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What products would you like to see us make?

Sniper said:
I would like to see a competitive priced clone of a non methyl PHs for bulking that's also easy to handle like 3-AD and Bold. So no need for liver stuff and just a simple OTC AI as PCT. That would be a nice idea for those people who are trying to get in the PH world for the first time or even experienced people who just want something mild on their body and easy to handle. I think that's a wide target especially outside the forums.

I'm just a newbie in the PHs which is still learning so forgive me for my shallow opinion ;)
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Welcome, and good recommendation. The trick is finding something effective that the liver doesn't destroy, yet is still mild. Even non-methyl hormones still have liver stress, but usually just not as much as a 17a-methyl would. Though in some cases certain non-methyls can be harsher than a 17a-methyl like Anavar.

I'd think maybe an Orastan-E / Prostanozol clone capped at 50mg/ea or higher would be a nice mild compound that people would definitely buy. Or if anyone could ever find out WTF Methoxy-TST was...
 
Ziquor said:
Welcome, and good recommendation. The trick is finding something effective that the liver doesn't destroy, yet is still mild. Even non-methyl hormones still have liver stress, but usually just not as much as a 17a-methyl would. Though in some cases certain non-methyls can be harsher than a 17a-methyl like Anavar.

I'd think maybe an Orastan-E / Prostanozol clone capped at 50mg/ea or higher would be a nice mild compound that people would definitely buy.
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I like this idea. 50-100mg/cap FTW! :D
 
Irish Cannon said:
I still stand by this. I really think this one is a winner. It's numero uno on my list. 50mg caps! Makes dosing easier.
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I still have a few bottles of 50mg/cap of this product type from another company a few years back, but i want to invest in more without a doubt. Great stacker! :thumbsup:
 
Irish Cannon said:
I still stand by this. I really think this one is a winner. It's numero uno on my list. 50mg caps! Makes dosing easier.
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Cmon, go for 100mg caps from a real good raw source, then we will see how good this stuff really is when we can do 300-400mg without breaking the bank. I think all the prostans/clones were very under rated due to the ridiculously low original dosage, and comparatively ridiculously high price to run it at a decent dosage. Even the 50mg version at 5 or 6 a day makes a 90 cap bottle empty real fast.
 
RoadBlocK said:
Cmon, go for 100mg caps from a real good raw source, then we will see how good this stuff really is when we can do 300-400mg without breaking the bank. I think all the prostans/clones were very under rated due to the ridiculously low original dosage, and comparatively ridiculously high price to run it at a decent dosage. Even the 50mg version at 5 or 6 a day makes a 90 cap bottle empty real fast.
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Alllriiighhhhtttt.....
 
brian, awhile back on another forum we were talking about possible td formstane combinations. i see that dermabolics has pulled e-form from their list. it seems that now would be a perfect time to resume those discussions. i think a formestane/resveratrol td would be something very interesting. formestane/7oxo or keto would also be nice. lets talk.
 
Or if anyone could ever find out WTF Methoxy-TST was...
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I'd be all over that. Love that stuff. Still have a small stash of it.

I'd be interested in heart-healthy, cholesterol controlling sups, maybe something with Idebenone,Res,Polycosinol and Arjuna. Would make a good sup to take while on a methyl cycle, and just all around healthy.
 
I think a max lmg clone at 50mg a cap and 100 caps a bottle or more would be awesome if reasonably priced.
 
RedwolfWV said:
I'd be all over that. Love that stuff. Still have a small stash of it.

I'd be interested in heart-healthy, cholesterol controlling sups, maybe something with Idebenone,Res,Polycosinol and Arjuna. Would make a good sup to take while on a methyl cycle, and just all around healthy.
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along with some plant sterols and garlic extract would be nice

definetly a cholesterol support.
 
i WOULD REALLY REALLY LOVE TO SEE A ORNSTAN-A/ FURAZADROL CLONE! I WOULD BUY A **** TON OF THIS!

other idea's i had:
1. furazadrol/2-Androstenol Acetate Ester combo: this would add some wetness to the furaza. I dont know what the dosing per cap would look like?!?

2. e-stane/2-Androstenol Acetate Ester combo: again some added wetness and a sold product. I dont know what the dosing per cap would look like?!?
 
grila jujitsu said:
i WOULD REALLY REALLY LOVE TO SEE A ORNSTAN-A/ FURAZADROL CLONE! I WOULD BUY A **** TON OF THIS!

other idea's i had:
1. furazadrol/2-Androstenol Acetate Ester combo: this would add some wetness to the furaza. I dont know what the dosing per cap would look like?!?

2. e-stane/2-Androstenol Acetate Ester combo: again some added wetness and a sold product. I dont know what the dosing per cap would look like?!?
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Good ideas but do note that we generally try to avoid combinations, at least for our hormonal products. Nothing is impossible though!
 
AML said:
I think a max lmg clone at 50mg a cap and 100 caps a bottle or more would be awesome if reasonably priced.
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Interesting thought. I still have a clone of this as well i'll be using shortly. It would stack very well with havoc. :D
 
Orastan-E clone please !!! its stackable with many compounds, you dont see many of them, and it gives easily keep able gains....i like the idea!
 
2-Androstenol Acetate Ester

I think this would be great. Almost like 3AD, except better because you'd be able to play around with the dosages more.
 
just93 said:
damn, i cant do PP cuz my blood pressure problem or some crapp
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:cheers:

I've got bp issues as well. I'm taking an ACE inhibitor-diuretic combo to help control it. It's been great lately actually.

Anyway, I don't know how 2-androstenol is supposed to be on BP. I'd think it'd have less of an effect that pheraplex though, as methylation seems to really bring the nasty sides to the surface.
 
yah i agree the only cycle that i have finished and liked is Havoc, but there are enough clones out there, i want something new......thats a good idea i want to see how my BP is with that compound
 
ozarkaBRAND said:
:cheers:

I've got bp issues as well. I'm taking an ACE inhibitor-diuretic combo to help control it. It's been great lately actually.

Anyway, I don't know how 2-androstenol is supposed to be on BP. I'd think it'd have less of an effect that pheraplex though, as methylation seems to really bring the nasty sides to the surface.
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The methyl group in Phera makes it 6-8 times more anabolic as well though. This would probably be a pricey item like 3AD since it'd have to be a custom job.
 
ozarkaBRAND said:
2-Androstenol Acetate Ester

I think this would be great. Almost like 3AD, except better because you'd be able to play around with the dosages more.
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Interesting. Anybody knows if it would be high or low androgenic? (i HATE high androgenic compouNds (hairloss,...)).


BTW.: What about an "Acetate Stack":
2-Androstenol Acetate + 4-Chloro-Testosterone Acetate (Unmethylated Halodrol) ??
 
just93 said:
damn, i cant do PP cuz my blood pressure problem or some crapp
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Almost every designer steroid is going to cause an increase in BP. The only one i've ran that didn't was BOLD by iForce.

If you megadose and preload hawthorne berry and take some CoQ10 and other supplements you will be fine.
 
Usf97j4x4 said:
Almost every designer steroid is going to cause an increase in BP. The only one i've ran that didn't was BOLD by iForce.

If you megadose and preload hawthorne berry and take some CoQ10 and other supplements you will be fine.
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You make anabolics look like an artform , with all the proper stacking/support supplements.:thumbsup: I'm looking forward to dabbling into those things down the road (Going to wait until I'm 25-26 probably). I really need to pick up Anabolics 2007 and do some reading.
 
JBerto said:
Interesting. Anybody knows if it would be high or low androgenic? (i HATE high androgenic compouNds (hairloss,...)).


BTW.: What about an "Acetate Stack":
2-Androstenol Acetate + 4-Chloro-Testosterone Acetate (Unmethylated Halodrol) ??
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According to the reference Non-Methyl Phera has an anabolic to androgenic ratio of 150:50 whereas regular Phera is 1200:187
 
pistonpump said:
Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione 40-50mg caps 90 count

Decavol clone: NorAndrostene-3b-ol, 17-one - 60mg
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BIG BIG BIG one on my mind!

the only person offering this is AMS and egal gear for a short exclusive run and both were too high priced.

we need a good deca precursor and if this could be offered at a generous enough price/dose then id be ALL over it. heaven forbid we have a ph that helps build our tendons/ligements as fast as our muscles.
 
poopypants said:
BIG BIG BIG one on my mind!

the only person offering this is AMS and egal gear for a short exclusive run and both were too high priced.

we need a good deca precursor and if this could be offered at a generous enough price/dose then id be ALL over it. heaven forbid we have a ph that helps build our tendons/ligements as fast as our muscles.
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Great idea, that didn't even cross my mind :thumbsup:
 
BTW how difficult would it be to manufacture any of these as a TD? Most of these non methyls would THRIVE in a TD form allowing you to offer it at a reasonable dose for cheaper and allowing the consumer to economically play with EXACT variations of doses to find what really works for them.... just a thought.
 
poopypants said:
BTW how difficult would it be to manufacture any of these as a TD? Most of these non methyls would THRIVE in a TD form allowing you to offer it at a reasonable dose for cheaper and allowing the consumer to economically play with EXACT variations of doses to find what really works for them.... just a thought.
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This be a great suggestion too. IMO the extra cost of making a dermal would even out cuz you wouldn't need as high of a dose :thumbsup:

Transdermal prostanozol and a dermal pro-deca :) I think a dermal M-TST clone would also be awesome - a perfect addition to any oral cycle. I have unopened bottles I can send to get analyzed to see WTF it really is :food:

I always wondered how a transdermal Ecdysterone would work since it's oral bio-availability has always been a problem.
 
Ziquor said:
This be a great suggestion too. IMO the extra cost of making a dermal would even out cuz you wouldn't need as high of a dose :thumbsup:

Transdermal prostanozol and a dermal pro-deca :) I think a dermal M-TST clone would also be awesome - a perfect addition to any oral cycle. I have unopened bottles I can send to get analyzed to see WTF it really is :food:

I always wondered how a transdermal Ecdysterone would work since it's oral bio-availability has always been a problem.
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Not trying to hjack the thread but LG has Dermasize which has ecdy in a transdermal. Just a FYI brotha man. :thumbsup:
 
how about a pill full of 100% hype...call it placebolen. its not a test booster but it feels like it! GNC would sell the sh!t out of it.
 
Oh, I like it

How bout transdermal placebolan - the anabolic test boosting anti-estrogen lean muscle potentiating cortisol controlling maxtrix

lol :D
 
Ziquor said:
This be a great suggestion too. IMO the extra cost of making a dermal would even out cuz you wouldn't need as high of a dose :thumbsup:

Transdermal prostanozol and a dermal pro-deca :) I think a dermal M-TST clone would also be awesome - a perfect addition to any oral cycle. I have unopened bottles I can send to get analyzed to see WTF it really is :food:

I always wondered how a transdermal Ecdysterone would work since it's oral bio-availability has always been a problem.
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So when do you become the token addition to CEL's formulary team G?! ;)

You're a gentleman and a scholar my friend. :thumbsup:
 
poopypants said:
BIG BIG BIG one on my mind!

the only person offering this is AMS and egal gear for a short exclusive run and both were too high priced.

we need a good deca precursor and if this could be offered at a generous enough price/dose then id be ALL over it. heaven forbid we have a ph that helps build our tendons/ligements as fast as our muscles.
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x2. that would be awsome
 
poopypants said:
WORD!!!

Any more votes/interest in the Deca PH anyone? Id really like to see this one come to fruition with its widespread benifits.....

Hopefully it could be done in a cost effective manner too....
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Ill 3rd this one, id like to see it happen as well. Maybe a higher mg per pill too. Like 100mgs instead of 60 or something? :thumbsup:
 
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