Yet another Prime dissapointment

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USPLabs said:
PM administration of this board and ask this question"

"Admin has there been NUMEROUS reports of IPs being tracked to other company reps that opened a shill account to attack USPlabs"
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Obviously your reply has nothing to do with what Nabisco was talking about, but I hope you're not implying that I created a shill account to attack USPlabs...
 
Force of Green said:
I am glad you got results Fastone. Is the underlined statement a fair resemblence of what an adaptogen should/would do? We're talking about a product with a sale tag of over 55-60 dollars... and that's for the minimum required, effective dose. Relora is 11-13 dollars for a month of effective results and has had it's effectiveness documented time and time again. You will get an increase in well-being, endurance, and muscle mass along with great sleep enhancement.

I don't know... I'm just wondering if mediocrity is worth the price tag. I'm leaving personal issues out and just debating from now on.
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yeah fog, i like relora as well.

no offense man, but i would value your opinion on prime more if you had actually tried it yourself.
 
Hank Vangut said:
who cares what the logs say.
who cares what the feedback is.
it only matters if it works for you. no one else should matter.
buy it and try it!
and if you are afraid of disappointment......don't buy any supplements ever.
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Well doing your research is definately important in this day and age where it seems everyone is trying to make a buck off uninformed consumers. Especially in the supplement industry. But I completely agree that if you're afraid of dissapointment, stick with protein and multivitamin and you can avoid it.
 
crzyyoungn said:
Well doing your research is definately important in this day and age where it seems everyone is trying to make a buck off uninformed consumers. Especially in the supplement industry. But I completely agree that if you're afraid of dissapointment, stick with protein and multivitamin and you can avoid it.
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Muscletech just came out with a multi-vitamin. You'll never feel the same without it!
 
B5150 said:
When someone claims it didn't work then blames their choice on "the hype" it suggests that the product was forced upon them and their money was taken from them against their will. Some may see that as an attack on the company.

The "experienced" members (implies 30-40-50yo) here have seen newbie kids and young men who are clueless in regards to diet and training. The major majority on this board are clueless in matters of diet and training regardless of what you would like to believe. More times then not they have tremendous flaws in both areas and yet expect "the product" of choice to reward them somehow and when it does not they blame the product and "the hype".

A statement like "Before you ask me my diet and workout are effectively designed" is worthless and has been discerned here as such time and time again.

EDIT: Misinformed statement
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The product is definately pumped with hype/advertising, as I said in a previous post, but I never blamed anyone for my decision to fork over my hard earned cash.

If you're implying that my workout/diet is off then I probably would'nt have made consistent progress with no products at all let alone with the product. If it holds any merit I'm a NASM certified personal trainer and although I know there are many sh*tty trainers out there I personally pride my self on the amount of knowledge I have and continue to gain by consistent education in all things fitness related. I'm sure there are tons of newbs out there but I WAS making gains without any product. I was expecting a mild boost which I didn't recieve. This has nothing to do with my workout/diet but has to do with the fact that Prime did not perform any of the proposed effects in my body.
 
Rugger said:
It's simple. If you hate prime, don't buy it and tell your friends not to buy it. If you like it, buy it and tell your friends to buy it. Let the cards fall where they may. There's no arguing a queen from a 5 once she lay face up on the table.
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word
 
As an aside, you may consider making one post with a summary of comments for brevity's sake. You have 56 posts and they are all in this thread.

:D
 
Mulletsoldier said:
As an aside, you may consider making one post with a summary of comments for brevity's sake. You have 56 posts and they are all in this thread.

:D
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lulz

Yeah I know but I just recently got a trojan that makes it so that no matter what I cut/copy it pastes the name of a website where the infected program wants me to buy its "antivirus" program. I can't believe anyone would actually fall for this scam but I guess there's more than a share of idiots out there.
 
Hank Vangut said:
where's the fun in a thread with only honest results? boring........:yawn:
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I could be misinterpreting these replies but from what I can tell people are implying that I made this thread to bash USP's Prime, which is not the case at all. It was just honest feedback from someone who tried the product long enough to make a statement about its efficacy. It seems like when someone posts good feedback everyone wants to jump on the prime wagon but when they dont it's either because he's a hater,bad diet/workout,inexperienced working out, or my favorite..."look at his post count".
 
crzyyoungn said:
The product is definately pumped with hype/advertising, as I said in a previous post, but I never blamed anyone for my decision to fork over my hard earned cash.

If you're implying that my workout/diet is off then I probably would'nt have made consistent progress with no products at all let alone with the product. If it holds any merit I'm a NASM certified personal trainer and although I know there are many sh*tty trainers out there I personally pride my self on the amount of knowledge I have and continue to gain by consistent education in all things fitness related. I'm sure there are tons of newbs out there but I WAS making gains without any product. I was expecting a mild boost which I didn't recieve. This has nothing to do with my workout/diet but has to do with the fact that Prime did not perform any of the proposed effects in my body.
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I meant not to discredit competence or your sincerity.

Honestly, even the positive feedback that products receive on message boards across the net is unobjective.
 
zzz zzz zzz . . . .
 
My $.02:
I do believe in the existence of "non-responders." I get abso-freakin-lutely nothing out of PowerFull, whereas Cissus is possibly my most valued supp ever. At my age, having suffered through severe tendonitis issues, I don't think I'd be lifting anymore if it weren't for the miracle we call Cissus. But I haven't tried Prime yet...
 
ImJ2x said:
My $.02:
I do believe in the existence of "non-responders." I get abso-freakin-lutely nothing out of PowerFull, whereas Cissus is possibly my most valued supp ever. At my age, having suffered through severe tendonitis issues, I don't think I'd be lifting anymore if it weren't for the miracle we call Cissus. But I haven't tried Prime yet...
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Cissus reversed some of the fudge-ups with my wrist and shoulder.
 
ImJ2x said:
My $.02:
I do believe in the existence of "non-responders." I get abso-freakin-lutely nothing out of PowerFull, whereas Cissus is possibly my most valued supp ever. At my age, having suffered through severe tendonitis issues, I don't think I'd be lifting anymore if it weren't for the miracle we call Cissus. But I haven't tried Prime yet...
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I am one to really really like PowerFull and respond every time as if it's my first time taking it. Sleep is always deep and feel refreshed in the morning, it has never failed actually. For cissus... I took it and gyno started to itch and flare up after a week or so.. No I didn't just come off a cycle, or pct...nothing. Just straight cissus. Take what you want from it, I am just posting my personal experience. I hope it works for everyone else though.
 
strategicmove said:
That is a strong proposition. What is the basis for that split? I have not sampled a representative population of PRIME users, but experience and intuition suggest that more non-responders are likely to share their experience than responders, implying that the ratio of responders to non-responders would be far higher than your proposed 50/50.


Why would that be BS? What would be the person's motive to distort information? If it was a non-sponsored log, as I suppose it would be, why would he misrepresent facts? And who says everyone must experience PRIME, or any other supplement, the same way?
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You really ask why? Its the internet, and ALOT of people lie and talk out of their ass. I would wonder why some one would lie about that also, but I would not doubt that some one WOULD lie about it.
 
B5150 said:
No offense Hank, but I would value your opinion more if you would see there is no value in his opinion. ;)
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No offense, B5150, but I would value your opinion more, if you could get him to get Hank to convince him that there was a chance that your opinion of Hank dependend on Hank seeing there was only tangential value in the opinion he expressed earlier that attracted Hank's revision of Hank's initial opinion of him! :) :frustrate
 
To the author of this thread. I respect that you are an non-responder and know that there are some that are. Just respect the fact that there are many who respond quite favourably. That's all I ask. I won't tell you how you are supposed to respond and you don't tell me that my response is from anything but honest feedback. I know you didn't but there was someone who posted "the mind is a powerfull thing" and it got me miffed.

There are so many people trying to discredit this product, I know that the 3 people that I have had experiences with me, my son and my former training partner have had very positive experiences.
 
That is kind of the fun of it all, the anticipation of this next product possibly helping you get to what ever goals you have for yourself. Sure it's a disappointment when it does not produce but the funny part(supplement companies smile) is that you will continue to search for that response. This is fun!!
 
I havent been on in awhile, to read everything guys but I have been following on PRIME.

Lets just say this, I had huge doubts about recreate. In return jacob offered me to try recreate. He gave me 2 bottles and gave me a ton of other stuff. If i recall it was at least 5-6 bottles worth of recreate/ap/pslin

Now Ill admit that with the amount of stuff he gave me it almost made me feel bad to say that recreate wasnt that great. (I was dropping weight but when you drop your calories by 500, thats expected) I havent tried prime nor would I buy it due to such unstable reviews. One person may swear by it, and another says its complete crap. Thats enough for me when the reviews are so varied.

As someone who is/was known on the boards, I have to say that recieving the product and using it, I didnt mind that it wasnt super crazy. It did help, a tad, but nothing worth paying that amount of money for. With that in mind, some people would either hate it cause they just blew 100 bucks on something and didnt see 100 bucks worth of results thus resulting in people calling it "hype"

Ill get to the point, Had I bought recreate, i would have been one of those very angry customers lets just say but i wasnt.
 
strategicmove said:
No offense, B5150, but I would value your opinion more, if you could get him to get Hank to convince him that there was a chance that your opinion of Hank dependend on Hank seeing there was only tangential value in the opinion he expressed earlier that attracted Hank's revision of Hank's initial opinion of him! :) :frustrate
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Nice, LOL! Did you get that B5150?
 
Fastone said:
My theory on Prime is this. I had a positive experience from it so, past that I don't really care what anybody else has to say about it. Was I picking up and pressing buildings, no. Can I now get on stage with the Olympians, no but I did experience an increase in strength,energy, recovery and overall well being so, I feel that it's a beneficial product. If it works for you great, if it doesn't, don't buy anymore and move on, simple enough.

:bruce3:
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I think with any product no matter how good it is, some won't benefit from it. I also think that if USP Labs advertised their product to be so so, they would have so so sales results. I also feel that they truly believe in their products and Isn't success what we're all after?

I forgot to mention that I gained 5.5 lbs over the 30 days, my waist narrowed and I hardened up a bit, This was while doing a routine that was more aerobic in nature as I was unable to use heavy weights leading up to my shoulder surgery on Oct 31. I dosed 6 caps in the 5 on 2 off manner btw.

:bruce3:
 
Cellardude said:
I havent been on in awhile, to read everything guys but I have been following on PRIME.

Lets just say this, I had huge doubts about recreate. In return jacob offered me to try recreate. He gave me 2 bottles and gave me a ton of other stuff. If i recall it was at least 5-6 bottles worth of recreate/ap/pslin

Now Ill admit that with the amount of stuff he gave me it almost made me feel bad to say that recreate wasnt that great. (I was dropping weight but when you drop your calories by 500, thats expected) I havent tried prime nor would I buy it due to such unstable reviews. One person may swear by it, and another says its complete crap. Thats enough for me when the reviews are so varied.

As someone who is/was known on the boards, I have to say that recieving the product and using it, I didnt mind that it wasnt super crazy. It did help, a tad, but nothing worth paying that amount of money for. With that in mind, some people would either hate it cause they just blew 100 bucks on something and didnt see 100 bucks worth of results thus resulting in people calling it "hype"

Ill get to the point, Had I bought recreate, i would have been one of those very angry customers lets just say but i wasnt.
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Yo, CD... Where the hell have you been? Long time no speak/post, whatever. Drop me a PM...
 
Usplabs did not sponsor any prime logs, but they did write that they will send you free bottles of prime to anyone that writes a review on NP. This is genius. People bought a bottle for maybe $30-$55 Then they write a review of it to get i believe it was 5 free bottles not 100% sure. So they are selling bottles instead of giving them out and people are logging there results hoping they would win free bottles. whether it works or not 5 bottles will get you over $200. So spending $30-$50 gets you a chance to get free supplements that you can take or sell. Pure genius if you ask me. Why have 10 people do a log that you sponsor when you can have 100 un sponsored logs by giving the logger a chance to win 5 bottles. I think this is a great way for a company to sell there products and make more money. 10x More positive reviews (and yes people will lie to get free ****) at no cost, In the end you just have to decide is $55 worth the gamble? for me it didn't work I bought 2 bottles at $30 each so i wasted $60, but if you bought from USPlabs you get a refund if you did not like it so really the only thing i'll have to pay is shipping and handling to send the empty bottles back. Ohh yeah still waiting on my reply about my refund from usplabs, its been a few days since i emailed you guys.
 
SokVichet said:
Nice, LOL! Did you get that B5150?
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I am sure B5150 understands it was meant as a joke! :D I played on the same theme he used in his earlier response to Hank's comment.
 
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