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The new 1-T, questions.

Primordial Perf said:
It’s probably about 75% conversion to the original 1-AD and about 25% conversion to 1-Testosterone.

Plus, you have than anabolic/androgenic potential from the DHEA too.

-Pp
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ok now I more confused. I thought 1-AD converted to 1-test anyways. so would this mean that all of it converts to 1-test. As for you beta testers what results were they having.
 
Primordial Perf said:
Nahh… I would just focus on lifting and take a couple weeks off sex… redirect that sexual energy towards heavier weights.

If thats a problem you could try some intermittent doses of Sustain in the evening after a second shower. [eg, 6 pumps 5 days on, 2 days off]

-Pp
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A few weeks off from sex..... I don't understand....
 
ludacris007 said:
ok now I more confused. I thought 1-AD converted to 1-test anyways. so would this mean that all of it converts to 1-test. As for you beta testers what results were they having.
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Its a two step conversion. The 1-DHEA has to convert to 1-ad prior to converting to 1-test. I think what he ment is that 75% of what is absorbed becomes 1ad than 25% of that then becomes 1-t. The other 50% stays as 1ad. But that isn't all bad because the consensus is that 1ad has anabolic and androgenic effects on its own also. I really liked the original 1ad it was far safer than most of the crap out today. If this product works close to as good as that it would be freaking awsomeeeee.
 
ludacris007 said:
ok now I more confused. I thought 1-AD converted to 1-test anyways. so would this mean that all of it converts to 1-test. As for you beta testers what results were they having.
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Yes, 1-AD does convert to 1-test… but it doesn’t necessarily convert 100%. Some gets excreted, some converts to androsterone, ect.

Results from preliminary testers involved the breaking PR’s, breaking through walls, ect.

-Pp
 
Ari, you shouldn't be using prohormones now, but they might not be around (these ones) in 2 years when you turn 21, so you may as well buy some now and treat yourself. ;)
 
Primordial Perf said:
Yes, 1-AD does convert to 1-test… but it doesn’t necessarily convert 100%. Some gets excreted, some converts to androsterone, ect.

Results from preliminary testers involved the breaking PR’s, breaking through walls, ect.

-Pp
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I'm on my third day and already showing signs of acne
 
Yeah sex can take a lot of energy depending on how much or how intensely you do it. Taking a break is not a crazy idea.
 
I think the owner should be smacked with a rusty dumbbell. Too much hype and marketing for intelligent people to respond to. The proof of effectiveness lies with the marketer not the first time buyers. Anavar and test are cheaper so what is his point$$$???
 
schmekler said:
I think the owner should be smacked with a rusty dumbbell. Too much hype and marketing for intelligent people to respond to. The proof of effectiveness lies with the marketer not the first time buyers. Anavar and test are cheaper so what is his point$$$???
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What is your point? I see you have 2 posts. This is a respected company and board.
 
schmekler said:
I think the owner should be smacked with a rusty dumbbell. Too much hype and marketing for intelligent people to respond to. The proof of effectiveness lies with the marketer not the first time buyers. Anavar and test are cheaper so what is his point$$$???
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Cheaper...? Not for most people…. They are also illegal.

-Pp
 
schmekler said:
I think the owner should be smacked with a rusty dumbbell. Too much hype and marketing for intelligent people to respond to. The proof of effectiveness lies with the marketer not the first time buyers. Anavar and test are cheaper so what is his point$$$???
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I think you already got smacked several times with a rusty dumbell.
 
schmekler said:
I think the owner should be smacked with a rusty dumbbell. Too much hype and marketing for intelligent people to respond to. The proof of effectiveness lies with the marketer not the first time buyers. Anavar and test are cheaper so what is his point$$$???
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TROLL. who are you anyways man. early reviews have been good anyway. i would neg you twice but i cant. show some respect too.:welcome:
 
Hi Primordial Perf,
Sounds like a well thought out product. Do you think a little DMSO could help absorption? Also with transdermal products I usually do a quick rub down with rubbing alcohol to decrease surface bacteria and remove some oils on the skin. I have read that a vigorus run can help absorption, what do you think?
eat more turkey,
LardLad
 
hey, that should have been vigorous rub not run, a vigorous run could help though I guess, maybe not a bad question after all.
 
schmekler said:
I think the owner should be smacked with a rusty dumbbell. Too much hype and marketing for intelligent people to respond to. The proof of effectiveness lies with the marketer not the first time buyers. Anavar and test are cheaper so what is his point$$$???
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i would give him negs but he already has too much
 
I'm 180~ 5' 10"~ with middle experience in PH's

Running 4 pumps for 4 weeks + 3 weeks of SD@ 20/20/20 would pump out some crazy gains huh?

Thats what I'm leaning toward over Bold/PP only cuz it would be so wet.

What about Bold+1-T?
 
LardLad said:
Hi Primordial Perf,
Sounds like a well thought out product. Do you think a little DMSO could help absorption? Also with transdermal products I usually do a quick rub down with rubbing alcohol to decrease surface bacteria and remove some oils on the skin. I have read that a vigorus run can help absorption, what do you think?
eat more turkey,
LardLad
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This may be true for the pre-app of alcohol, but you will probably increase your chance of irritation by defatting the skin.

A pre-application of DMSO would also help, but IMO the smell is not worth the slight increase in permeation. Our 5.0 topical is already very well absorbed.

-Pp
 
DavidCream said:
I'm 180~ 5' 10"~ with middle experience in PH's

Running 4 pumps for 4 weeks + 3 weeks of SD@ 20/20/20 would pump out some crazy gains huh?

Thats what I'm leaning toward over Bold/PP only cuz it would be so wet.

What about Bold+1-T?
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Yeah, the SD and 1-T would be a good stack.

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
This may be true for the pre-app of alcohol, but you will probably increase your chance of irritation by defatting the skin.

A pre-application of DMSO would also help, but IMO the smell is not worth the slight increase in permeation. Our 5.0 topical is already very well absorbed.

-Pp
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Agreed. The smell of DMSO is just plain bad - bleh!

I want to run this 1-T product with my surplus of Epistane, but I'm somewhat sensitive to DHEA products. Thinking though, thinking indeed...
 
I had a similar experience with oral ingested DHEA, but it went away with decreased dosing. If you pre-load with T8 and Endoamp for 10-14 days you may be able to offset that. In addition the 1-T is topical so your reaction may differ. I wouldnt let nipple irritation get in my way. Get the TRS too.
 
Knowbull said:
I had a similar experience with oral ingested DHEA, but it went away with decreased dosing. If you pre-load with T8 and Endoamp for 10-14 days you may be able to offset that. In addition the 1-T is topical so your reaction may differ. I wouldnt let nipple irritation get in my way. Get the TRS too.
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Damn, I might as well buy every item Pp has then, eh?
I'll do some more research on it, though.
Thanks.
 
would a PCT of

Reversitol - Iforce
Post cycle Support - Anabolic Innovation
Lean xtreme - DS sports (previously designer supplement)

be okay? lasts 4 weeks
 
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ari4216 said:
true,true

i just know when i started doing this type of stuff, i wont be messing with phera, because its the most wet at of all the designers.

But yeah, almost everything is user dependent though,too many variables.
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I really dont think you know what your talking about there Ari and really need to stop spouting out suggestions like you do when you dont have a clue what your saying.

Phera wasnt "wet" in the least for me. Wet pertains to estrogen conversion and bloat. M1T is wet, Dbol is wet, Phera is NOT wet, not even as much as Test is...... Phera can cause SOME bloat in some guys but should have minimal to zero estrogen conversion and for me was VERY dry.

Now if you were to say phera was one of the Designers biggest Mass builders then that would be accurate, it tops Superdrol for me even. But IMO its not to be considered "wet" and by no means can be called the MOST WET when there are prohormones to Dbol out there as well.

so again man, chill on your misinformation, its getting annoying.
 
Iron Lungz said:
I'm really itching to do a cycle... that's for sure. I just want to have every bit of information at hand so I can make the best decision .
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FWIW IL, you know my condition and sensitivity to gyno inducing compounds and I think the Epi offsets any possible problems with Estrogen that this may potentially cause. I am at 40mg Epi right now since starting 1-T and Im doing great. no inflammation whatsoever.
 
poopypants said:
FWIW IL, you know my condition and sensitivity to gyno inducing compounds and I think the Epi offsets any possible problems with Estrogen that this may potentially cause. I am at 40mg Epi right now since starting 1-T and Im doing great. no inflammation whatsoever.
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Yeah, I've been paying attention to your dosage and overall feelings. I'm going to order some since it's on sale (7%) and wait until you're in PCT to see where you are then.
 
you know that there is a 20% deal on the PP boards themselves right??? havnt done the math yet to see which is cheaper overall, just throwin that out there for ya.
 
ya I knew that would also be a possible factor... NP is great so I figured youd be picking up more then one thing at a time, just wanted to shoot you a heads up in case you hadnt seen it.
 
poopypants said:
ya I knew that would also be a possible factor... NP is great so I figured youd be picking up more then one thing at a time, just wanted to shoot you a heads up in case you hadnt seen it.
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Yeah, I received an email from Pp.com today.
I also needed some more BCAA's, 1 more bottle of PRIME (PCT add), and a few other goodies in bulk ;)
Thanks for the heads up, though.
 
DMSO smells?? no one at the fish market has ever complained. Of course I do have that nick-name, SMELLY.
 
poopypants said:
I really dont think you know what your talking about there Ari and really need to stop spouting out suggestions like you do when you dont have a clue what your saying.

Phera wasnt "wet" in the least for me. Wet pertains to estrogen conversion and bloat. M1T is wet, Dbol is wet, Phera is NOT wet, not even as much as Test is...... Phera can cause SOME bloat in some guys but should have minimal to zero estrogen conversion and for me was VERY dry.

Now if you were to say phera was one of the Designers biggest Mass builders then that would be accurate, it tops Superdrol for me even. But IMO its not to be considered "wet" and by no means can be called the MOST WET when there are prohormones to Dbol out there as well.

so again man, chill on your misinformation, its getting annoying.
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I wouldnt call it misinformation, but yes, i will chill.:drunk:

Like i said its user-dependent, it wasnt "wet for you, but ive heard a lot of people said it was "wet for them.

Pheraplex:
Innovator: Designer Supplements
Nomenclature: 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol
Pill Size: 10mg
Dosages: 10-40mg
Side Effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profile, lower back and calf pumps, some users report aggrevation of gynecomastia with this compound.
Reputation: Solid product for bulking. Wet gains. It is a sometimes used to jumpstart an injectable cycle. This is the less androgenic isomer in the Ergomax LMG matrix.

Of course dianabol is wet,but thats not a designer steriod. M1T is a prohormone to dianabol, so it would be wet as well. There are also Ergomax LMG and Max LMG which are also wet.(information found from anabolicminds.com)
So ill reprase it Pheraplex is a wet comound.
Sometimes i misphrase my comment, and no its not because im stupid, i dont have the time to spell check everything and make shure everything i say came out right.
and please also dont make any jokes about my grammer or spelling, as i get that frequently.It's annoying as well. Lots of things annoy people, just ignore them.

Besides the point i dont know ALOT about this stuff, which is why im trying to learn. And it wasnt a suggestion, it was a comment, and by no means i was trying to provide information to anyone, i was stating an opinion of mine.I was really talking about myself,it wouldnt be good for me,because im sensitive to estrogen.
 
ari4216 said:
Of course dianabol is wet,but thats not a designer steriod. M1T is a prohormone to dianabol, so it would be wet as well. There are also Ergomax LMG and Max LMG which are also wet.(information found from anabolicminds.com)
So ill reprase it Pheraplex is a wet comound.
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That was from an anecdotal thread made by a member here and he used info gathered from members here on the board... still they dont know everything, neither does he and either way no one stated its the MOST wet designer out there.

Max LMG definitely IS wet and more so then any of the others imo.

Also you did it again... M1T is NOT a prohormone to dbol, M1,4ADD is a prohormone to Dbol. M1T is methylated 1-Test, an completely active STEROID all on its own and does not convert like a prohormone. It was part of the first Designer steroids released but has been banned since jan 2005 and can only be found in limited supplies and its now illegal.

Either way man dont worry I wont dog on you for misspelling or grammar or stuff like that, I type fast and mess up all the time and if firefox didnt have an auto spell check as you type id be screwed..... I just dont like seeing stuff spouted off as fact when its completely FUBAR and not true all together or skewed.
 
poopypants said:
That was from an anecdotal thread made by a member here and he used info gathered from members here on the board... still they dont know everything, neither does he and either way no one stated its the MOST wet designer out there.

Max LMG definitely IS wet and more so then any of the others imo.

Also you did it again... M1T is NOT a prohormone to dbol, M1,4ADD is a prohormone to Dbol. M1T is methylated 1-Test, an completely active STEROID all on its own and does not convert like a prohormone. It was part of the first Designer steroids released but has been banned since jan 2005 and can only be found in limited supplies and its now illegal.

Either way man dont worry I wont dog on you for misspelling or grammar or stuff like that, I type fast and mess up all the time and if firefox didnt have an auto spell check as you type id be screwed..... I just dont like seeing stuff spouted off as fact when its completely FUBAR and not true all together or skewed.
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I agree with you 100%, Poop.
Great post!
 
my bad

im not trying to provide misinformation, but thats what happens on this forum, lots of anecdotal evidence,what else can you do.
Then theres lots of misinformation on anabolicminds,not just me, but yeah i ussually try not to post about anything related to gear,ill do this in the future,more so.

but by the way im the one who started the thread, and i started it becuase i wanted answers to questions i had

sorry if u felt annoyed,there can be lots of annoying people on here.
 
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