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Delita420

Delita420

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mass fx any day of the week (and yes Ive used both)

besides maybe x factor, theres no other non hormonal anabolic that competes with mass fx IMO

act x is solid, but mass fx responds with me perfectly, no side effects w/ act x (actually i got slight gyno from mass fx the first go round, so now Im trying it with advanced pct)
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Some guy said this about Mass FX. Is it truely possible to get Gyno from Mass FX???
 
yea i have read that people been getting gynco from it but i dont know how true it is or not.
 
yeah its fairly true the divanyl in both products can raise estrogen in certain indiduals, both have anti-estrogenic herbal compounds to combat this, but those compounds are just not enough.
 
Delita420 said:
Some guy said this about Mass FX. Is it truely possible to get Gyno from Mass FX???
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With the Old Formula it was very possible when it was run by itself, which is why they recommend that you stack it with their partner product Hyperdrol X2 which contain 6-Bromo to help down regulate estrogen.

The new formula however you should be able to run solo with no problems but if you stack it with Hyperdrol you may see even more gains
 
Won't 6-bromo suppress your body's ability to produce some hormones naturally? I mean it does say WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause birth defects or other reproductive harm.
 
Delita420 said:
Won't 6-bromo suppress your body's ability to produce some hormones naturally? I mean it does say WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause birth defects or other reproductive harm.
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That notice is placed on many things. I think it's more of a legal issue than anything else.

Seems like a good way to cover your ass when you don't know what type of effect it's going to have in that type of situation.
 
I've never had any negative side effects from other herbal testosterone boosters. Do some people get symptoms of gyno from those other herbs too, or is it only from divanyl?
 
Delita420 said:
I've never had any negative side effects from other herbal testosterone boosters. Do some people get symptoms of gyno from those other herbs too, or is it only from divanyl?
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It depends on the person. I know people who have taken Superdrol and not gotten any form of gyno, then they drink a tribulus shot and they get puffy nips.

Everyone responds differently.
 
Doubt the gyno! Sorry for the negativity but Mass FX did nothing for me. Definitely not what it advertizes. I seriously doubt any non hormonal supp gives gyno. I'd definitely say placebo side effect!
 
depending on weather people are pre-disposed to gyno, genetically, natural test boosters can cause an aggravation in gyno. this was something that did have potential, however slight, with the original mass fx and activate. with the new ones of each of these products there has been advancement in the sense that they each can easily be ran stand alone with thanks to the inclusion of estrogen blockers in each product. if it is a huge worry than i would recomend an estrogen blocker like hyperdrol 2 to ease your worries and to add synergetic effect as well
 
I played around with andro when it was legal, never had any problems... And I ate it like candy because I didn't know WTF it was hahaha. Lately I've been using herbal testosterone boosters, no problems there either. Good genes? :)
 
if u were going to run mass fx id low dose some hyperdrol or advanced pct, if forskolin(in hyperdrol causes nausau)doesnt agree with you.

and for the superdrol comment, u can get delayed gyno, happening even a month after u finished your cycle.

divanyl bases products are the only herbal test booster that ive had estrogen related incedences with,puffy boobs, soft look.
 
bigschmidt821 said:
depending on weather people are pre-disposed to gyno, genetically, natural test boosters can cause an aggravation in gyno. this was something that did have potential, however slight, with the original mass fx and activate. with the new ones of each of these products there has been advancement in the sense that they each can easily be ran stand alone with thanks to the inclusion of estrogen blockers in each product. if it is a huge worry than i would recomend an estrogen blocker like hyperdrol 2 to ease your worries and to add synergetic effect as well
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for some those estrogen blockers would be enough, but in some i think divanyl causes too much estrogen that couldnt be controlled by icarrin, white mushroom,extract,natural ai;s.
 
Delita420 said:
Some guy said this about Mass FX. Is it truely possible to get Gyno from Mass FX???
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This is from the original version.

The newer version contains an anti-estrogen to prevent against excess accumulation of estrogens.

MassFX did (and still does) a fantabulous job of increasing free-testosterone. This means more testosterone to do the things testosterone does. Unfortunately, one of those things testosterone does is convert into estradiol. :(

The addition of some competative anti-aromatase should prevent any such accumulation of estrogens. If you are still converned, I woudl recommend looking into stacking with Hyperdrol or ATD.
 
bigschmidt821 said:
depending on weather people are pre-disposed to gyno, genetically, natural test boosters can cause an aggravation in gyno. this was something that did have potential, however slight, with the original mass fx and activate. with the new ones of each of these products there has been advancement in the sense that they each can easily be ran stand alone with thanks to the inclusion of estrogen blockers in each product. if it is a huge worry than i would recomend an estrogen blocker like hyperdrol 2 to ease your worries and to add synergetic effect as well
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precisely, i got gyno when i first started puberty, had it flare up a few times throughout puberty and in fact had it flare up when logging the MassFX. I doubt most users would have to worry about it, especially it stacked with an AI or natty SERM.
 
I have a bottle of mass fx and ive run it in the pass with hyperdrol, but had my pubertal gyno flare up. I wana know how i can run the bottle(s) of mass fx so i dont have any gyno flare up again??
 
pavb10 said:
I have a bottle of mass fx and ive run it in the pass with hyperdrol, but had my pubertal gyno flare up. I wana know how i can run the bottle(s) of mass fx so i dont have any gyno flare up again??
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If you are asking for the end-all play-it-safe answer, then it's this: Don't even look at a supplement that affects hormone levels. Truly, that's your answer. If you experienced a flair-up while taking MFX with HX2, then looking at a hot chick might make you lactate. It's just that I see a bit of a problem with the words "gyno", "caused", and anything with 6-bromo in it in the same sentence. It's like shooting yourself in the leg with a slice of pizza.

When a person has gyno or has had it, the chances are decent that almost any product out there may cause a flare-up. It's definitely an unfortunate circumstance, but it happens. I feel for ya man, I do. I can't identify, though. No problems here. But what I urge you to do is to weigh your options. Is the potential benefit from doing a certain product/cycle going to outweight that flare-up problem? It's just like anything else. Listerine cleans your teeth, but burns on the tongue. Candy is dandy, but diabetes can make you lose toes. Driving fast is awesome; stopping that fast kills.

I wish you all the luck in the world, and all the support we can give. Same to all. :cheers:
 
Delita420 said:
Hell, if the gyno flares up too much, we could always compete in the womens category lol... :)
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:rofl: :icon_lol: :nutkick: :trout:

repped. :fart:
 
pavb10 said:
I have a bottle of mass fx and ive run it in the pass with hyperdrol, but had my pubertal gyno flare up. I wana know how i can run the bottle(s) of mass fx so i dont have any gyno flare up again??
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Its not going to be easy for you to run much without issues.

I myself would get various bloodpanels taken. Then try to isolate exactly what imbalances you have and then go from there.

Is it low T and normal E

Or is it normal T and very high E

Is it prolaction related? Is it really gyno? Have you seen a doctor about it?

Inquiring minds need to know.
 
its lumps behind my nipples both of equal size. about the size of the a marble, maybe a little smaller. Ive had it since puberty around seventh grade and it makes my nipples stick out and look puffy. I really dont wana get blood tests done becuase it isnt really that big of an issue. The gyno just got pretty sensitive alomost itchy when on mass fx and puffed up a little more, but since has gone completly away....
 
pavb10 said:
its lumps behind my nipples both of equal size. about the size of the a marble, maybe a little smaller. Ive had it since puberty around seventh grade and it makes my nipples stick out and look puffy. I really dont wana get blood tests done becuase it isnt really that big of an issue. The gyno just got pretty sensitive alomost itchy when on mass fx and puffed up a little more, but since has gone completly away....
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yeah thats the same reaction i got to divanyl.

But i dont have lumps,aka real gyno.

i got puffy an itchy as well.
 
There's a big difference between puffy nips and gyno.

Usually, itchy/puffy-nip occurs when you're in a warm environment. The skin softens up and prolactin is produced more readily when in a warmer environment.
 
when i say puffy i mean like also bigger whatever, i dont have gyno so there no problem here. So are u saying that divanyl based products increase prolactin?
 
I have read that they do help with lactation. If it's a prolactin problem, we should get some vitex agnus castus (chaste berry). It drops prolactin levels in men. But seriously, why would they make a testosterone booster that makes you lactate? Is it just a select few that have this problem? Or is it really what they intended it to do?
 
why cant someone just make an awesome test booster i could use without any adverse sides???
 
Mass FX boost your test quite significantly, which also means that there is a likelihood of conversion of test to DHT, which could cause hair loss. Also your body will naturally try to get into balance, so it will increase estrogen, which could cause gyno. To prevent this use Hyperdrol x2, or megadose Indole 3 Carbinol, eat lots of Broccoli, 6 oxo will work as well.
 
T-AD said that i probally shouldn't take mass fx if i already have pre exsisting gyno. I think my last scare on mass fx for gyno was fake and it was just simply putting extra mass on my chest and having my exsisting gyno look worse. I think i do wana try to use the bottle of mass fx i have now and see how it works. I dont want my body to increase my estrogen so what should i take? what is most effective? ive had some pm's regarding taking inhibit e, novadex, hyperdrol but this seems kinda expensive....
 
Most people tell me that Hyperdrol X2 will be a good option with minimal side effects. The AI compound in HX2 is 6-bromo. I'll be experimenting with Formadex, with formestane as the AI compound.

Also, the new Mass FX has a natural AI in it. Any AI you stack with the new Mass FX is for added precaution.

I know nothing about ATD, but I've been told it's a cheap and effective AI.
 
yeah i have the new mass fx, should i buy some inhibit e and novadex and run it with it or something?
 
I hear that it's not good to use an AI when you are younger. I'm considering not using one and seeing what happens, especially since the new Mass FX already has an AI in it. If it's not all that needed, you might want to spend your money on something else. Now if you have really sensitive gyno problems, then you might want to consider the extra AI. All in all, an AI can offset your hormone balance too. So the use of an AI may or may not help you.

You should find some extra advice from someone who has experience with gyno.
 
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