USP Labs - Scam Company?

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You're not making "gains". You're holding water and glycogen.

The statement is wrong is so many ways...

No, not really. Perhaps you didn't know the circumstances, though. They all retained their gains even after cutting weight for wrestling and then coming back up off competition weight. I can assure you it was and is not glycogen or water. Not sure what kind of water people are retaining on Havoc either....
 
its a whole freakin marketing hulaboo that tricks even smart people like myself. luckily i didnt buy prime, but i was almost thinking about it. save your self
 
My reputation comments are gone from my recent reps from this thread :(

ATTN: Force,
Your transformation was intense especially with all the goody products. But seeing they disregarded all that you took and said it was only AP, P-slin, and Powerfull makes you wonder about ALL those other companies posting ads. But of course it's for the average teenager looking to get freakin HYGE! It's marketing, you know this. In the end, at least you got something free out of it. :afro: "Pony express" is right on, slow providing, not called for. You just keep on keepin' on. No stress with all stuff outside the gym. You know everything will come together in time. One day at a time. No rush on the packy nig! peace.
 
its a whole freakin marketing hulaboo that tricks even smart people like myself. luckily i didnt buy prime, but i was almost thinking about it. save your self

i've used prime and i'd use it again but i wouldn't pay more then USD $40 for it

can't get any more honest than that.

i recomend to anyone to get their shit together in the gym before they use any supps, learn correct form and learn to train well without over doing it, learn intensity when lifting but learn to turn it off once your done, get your diet together and get adequate rest, there are no magic pills, no supp is going to give anyone anything with shithouse form and a shithouse diet.

IMHO too many people jump onto the supp bandwagon way too soon before they get their shit sorted in the gym or the kitchen
 
Why was it erased? I thought it came off in USP's favor... thruthfully.

Most likely erased to avoid drama; though, I do know what it said without reading it.

Kyle, myself, and other USP Brass had a misunderstanding which produced that unfortunate situation - scam artists, crooks, and all other labels which were unfairly impressed upon us due to that situation (not necessarily Kyle's fault), we are not. In fact, Kyle and I have mended our relationship completely, and I will be throwing him a box of P-Slin next month.

We made a mistake with that month's packages, and two things came as a result:

a) the first package was substantially larger than initially promised - more than making up for the wait
b) a second pack, approximately 14 days later was sent out, of equal size.

Essentially - as a sign of good faith to our reps, and as a recognition of our mistake - we more than doubled the supplements allotted to each representative for the month of October (Kyle was not with us at the shipping of the second package).

This lack of compensation was not deliberate, was not a scam, and was none of the ridiculous labels that have since come to fruition as a result of people's interpretation of that event. To put it in perspective, I am a full-time employee of USP Labs, and I did not receive any supplements during that period - it simply happened as a result of backorders, themselves a result of increased national demand.

That being said, I hope this is the last post on this situation; I apologized to Kyle both publicly and privately for the misunderstandings involved in that situation. It would make sense for those without intimate knowledge of those events to suspend further judgment.
 
No, not really. Perhaps you didn't know the circumstances, though. They all retained their gains even after cutting weight for wrestling and then coming back up off competition weight. I can assure you it was and is not glycogen or water. Not sure what kind of water people are retaining on Havoc either....

It IS glycogen/water. To even state its not shows you have no idea WTF you are talking about. ALL androgen's increase glycogen capacity and water levels by increasing aldosterone levels thereby increasing sodium retention. Some more than others. You're wrong.
 
why dont they delete the entire thread???

does usp labs own anabolic minds?

No; this is exactly what I mean about individuals with no knowledge of the situation suspending judgment. FOG's post was favorable, though I appreciate your effort.
 
It IS glycogen/water. To even state its not shows you have no idea WTF you are talking about. ALL androgen's increase glycogen capacity and water levels by increasing aldosterone levels thereby increasing sodium retention. Some more than others. You're wrong.

So when people use Palumbo and lo-no-carb diets on orals it's all glycogen and water? What about the pounds I'm still up even after I've been on low-carb for 4 months, is that still glycogen?
 
It IS glycogen/water. To even state its not shows you have no idea WTF you are talking about. ALL androgen's increase glycogen capacity and water levels by increasing aldosterone levels thereby increasing sodium retention. Some more than others. You're wrong.
Ah YES I was wondering about aldosterone.... Gives the puffy face and all that good stuff.
 
I think he's googling that right now:type:


Hopefully...I probably need a refresher myself since I haven't got into this type of conversation in years...LMAO!!!
 
I was here first. :D

Ah, yes! Well, obviously, I am quite impressed that you have been able to constantly discriminate between two identities (one of which constantly changing itself); all the while exponentially growing not only your online territory and distribution chain, as well as increasing national sales of USP Labs!

Yes, Jacob is Kruger; Kruger is Jacob.

Conspiracy theorists, unite!
 
why are we talking about androgen i though this was supposed to be about people claiming usp labs to be a scam and then usp labs representatives saying that it was not a scam?
 
Ah, yes! Well, obviously, I am quite impressed that you have been able to constantly discriminate between two identities (one of which constantly changing itself); all the while exponentially growing not only your online territory and distribution chain, as well as increasing national sales of USP Labs!

Yes, Jacob is Kruger; Kruger is Jacob.

Conspiracy theorists, unite!

I'm Kaiser Soza.
 
why are we talking about androgen i though this was supposed to be about people claiming usp labs to be a scam and then usp labs representatives saying that it was not a scam?

They are. I own them and I am scamming you. Send me $5.
 
Not particularly, which is why I was asking :think:

I know the basics of androgenic and anabolic but not much beyond that.

****....do I have to explain now?
 
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