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The Complete Testosterone Recovery Stack

Royd The Noyd said:
It would be perfect for havoc or hdrol. Depending on doses but for the most part a very good stack for pct. You could run a low dose nolva or something just for extra assurance (10mg's/day for ex). Regardless I think the stack would cover you...
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Sound like a winner..thanks
 
poacher said:
Great deal. Used Sustain for pct from superdrol cycle. I followed the sustain up with DTH [deisel test] my total test came in around 340. I am running epi tren now. Will adding taco and endo amp make a diffrence in total test. Thanks
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If your test only rose to 340 then it looks like you were still suppressed. Those aren't very good results.
 
Hyde12 said:
If your test only rose to 340 then it looks like you were still suppressed. Those aren't very good results.
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I had blood work i think on day 10 on cycle. Total was 97. Superdrol shut me down HARD. Sustain did get me rolling again. Do wish the total TT was higher. My basline is low 500's. Will have blood work done after this PCT of the Test Recovery Stack. Keep fingers crossed. I am definatly feeling good.
 
poacher said:
I had blood work i think on day 10 on cycle. Total was 97. Superdrol shut me down HARD. Sustain did get me rolling again. Do wish the total TT was higher. My basline is low 500's. Will have blood work done after this PCT of the Test Recovery Stack. Keep fingers crossed. I am definatly feeling good.
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Makes sense. We will look forward to seeing the results. When was your last cycle?

-Pp
 
poacher said:
I had blood work i think on day 10 on cycle. Total was 97. Superdrol shut me down HARD. Sustain did get me rolling again. Do wish the total TT was higher. My basline is low 500's. Will have blood work done after this PCT of the Test Recovery Stack. Keep fingers crossed. I am definatly feeling good.
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If you keep running cycles, your test is going to get worse and worse. I would steer clear of hormones, with total test in the 350's off cycle unless you want to have low test the rest of your life and be on TRT.
 
Alright, I'm trying to wrap my mind around so many things,... That being said, would this test rec stack be adequate as pct instead of, say 6-oxo and post cycle support. I know it's a different company, but I'm preppin' for an epi run in Nov and there is so much info and people feel diff about so much. Like would a serm not be needed with this stack?
 
Hyde12 said:
If you keep running cycles, your test is going to get worse and worse. I would steer clear of hormones, with total test in the 350's off cycle unless you want to have low test the rest of your life and be on TRT.
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True... I would wait atleast 6 months before the next cycle poacher.

-Pp
 
bonscott said:
Alright, I'm trying to wrap my mind around so many things,... That being said, would this test rec stack be adequate as pct instead of, say 6-oxo and post cycle support. I know it's a different company, but I'm preppin' for an epi run in Nov and there is so much info and people feel diff about so much. Like would a serm not be needed with this stack?
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Ill repost the reply from your PM --


Hey bro,

I would not run 6-oxo for PCT it’s a steroidial anti-androgen that is only going to hinder your PCT.

The Testosterone Recovery stack would have your PCT totally covered from the epi cycle. You wouldn’t need a SERM with it either.

Post Cycle Support is a good product from the sounds of it. You could stack this with the Testosteorne Recovery Stack if you wanted.

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
True... I would wait atleast 6 months before the next cycle poacher.

-Pp
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Thanks guy. I agree !000%. I have blood work coming up and will have it done again in 6 months. I may run another summer of 6/2009. Do you think I would be safe running prime in 3 or 4 months.
 
Primordial Perf said:
Ill repost the reply from your PM --


Hey bro,

I would not run 6-oxo for PCT it’s a steroidial anti-androgen that is only going to hinder your PCT.

The Testosterone Recovery stack would have your PCT totally covered from the epi cycle. You wouldn’t need a SERM with it either.

Post Cycle Support is a good product from the sounds of it. You could stack this with the Testosteorne Recovery Stack if you wanted.

-Eric
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I don't think that is true about 6-OXO. ATD is a steroidial anti-e that is very similar to Exemestane, but I am almost positive that PA said 6-OXO is not suppressive.
 
Hyde12 said:
I don't think that is true about 6-OXO. ATD is a steroidial anti-e that is very similar to Exemestane, but I am almost positive that PA said 6-OXO is not suppressive.
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HOW about posting your cycle history with blood work. I am sure we could learn alot from you
 
poacher said:
HOW about posting your cycle history with blood work. I am sure we could learn alot from you
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I am TRT so I dont "cycle" per se, but I have used 6-OXO many times as an anti-e even before TRT. 6-OXO was actually the only thing that I took pre-TRT that really increased libido. I am thinking about getting off TRT and trying a restart. I am starting to get everything that I will need for the restart. My rats have multiple SERMS and anti-e's. The main thing missing that I want to add in is Sustain and soon as I get some extra doe and my wife gives me the OK, I am going to add it along with Mass FX and Prime.
 
Hyde12 said:
I am TRT so I dont "cycle" per se, but I have used 6-OXO many times as an anti-e even before TRT. 6-OXO was actually the only thing that I took pre-TRT that really increased libido. I am thinking about getting off TRT and trying a restart. I am starting to get everything that I will need for the restart. My rats have multiple SERMS and anti-e's. The main thing missing that I want to add in is Sustain and soon as I get some extra doe and my wife gives me the OK, I am going to add it along with Mass FX and Prime.
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I dont mean to be a jerk and hope this is not to personal. I see a lot of guys saying TRT is great. I always figured it came with issues. Is it a crappy experience. Thanks, Poacher
 
poacher said:
I dont mean to be a jerk and hope this is not to personal. I see a lot of guys saying TRT is great. I always figured it came with issues. Is it a crappy experience. Thanks, Poacher
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The big problem is finding a good dr. TRT COULD be a lot better (if HCG and A-Dex are added). Most will not find the root cause and give you a script for test and tell you to "have a nice life, come back in three months and we will test total test and nothing else."
 
Hyde12 said:
The big problem is finding a good dr. TRT COULD be a lot better (if HCG and A-Dex are added). Most will not find the root cause and give you a script for test and tell you to "have a nice life, come back in three months and we will test total test and nothing else."
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You just described my primary DR. and ENDO. Both are like TRT is no big deal. Happy to prescribe test when one feels like the need it if total test is a little low. Got to be a good money maker for them. Thanks Hyde good luck and I appreciate the advice
 
Hyde12 said:
I don't think that is true about 6-OXO. ATD is a steroidial anti-e that is very similar to Exemestane, but I am almost positive that PA said 6-OXO is not suppressive.
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It either a suppressive androgen, or it’s a non-suppressive anti-androgen… I wouldn’t want either in my PCT.

-Pp
 
So is this an all-in-one PCT made easy?

I have 2 weeks of a Mdrol cycle left and I need to make some decisions on PCT now!
 
wheels said:
Since I'm using Endoamp and Toco-8 once a day is it in my system for 24hrs ?
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It’s probably not circulating the blood stream for 24hrs but it’s being stored in the tissues it needs to be nourishing… not so much a “blood level” action if that makes sense…

Realistically you could stop taking Toco-8 for a couple weeks and not have any of the benefits regress.

-Eric
 
Primordial Perf said:
It’s probably not circulating the blood stream for 24hrs but it’s being stored in the tissues it needs to be nourishing… not so much a “blood level” action if that makes sense…

Realistically you could stop taking Toco-8 for a couple weeks and not have any of the benefits regress.

-Eric
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I'm using SUSTAIN 4.0 with TOCO-8 and ENDOAMP just finishing first wk of pct when should I add test booster to this stack ?
 
Well I ordered my recovery stack, and had it over nighted... but the damn snow where ever it is leaving from kept it from showing up. Hopefully it comes tomorrow because i have to start my PCT thursday :(
 
RyanZ06 said:
Well I ordered my recovery stack, and had it over nighted... but the damn snow where ever it is leaving from kept it from showing up. Hopefully it comes tomorrow because i have to start my PCT thursday :(
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Yes! We are getting nailed from backed up arrivals too! It sucks!

-Eric
 
How soon after starting this stack are most people seeing increased/return to normal libido? I've taken it for 3 days thus far without any positive or negative results..
 
RyanZ06 said:
How soon after starting this stack are most people seeing increased/return to normal libido? I've taken it for 3 days thus far without any positive or negative results..
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It really depends on what you took since some compounds are more suppressive than others, and if you ran hCG while on. You SERM choice also affects things if you're running one. Some guys are reporting deeper sleep and good libido with 5 days of starting it, while obviously some respond slower.
 
Steveoph said:
It really depends on what you took since some compounds are more suppressive than others, and if you ran hCG while on. You SERM choice also affects things if you're running one. Some guys are reporting deeper sleep and good libido with 5 days of starting it, while obviously some respond slower.
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I did 3.5 weeks of mDrol. I am not using a SERM. I guess I will report back after 5 days.
 
RyanZ06 said:
How soon after starting this stack are most people seeing increased/return to normal libido? I've taken it for 3 days thus far without any positive or negative results..
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Most guys notice positive effects within the first week of the TRS.

What was the cycle?

-Eric
 
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