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FitModel

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I just stopped my Havoc cycle because of hair loss...I was on day ten at 20mgs...


I'm gonna wait 2 weeks and start another cycle, I feel no shutdown or sides so I don't think PCT is necessary...

I'm thinking

H Drol 50mgs + p plex 30mgs (for 3-4 weeks)


thoughts?




PCT : torm, lean xtreme, creatine, powerfull, drive.


Once of my main concerns is hair loss...

Nizoral 2% doesn't seem to help AT ALL, so I might try 5% A.Acid (while on cycle)...I don't plan on using finasteride or Minidoxil for the rest of my life so I don't think using them would benefit me at all short term.
 
I just stopped my Havoc cycle because of hair loss...I was on day ten at 20mgs...


I'm gonna wait 2 weeks and start another cycle, I feel no shutdown or sides so I don't think PCT is necessary...

I'm thinking

H Drol 50mgs + p plex 30mgs (for 3-4 weeks)


thoughts?




PCT : torm, lean xtreme, creatine, powerfull, drive.


Once of my main concerns is hair loss...

Nizoral 2% doesn't seem to help AT ALL, so I might try 5% A.Acid (while on cycle)...I don't plan on using finasteride or Minidoxil for the rest of my life so I don't think using them would benefit me at all short term.
this is the 2nd thread i've read recently that suggests PP @ 30mgs. or higher.........why? am i missing something? why such a high dose of PP? maybe a more relivent question is....have you ever used PP before?
 
this is the 2nd thread i've read recently that suggests PP @ 30mgs. or higher.........why? am i missing something? why such a high dose of PP? maybe a more relivent question is....have you ever used PP before?


seems to be the standard dose.

and yes
 
Weird that havoc gave you hairloss and PP doesn't? I thought Phera is pretty androgenic.

What you're planning sounds fine, day 10 at 20mg Havoc is almost negligible.
 
okay after trolling the forums for the last 3 days I've decided...I would use H drol, but I don't have any, and it wouldn't get here till end of next week if not later, so I've decided to use what I do have...


so my cycle is gonna look like this (i'm on day 12 now)
day 1 -10 - 20mgs havoc
day 11 - 30 - 10mgs havoc 30mgs M-Drol


I went with M-Drol cause it seems to have the least effect on hairline (besides H drol) and still brings good gains...I kept 10mgs of havoc in there cause I LOVE HAVOC, and I have half a bottle to kill, and I HOPE 10mgs won't do much to my hairline

I might as well try and make some gains on this cycle since I already am screwing with my hormones and I already have a pretty good PCT ready to go!


sound okay?
 
maybe I will drop the havoc then...but at such a low dose would "2 methyls" still be harmful?

I don't want to say its good thing to do, but I feel I've seen many threads on Havoc/Epistane cycles, which are two methyls. And I'm not in favor of two methyls, just didn't think the cycle would be too bad for him, with his pct in check.
 
maybe I will drop the havoc then...but at such a low dose would "2 methyls" still be harmful?

It could be because you are still putting 2 methyls in your body. I would suggest if you wanted to do this that you bridge the 2 of them. Best of luck bro.:thumbsup:
 
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