I noticed this on the website and was going to say something. If Leucine is listed 3rd and there is 3g, wouldn't it stand to reason the 1st and 2nd ingredients must be >3g, and that adds up to something more than 6g in the matrix? Or perhaps the 3g of Leucine isn't counting the matrix.... I'm getting too specific lol.In the swell matrix, it is the second listed after BA, followed by Leucine and AAKG- with a total of almost 6 grams for the matrix, per the nimbus website. Now, it does not give a definitive number, but I believe the estimates above are probably in the right ball park, as it is specifically designed for synergistic purposes I believe.
poison, i had the same concerns when swell first came out. i can't remember what the amounts were when they posted them but i remember thinking the ba and cit mal amounts were low. as a user of body octane in the past i think you will like the swell. i was impressed with it. the poseidon formula in swell seems to make everything better.:thumbsup:I really want Man body Octane, but since Nutra is out, I'm looking at Swell. Can anyone tell me the dose of CM in Swell?
last year i did a 4 month log on poseidon/incarnate/purple wraath, that was a good stack. using swell in place of poseidon would be even better.I got to thinking about this the other night after reading this question.
My guess, my 2 cent:thumbsup:
3g of Leucine
1.6g of Beta-Alanine
750mg- Citrulline Malate
750mg- Arginine-Alpha-Ketoglutarate
Serving is 2 scoops, 60 serving per container. Good amount per serving and this is a product you could double/triple dose and get an even better dose or combine with other products like Intrabolic or Purple Wraath.:head:
The CM and AAKG could vary....like my other guess would be higher amount of CM over the AAKG. Either way just like Purple Wraath I believe its plenty.
you are right, i was adding bulk cit mal. swell eliminates the need for this. plus the added ba. replacing poseidon with swell and adding anabolic edge should be the holy grail.Swell is an excellent edition as it is poseidon + more.....IMO.
that sound slike a hell of a stack. keep the water intake up and you are goldenyou are right, i was adding bulk cit mal. swell eliminates the need for this. plus the added ba. replacing poseidon with swell and adding anabolic edge should be the holy grail.
swell/purple wraath/white flood/green mag/incarnate/anabolic edge...i will try to run most of them for at least 3 months. i usually make orders every 2 weeks so i will replenish my supply half at a time. been taking reduction also, pretty nice so far. i like the night time part.:thumbsup:that sound slike a hell of a stack. keep the water intake up and you are golden
I got to thinking about this the other night after reading this question.
My guess, my 2 cent:thumbsup:
3g of Leucine
1.6g of Beta-Alanine
750mg- Citrulline Malate
750mg- Arginine-Alpha-Ketoglutarate
Serving is 2 scoops, 60 serving per container. Good amount per serving and this is a product you could double/triple dose and get an even better dose or combine with other products like Intrabolic or Purple Wraath.:head:
The CM and AAKG could vary....like my other guess would be higher amount of CM over the AAKG. Either way just like Purple Wraath I believe its plenty.
Personally, I think the synergistic effects of the swell matrix makes it stand out so strongly. It might look underdosed, however the feelings are indicative that it works. It is laid out nicelyThe Swell PE Release Matrix is 5850mg so if CM and AAKG were dosed similarly it should be at 625mg. I still believe it severely underdosed but it doesn't seem to diminish the effectiveness of the product. I actually wonder if one would notice it's exclusion from the formula.
x2, my feelings exactly. swell is great stacked with purple wraath, together there is more than enough cit mal/ba. add in incarnate for an extra bang.Personally, I think the synergistic effects of the swell matrix makes it stand out so strongly. It might look underdosed, however the feelings are indicative that it works. It is laid out nicely
The Swell PE Release Matrix is 5850mg so if CM and AAKG were dosed similarly it should be at 625mg. I still believe it severely underdosed but it doesn't seem to diminish the effectiveness of the product. I actually wonder if one would notice it's exclusion from the formula.