TimberLakers
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Wellllll... ran 100 today... probably 125 for tomorrow... We're in good shape.
TimberLakers' H-Drol Beatdown
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Wellllll... ran 100 today... probably 125 for tomorrow... We're in good shape.
thundergod
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I like your thinking bro!! Keep upping the fukkin' bar dude!! NO LIMITS FOR THE DOOM CREW!!:head:
ThisGuy2
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Yep. That is some funny a$$ sh!t indeed!!:icon_lol:
GMG760
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Hmmm... whatcha think TG? I'm down to run this shizzle. I just thought you were gonna run some real gear after your natty run.
I was thinking Pplex and MMV2... or maybe a Pplex and Hdrol... but that would have to be a 6 weeker... how long do you guys normally run Phera? 3 weeks? 4 weeks?
GMG760
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I've been missing Timber's rants. Thanks for that one. :toofunny:
BlackSheep
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4 Week no less IMO. Most say it doesnt even sart to kick in till week 3 so.....TG has had different experiences but no offense to Thunda but I have learned to not base my cycles off of his experiences lol...The guy is NOT FCUKING HUMAN!!!!!:thumbsup:
TimberLakers
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By the way... I'm getting lethargic as *hit again. Only upped dose 25mg since yesterday, but I had a hard time getting out of bed - and I'm fighting back blinks at work.
Any suggestions for a supp to combat the lethargy? Aside from massive cups of coffee?
Any suggestions for a supp to combat the lethargy? Aside from massive cups of coffee?
BlackSheep
Banned
Get some DHEA and dose that at 100mgs ed and see if it gets any better. This is just one of the things that happens on PH's/AAS so more or less you gotta just deal. Red bull, coffee whatever just ease up on the caffeine if your bp starts to go up to much, but that's what I do.:thumbsup:
BlackSheep
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O and you could high dose vit-C also bro this also helps alot. Look for the Emergin-C packets and fcuking slam a few of those down ed, plus it's good for anti prolactin and antioxidants as well. You should be able to find some at wal-mart or Walgreens for about $8 for 36 packets.
heavies
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TimberLakers
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No more scrips!!!
BlackSheep
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DHEA, caffinee, 1-8grams Vit-c, B-complex, More carbs, more water, less masturbating 
TimberLakers
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Masturbation is not up for discussion.
Next question, what can I take for my hairy palms and loss of vision?
Next question, what can I take for my hairy palms and loss of vision?
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
BlackSheep
Banned
Gillette and contacts are the only way around that lol...
When I ran Epidrol I was having sex 2-3 times ed and I swear to god I got shut down so much faster than I ever have before it was crazy. This last time (no chick now ;() but no pullin on my sht either and I didn't even feel shut down at all. I'm in pct now though so I'm going back and forth between here and pornhub:thumbsup:
TimberLakers
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TimberLakers
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That is easily the best site on the internet. Ahem, I mean third... behind AM and NP...
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
Anal Suppository. 8g, 3x per week. Followed by two adjuvents: Singing Cocoa Cabana by Barry Manilow, and reciting Robert Frost poetry while dressed in a chicken suit, standing knee deep in tapioca, holding hands with a midget named Rodrico Guerez Mantiago Rodriguez....The III.
TimberLakers
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Whew, for a second there I thought it would be a tough dosage... The only part of that which made me nervous was the Robert Frost reading... as I can't read... but I managed to find an audio book.
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
IIRC, audio books have decreased absorption due to first pass auditory degradation. Best double the dosage and have sex with the midget.
TimberLakers
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And if the midget refuses?
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
Buy him flowers?
heavies
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he won't he likes it rough and lots of role play....
GMG760
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:toofunny:
TimberLakers
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Dosed H-Drol @ 125 today.
Chest Day
Decline Hammer Strength
15*90, 12*180, 8*270, 3*320 PR, 6*290 PR, 12*180
Was just on fire here... Even with my shoulder being sore, just felt like this crap was light. Beat my PR by 50 pounds and 1 rep... I'm going to hit that 320 hard next time chest rolls around.
DB Flat Bench
3*10*65
This did not feel great... Shoulder felt a little sore, so I didn't want to push it too hard here.
Dips at BW
15, 12, 9
Cable Flies
15*20s, 12*25s, 12*30s, 10*35, 6*40s PR, 12*20
These felt awesome too. Crushed PR by 5 pounds per side and 3 reps.
Incline Hammer Strength
15*90, 12*140, 8*140
Weighted Abdominal Crunch
40*120, 25*140, 15*150
Big time wrist soreness from back workout yesterday and jitsu
workout on Sunday. Also tenderness in left shoulder, particularly on flat chest exercises... Incline and decline felt pretty good.
Chest Day
Decline Hammer Strength
15*90, 12*180, 8*270, 3*320 PR, 6*290 PR, 12*180
Was just on fire here... Even with my shoulder being sore, just felt like this crap was light. Beat my PR by 50 pounds and 1 rep... I'm going to hit that 320 hard next time chest rolls around.
DB Flat Bench
3*10*65
This did not feel great... Shoulder felt a little sore, so I didn't want to push it too hard here.
Dips at BW
15, 12, 9
Cable Flies
15*20s, 12*25s, 12*30s, 10*35, 6*40s PR, 12*20
These felt awesome too. Crushed PR by 5 pounds per side and 3 reps.
Incline Hammer Strength
15*90, 12*140, 8*140
Weighted Abdominal Crunch
40*120, 25*140, 15*150
Big time wrist soreness from back workout yesterday and jitsu
workout on Sunday. Also tenderness in left shoulder, particularly on flat chest exercises... Incline and decline felt pretty good.
BlackSheep
Banned
Why are your repps so high brother? I know your not a bodybuilder your a fighter so are you going for more of like IDK, endurance or some sht??
heavies
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IMO fighters need to lift for power not hypertrophy....... so T-Lake why do you do what you do?????
TimberLakers
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That's part of it... Other part being higher weights will likely be harder on my shoulder. I'm going to start cutting out some of the lighter weights - particularly on chest day. I obviously don't need to be doing 90 pounds on Decline when I end up pushing 350... Will probably start at 180 from now on. Flies are the same way... I just really feel like I want to keep tearing them down, and I have the physical capacity to go harder.
Funny thing is, when I started lifting hard after my last fight 8 months ago, I set a goal of 170 lean... Weighed in this morning at 186... Whoops.
BlackSheep
Banned
Yea that's true, WTF are you doin T-Styles??
Maybe he's just trying to get ripped or some sht IDK. The last time he was over here watching movies and giving me a back rub (homo) he asked me if his pants made his ass look fat and I just told him the truth. "no bro your fat ass makes your ass look fat!!, god,.....who's gonna want you now".....after that he started crying pretty hard and said he was gonna get peck implants and I never listened to him bla, bla, bla IDK I wasn't listening really, but maybe that's where this got started IDK...
TimberLakers
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You know, to be honest... Power comes more from proper technique than muscle mass. The best fighters I have ever seen have not been bulky guys, they typically train with light weights (medicine balls, bands, plyo, light weights) and intensely work on punching technique, balance, form and applications for this.
My main reasoning for starting to lift a bit more aggressively is that I just didn't like cutting to 155, and walking around at a soft 170. I feel like being bigger makes me feel better, be able to eat more, have more energy, look better, be more dominant at work - I just dig it... So I'm taking into effect that it may hurt my boxing game a little - though so far it has only made me stronger. I credit that to drilling form and technique all these years.
Anyway - to boil it all down... I'm up for suggestions on ways to grow faster and be stronger - you guys are the experts on that... I just feel like I need to be in the gym 5 to 6 days a week to provide stress relief and to generally destroy stuff...
pantera101
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Everybody wants to be a bb'r!I'm waiting for the oiled up hairless pics of heavies after his cycle.......
heavies
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I agree with technique but I'm suggesting power training, not getting huge, but being able to put out a lot of power, grappling wrasling all involve leverage and the ability to put down power...... I bet ole heavies could and did knock some mofos out in the ring...... I like the right jab thrown stiff, with a left cross, to a hard looping right that will make em say HELFVCKINGLO........ I also like to slam folks Rampage style.....
pantera101
Banned
and I like to pose!:bb3:
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
If you want power TL, fiber density and not volume should be your goal. Really, any training program focusing on moving maximal weights with explosive contractions, high intensity, high frequency, and low volume would be sufficient for your purposes. Such a program (DC, for example) would also be much more conducive to your MMA/Boxing goals - less weight training = less DOMS/time needed to recover = rejuvenated muscles for MMA/Boxing training.
The most powerful people in the world train using such programs; high intensity (approaching your 1RM), low volume, and high frequency. Some Olympic lifters may train their particular lift 4-5x per week. Obviously, this goes against conventional BB'ing wisdom for maximal recovery, but that's not what power is about. Power is much more about neural adaptations than musculoskeletal hypertrophy; acute instances of high load upon the body require the body's central nervous system to adapt to the stimuli. It's almost like working in an engine: After the first 10,000KM, the engine becomes more efficient and a higher capacity for output is created. The engine did not grow in CCs, but merely became adapted to the stresses of the input (your lead foot). Similarly, neural adaptations facilitating gains in intensity are not always followed by adjunct gains in LBM. In this way, you could vastly increase your power, without a subsequent gain in weight, forcing you to move weight classes.
Personally, I have used a modified DC program for these purposes. While you will not experience much growth (at least in my experience, others may disagree) the gains in power are unmatched.
TripDog
Bananas
hmmmmm............
TimberLakers
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You be a southpaw? Freak!!
TimberLakers
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This does make a lot of sense... I guess there has to be a middle ground for me... I'm a gym warrior at this stage. My hardcore competition fight life is in the past - for better or worse. So at this point, I'm training for size and strength - while still maintaining the mobility and form that I've developed since I was in grade school...
I still want to fight and I still want to train people, but at the same time, I decided awhile back that I wanted to be a bigger guy, because 155 pounds on my frame is just not condusive to a healthy long term lifestyle. I can still compete and train at a higher weight - I'm not going to be fighting world beaters.
Any of this make sense? Or am I spinning here?
TimberLakers
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Trip:
1) What the f*** is that Avi? Vanilla Ice?
2) What's this Anabolic Edge? Quick Google seach turned up nothing relevant... You've peaked my interest - and I'm excited.
3) Fat white girls are silly.
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
No, I know exactly what you mean. I was assuming your primary goal was still performance over aesthetics. I definitely see your point now, though. A middle ground would be mid-high intensity, moderate volume, minimum frequency, with periodization and longer TUT periods to facilitate growth.
TimberLakers
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Frequency meaning lifting sessions per week? I'm assuming periodization and TUT refer to the split structure as well?
Would love suggestions on current split or workout schemes... I find that variety has been my best ally in gaining size and strength.
I used to fight at 137 back in the day... I felt nasty at 137 and 155 later on... Did a ton of band resistance, core training, bag-work, kettle ball... Just got tired of being aggressively thin for 3 months out of the year.
heavies
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naw I just woke up one day and had a strong left hand..... my right makes mofos spit teeth.... but my left they never see coming.... I especially love the Bas Rutten left cross fake to liver shot, I throw it stiff right from the hip, whilst I turn under it... IDK I guess I learned early on to really turn my punches, I mean when I want to throw em stiffened.... I will switch that stance up but I am a righty.......
heavies
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I think Westside conjugate periodization with a little tweaking would be a good soln as well. It is my personal fav and what I currently run.....
TimberLakers
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Always good to have something in the trick book...
Mulletsoldier
Binging on Pure ****ing Rage
Yeah, Frequency meaning amount of times training 'X' bodypart within a given time period. TUT means Time Under Tension, and periodization means cycling various aspects of training within a given training frame - i.e., DE day, ME day, form day, and so on.
Really, they are just meant to prevent your body from adapting.
ThisGuy2
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You know I love to mix it up, dude. I think you should always incorporate new approaches and techniques.
Keep reading about this DC everyone's doing and it's really piquing my interest. Thinking about maybe reading up on it and incorporating it to my PCT month.
BlackSheep
Banned
WTF, T-STYLES did you just join da gym this morning lol.....
You need to get a book on this and read through it IMO to grasp a proper understanding of these concepts cause (no offence) this is all basic beginner sht. And while you've trained for MMA/Boxing ext BB is a whole different animal. I suggest "The Encyclopedia of weight Training" and or Jim Stopani's "The Encyclopedia of Muscle and Strength" both are good and while The Encyclopedia of Weight training is a more advanced read I think the latter would be good for someone looking to gain a basic understanding of resistance training:thumbsup:
IMO if your going to spend $50 a month on a gym mebership $300 on a Ph cycle and however much on food an extra 20-$50 for a book to show you how to put it together is more than a must have...
TimberLakers
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I truly hope you are kidding... Just because TUT and frequency don't mean much to me doesn't mean I don't know how to train my body...
I do have The Ultimate Guide to Weight Training for Boxing - which I purchased about 2 years ago... That has been my bible of sorts.
BlackSheep
Banned
I'm not, but I didn't mean to offend you either though so...
Periodization is the foundation all programs should be built upon and without that you will hit the wall after no time....These marklars are wise and and true my young marklar.....:lol:
thundergod
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I think you would really enjoy a run of DC training bro. But do it longer than just your PCT. It will barely be starting to work at just 4 weeks into it. I think you should adhere to a DC training run for at least 2 or 3 months to get the most out of it. Variety is great, but you can't really change your routine up every week and expect to progress well. Just my $0.02!! :thumbsup:
TimberLakers
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I understand this... I just never heard it coined as periodization before. From what I've read from the first time I heard it to now, it sounds like exactly what fighters are doing from training camp up until a fight.
I just fail to see how a vocabulary word precludes me from not understanding how to train myself...