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Hman's Epic Epi Adventure

hman85

hman85

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Well guys I am going to start a little log for movitvational reasons maily. This will be my first cycle of epi stane. I am going to run it pretty short 3-4 weeks and probably just 3. My main goal is to get my lifts back up a little and gain some lean muscle, and lose a little fat in the process. I will keep my diet very clean and carbs are going to be kinda low on workout days and very low on off days. I will be working out 5 days a week and will be running at least 3 days a week. It will basically be a recomp for my upcoming test cycle.

Starting stats-5'9-173-12%

LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!!!:bb3:
 
This was a great compound for me and had some real good benefits, but be aware of the lethargy. I remember Trip suggested taking DHEA @ 200mg ED throughout the cycle to help with it. I don't think I did that, so I'm going to advise that.

Good luck with the cycle. I'll be following along closely. What do you have planned for PCT?
 
Irish Cannon said:
This was a great compound for me and had some real good benefits, but be aware of the lethargy. I remember Trip suggested taking DHEA @ 200mg ED throughout the cycle to help with it. I don't think I did that, so I'm going to advise that.

Good luck with the cycle. I'll be following along closely. What do you have planned for PCT?
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Probably nolva and some pcs or diesel test for pct. I hope it makes for a good combo. Thanks for coming by!
 
Subbed. Thanks for the invite broski! Give it Hela hman!! :head:
 
Good stuff man, and good luck with it. Yea, as Cannon stated the 200mg of dhea will really help out with the low energy/libido associated with shutdown. Usually around day 10 it starts to kick in for me, with oral only cycles. I looked at my old journals and always at day 10 I wanted to sleep all day, and had no energy....so get yo azz to walmart and pick up some dhea son!! :lol:
 
TripDog said:
Good stuff man, and good luck with it. Yea, as Cannon stated the 200mg of dhea will really help out with the low energy/libido associated with shutdown. Usually around day 10 it starts to kick in for me, with oral only cycles. I looked at my old journals and always at day 10 I wanted to sleep all day, and had no energy....so get yo azz to walmart and pick up some dhea son!! :lol:
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Sounds good son, thanks!
 
Im here homey! Epi is a great strength enhancer. Youll have a lot of fun with this one. Like the other guys are saying the lethargy is a motherfcker and youll need something a stimulant to really get the most outa this one. Id suggest RPM or white flood...or both :smite: What dosage are you going to do?
 
Subbed, pimptation! I will be running Epi myself, but stacked with AX Prostanazol during the last 4 weeks of my current test cycle. No lethargy for me :) Hehehe. You'll love the compund bro. You'll gain some muscle, strength, libido wil be nice, and you'll drop some bf. It's so far my favorite legal compound.
 
TripDog said:
the 200mg of dhea will really help out with the low energy/libido associated with shutdown. ....so get yo azz to walmart and pick up some dhea son!! :lol:
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Comrade Tripinksi speaketh the truth, verily. DHEA and extra Vitamin C do it for me everytime. And of course maybe the ol' ECA stack wouldn't hurt either!! lol I started doing the Ephedrine, caffiene, aspirin cocktail about a week ago, and I'm loving it! What a rush!! :aargh: ha ha I had to have something to replace my androgens firepower. Damn, I miss me some androgens!! :frustrate
 
thundergod said:
Comrade Tripinksi speaketh the truth, verily. DHEA and extra Vitamin C do it for me everytime. And of course maybe the ol' ECA stack wouldn't hurt either!! lol I started doing the Ephedrine, caffiene, aspirin cocktail about a week ago, and I'm loving it! What a rush!! :aargh: ha ha I had to have something to replace my androgens firepower. Damn, I miss me some androgens!! :frustrate
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Yea man that is a great combo. I did that a lot back a few years....when it wasn't grossly overpriced like today.
 
diggn those Optimus Prime delts Trip! biceps look thick as fck too!
 
thundergod said:
Comrade Tripinksi speaketh the truth, verily. DHEA and extra Vitamin C do it for me everytime. And of course maybe the ol' ECA stack wouldn't hurt either!! lol I started doing the Ephedrine, caffiene, aspirin cocktail about a week ago, and I'm loving it! What a rush!! :aargh: ha ha I had to have something to replace my androgens firepower. Damn, I miss me some androgens!! :frustrate
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I love the EC stack. I generally go ECY, with the Yohimbine, but either way, the energy you receive, not to mention the appetite suppression from the ephedrine hcl is phenomenal.
 
k back to hman. I heart Hmans delts
 
Irish Cannon said:
I'd like to see the delts.

Hman, lets get some pics up for before and after comparisons!
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I am trying to do that, i just don't have a camera at the moment.I will get one though.

On another note I am wondering on how i should dose the epi. I am pretty sure i am going to run it for 3 weeks only. what does everyone think about me running it 20/30/40. It is my first run and if i can keep it at 30 the last 2 weeks i just might. everyone give me your pros and cons on the situation and what you think. Thanks
 
hman85 said:
I am trying to do that, i just don't have a camera at the moment.I will get one though.

On another note I am wondering on how i should dose the epi. I am pretty sure i am going to run it for 3 weeks only. what does everyone think about me running it 20/30/40. It is my first run and if i can keep it at 30 the last 2 weeks i just might. everyone give me your pros and cons on the situation and what you think. Thanks
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I'd strongly advise running for the full four weeks. I see no reason to cut yourself short. I'm going to advise 20/30/30/30. Your way doesn't sound bad for 3 weeks, but I still feel like rather than bumping it up 10mg in the third week, you're better off just running it for four weeks. I think you'd get more benefit out of that.
 
^^^ said it best
 
TripDog said:
Yea man that is a great combo. I did that a lot back a few years....when it wasn't grossly overpriced like today.
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I hope I don't get my hands spanked for this....but here goes. You can get the whole stack at Wal-Mart for $10!!! The Store brand Suphedrine--1 box at 48 tabs 30 mg. each, Store brand Stay Awake caffiene tabs--1 box at 80 tabs 200 mg. each, and a cheap bottle of Aspirin. All totalling less than $10 fukkin' bucks!! Now go get wired again brother Trip. I'm going to down my ECA stack and chase it with a VPX Redline tomorrow morning for my Chest and Triceps workout. Check out my log tomorrow and survey the damages!!! :head:
 
thundergod said:
I hope I don't get my hands spanked for this....but here goes. You can get the whole stack at Wal-Mart for $10!!! The Store brand Suphedrine--1 box at 48 tabs 30 mg. each, Store brand Stay Awake caffiene tabs--1 box at 80 tabs 200 mg. each, and a cheap bottle of Aspirin. All totalling less than $10 fukkin' bucks!! Now go get wired again brother Trip. I'm going to down my ECA stack and chase it with a VPX Redline tomorrow morning for my Chest and Triceps workout. Check out my log tomorrow and survey the damages!!! :head:
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Suphedrine? That's the same as Ephedrine? You're saying I can get ephedrine at Wal-mart? Is this true? Am I dreaming?
 
Irish Cannon said:
Suphedrine? That's the same as Ephedrine? You're saying I can get ephedrine at Wal-mart? Is this true? Am I dreaming?
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No dreams! It's true. You have to go to the colds and allergies aisle and get a card that is in the rack where the Suphedrine used to be. Take that card to the pharmacy and they will get the ephedrine for you. It's behind the counter, but no prescription is necessary. You do have to show ID and sign for it, as Methamphetamine Laws restrict how much an individual is allowed to buy in a given peroid of time. Say per month. But you CAN get it. And that ECA stack really kicks ass!! My last 2 workouts on it were phenominal!! :head:
 
thundergod said:
I hope I don't get my hands spanked for this....but here goes. You can get the whole stack at Wal-Mart for $10!!! The Store brand Suphedrine--1 box at 48 tabs 30 mg. each, Store brand Stay Awake caffiene tabs--1 box at 80 tabs 200 mg. each, and a cheap bottle of Aspirin. All totalling less than $10 fukkin' bucks!! Now go get wired again brother Trip. I'm going to down my ECA stack and chase it with a VPX Redline tomorrow morning for my Chest and Triceps workout. Check out my log tomorrow and survey the damages!!! :head:
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Why the asprin?
 
wassup hman? alright im here for you like youve been there in my logs. Kick some ass!

Im gonna suggest more on the epi 20/30/40/50 for you brah!
 
pistonpump said:
wassup hman? alright im here for you like youve been there in my logs. Kick some ass!

Im gonna suggest more on the epi 20/30/40/50 for you brah!
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I was hoping someone else would suggest it before I had to. It seems like I'm always telling people to up their dosages!! lol But really, Epi is extremely mild IMO!! Up those doses hman!!
 
hman85 said:
Why the asprin?
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From my logic and reasoning, it's to thin the blood to allow the Eph/Caff to kick in and circulate faster. This is my take on it.
 
thundergod said:
No dreams! It's true. You have to go to the colds and allergies aisle and get a card that is in the rack where the Suphedrine used to be. Take that card to the pharmacy and they will get the ephedrine for you. It's behind the counter, but no prescription is necessary. You do have to show ID and sign for it, as Methamphetamine Laws restrict how much an individual is allowed to buy in a given peroid of time. Say per month. But you CAN get it. And that ECA stack really kicks ass!! My last 2 workouts on it were phenominal!! :head:
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I'm definitely going to have to give this a try soon. I'm in need of a cut after my last cycle. So shortly after I finish up my current PCT, I'm planning on starting a cut and the ECA stack will definitely find it's way into the mix. Thanks for the tip TG!
 
pistonpump said:
wassup hman? alright im here for you like youve been there in my logs. Kick some ass!

Im gonna suggest more on the epi 20/30/40/50 for you brah!
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Yeah i was going to keep doses pretty high for a first run anyway, just still contemplating the 4 week. Thanks for following piston.
 
hman85 said:
Yeah i was going to keep doses pretty high for a first run anyway, just still contemplating the 4 week. Thanks for following piston.
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no prob. if you are going to do a three weeker i see no real reason to run it low except maybe the first week 10/20/30/30/40/40/40
40/40/40/50/50/50/50
50/50/40/40/40/40/40....maybe?
 
pistonpump said:
no prob. if you are going to do a three weeker i see no real reason to run it low except maybe the first week 10/20/30/30/40/40/40
40/40/40/50/50/50/50
50/50/40/40/40/40/40....maybe?
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Do you think it would be better to run like that or just lower the dose a bit and then run for 4 weeks?
 
hman85 said:
Yeah i was going to keep doses pretty high for a first run anyway, just still contemplating the 4 week. Thanks for following piston.
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I'd do 4 weeks bro. You'll gain all the way up until the last week. Epi isn't like SD where gains stop after 2-3 weeks. It didn't even kick in for me until the 2nd week or so. By the time you get to the 3rd week, you'll want to stay on for another week anyway, so I don't even really eed to try to convince you. :lol: Epi is da shiz!
 
I'd run it for 4 weeks also. Like BG said, as long as your dieting and training is on point, the gains from Epi should continue to come during that forth week. Plus I feel it's easier to retain gains from a longer cycle than a shorter cycle. Even though all oral cycles are essentially short cycles, which is why a lot of people have trouble retaining gains with these oral only cycles, so this may be a moot point. That extra week gives your body longer to adjust to the new weight, and in my mind making it easier to retain gains.
 
Why drop the dosage at the end of 4th week PP?
 
metroba said:
Why drop the dosage at the end of 4th week PP?
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haha, idk! :lol:

i like to try different things, my reason for that this time is i was thinking that if he wanted to do 3 weeks that maybe he didnt want too much damage/suppression/liver done so giving it a spike with the 50mg will get him a little more gains then droppin back down 1 cap would give his body a lil break from the stress at 50, just before PCT. He's not a really big guy (no offense) so 50mg may be alot already for him. You cant really tell until u try.
 
interesting thought. Makes sense.
 
pistonpump said:
haha, idk! :lol:

i like to try different things, my reason for that this time is i was thinking that if he wanted to do 3 weeks that maybe he didnt want too much damage/suppression/liver done so giving it a spike with the 50mg will get him a little more gains then droppin back down 1 cap would give his body a lil break from the stress at 50, just before PCT. He's not a really big guy (no offense) so 50mg may be alot already for him. You cant really tell until u try.
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Hey now lol
 
Its okay hman Im still smaller than you
 
metroba said:
Its okay hman Im still smaller than you
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lol Hey not everyone can be as cool as piston:rasp: j/k

Well players and pimps, i am going to go hit up some serious back enhancing moves. Deads today so that should be exciting. i haven't done deads in a while so i need some. Should be a good time. i will post the war report later when i get back. peace
 
From what I can gather about Hman, he's a relatively conservative guy and simply doesn't want to go overboard. I don't think the suppression/liver damage is playing too much of a role in his thinking, though. I still recommend doing four weeks. I've ran the stuff, and I know that it still works well into week 4. I just see no reason to short yourself. I wouldn't ever quit something that's still relatively safe and bringing me good results without any added hassle. That's just me.
 
thundergod said:
I hope I don't get my hands spanked for this....but here goes. You can get the whole stack at Wal-Mart for $10!!! The Store brand Suphedrine--1 box at 48 tabs 30 mg. each, Store brand Stay Awake caffiene tabs--1 box at 80 tabs 200 mg. each, and a cheap bottle of Aspirin. All totalling less than $10 fukkin' bucks!! Now go get wired again brother Trip. I'm going to down my ECA stack and chase it with a VPX Redline tomorrow morning for my Chest and Triceps workout. Check out my log tomorrow and survey the damages!!! :head:
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What dosage are you taking for this? It should be a good add for my caffine free RagnaRok (the version with caffine was sold out).
 
Irish Cannon said:
From what I can gather about Hman, he's a relatively conservative guy and simply doesn't want to go overboard. I don't think the suppression/liver damage is playing too much of a role in his thinking, though. I still recommend doing four weeks. I've ran the stuff, and I know that it still works well into week 4. I just see no reason to short yourself. I wouldn't ever quit something that's still relatively safe and bringing me good results without any added hassle. That's just me.
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Yeah that is pretty close. I will probably run it for 4 weeks, i am going to go by feel though and play it by ear(or should i say muscle). I just was going to make it shorter because i have a test cycle coming up and i don't want to put it off for too long. Ya heard!
 
hman85 said:
Yeah that is pretty close. I will probably run it for 4 weeks, i am going to go by feel though and play it by ear(or should i say muscle). I just was going to make it shorter because i have a test cycle coming up and i don't want to put it off for too long. Ya heard!
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Duuuuuude. Why the heck are you not just frontloading Epi when you start Test?!?!!!

That goobly goble! Epi would make a great compound to run with either TP or TE/TC. Turn this into a Test/Epi log.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Duuuuuude. Why the heck are you not just frontloading Epi when you start Test?!?!!!

That goobly goble! Epi would make a great compound to run with either TP or TE/TC. Turn this into a Test/Epi log.
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It might if i get the test soon enough! Well i am really actually go to the gym now, i got caught up kickin ass in COD4!
 
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