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TripDog said:
Diesel Test Hardcore- 2/1/1
Diesel Test 2010- 2/1/1
Ether Tabs- 5 post workout
JP8- 2 scoops pre workout
Diesel Fuel- 2 pre workout
Sunami 1/1/1

I really think the aggression is getting noticed by others. Like at work I seem a tad snappy at people...ahahahahaha. There is some def changes happining in the hormonal department. I really can't describe the overall well being that it brings with it. Workouts are unreal, and training 7 days a week basically. Mostly full body everyday, 2 sets per exercise, 2 exercises per bodypart usually. I kinda like this cause I can train everyday. Appetite is great, libido is down a tad but I can still bang the entire female senior class at the local high school, and have room for a workout after. YUP!

Keeps it reals,
T-Dizzle
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Good deal. Keep tearin' sh*t up!
 
QUOTE=TripDog;1636150] libido is down a tad but I can still bang the entire female senior class at the local high school, and have room for a workout after.


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haha same except i was thingin bout the cheer sqaud muhahaha:smite:
 
I can attest to all statements about the aggression, the intense workouts. I got my JP8 today, and had an awesome workout. Got my log posted. OH yeah, JP8 is great, but Trip man, that stuff taste like shiznitt, but I can get used to it. I thought Vault tasted bad. Won't give it up though. Keep blasting Trip Drizzle. BTW, Trip I am thinking of taking just DT2010 2/1/1 then Just DTH the next day (no sunami on either day), to see the effects. Will still take jp8 pre workout of course. Any thoughts.
 
TripDog said:
libido is down a tad but I can still bang the entire female senior class at the local high school, and have room for a workout after. YUP!
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didn't i tell you this just last night, that's ILLEGAL! haha need a wingman? lol
 
Irish Cannon said:
Ya, I don't know who started the whole ATD-hate, but I've always loved the stuff. It has never done me wrong.
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just comin in to jump on the ATD lover bandwagon... actually dose it at the rec 75 mg and high as 100mg a night/spread out and either way I run it I seem to actually get a libido BOOST... dunno who all these guys are getting their libido killed but IMO with such an awesome compound altogether (gives me some killer strength) I would rather low dose it then not at all if libido becomes an issue.
 
wtf? how is that possible? I doubt it.

I know that ATD in fact has a strong affinity for binding with the AR so maybe they assume it will block other androgens from binding... but it will first and formost bind with aromatase.... so if the doses are high THEN you may see binding with the AR... BUT whos to say its not exerting its own effect on the AR thus causing the dandy strength gains?

I feel that steroidal AI's in general and especially ATD actually have more of an independant/direct effect that makes them so powerfull rather then just an indirect boosting of the test through lowered estrogen thats giving the strength gains as Ive taken plain old test boosters before BUT they pale in comparison to ATD, trione and formestane.... this further leads me to believe that the binding with the AR isnt deactivating it (giving the so called anti androgenic effect some may be claiming) but is actually a potent androgen itself and is doing a great job at exerting an effect on the AR all the while blocking est and boosting test.


Considering that these are STEROIDAL AI's I have always played with the idea of super high dosing one for almost a cycle like run as it will inevitably be suppressive at that dose to see what it has to offer.... my only worry is what it will do to estrogen levels and consequently my joints and overall health.
 
poopypants said:
wtf? how is that possible? I doubt it.

I know that ATD in fact has a strong affinity for binding with the AR so maybe they assume it will block other androgens from binding... but it will first and formost bind with aromatase.... so if the doses are high THEN you may see binding with the AR... BUT whos to say its not exerting its own effect on the AR thus causing the dandy strength gains?

I feel that steroidal AI's in general and especially ATD actually have more of an independant/direct effect that makes them so powerfull rather then just an indirect boosting of the test through lowered estrogen thats giving the strength gains as Ive taken plain old test boosters before BUT they pale in comparison to ATD, trione and formestane.... this further leads me to believe that the binding with the AR isnt deactivating it (giving the so called anti androgenic effect some may be claiming) but is actually a potent androgen itself and is doing a great job at exerting an effect on the AR all the while blocking est and boosting test.


Considering that these are STEROIDAL AI's I have always played with the idea of super high dosing one for almost a cycle like run as it will inevitably be suppressive at that dose to see what it has to offer.... my only worry is what it will do to estrogen levels and consequently my joints and overall health.
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maybe you can run it with dhea, or transdermal dhea like with what u said with epistane and run cissus for joints.
But then u have to worry about estrogen rebound.
im just wondering poops, u experience increased heart rate with atd?
Also ran across a great article about using clomid as a natural test booster on another site, and the doctor/steriod guru showed how not there is a limit to how much u can take,more is not neccessarily better. there seems to be a sweet point with anti-estrogens.But clomid is not steriod, but still i think it can be used to show how other anti-estrogens might. work . i cant find the article right now though.
 
ari4216 said:
maybe you can run it with dhea, or transdermal dhea like with what u said with epistane and run cissus for joints.
But then u have to worry about estrogen rebound.
im just wondering poops, u experience increased heart rate with atd?
Also ran across a great article about using clomid as a natural test booster on another site, and the doctor/steriod guru showed how not there is a limit to how much u can take,more is not neccessarily better. there seems to be a sweet point with anti-estrogens.But clomid is not steriod, but still i think it can be used to show how other anti-estrogens might. work . i cant find the article right now though.
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That would be quite interesting to read.
 
ex-tightend83 said:
That would be quite interesting to read.
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whoops i said clomid i meant Letrozole, which is an ai
heres the article
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it says,
* 0.02 mg of Letrozole increased testosterone by 45% after 2 days
* 0.1 mg of Letrozole increased testosterone by 49% after 2 days
* 0.5 mg of Letrozole increased testosterone by 48% after 2 days
* 1 mg of Letrozole increased testosterone by 41% after 2 days
* 2.5 mg of Letrozole increased testosterone by 74% after 3 days
* 10 mg of Letrozole increased testosterone by 97% after 2 days
* 30 mg of Letrozole increased testosterone by 113% after 3 days

i did find an anabolicminds thread on clomid about the same use though,
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/post-cycle-therapy/100290-clomid-natty-test.html
 
ari4216 said:
whoops i said clomid i meant Letrozole, which is an ai
heres the article
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it says,
* 0.02 mg of Letrozole increased testosterone by 45% after 2 days
* 0.1 mg of Letrozole increased testosterone by 49% after 2 days
* 0.5 mg of Letrozole increased testosterone by 48% after 2 days
* 1 mg of Letrozole increased testosterone by 41% after 2 days
* 2.5 mg of Letrozole increased testosterone by 74% after 3 days
* 10 mg of Letrozole increased testosterone by 97% after 2 days
* 30 mg of Letrozole increased testosterone by 113% after 3 days

i did find an anabolicminds thread on clomid about the same use though,
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/post-cycle-therapy/100290-clomid-natty-test.html
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Thats a great find man...reps.
 
ari4216 said:
maybe you can run it with dhea, or transdermal dhea like with what u said with epistane and run cissus for joints.
But then u have to worry about estrogen rebound.
im just wondering poops, u experience increased heart rate with atd?
Also ran across a great article about using clomid as a natural test booster on another site, and the doctor/steriod guru showed how not there is a limit to how much u can take,more is not neccessarily better. there seems to be a sweet point with anti-estrogens.But clomid is not steriod, but still i think it can be used to show how other anti-estrogens might. work . i cant find the article right now though.
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well the only time i monitored my heart rate on ATD was when I was taking 75mg ATD spread out through the day at the same time as taking 4.5 (3x1.5mg) of M-TRN ed...

well my heart rate, resting, was 48-55bpm... so Id say a big no, in fact just the opposite.
 
poopypants said:
well the only time i monitored my heart rate on ATD was when I was taking 75mg ATD spread out through the day at the same time as taking 4.5 (3x1.5mg) of M-TRN ed...

well my heart rate, resting, was 48-55bpm... so Id say a big no, in fact just the opposite.
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ATD has never bothered my heart rate nor blood pressure. But the M-TRN you mentioned is the only compound that really elevates my blood pressure. I mean way up there! 180/95 and sh!t like that. I always mega-dose Hawthorn Berries when I run that stuff. Up to 4 grams per day to keep blood pressure even in the 140/85 range. My normal rate is 118/74. I still have 2 bottles of M-TRN in stash. Will I run them? :think: Hel to the fukkin' yes!!! :head: But still, this is very strange to me, as I have just come off a cycle of "real" Oral Trenbolone (methly trienolone) and it didn't jack up my blood pressure like the M-TRN does. But Oral Trenbolone was a LOT stronger of course.
 
thundergod said:
ATD has never bothered my heart rate nor blood pressure. But the M-TRN you mentioned is the only compound that really elevates my blood pressure. I mean way up there! 180/95 and sh!t like that. I always mega-dose Hawthorn Berries when I run that stuff. Up to 4 grams per day to keep blood pressure even in the 140/85 range. My normal rate is 118/74. I still have 2 bottles of M-TRN in stash. Will I run them? :think: Hel to the fukkin' yes!!! :head: But still, this is very strange to me, as I have just come off a cycle of "real" Oral Trenbolone (methly trienolone) and it didn't jack up my blood pressure like the M-TRN does. But Oral Trenbolone was a LOT stronger of course.
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i guess different people have different respones
 
thundergod said:
ATD has never bothered my heart rate nor blood pressure. But the M-TRN you mentioned is the only compound that really elevates my blood pressure. I mean way up there! 180/95 and sh!t like that. I always mega-dose Hawthorn Berries when I run that stuff. Up to 4 grams per day to keep blood pressure even in the 140/85 range. My normal rate is 118/74. I still have 2 bottles of M-TRN in stash. Will I run them? :think: Hel to the fukkin' yes!!! :head: But still, this is very strange to me, as I have just come off a cycle of "real" Oral Trenbolone (methly trienolone) and it didn't jack up my blood pressure like the M-TRN does. But Oral Trenbolone was a LOT stronger of course.
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WTF? methyl tren? for real??? that shii is supposed to make methyl 1-test look like skittles!

what were your doses length and results? also where in the hell did you find someone selling this poison!?!? are you sure it was legit?
 
DAy 25

Diesel Test Hardcore- 2/1/1
Diesel Test 2010- 2/1/1
Ether Tabs- 5 afternoon
Diesel Fuel- 2 mid afternoon
Sunami 1/1/1



Tomorrow I will be adding.........

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NOS ETHER!!

Probably going to try a dose pre and post workout at first to get a feel.

Been kinda sick the last 3 days and started on antibiotics. Got a nasty cold and fighting it off. Sorry for the crap updates, havent been feeling that well. Appetite has been straight sh*tty. I guess one more reason not to move to new Hampshire!!! Everyone is fukcin sick around here. Makes me wanna do some serious drop kicking ,and elbow dropping on them sickly fukcs! Did I mention everyone is fat up here also.....:sick:
 
Forgive me for this Trip, but how come you other guys not commenting on my log? Thanks for your comments Trip.
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I mean I don't push tons of weight but show a little love:sad:
Or am I missing something from my logs? If so, guide me please.
 
TripDog said:
Diesel Test Hardcore- 2/1/1
Diesel Test 2010- 2/1/1
Ether Tabs- 5 afternoon
Diesel Fuel- 2 mid afternoon
Sunami 1/1/1



Tomorrow I will be adding.........

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NOS ETHER!!

Probably going to try a dose pre and post workout at first to get a feel.

Been kinda sick the last 3 days and started on antibiotics. Got a nasty cold and fighting it off. Sorry for the crap updates, havent been feeling that well. Appetite has been straight sh*tty. I guess one more reason not to move to new Hampshire!!! Everyone is fukcin sick around here. Makes me wanna do some serious drop kicking ,and elbow dropping on them sickly fukcs! Did I mention everyone is fat up here also.....:sick:
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yeah, man i knew ud add this Nos Ether. But wait so no more Jp8?well uve got that diesel fuel to combine with it. Nos Ether is good for the stregth, but doesnt have stims like JP8. I recently combined Nos Ether with superpump 250 pre-workout with great results.
 
ari4216 said:
yeah, man i knew ud add this Nos Ether. But wait so no more Jp8?well uve got that diesel fuel to combine with it. Nos Ether is good for the stregth, but doesnt have stims like JP8
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I'm gonna keep the JP8 but i'm almost out so I only have enough for a week prolly.
 
Trip you getting too many reps man, I can't give you any more, so I will give you a shout out here. Thanks for your support. Chuck made a good decision chooing you for the position.
 
ari4216 said:
is it true that atd is anti-androgenic, i heard this somewhere.
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The study done used very high doses of ATD, as you could imagine. The equivalent dose in humans was huge.
BigVrunga said:
This might explain why some people, myself included, experience a complete libido shutdown on average doses of ATD.

However, in the study it does say they used 15mg/day on a rat. A male rat weighs about .6kg, and that's a dose of ~25mg/kg. At an average dose of 50mg for 200lb, or 90kg human male, that's 1.5mg/kg.

Big difference in the dose/weight ratio there.

Even still, Im not a fan of ATD at doses over 15mg - for PCT I vastly prefer 6-OXO.

BV
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There is this 1989 study, that found
The aromatization hypothesis asserts that testosterone (T) must be aromatized to estradiol (E2) to activate copulatory behavior in the male rat. In support of this hypothesis, the aromatization inhibitor, ATD, has been found to suppress male sexual behavior in T-treated rats. In our experiment, we first replicated this finding by peripherally injecting ATD (15 mg/day) or propylene glycol into T-treated (two 10-mm Silastic capsules) or control castrated male rats. In a second experiment, we bilaterally implanted either ATD-filled or blank cannulae into the medial preoptic area (MPOA) of either T-treated or control castrated male rats. With this more local distribution of ATD, a lesser decline in sexual behavior was found, suggesting that other brain areas are involved in the neurohormonal activation of copulatory behavior in the male rat. To determine whether in vivo ATD interacts with androgen or estrogen receptors, we conducted cell nuclear androgen and estrogen receptor binding assays of hypothalamus, preoptic area, amygdala, and septum following treatment with the combinations of systemic T alone. ATD plus T, ATD alone, and blank control. In all four brain areas binding of T to androgen receptors was significantly decreased in the presence of ATD, suggesting that ATD may act both as an androgen receptor blocker and as an aromatization inhibitor. Competitive binding studies indicated that ATD competes in vitro for cytosol androgen receptors, thus substantiating the in vivo antiandrogenic effects of ATD. Cell nuclear estrogen receptor binding was not significantly increased by exposure to T in the physiological range. No agonistic properties of ATD were observed either behaviorally or biochemically. Thus, an alternative explanation for the inhibitory effects of ATD on male sexual behavior is that ATD prevents T from binding to androgen receptors.
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It's easiest just to refer to this thread, http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/86638-atd-good-bad.html , however AFAIK there isn't a definitive answer but if I were to do a PCT I would probably do Trione or TD Formestane.
 
poopypants said:
WTF? methyl tren? for real??? that shii is supposed to make methyl 1-test look like skittles!

what were your doses length and results? also where in the hell did you find someone selling this poison!?!? are you sure it was legit?
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Well, I can't tell you where I got it! LOL But it was legit for sure. Placebo can never do what that sh!t did. Awesome. I still have the log going right now. I'm in PCT at the moment. Log is "Thundergod's Mad Methyl Meltdown". Check it out bro.
 
thundergod said:
Well, I can't tell you where I got it! LOL But it was legit for sure. Placebo can never do what that sh!t did. Awesome. I still have the log going right now. I'm in PCT at the moment. Log is "Thundergod's Mad Methyl Meltdown". Check it out bro.
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ill def have to! sad I missed out on that!

Ill catch up and post up momentarily.
 
No agonistic properties of ATD were observed either behaviorally or biochemically. Thus, an alternative explanation for the inhibitory effects of ATD on male sexual behavior is that ATD prevents T from binding to androgen receptors.
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So whats this saying exactly? It binds to the receptor but exerts no effect of its own?

I would have to say I disagree though that ATD is a bad PCT idea and that its going to have an overly detrimental effect at blocking androgen at our doses for the exact reason Big V stated, that being the doses used in the study....

I say this only cause Ive taken it both in multiple standalone situations as well as ON cycle with strong androgens like M-trn and both in the standalone situation had great strength and androgenic effects and it didnt hinder my M-TRN cyce whatsoever, in fact I had an INSANE strength gaining cycle that cycle... so I doubt its anti androgenic in humans at our dose in the least.
 
TripDog said:
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Been kinda sick the last 3 days and started on antibiotics. Got a nasty cold and fighting it off. Sorry for the crap updates, havent been feeling that well. Appetite has been straight sh*tty...
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When did you take (aged) Garlic extract last, tRiPdIzZLe? :)
 
thundergod said:
Well, I can't tell you where I got it! LOL But it was legit for sure. Placebo can never do what that sh!t did. Awesome. I still have the log going right now. I'm in PCT at the moment. Log is "Thundergod's Mad Methyl Meltdown". Check it out bro.
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I heard of something called:
Methyl Tren Depot XT

Serving Size: 400 mg

Ingredients:
-Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione 50 mg
7 dihydroxybergamottin (DHB) 150 mg
19-Hydroxy-99lpha-methyl 4,20 dione 75 mg
19-norandrosta-4 9 diene-3,17 dione 75 mg
Magnesium 20 mg
Zinc 20 mg
Bioprene 10 mg
 
TripDog said:
Hmmmm, can't say I ever have..Is this something I should consider?
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I take garlic every day. Mmmmm........garlic!:lol:

It actually has MANY proven benefits ranging from overall enhanced immunity, to maintaining cholesterol levels. Get you some kid!
 
Rick28 said:
I heard of something called:
Methyl Tren Depot XT

Serving Size: 400 mg

Ingredients:
-Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione 50 mg
7 dihydroxybergamottin (DHB) 150 mg
19-Hydroxy-99lpha-methyl 4,20 dione 75 mg
19-norandrosta-4 9 diene-3,17 dione 75 mg
Magnesium 20 mg
Zinc 20 mg
Bioprene 10 mg
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ummm thats retarted... 2 of the ingredients are the same way of saying the same thing im almost certian.... so theres 125mg of 19-nor aka estra-4
 
Day 26

Diesel Test Hardcore- 2/1/1
Diesel Test 2010- 2/1/1
Ether Tabs- 5 post workout
JP8- 2 scoops pre workout
Nos Ether 1 scoop pre and post workout
Diesel Fuel- 2 pre workout
Sunami 1/1/1

Ok no lie here, I was at the gym for 3 1/2 hours today (if u count tanning, and training with a partner) I took the weekend off (something I never do), and was owning that b*tch today! Lots of core work lately, something I never really needed to do, but my partner is all into it.

Aggression was just retarded today. Like seriously people probably think i'm the biggest azzhole in the world at my gym the way I do my thing and I love it!! Life in the gym is great once again.

Acne is up a tad, and I def give off a more musky smell.

Took Nos Ether for the first time pre and post workout, and was very impressed. I'm sitting here like 4 hours later and I still feel pumped!! Not lying either....fukcin awesome stuff! I think I will do a scoop pre and post for now, cause it seemed to work nicely.

Word,
-TrIpNa$tY
 
I stopped coming in here for a while, and now I remember why.


Everytime I read youre entry it makes me want to crack open my Get Diesel supps :frustrate:frustrate

I have to finish my Mass FX MS sponsored log first man, stop trying to convince me!!! haha


On a less serious note :p nice job hittin the weights and everything.

How's strength/size been? What's your goals [short/long term]?
 
DaveGabe24 said:
I stopped coming in here for a while, and now I remember why.


Everytime I read youre entry it makes me want to crack open my Get Diesel supps :frustrate:frustrate

I have to finish my Mass FX MS sponsored log first man, stop trying to convince me!!! haha


On a less serious note :p nice job hittin the weights and everything.

How's strength/size been? What's your goals [short/long term]?
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I train because I love the intensity, and I need to get it out of my system so to say. I'm addicted to the gym, and I would not have it any other way. I just want to have fun while I lift everyday, and I do that! So I'm happy.....
 
TripDog said:
I train because I love the intensity, and I need to get it out of my system so to say. I'm addicted to the gym, and I would not have it any other way. I just want to have fun while I lift everyday, and I do that! So I'm happy.....
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Nice nice, soooo the gym is your psychologist? :p

I wonder if you'd see better gains with a little less though, or is the stress-release your main concern?
 
DaveGabe24 said:
Nice nice, soooo the gym is your psychologist? :p

I wonder if you'd see better gains with a little less though, or is the stress-release your main concern?
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Honestly the stress relief / warp into my alpha male state to me is priceless. It sucks cause the chick im seein wants to train with me m,w,f. I would much rather do my workouts alone, but .......Although I have a few new ones lined up. :)
 
TripDog said:
Honestly the stress relief / warp into my alpha male state to me is priceless. It sucks cause the chick im seein wants to train with me m,w,f. I would much rather do my workouts alone, but .......Although I have a few new ones lined up. :)
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Damn, Trip, and I thought that I was a dog!!! Bwahahahaha!! Keep up the good work! I have one who's purchasing the Three Kings Stack for me on Friday! I'm just purchasing the JP8 and the Ether tabs!!! Just in time for me to start PCT on Monday! I LOVE it!!! :lol::dance:
 
ex-tightend83 said:
Damn, Trip, and I thought that I was a dog!!! Bwahahahaha!! Keep up the good work! I have one who's purchasing the Three Kings Stack for me on Friday! I'm just purchasing the JP8 and the Ether tabs!!! Just in time for me to start PCT on Monday! I LOVE it!!! :lol::dance:
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Welcome brother! :lol:
 
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