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Prime = tribex?

kilmann40

kilmann40

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Some guy on bodybuilding.com (patrick arnold) claims that the discontinued tribex has resurfaced...as prime. ????? could this be true?


oh, if i ordered 2 bottles of tribex....*sigh*
 
Here are the ingredients in Tribex:

Tribulus Terrestris, Vitex Agnus Castus, Eurycoma Longifolia

This is not the same Tribulus that is in Prime. What some people come up with..........amazing.
 
kilmann40 said:
Some guy on bodybuilding.com (patrick arnold) claims that the discontinued tribex has resurfaced...as prime. ????? could this be true?


oh, if i ordered 2 bottles of tribex....*sigh*
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Some guy named patrick arnold who owns another supplement company who only believes he makes good supplements..that patrick Arnold?
 
kilmann40; said:
Some guy on bodybuilding.com (patrick arnold) claims that the discontinued tribex has resurfaced...as prime. ????? could this be true?....
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Absolutely ridiculous! :fool2:
 
It's because PA has a product coming out similar to Prime next month. I hear it's called Optimus Prime.
 
The Patrick Arnold that found out a batch of Designer Supplements Rebound XT was underdosed and caused a big stir?

I just had to drop something in this.
 
patrick arnold is one of the innovators in the industry that brings brand new products the the market and no propertary blends. All his products are expensive though.
 
kilmann40 said:
Some guy on bodybuilding.com (patrick arnold) claims that the discontinued tribex has resurfaced...as prime. ????? could this be true?


oh, if i ordered 2 bottles of tribex....*sigh*
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And Im sure you've never heard of this guy, right?
 
Wow, reading comprehension is way overrated.

PA said:
For years biotest also had a tribulus product called Tribex. Testimonial after testimonial boasted that it was very effective for strength and stamina and libido.

Now here is something to ponder. Where is tribex today?

the answer is it has resurfaced as Prime
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Looks like he was refering to the similarities in marketing ("destroys pro-hormones and pro-steroids") and lack of scientific evidence ("juss read the logs, brah").
 
Im not picking sides.

PA is not just some ignorant fool.

I believe he actually has some extensive scientific knowledge in the supplement arena and the capabilities to use and prove it......

Not huggin. Just stating.

He doesn't hold much weight with me.

But he definitely has some groupies, if you will.

Here's some info on the Prime hater. lol

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moklepaul said:
It's because PA has a product coming out similar to Prime next month. I hear it's called Optimus Prime.
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Change it to StarScream and I am a fan.

I'm not a chemist like the sponsor companies here or like so of you guys, but the Prime extract looked to be totally different than the Tribex.

Plus isnt Prime supposed to be non hormonal?

NP's writeup
("Do I need to Cycle USPLabs Prime?
Well, you won't want to come off! And since it does not statistically affect hormonal levels one way or another, you can stay on for long periods. But, just to be safe, we suggest 12 weeks on, 4 weeks off. Or at least two, 3 week breaks per year."

"Steroidal Gylcosides
Tribulus Aquaticus contains active steroidal components called steroidal glycosides. However, the components in USPLabs Prime are unique to our specific extract of Tribulus Aquaticus and have not been found in any other compound in the world. These steroidal glycosides are believed to exert their anabolic effects through non androgen receptor-mediated mechanisms, perhaps by possessing anti-glucocorticoid activity similar to pharmaceutical compounds such as methandrostenolone (D-bol). In any case, it's obvious that these steroidal glycosides allow for a retention of nitrogen and either a decline in the catabolic processes related to skeletal muscle or an improvement in protein synthesis; the end result of which is increased muscle mass.")
 
I find it funny how everyone knocks him until he comes on here and starts posting and then everyone is eating out of his hand. I enjoy his posts on MM, but I hate BB, so I rarely go there. As far as Prime, we all know its not the same as regular Tribulus so why get all bent out of shape. Lately, its like when someone says ANYTHING negative about Prime or USP labs, it like they made a mamma joke. Everyones like "oohhhhhhhhhh sh*t! What did he say?"
 
noobster said:
Wow, reading comprehension is way overrated.



Looks like he was refering to the similarities in marketing ("destroys pro-hormones and pro-steroids") and lack of scientific evidence ("juss read the logs, brah").
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Noobster is right.He is not saying they have the same ingredient profile.His stance is that tribex was overhyped and pretty much useless,as is prime.
 
Hyde12 said:
I find it funny how everyone knocks him until he comes on here and starts posting and then everyone is eating out of his hand. I enjoy his posts on MM, but I hate BB, so I rarely go there. As far as Prime, we all know its not the same as regular Tribulus so why get all bent out of shape. Lately, its like when someone says ANYTHING negative about Prime or USP labs, it like they made a mamma joke. Everyones like "oohhhhhhhhhh sh*t! What did he say?"
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:whip: crack that whip son. but yea i agree.

p.s. p-slin rocks
 
Conagher said:
Noobster is right.He is not saying they have the same ingredient profile.His stance is that tribex was overhyped and pretty much useless,as is prime.
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Haven't tried prime, so not picking a side yet. But to reiterate, Pat didn't mean they were the same thing. Meant they are marketed the same and will end up the same.
 
noobster said:
Wow, reading comprehension is way overrated.



Looks like he was refering to the similarities in marketing ("destroys pro-hormones and pro-steroids") and lack of scientific evidence ("juss read the logs, brah").
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agreed , his not making a direct comparison with the ingredients but with the marketing so the original poster misunderstood PA`s statement
 
woo forgot i posed this question haha. soon after, i talked to this supplement guru lady at my gym and she convinced me otherwise.

To Mr. Reading Comprehension: obviously its not the SAME as tribex. i was just concerned it was verrrrry similar to tribex, as I am aware of Patrick Arnold's reputation/small legacy.

But alas, my prime shall arrive Tuesday, and hopefully I won't be putting a bullet in my foot

thanks for all your input
 
USPLabs said:
His is very intelligent, but he also trashes every innovative supplement he does not produce.
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i'll have to take ur word for it. never really read much of what he has to say. but i do applaud you guys for coming out with new supplements and not rehashing what somebody else has already done.
 
Its just like everything else. Patrick Arnold is no different than anywhere else you get information from, you have to read it all and decide for yourself what you actually want to believe. He has a lot of knowledge to share when/if he wants to, but he also has his own agenda when he talks about other companies products. Take some of what you hear and learn from it, and know that some stuff you hear youre going to have to dismiss as intentional misinformation. Just like everything else in life, so we should all know this already.

I should be starting my Prime run tomorrow, so Im at least willing to give it a chance. If it works, I dont care how or why, as long as it works. If it doesnt, its not like Im going to die, so I think Ill be alright.
 
Maverick60 said:
Its just like everything else. Patrick Arnold is no different than anywhere else you get information from, you have to read it all and decide for yourself what you actually want to believe. He has a lot of knowledge to share when/if he wants to, but he also has his own agenda when he talks about other companies products. Take some of what you hear and learn from it, and know that some stuff you hear youre going to have to dismiss as intentional misinformation. Just like everything else in life, so we should all know this already.

I should be starting my Prime run tomorrow, so Im at least willing to give it a chance. If it works, I dont care how or why, as long as it works. If it doesnt, its not like Im going to die, so I think Ill be alright.
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from all the review i read prime seems to work. but why so expensive?
 
jsp0785 said:
from all the review i read prime seems to work. but why so expensive?
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Expense is just relative. Its not cheap like m-drol, but it doesnt have the sides or need a pct either. Creatine mono is cheap, but some people still pay 3x as much for size-on or other products that are basically fancy creatine..

Price doesnt bother me much. I just spent $220 on a pair of jeans, I like expensive things. lol. (I want a $50k corvette too!) $50 every 3 weeks isnt going to break me, so why not? If an extra $20 over some other supp I might want to take was going to be enough to make me poor, Im pretty sure I wouldnt be taking any supps at all and spending the money I did have on food.
 
Maverick60 said:
Expense is just relative. Its not cheap like m-drol, but it doesnt have the sides or need a pct either. Creatine mono is cheap, but some people still pay 3x as much for size-on or other products that are basically fancy creatine..

Price doesnt bother me much. I just spent $220 on a pair of jeans, I like expensive things. lol. (I want a $50k corvette too!) $50 every 3 weeks isnt going to break me, so why not? If an extra $20 over some other supp I might want to take was going to be enough to make me poor, Im pretty sure I wouldnt be taking any supps at all and spending the money I did have on food.
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isn't it $54 plus shipping? so about $60. m drol might be a little more because of the pct and everything but its going to give u a lot more. if i was gonna spend that much on a supp i'd probably go with x-factor.
 
kilmann40 said:
Some guy on bodybuilding.com (patrick arnold) claims that the discontinued tribex has resurfaced...as prime. ????? could this be true?


oh, if i ordered 2 bottles of tribex....*sigh*
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He's "comparing" it to Prime. All the hype, and little substance.
 
Maverick60 said:
Its just like everything else. Patrick Arnold is no different than anywhere else you get information from, you have to read it all and decide for yourself what you actually want to believe. He has a lot of knowledge to share when/if he wants to, but he also has his own agenda when he talks about other companies products. Take some of what you hear and learn from it, and know that some stuff you hear youre going to have to dismiss as intentional misinformation. Just like everything else in life, so we should all know this already.

I should be starting my Prime run tomorrow, so Im at least willing to give it a chance. If it works, I dont care how or why, as long as it works. If it doesnt, its not like Im going to die, so I think Ill be alright.
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The guy is a douche bag, but he has more than JUST WHITE PAPER KNOWLEDGE, he has "hands on" which has been nothing short of successful throughout the early portion of this decade ... no one breathing can deny that.
 
USPLabs said:
His is very intelligent, but he also trashes every innovative supplement he does not produce.
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You must, err, are you drinking, errr, wait, you're absolutely right.
:think:
PA could be a very respectful person to all if he just focused on his supplements.

I did indeed read the thread where the OP got the information; however, PA was referring to the marketing, not the actual ingredient profiles.
But, it is very easy to misinterpret what he types sometimes; it's common to see hidden sarcasm in his text.
 
ergo

I will probably get some s h i t. But here goes.

He's not all that bad. I got them cheap.....go figure. lol

I'm pretty much a sports supplement slut. :)
 

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jsp0785 said:
isn't it $54 plus shipping? so about $60. m drol might be a little more because of the pct and everything but its going to give u a lot more. if i was gonna spend that much on a supp i'd probably go with x-factor.
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Here it is. I paid $52 after shipping where I got it. But just buy some other stuff with it and get free shipping from nutra if you spend over $200. :)

M-drol probably will give you a lot more. ...hair loss, liver pain masked by back pumps, high blood pressure, small balls, a bad prostate, anger issues, and a lack of pride in what you achieved because you had to take steroids to get it (and subsequently lose most of it upon cessation.) If someone wants to use m-drol and such, thats cool, Im just not into that sort of thing. (Id pin test long before I took any of those methyls if I was going that route)
 
Maverick60 said:
Here it is. I paid $52 after shipping where I got it. But just buy some other stuff with it and get free shipping from nutra if you spend over $200. :)

M-drol probably will give you a lot more. ...hair loss, liver pain masked by back pumps, high blood pressure, small balls, a bad prostate, anger issues, and a lack of pride in what you achieved because you had to take steroids to get it (and subsequently lose most of it upon cessation.) If someone wants to use m-drol and such, thats cool, Im just not into that sort of thing. (Id pin test long before I took any of those methyls if I was going that route)
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all of those are temporary side effects and if you don't keep your gains after your diet and training isnt' very good
 
jsp0785 said:
all of those are temporary side effects and if you don't keep your gains after your diet and training isnt' very good
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I agree to an extent.

I just dont like seeing guys that are nowhere near ready to juice start popping Superdrol and Epi and all the other steroids like that just because they are easy to get. Theyre still steroids. Id much rather see them taking something like Prime or another non hormonal product for the first 2 years and until they are at a level when real gear would be more suitable. So if Prime really is non hormonal, I am all for it. Most people here wont believe it, but you can put on muscle with just diet and exercise alone. If I throw something in once in a while, Im not going to expect 10 pounds in 3 weeks from it and it be less than $30.
 
Maverick60 said:
I agree to an extent.

I just dont like seeing guys that are nowhere near ready to juice start popping Superdrol and Epi and all the other steroids like that just because they are easy to get. Theyre still steroids. Id much rather see them taking something like Prime or another non hormonal product for the first 2 years and until they are at a level when real gear would be more suitable. So if Prime really is non hormonal, I am all for it. Most people here wont believe it, but you can put on muscle with just diet and exercise alone. If I throw something in once in a while, Im not going to expect 10 pounds in 3 weeks from it and it be less than $30.
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i know that but there are a lot cheaper options that work just as well. USP labs did go a little overboard with the advertising on this.
 
jsp0785 said:
i know that but there are a lot cheaper options that work just as well. USP labs did go a little overboard with the advertising on this.
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Well how can you know how well Prime works compared to something else until you try it? Thats why Im trying it starting tomorrow.

I know my bench probably wont go up 62lbs in the next 30 days, but thats ok. If we agree with the marketing claims or not, Im certain USP is making more money by being in GNC and Vitamin Shoppe. They have to sell their products and draw attention to them when some kid with money is his pocket is looking at it next to Anabolic Halo. Its just business...
 
Maverick60 said:
Well how can you know how well Prime works compared to something else until you try it? Thats why Im trying it starting tomorrow.

I know my bench probably wont go up 62lbs in the next 30 days, but thats ok. If we agree with the marketing claims or not, Im certain USP is making more money by being in GNC and Vitamin Shoppe. They have to sell their products and draw attention to them when some kid with money is his pocket is looking at it next to Anabolic Halo. Its just business...
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let me know how it goes, im looking for more info on prime from honest guys like you.
 
ari4216 said:
let me know how it goes, im looking for more info on prime from honest guys like you.
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Sure thing. I plan to make some sort of log-esque thread on my experience with it. Probably wont be like a "Day -1 Day -2 Day -3" thing, but Ill update my feelings and likes/dislikes as I go and notice effects. Probably start the thread after tomorrows midnight workout.
 
Maverick60 said:
Sure thing. I plan to make some sort of log-esque thread on my experience with it. Probably wont be like a "Day -1 Day -2 Day -3" thing, but Ill update my feelings and likes/dislikes as I go and notice effects. Probably start the thread after tomorrows midnight workout.
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you should check out my log of DTH Nos ether x-factor dcp
 
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