New Grunt Adventures in color and 2D!!!

[bassgod272]

Grunt-


In that pic that you were 195lbs and said you were 'flat as a pancake', what BF% were you in that photo ? This was before your all-out bulk.

He said about 11% bro.

 

[Grunt76]

He said about 11% bro.

No he's talking about another picture.

Grunt-

In that pic that you were 195lbs and said you were 'flat as a pancake', what BF% were you in that photo ? This was before your all-out bulk.

In that picture I was 210 lbs and flat as a pancake. I have no pictures at 195 lbs, when I was at a condition which could be called "4 weeks out" or so... 5% bf maybe.

Anyway in that 210 "flat as a pancake" picture I was 7% to 8% bodyfat, I estimate.

 

[b-boy]

Who knows b-boy, I might make it to the rank of IFBB pro before you bro? I'm in a bit of a hurry, this is true.

LOL well if you do i will be the first to come to where ever you are.... pucker up..... and kiss your white ass..:thumbsup: :icon_lol:

 

[poopypants]

great progress Grunt, WAAAAAAY thicker looking IMO and should look great once you shed another few %'s and lose that water :thumbsup:

 

[Grunt76]

8 weeks out: update

I am obviously flat and watery, but I believe some good progress has been made since the last pictures were posted. I am 230lbs in these, 15lbs down from 2 weeks ago. I'm keeping on cutting hard to near contest condition, and then I will cruise into my last week, sharply upping calories until it's nearly showtime.

Here are the first 4, relaxed poses...

 

[Grunt76]

4 mandatories

 

[Grunt76]

4 more poses...

 

[pumbertot]

yes brother there is some improvement for sure. well done, when ripped you gonna rock da house!!!!

 

[poopypants]

lookin great man! keep it up.

Your lats are friggin MASSIVE!

 

[Grunt76]

lookin great man! keep it up.

Your lats are friggin MASSIVE!

Yeah I'm happy about my front double bicep pose...

Sadly these pictures make me look SO MUCH MORE FAT than in real life. I'm about 10%...

 

[poopypants]

lighting man lighting.... you got a front light going on (from the windows) and you need top lighting too give shadows and accentuate your definition... photo 101 didnt teach me nuttin

even if you cant get in the nice mirror room at night (is that a personal gym or training room????) try a hall way with a light above you and in front of you a foot or so ad see the difference.

 

[Grunt76]

lighting man lighting.... you got a front light going on (from the windows) and you need top lighting too give shadows and accentuate your definition... photo 101 didnt teach me nuttin

even if you cant get in the nice mirror room at night (is that a personal gym or training room????) try a hall way with a light above you and in front of you a foot or so ad see the difference.

Thanks brother. Actually that's the pilates/yoga/aerobics room in my gym. I have access pretty often. I'll take the next set of pics at night, good tip.

 

[poopypants]

LOL, just scrolled up the page and the wife saw your pic... shes like WHOA HES HUGE!!!!

 

[Grunt76]

LOL, just scrolled up the page and the wife saw your pic... shes like WHOA HES HUGE!!!!

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice :lol::thumbsup:

 

[datBtrue]

Forget the bodybuiling show for a second....

...I don't think the guy that you use to be 3 years ago ever thought he'd get his body THAT freak'in far. Remember all the the weight loss goals... remember the set backs like snapped bones from that bicycle crash...

Man you have come a long way baby!

Dude you look awesome and you should stop and look in the mirror every once in a while and think back a few years and be so f@ckin proud of yourself.

Sure you have a show coming up and you need to look in the mirror and think forward to where you are going ...just don't pass on the reflective moments and be damn proud of what you've accomplished. :thumbsup:

 

[Grunt76]

Forget the bodybuiling show for a second....

...I don't think the guy that you use to be 3 years ago ever thought he'd get his body THAT freak'in far. Remember all the the weight loss goals... remember the set backs like snapped bones from that bicycle crash...

Man you have come a long way baby!

Dude you look awesome and you should stop and look in the mirror every once in a while and think back a few years and be so f@ckin proud of yourself.

Sure you have a show coming up and you need to look in the mirror and think forward to where you are going ...just don't pass on the reflective moments and be damn proud of what you've accomplished. :thumbsup:

Thanks bro, that is a great compliment. And you are right, I have come a loooong way!

One thing I have to say. I have knowledge about dieting, training and every other aspect of the sport. 3 years ago my test levels were that of a 75-year-old man. And I was fat and weak and didn't progress. A year ago I got on testosterone and OMFG I am a new man.

As hard-headed as I had been about remaining natural - which I did for 14 solid years, I am forever thankful for AAS and all the great information my good brothers have given me over the years on these boards. Without this collective effort, I would not have achieved a fraction of this.

So thank you, ALL OF YOU, for I owe everyone a little bit. :thumbsup:

Group hug? :lol:

 

[SoCo4Fun]

Lookin badass bro!!!

 

[mmowry]

Great work Grunt.....you should be very proud!

 

[Grunt76]

Thank you all for the kind words brothers. Sadly I must report I have cancelled my competition plans for October 2008.

The main reason is, in April I got a 12.9% bf reading.
In July I got a 12.1% bf reading but I had lost at least 10lbs (4%) of fat.
In September I got a 11.9% bf reading after losing 15lbs of fat from the July reading.

Can you say FUGGED UP? OBVIOUSLY the ***hole holding the calipers has no freaking idea WTF he was doing and as such I got completely misguided in my contest preparation. When I was told I was 12.9% I was probably 18% or so - I'll never know.

Anyway, that was not sufficient to get me to cancel my plans. Oh no, not the ole Grunt here. So I cut my calories lower - 1400 to 2000 calories every day. And I upped my cardio to about 100 minutes 5x week, 500 minutes a week, good for 1200 calories right there, plus weight training and fatburners. I was burning nearly 5,000 calories a day, a deficit of 3,000. I've been very sick for the last week or so, no training, no dieting... I can't sleep coz I can hardly breathe, and I can't do anything during the day, I am totally miserable and there's no way I'll be ready for that show.

You know what's most interesting about all this? If you scroll back to April, I was all "well I'm going to ease into contest condition, I'll start early and do a good job without ever getting even close to panic mode." It didn't work out as planned did it? First my precontest cycle was wrecked by a scammer, then the prep itself was fugged up by an incompetent bodyfat measurer...

It just plain sucks. I learnt this:

ALWAYS ENTRUST YOUR BODYFAT MEASUREMENT TO PEOPLE WHOSE COMPETENCE WITH OTHER BODYBUILDERS HAS BEEN WIDELY DEMONSTRATED AND PROVEN!!!

 

[ragnar]

Sadly I must report I have cancelled my competition plans for October 2008.

That's hard news, Grunt. You spent a lot of energy and spilled a lot of sweat over the past several weeks. To be derailed by untrustworthy individuals must be frustrating beyond words. But we all know that you'll recover from this, Grunt, and come back bigger and leaner for competition in '09!

 

[poopypants]

Damn bro I feel for ya.

As Rag said youll come back bigger and better though next try (are you waiting a whole year or gonna hit the next show?? whenever that may be??)

At least you learned a valuable lesson to tuck under your belt and make it all the easier and "not rushed" next time around. I wish you the best of luck and will still be waiting with great anticipation to see those "on stage" pics man! youll kill em!

 

[Perfection300]

Grunt you have some VERY GOOD knowledge on certain things but by god you heavily try to overcompensate with the drug use to make up for your not so good genetics!

 

[Grunt76]

Grunt you have some VERY GOOD knowledge on certain things but by god you heavily try to overcompensate with the drug use to make up for your not so good genetics!

You are very full of sh!t aren't you?

 

[Perfection300]

You are very full of sh!t aren't you?

nah, just got out of the bathroom.

Seems like you would agree with me considering the info you post on other forums shows you have pretty good intelligence in BBing.

Fine you have outstanding genetics for body building. You lack the muscularity that even NFL football players posses when their main concerns are performance not being visually pleasing. And to mention you take 50x more aas/peptides than half the team combined.

Considering the knowledge and work is there....It has to be genetics.

 

[Perfection300]

In your most recent pics, you look like your natural.

Big & thick but poor shape.

 

[ragnar]

You lack the muscularity that even NFL football players posses when their main concerns are performance not being visually pleasing

Good grief, Perfection, the guy has made remarkable progress following some severe injuries in the not-too-distant past. That deserves some hefty props in my book.

And though he may not have yet (re)achieved the condition of someone running around on a football field all week, Grunt would dwarf someone like Terrell Owens (the guy most people think has the best body in the NFL) if he stood next to him (especially if they were both in shorts!).

 

[datBtrue]

In your most recent pics, you look like your natural.

Big & thick but poor shape.

107 posts in three days. Keep it up! :thumbsup:

By-the-way if you are on a mission for them greens, I should tell you, there ain't no greens.

 

[Zero V]

107 posts in three days. Keep it up! :thumbsup:

By-the-way if you are on a mission for them greens, I should tell you, there ain't no greens.

for one thing grunt, great progress bro, I have just looked through the thread, Getting massive man. I like the progress, when you cut, its gona be amazing.

datB, grunt, dont worry about this fool. From what I have seen from his posts, he is a very immature idiot.

 

[Grunt76]

In your most recent pics, you look like your natural.

Big & thick but poor shape.

Well I was natural for 17 of my 18 years training... :yawn:

And of course I'm not showing the great lines you see on posing decks at shows, I'm IN THE PROCESS of cutting down, idiot. That's like saying to any off-season bodybuilder, hey man you are not ripped. D0h.

 

[Perfection300]

Well I was natural for 17 of my 18 years training... :yawn:

And of course I'm not showing the great lines you see on posing decks at shows, I'm IN THE PROCESS of cutting down, idiot. That's like saying to any off-season bodybuilder, hey man you are not ripped. D0h.

You look like a natural powerlifter.

Once you cut down there won't be much there. Probably added 10lbs tops of your first pics. At what cost ???:icon_lol:

It's your life, if you want to continue to abuse drugs for no positive gains in return then go for it.

You shouldn't be mentioning your dosages on a forum full of teenagers. They see you and what your taking & will try to mimic.

 

[Perfection300]

107 posts in three days. Keep it up! :thumbsup:

By-the-way if you are on a mission for them greens, I should tell you, there ain't no greens.

Yep I can type fast for sure!

Don't worry this is a phase. I'll be bored of this in about a day or two and will leave you successful athletes ughhh......bbers...ughh your not that either...Ughh successful gym rats, be.

LMAO!

 

[Perfection300]

for one thing grunt, great progress bro, I have just looked through the thread, Getting massive man. I like the progress, when you cut, its gona be amazing.

datB, grunt, dont worry about this fool. From what I have seen from his posts, he is a very immature idiot.

Good luck being 153lbs @ 5'10'' buddy.

Maybe Grunt can charge you for cycle advice and after about 8 grand worth of gear you will be 200lbs......

 

[MacTech]

You look like a natural powerlifter.

Once you cut down there won't be much there. Probably added 10lbs tops of your first pics. At what cost ???:icon_lol:

It's your life, if you want to continue to abuse drugs for no positive gains in return then go for it.

You shouldn't be mentioning your dosages on a forum full of teenagers. They see you and what your taking & will try to mimic.

Go somewhere else and spew your bullshit dude.

Show us your pics and your great physique.

Grunt, keep with the program, you're doing great. Don't feel bad you won't be stepping on stage. I doubt that this asswipe has ever been there, if he has, great.

 

[Zero V]

Go somewhere else and spew your bullshit dude.

Show us your pics and your great physique.

Grunt, keep with the program, you're doing great. Don't feel bad you won't be stepping on stage. I doubt that this asswipe has ever been there, if he has, great.

Good points.

BTW i never want to be 200. My goal is 175-180, and stop. Speed is important to me, just as much as power. I am going for feeling great, looking great, and still being able to vault a fence, or swing through racks. I build for me, not for shows.

Hey grunt, what all are you using during your cut, supp wise?

 

[Grunt76]

Good points.

BTW i never want to be 200. My goal is 175-180, and stop. Speed is important to me, just as much as power. I am going for feeling great, looking great, and still being able to vault a fence, or swing through racks. I build for me, not for shows.

Hey grunt, what all are you using during your cut, supp wise?

Well I was doing 750mg test, 30mg epistane, some letrozole, some nolva, some clen, some T3, IBE's X-Force which has great appetite suppression abilities, and some other fat-burning helpers, such as MAN Scorch (off-clen) and Beverly International Lean Out, which is extremely gentle yet effective.

This is because I have been (obviously?) very pressed for time on my cut.

This asswipe "perfection 300" looks like he knows me from another universe, did some research and came here to play clown. He obviously knows nothing.

It is true, though, that I got way too fat on my off-season. Whatever I have been doing, fat gain is WAY too easy for me and I will have to address that. GH supplementation will help. I will also be toying with massive (30-50g ED) fish oil intake.

We'll see how that goes.

As of right now I am still cutting but not on a CKD anymore - I got fed up with it after nearly 4 months. I am lowering my test to HRT levels or so (300-350mg / week) and dropping most supplements. This is me "coming off". I don't actually come off because, as I wrote earlier, I need HRT since BEFORE starting my first cycle.

 

[MacTech]

I will also be toying with massive (30-50g ED) fish oil intake.

Don't cut yourself if you do this. I would not offer this as a suggestion as it will thin your blood significantly.

Where did you read this will help with weight loss?

 

[Grunt76]

Don't cut yourself if you do this. I would not offer this as a suggestion as it will thin your blood significantly.

Where did you read this will help with weight loss?

Yes there is a point where the blood thinning kicks in. I will make sure my blood clots better than say, NOW coz it don't. I will have to balance somewhere between blood thinning and fat loss. There are studies. I think pubmed?

 

[Zero V]

Well I was doing 750mg test, 30mg epistane, some letrozole, some nolva, some clen, some T3, IBE's X-Force which has great appetite suppression abilities, and some other fat-burning helpers, such as MAN Scorch (off-clen) and Beverly International Lean Out, which is extremely gentle yet effective.

This is because I have been (obviously?) very pressed for time on my cut.

This asswipe "perfection 300" looks like he knows me from another universe, did some research and came here to play clown. He obviously knows nothing.

It is true, though, that I got way too fat on my off-season. Whatever I have been doing, fat gain is WAY too easy for me and I will have to address that. GH supplementation will help. I will also be toying with massive (30-50g ED) fish oil intake.

We'll see how that goes.

As of right now I am still cutting but not on a CKD anymore - I got fed up with it after nearly 4 months. I am lowering my test to HRT levels or so (300-350mg / week) and dropping most supplements. This is me "coming off". I don't actually come off because, as I wrote earlier, I need HRT since BEFORE starting my first cycle.

man that is ALOT, lol. I think I would die on that :head:

Good luck with it man.

So you are always injecting test, so you dont have to worry about shutdown? you already are. so you can basically go off and do what you want?

 

[Grunt76]

man that is ALOT, lol. I think I would die on that :head:

Good luck with it man.

So you are always injecting test, so you dont have to worry about shutdown? you already are. so you can basically go off and do what you want?

Yes it is a lot, but remember I was so late that I was eating 2000 calories a day and burning 5000 so of course I needed all the "support" I can get.

And it really isn't that much, you would be amazed at how gentle it all is.

I was shutdown before my first cycle, so of course I'm not coming off trying to restart something that wasn't working. Well actually, I just *MIGHT* but that's another experiment altogether.

 

[Zero V]

Yes it is a lot, but remember I was so late that I was eating 2000 calories a day and burning 5000 so of course I needed all the "support" I can get.

And it really isn't that much, you would be amazed at how gentle it all is.

I was shutdown before my first cycle, so of course I'm not coming off trying to restart something that wasn't working. Well actually, I just *MIGHT* but that's another experiment altogether.

Yeah GL on that, who knows maybe you can flip out your body enough to do it....just dont go injecting hCG right into your boys. lol.

 

[poopypants]

Don't cut yourself if you do this. I would not offer this as a suggestion as it will thin your blood significantly.

Where did you read this will help with weight loss?

DAMN MAC! is that a recent 52 year old pic sir??? holy hell your ripped regardless :thumbsup:

Ya Grunty ol' boy dont worry yourself with others, you know what your doin what works for you and why your doin it, dont listen to others spewin nonsense.... cant believe I bothered helpin out some jackass through PM's who this easily comes in and smashes on others for doin what they do.

Your doses may not be for a teenager BUT your also twice as big as a teenager and know what your doing outside of AAS usage when it comes down to diet and routine, so your usage is your biz.

 

[russianstar]

I just got too say, and im sorry if this sounds cynical, but for everything youve taken, the amount of gear etc, you have very little improvement, i think you need to really change your training, steroids are not magic pills as you know, i think some big changes need to be made, but you show great dedication, and that is an inspiration.
Russian

 

[Grunt76]

I just got too say, and im sorry if this sounds cynical, but for everything youve taken, the amount of gear etc, you have very little improvement, i think you need to really change your training, steroids are not magic pills as you know, i think some big changes need to be made, but you show great dedication, and that is an inspiration.
Russian

Coming from a lightweight such as you it is a compliment. I was way ahead of wherever you think you are before I touched ANYTHING. Good luck. :thumbsup:

 

[Apowerz6]

I just got too say, and im sorry if this sounds cynical, but for everything youve taken, the amount of gear etc, you have very little improvement, i think you need to really change your training, steroids are not magic pills as you know, i think some big changes need to be made, but you show great dedication, and that is an inspiration.
Russian

Russian, that's your opinion but from a new guy like yourself, his progress is not at all from just gear. In addition his knowledge is vast, and sought by many online and off. Just know your words do read cynical, but his progress pics from years back to today shows fact.

 

[russianstar]

I apolagize, for them being taken this way, its hard sometimes to convey my thoughts in english, i know grunt has a vast knowledge, i never disagreed with that. Im a new guy here, its true, and i am young, but i was brought up in a gym, ive trained for different sports since i was 7, And in russia im very well known, and my brother is known all over the world, you may know him, levi sharko. he is european and world fitness champion.
Im training for aesthetics not size, so dont get me wrong, it looks like your just want bulk, and thats what i was commenting on, my uncle and my trainer knows all about looking good not just big, and he hasnt taken anywher near as much gear. links to him... http://www.fitnes.lv/news/viewtopic.php?id=17&p=31

And the last thing, you were way ahead of me before you touched anything, well done, but way ahead in what sense? ive represented russia in athletics, gymnastics, ive been a fitness model, ive done the things i wanted to do, i never compared myself to you, i just noted you are not looking great for all the stuff youve taken, you are much bigger than me its true, and i wouldnt even suggest i know anything like as much as you do, i just made a simple comment, and im sorry if it caused offense, no need to try to be unkind back guys, and thats why im defending myself.
Again im sorry...Russian

 

[MacTech]

DAMN MAC! is that a recent 52 year old pic sir??? holy hell your ripped regardless :thumbsup:
.

Yes, that was on my 52nd birthday at the end of August this year.

 

[pumbertot]

I apolagize, for them being taken this way, its hard sometimes to convey my thoughts in english, i know grunt has a vast knowledge, i never disagreed with that. Im a new guy here, its true, and i am young, but i was brought up in a gym, ive trained for different sports since i was 7, And in russia im very well known, and my brother is known all over the world, you may know him, levi sharko. he is european and world fitness champion.
Im training for aesthetics not size, so dont get me wrong, it looks like your just want bulk, and thats what i was commenting on, my uncle and my trainer knows all about looking good not just big, and he hasnt taken anywher near as much gear. links to him... Latvian Fitness & Bodybuilding Federation / WFF/WBBF Latvia - ВФФ/ВББФ ЛатвиÑ￾

And the last thing, you were way ahead of me before you touched anything, well done, but way ahead in what sense? ive represented russia in athletics, gymnastics, ive been a fitness model, ive done the things i wanted to do, i never compared myself to you, i just noted you are not looking great for all the stuff youve taken, you are much bigger than me its true, and i wouldnt even suggest i know anything like as much as you do, i just made a simple comment, and im sorry if it caused offense, no need to try to be unkind back guys, and thats why im defending myself.
Again im sorry...Russian

No offense but you know your uncle is natural how? Because he told you? Because he passes drugs tests? Which of course they dont test for GH and insulin.

I know many 'natural" bodybuilders who all pass the ineffective drug tests and NONE of them are natural, NONE! Go figure it out for yourself. Again I meant no offense but it kind of annoys me when im told " this guy is natural etc" because we know that 99.9% that is NOT true.

Does sound like you have achieved many things but you obviously dont have an eye for bodybuilding as Grunt clearly displays good progress so far despite his setbacks. Now to say he has poor gains with regards to the amount of juice he is using shows you know nothing much about AAS use. Of course if he is now very far ahead of his natural genetic potential he is going to make slower gains when on AAS and will need increasing amounts of AAS (despite what some may say) to provide enough androgens for his greater upregulated receptros( we now know downregulation is a myth). I think the fact he continues to make overall gains show how good his training, nutrition and pharmacology are.

Just my 10c and only MY opinion of course.

 

[russianstar]

No offense but you know your uncle is natural how? Because he told you? Because he passes drugs tests? Which of course they dont test for GH and insulin.

I know many 'natural" bodybuilders who all pass the ineffective drug tests and NONE of them are natural, NONE! Go figure it out for yourself. Again I meant no offense but it kind of annoys me when im told " this guy is natural etc" because we know that 99.9% that is NOT true.

Does sound like you have achieved many things but you obviously dont have an eye for bodybuilding as Grunt clearly displays good progress so far despite his setbacks. Now to say he has poor gains with regards to the amount of juice he is using shows you know nothing much about AAS use. Of course if he is now very far ahead of his natural genetic potential he is going to make slower gains when on AAS and will need increasing amounts of AAS (despite what some may say) to provide enough androgens for his greater upregulated receptros( we now know downregulation is a myth). I think the fact he continues to make overall gains show how good his training, nutrition and pharmacology are.

Just my 10c and only MY opinion of course.

My uncle isnt natural, i never said he was if you read what i said i said he hasnt taken as much gear, but has won 3 european titles.
And i do know what to look for in regards to aesthetics wich is why i commented. I agree that when you are a long way ahead of your genetic potential gains are slow and hard to come by, however i also think that anyone with an unbiased view would agree with what i said.
Russian

 

[Grunt76]

Which is why, I post this as a RECORD. A LOG.

What this means is: here is what I look like, this is what I do, this is the result. Not "Look at me I am so hot". Nothing like that. It is a simple record of what one person does and the results. Does that mean that someone else needs to do the same thing to get the same results? If someone believes that, they are in the wrong sport. Maybe they should take up playing chess instead.

Still, hopefully, this helps people who are in a SERIOUS process of finding out ideas of what is going on out there, what, how and why some bodybuilders do what they do, then this can help. Another thing, russianstar. You are looking at my log with your 22-year-old eyes. I was 23 when I started lifting. So ... You think your point of view is valid on my adventure? It most certainly is NOT. You started at 7 in athletics, and I started at an age you are yet to attain.

You comment "steroids are not magic pills you know, I think some great changes need to be made", getting on a high horse when you know nothing of the situation...

1. You have no idea what I look like in person. You wouldn't say "You make little progress". You would say "You are a monster".
2. What is a lot of steroids? Your uncle needs low doses? Good for him. Some guys take 350mg test and they get night sweats. I take 700mg tren and I sleep like a baby. There is no judging someone else's cycles. One's parameters are his own.
3. I have reached my genetic limit NATURALLY yet you insist on lecturing me about my steroid use. Which just shows that you are very judgemental but lack discernment.
4. You state that "clearly all you want is bulk" when I was leaning out in my last bout of my log. You can not read? You cannot see the pictures? You do not understand bulking then cutting?

Clearly your lack of understanding is having you post things that make you look foolish and uninformed. Maybe you are a good athlete but maybe also you do not understand many things about bodybuilding.

 

[datBtrue]

...And i do know what to look for in regards to aesthetics wich is why i commented...

No bro thats not why you commented. You posted solely to elevate yourself and diminish someone else.

There was no poor command of the English language. You chose your words to belittle or make fun of Grunt.

We both know it.

When I think of all the setbacks Grunt has had and when I remember where he started out with his physique I can not help but be proud of him. And when I see him attacked by a "barely wet behind the ears" "know it all" kid I feel protective of him.

Russianstar please don't be offended by what I am about to say but you don't know sh1t about sh1t.

...and yet you think you know it all. Hmmmm...by-the-way you need some MCT oil & spot injects & fascia stretching in a lot of places on your body in order to achieve balance & aesthetics.

OTC herbal sugar pills ain't going to get it done.