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T-911 On Sale At The LG Site
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thebigt
Legend
i have tried t11 and it is very good. that being said, i wouldn't shop at gnc even for something this good. when will nutra have this?
Australian made
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Where can i see a write up of the ingredients?
LG Sciences
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It's on our site
Australian made
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I can't see an ingredient breakdown on there:think:
madchemist
Banned
When you say "cyclodextrin," are you refering to a possible delivery system, or did you just add sugar to trick people?
3clipseGT
On my grind
We just added sugar to trick people....
No but really yes its the delivery system of the sublingual.
madchemist
Banned
Then you have written the ingredients incorrectly.
If resveratrol is in a cyclodextrin complex, then it should be written as such.
How soluble is androsterone?
3clipseGT
On my grind
The profile I've written up isn't the exact order and how exactly would I write that its in a cyclodextrin complex?
"Cyclodextrin complex"
Resveratrol
Ellagic acid etc
Why would we just add cyclodextrin in there and not use it?
Also to be honest im not sure how soluble androsterone is. Let me ask and ill get bac to you.
3clipseGT
On my grind
Were not promising 15lbs of rock hard muscle , but im pretty sure the concensus is that this product is pretty pody, just look up the reviews. :afro:
madchemist
Banned
Marketing. Common glucose forms equilibrium with its cyclical form, and thus can easily be called "cyclo"dextrose.
The purpose of a cyclodextrin complex is to take an insoluble molecule and shield it from hydrophilic forces.
Here is an example:
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What would be the purpose of making such a complex and then adding insoluble, or only slightly soluble, molecules to the supplement which would take away from its efficacy (i.e. yohimbine, ellagic acid, androsterone)? I'm sure forming such a supplement cost LG quite a lot.
grila jujitsu
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saw the site said exclusive to gnc, is this true or will nutraplanet carry it too?
jsp0785
Well-known member
i would respect that but with exclusively selling with GNC completely gets rid of my interest in it. any business that sells 80% of their products or more at retail price it just ridiculous and a company willing to back that is just as bad
3clipseGT
On my grind
I know what cyclodextrin does bro. Why would LG lie for marketting? We wouldnt scam people and many companies back in the day did it with plenty of hormones. Lg is a big company as well, im sure they can afford it. Let me direct Eric to this thread so he can handle this.
3clipseGT
On my grind
Well it is a bussiness bro, and they are in the bussiness to make money. Exclusively for the first week or so, then everywhere else. They just get it "first".
So yes other places will have this product, GNC just gets it first.
madchemist
Banned
The maximum that can be absorbed through this carrier is 30mg, which is fine for steroids, but somewhat problematic for a supplement which contains 5-6 ingredients.
3clipseGT
On my grind
So then wouldnt you just encase the 2 or 3 products needed in a cyclodextrin complex and leave the others to be absorbed by themselves?
madchemist
Banned
Most of them are nearly insoluble.
3clipseGT
On my grind
So then how do these products work so well? Luck of the draw? I think not.
madchemist
Banned
What products?
3clipseGT
On my grind
Our t911 product, or other sublingual products.
madchemist
Banned
I give up.:frustrate
3clipseGT
On my grind
3clipseGT
On my grind
mooch2321
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lol, thanks for tryin tho bro....:goodpost:
ari4216
Banned
this is very innovative, id like more companies to do sublingual.
There are a lot of supplement thatd work better with sublingual delivery.
I guess your planning on doing an ecdy sub, but i dont know how thatd work
u should definately do a sleep sublingual, with melatonin,phenibut and such other sleep promoters with some potent gh releasers in there too
There are a lot of supplement thatd work better with sublingual delivery.
I guess your planning on doing an ecdy sub, but i dont know how thatd work
u should definately do a sleep sublingual, with melatonin,phenibut and such other sleep promoters with some potent gh releasers in there too
LG Sciences
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Thanks, I am glad you guys like it.
I think cyclodextrins are pretty well established to be good inclusions for the application. The product is getting good reviews and that's what is most important. I don't want to do a bb.com style debate of cyclodextrins, if you don't believe in cyclodextrins, don't buy the product. No biggie.
As for GNC, we did what was best for the company. GNC is a great partner and a good company to work with in general. A lot of people like GNC and I think they have brought in some really quality brands over the past year. Not to take away from Nutra or any of our other partners of course. GNC will have this one for a while. You can buy off our site if you want too.
I think cyclodextrins are pretty well established to be good inclusions for the application. The product is getting good reviews and that's what is most important. I don't want to do a bb.com style debate of cyclodextrins, if you don't believe in cyclodextrins, don't buy the product. No biggie.
As for GNC, we did what was best for the company. GNC is a great partner and a good company to work with in general. A lot of people like GNC and I think they have brought in some really quality brands over the past year. Not to take away from Nutra or any of our other partners of course. GNC will have this one for a while. You can buy off our site if you want too.
jsp0785
Well-known member
who cares if GNC has brought in better brands. I went in there noticed they brought in Mass FX like 2 months ago and it's been $85 a bottle ever since then.
thebigt
Legend
i am no chemist, never have been, never will be, but i can tell you from experience that this product delivers some impressive results. search the logs that were done, and compare them to other resveratrol based products. the delivery system DOES work. but i too wonder why lg would give exclusive rights to a toxic dump company like gnc. imo gnc is a predator preying on the inexperienced and uninformed. i wish supp companies would make a deal with walmart and put that rip off gnc out of business.
jsp0785
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that and i used to work there. the only commission there is is basically on muscletech and fizogen, they are the highest commission products. even with that i used to turn people towards optimum whey and regular creatine mono. but it's the companies that pay these commissions and not GNC so that's half the probelm. you're working to make money and these companies are willing to give u $4 for every unit u sell most people are going to do that
sactown1
New member
I think the previous poster was referring to the solubility of the compounds in the cyclodextrin... will these ingredients work in the cyclodextrin?
Maxwell600
Active member
what the **** are we even talking about?
thebigt
Legend
i am talking about their prices, i have nothing against employees trying to earn a buck. with what gnc pays employees i can't blame them for pushing stuff that will put some extra cash in their pocket. thanks to the internet we are no longer forced to go to gnc for supps. i really like lg products and they let me test t911, very nice supp. but i do not support them allying themselves with gnc.
jsp0785
Well-known member
me either. i mean i love mass fx and hyperdol and was excited i could just go to the store and buy it and i wouldn't mind pay a few extra bucks once in a while but $85 just for the mass fx. luckily i know a guy who owns a gym and i ask him how much he could get it for and GNC has to match the price.... suckers. they aren't very happy when the price gets marked down over 50%