Drinking Hydrogen Peroxide/Oxygen Therapy

Drinking H202

MentalTwitch said:
So i was on youtube searching chemical reactions and one video to another i came across peoepl drinking and talking about "Oxygen Therapy"

First off, anyone ever heard of this?
Anyone ever do this?
Anyone know if there is any actuall benefits?

Someone posted this on youtube....
By the way, drinking H2O2 is NOT UNHEALTHY IN ANY WAY!!! What I mean is first you must take FOOD GRADE H2O2 35%(she is using 3% along with TOXIC ADDATIVES AND STABALIZERS!) you take 3 drops with a dropper, dilute is with DISTILLED WATER ONLY!, and drink on an EMPTY STOMACH ONLY! 2-3 hrs between eating a light meal. you may drink spring water NON chlorinated ;) YOU WILL BE SUPER HEALTHY IF DONE 3 TIMES A DAY FOR LIFE!

This is a good legit topic and i think the general needed one
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I started drinking H202 last night. The only difference between food grade and what you get off of the store shelves is the store shelf stuff is 3% and the food grade stuff is 35%, which you have to really dilute as it's quiet dangerous. There are also some stabilizer chemicals on the store shelf stuff, but I checked and it's already chemicals that are in the drinking AND distilled waters. So no real threat there. Even so, I am doing a major dillution of the store shelf stuff. 5 drops per quart to be drunk over 24 hours.

I've only done it for 24 hours but have had a surprising result: much less gas. Yeah, I do suffer from lots of gas. But I wasn't expecting it to have this effect. Worked almost as fast a liquid aloe vera.

Getting past the anti-radical vs free radical quandry it's something I'm trying to help ease my respitory issues. Oxygen therapy is primarily used to thin mucus and is often suggested for people with emphasima (? Spelling) and other breathing issues to use. I don't have ephasima (? Spelling, again), but I've had whooping cough twice in the last five years.

Anyways, that's my story.
 
ssmithford said:
... I am doing a major dillution of the store shelf stuff. 5 drops per quart to be drunk over 24 hours. ...
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That sounds like a pretty safe and non-toxic regimen. I probably inadvertently swallow 5 drops or more just when I gargle with 3% peroxide. Please keep us posted; we appreciate the data friend! Remember to prepare your dilutions fresh daily if you can.
 
Bionic said:
Hey Bio, there is also Ozone Therapy (O3). Same principle, though. Don't know how it works but I'm sure I read about the beneficial flora and fauna either being spared or replenished, somehow.
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Ozone is toxic.

I don't know if drinking low conc. h202 will hurt you but I can't see how it would help.

These schemes are typically created by someone with no medical background who reads some study and misunderstands it but wants to feel smart. Welcome to the internet, enjoy your stay.
 
i have been messing around with 35% food grade H202 for 4+ years.

It works. SAFETY FIRST. NO JOKE. This stuff will burn skin.

It is dangerous. I actually wear safety goggles when handling the 35% stuff out of the gallon. Once i get it in smaller containers I feel much safer......

One drop in an eye, and its done.

I drink it(diluted). Great way to clean the gut up. Start with weaker dilutions and work your way up.

I rarely use toothpaste. I used diluted H202..... works wonders. It gets up in the gums and cleans them out(most problems with tooth decay and disease-only thing better IMO is flossing)
I Do the noise, ear thing.
Spray the plants...
Clean toilets, sinks, etc.
H202 has many many uses.

Remember when you ingest it. It must be diluted properly! It must be food grade H202 and should be mixed with distilled water.

safety first!
 
dpfisher said:
Ozone is toxic.

I don't know if drinking low conc. h202 will hurt you but I can't see how it would help.

These schemes are typically created by someone with no medical background who reads some study and misunderstands it but wants to feel smart. Welcome to the internet, enjoy your stay.
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I must respectfully disagree with your statements.

H202 is an overall great product.

It must be respected and used properly.

H202 is safer than chlorine and will do just as good of job. 1-example, there are many
 
I was referring to the ozone thing from page 1 as potentially dangerous, but I don't know if he was talking about inhaling it or what exactly. Like I said I don't think low concentration h2o2 will hurt you because the body can effectively buffer it as long as the concentration is low enough.

I'm not hating on peroxide, it has tons of uses, although drinking it IMO isn't one of them. For gargling, sure. I use toothpaste with peroxide in it.

That thing myles quoted is pure pseudoscience BS though, on par with the claims that aspartame causes all modern illnesses. Are parts of it true? Probably. Does it sound reasonable at first glance? Sure. This is what makes these kinds of things effective. Look at drug ads from before the FDA was around, or those fake "articles" in popular science and related magazines with tiny print at the top of the page that says "advertisement section." I don't mean to be insulting but please use some critical thinking before putting something in your body. The old adage "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is" applies here. Stay safe guys.
 
dpfisher said:
I was referring to the ozone thing from page 1 as potentially dangerous, but I don't know if he was talking about inhaling it or what exactly. Like I said I don't think low concentration h2o2 will hurt you because the body can effectively buffer it as long as the concentration is low enough.

I'm not hating on peroxide, it has tons of uses, although drinking it IMO isn't one of them. For gargling, sure. I use toothpaste with peroxide in it.

That thing myles quoted is pure pseudoscience BS though, on par with the claims that aspartame causes all modern illnesses. Are parts of it true? Probably. Does it sound reasonable at first glance? Sure. This is what makes these kinds of things effective. Look at drug ads from before the FDA was around, or those fake "articles" in popular science and related magazines with tiny print at the top of the page that says "advertisement section." I don't mean to be insulting but please use some critical thinking before putting something in your body. The old adage "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is" applies here. Stay safe guys.
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my mistake.

Dont hot tubs retailers use that "ozone is good for you" pitch?
 
Kristofer68SS said:
Dont hot tubs retailers use that "ozone is good for you" pitch?
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I believe ozone is used for purification when you are not in the thing, not as something you are breathing while in the hot tub. Sounds like it would be a good way to prevent mold and bacteria, but I honestly don't know much about hot tubs or how well ozone purification works in water.

Ozone machines are a great way to get rid of smells and mildew and mold spores but you never ever want them running when you are in the house with them, and you have to air out the house a little afterwards. I think they even have warning stickers on them that say something to that effect.
 
dpfisher said:
I believe ozone is used for purification when you are not in the thing, not as something you are breathing while in the hot tub. Sounds like it would be a good way to prevent mold and bacteria, but I honestly don't know much about hot tubs or how well ozone purification works in water.

Ozone machines are a great way to get rid of smells and mildew and mold spores but you never ever want them running when you are in the house with them, and you have to air out the house a little afterwards. I think they even have warning stickers on them that say something to that effect.
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Buddy owns or used to own a franchise of Artic Spa's from canada.

Anyway one night I got in a tub and the O3 gave me a buzz. I swear to it. I sleep like a baby that night......

Here is some retailer O3 propaganda.
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this entire discussion is about the ingestion of an oxidizing agent. Oxidation occurs by the formation of radicals. There are all sorts of holistic websites that talk about free radicals and how only their products can truly quench them. They mainly come from fruits, veggies, nuts, grains. Eat well and you are fine. But exercise also creates radicals and your body has to learn how to create more antioxidant defenses to combat that. By drinking H2O2 you are creating more radicals for your body to fight off and overwhelming the system. Do some searching and look at the chemical reactions of free radicals- specifically pay attention to the initiation, propagation, and termination steps (as they are the only 3 steps anyway). One free radical starts a chain reaction. H2O2 starts the oxygen free radical reaction. While it may be true that peroxides can inhibit microorganisms, they do this by destroying cells. Hydrogen peroxide it is a by-product of the cell cycle and cells are equipped to deactivate these reactions but H2O2 as a microbial control overwhelms these mechanisms. Do you really think that an inorganic material can differentiate between the "good" vs "bad" cells? So looking at it simply, you may be killing some weak cells and some "bad" gut MO's but you are also repeatedly inducing the destruction, or worse, the mutation of good cells, DNA, and cell membranes. When in fact, the mechanisms for the body to rid itself of damaged cells are numerous but not infinite-otherwise we would be able to self-correct for cancerous cells and other disease precursors such as those thought to be responsible for Alzheimer's and others. Sure, you may have been swallowing this stuff for years and "you're fine" but it only takes one mutation to turn the gene on that makes a cell cancerous (ie-continual growth). The same principle holds for mutations in diseases-they happen all the time and the strength is in numbers. You might get 1000 cells that mutate into the "swine flu" but only one survives. The host has safeguards to kill those new cells. But safety is numbers so all you need is one healthy cell to break through those safeguards and you then have a problem. There is a reason pharmaceutical companies run research studies for years before they can even think about putting out a new drug-these effects aren't instantaneous. They have lasting effects that may not be seen for years or even decades after the fact. My sources-my next journal publication will consist of trials using various peroxides (H2O2 included) to bleach food products. The same mechanisms that make it work in food are the same mechanisms that destroy the antioxidants already in your body. H2O2 was very effective in destroying the compounds (antioxidants) that are touted to keep you safe.
 
In theory, the tiny amounts of peroxide that you consume trigger the release of several key antioxidants. The immune system actually produces H2O2 to kill off bacteria so it's not a totally foreign substance to the body.

Whether any of you try it or not, I really don't give a poo nor will I actively recommend it. But the argument is not as cut and dry as textbook chemistry.
 
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