdx2.
I am avoidong both past 6 p.m.
 
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