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Cherry Poppin' Pinnin' Cycle!!

Royd The Noyd said:
The owner said they will stop selling/producing it b/c of the upcoming ban. So not sure how long it will be around...
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I thought that the upcoming ban was going to be on Phera, Tren, and Bold products. Which is the one they're banning here? M1,4ADD or Halo? Hell, when's this sh*t gonna stop?!!:rant: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
I thought that the upcoming ban was going to be on Phera, Tren, and Bold products. Which is the one they're banning here? M1,4ADD or Halo? Hell, when's this sh*t gonna stop?!!:rant: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Sorry BG not tryin to take your log OT but this was the owners post regarding Eq-T2 (I think he want to err on the side of caution):

DR_C said:
I think I can answer since it is my product and company and becasue I have had more than one conversation in the past 2 months with a contact at the FDA.

As of Monday of this week, the official word from the feds is "We have no comment at this time."

The unofficial word from the feds is "You will be watched very closely and if the decision is made to 'make an example' of a company marketing PH, you'd be in the cross-hairs."

Guys, I have to tell you that there is a very strong possibility that a company will be 'selected' to be prosecuted. It is not an "IF" but a "WHEN."

As the media continues to fan the flames of this AAS hysteria, someone is going to get the hammer dropped upon them. It will be very public and it will be with every resource that the government has available to them. They feel that they must make a "statement" to demonstrate that they are protecting the consumer from the long dark shadow of AAS.

So, I can tell you that my company will NOT take any chances. There are other products that can fill in that space in our supplement line.

Regards,
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If anyone reads MD,I can tell you the page where someone ask if designers sre being targeted by the feds.Basically the answer is yes,and don't be surprised how far they go now that they have clear guidelines as to what a anabolic steroid is.A designer has to either match,or maybe even be close(not positive)to one of the guidelines to be banned.
 
they can actually just about ban whatever they want. whether it be prosecuting a company that makes a ph or just catching the raws used to make the ph before it gets to us. i mean look at l-tryptophan. that's just a normal supp and they banned it, but now it's available OTC again. they can literally do whatever they want folks. don't kid yourselves.
 
Yeah they can bass.They banned ephedrine at one point.This article gave the clasifications of a anabolic steroid and said all they have to do now is show how a designer resembles one of the few clasifications..........
 
BlackSheep said:
Why not hit da ass JJ? That's what my friend was thinking would be the easiest but IDK......
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A glute and an @ss are the same thing bro! lol So's a fanny, tush, dairyaire, booty,.....etc....etc.. so on!! :lol: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
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These pieces of pile are trying to ban everything from Vitamin-C to Creatine.
Good thing we can still do healthy things after vitamins are banned though, like Drink Everclear and smoke non filter Camels and such!!
Good job guys :clap2: your saving the whole world from themselves now you mother*^%^# co#k sucking *(&%!! Evil turd ass sons of &$*^%!!!!!!
 
BlackSheep said:
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These pieces of pile are trying to ban everything from Vitamin-C to Creatine.
Good thing we can still do healthy things after vitamins are banned though, like Drink Everclear and smoke non filter Camels and such!!
Good job guys :clap2: your saving the whole world from themselves now you mother*^%^# co#k sucking *(&%!! Evil turd ass sons of &$*^%!!!!!!
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:aargh::aargh::frustrate:frustrate:rant: Thanks a lot Sheepster!! Now I've got to head out to work, and I'm mad as fukk!! Fukkin' government!! Get off my steroid-lovin', chemically-enhanced @ss!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
:aargh::aargh::frustrate:frustrate:rant: Thanks a lot Sheepster!! Now I've got to head out to work, and I'm mad as fukk!! Fukkin' government!! Get off my steroid-lovin', chemically-enhanced @ss!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Sorry brother lol.....It makes you feel any better (probably not but...) I feel the same way. Have a good night at work though TG. Hey I'm really impressed that you work the night shift like that and are able to just say no to stims:clap2: Fcukin-A that's hardcore, I only had two cups of coffee today and I walked around pissed off all day lol.....
 
thundergod said:
A glute and an @ss are the same thing bro! lol So's a fanny, tush, dairyaire, booty,.....etc....etc.. so on!! :lol: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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God I'm retarded!! I was reading glute and thinking "wouldn't it be easier to pin the ass instead of quad??" IDK WTF goes on in my head some days LMFAO lol.....
I meant yea I knew that.......what?? lol....:toofunny:
 
Ohshizz lets get this bit#h going! I am finally getting my new gym membership tomorrow, it has been over a month or so. Got to start all over!!!
 
hman85 said:
Ohshizz lets get this bit#h going! I am finally getting my new gym membership tomorrow, it has been over a month or so. Got to start all over!!!
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nice, you should start your T cycle so you can REALLY get things back on track :twisted:
 
Increasing the (EQ-T)2 dose to 4 caps today :twisted: So that's 140mg m1,4add(20mg dbol) and 80mg Halo. I'm going to try to lift today as my index finger is still sprained and hurts a bit, but i'm going to try anyway.
 
have you noticed any normal m1,4 sides or other effects? i've been looking around at logs on the eq-t2 and not sure how "real" the m1,4 is....
 
bassgod272 said:
Increasing the (EQ-T)2 dose to 4 caps today :twisted: So that's 140mg m1,4add(20mg dbol) and 80mg Halo. I'm going to try to lift today as my index finger is still sprained and hurts a bit, but i'm going to try anyway.
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I've got a question, sorta off-topic, yet I don't want to lead this thread astray. So here goes, as quickly as I can. I see that you're taking 140 mg. of M1,4ADD and 80 mg. of Halo. That's 220 mg. of methylated compounds per day. I think you know where I'm headin' with this! Force Of Green was taking 225 mg. of Halo towards the end of his last cycle. I know for sure that Halo is mild as probably the M1,4ADD is. Yet isn't the total sum of methylation relevant at all? I know that 80 mg. of Halo is a whole different creature than 80 mg. of Super-Drol!! Even a raving lunatic like myself would NEVER run Super-Drol at 80 mg. per day!!:fool2: Not even for a 2-weeker! But doesn't the total amount of methylation pose a hepatoxicity issue at all? I know the compounds themselves differ greatly. Just wondering how the methylation figures into this whole scenario. Thanks guys!! Now, let 'er rip!!:saw: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
I didn't notice so much methylation was being taken here!I noticed FOG's.IDK..........It may not be that bad at all.You going to get some blood work done JJ?I would of liked to see some done by FOG.Now it would be nice to see some from you JJ.You to TG,but I already read about all that in your log.I guess if I'm that concerned I could just run the test on me to see how I react!Then again my last two cycles were M drol at 10mg and now havoc that most likely won't exceed 50 as I'm not even sure if it will even hit 50 yet.
 
thundergod said:
I've got a question, sorta off-topic, yet I don't want to lead this thread astray. So here goes, as quickly as I can. I see that you're taking 140 mg. of M1,4ADD and 80 mg. of Halo. That's 220 mg. of methylated compounds per day. I think you know where I'm headin' with this! Force Of Green was taking 225 mg. of Halo towards the end of his last cycle. I know for sure that Halo is mild as probably the M1,4ADD is. Yet isn't the total sum of methylation relevant at all? I know that 80 mg. of Halo is a whole different creature than 80 mg. of Super-Drol!! Even a raving lunatic like myself would NEVER run Super-Drol at 80 mg. per day!!:fool2: Not even for a 2-weeker! But doesn't the total amount of methylation pose a hepatoxicity issue at all? I know the compounds themselves differ greatly. Just wondering how the methylation figures into this whole scenario. Thanks guys!! Now, let 'er rip!!:saw: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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I believe that the methylation only serves to get the active hormones through your stomach and liver without the initial degradation and that it's is the actual compound that is responsible for any damage that incurs from administration. (I think lol)
 
BlackSheep said:
I believe that the methylation only serves to get the active hormones through your stomach and liver without the initial degradation and that it's is the actual compound that is responsible for any damage that incurs from administration. (I think lol)
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I've heard that too,but also that it can be bad....I think?Like just cause it's methylated doesn't mean it's bad,and just cause it's not,doesn't mean it's good.I still believe that it's usually bad to be methylated though.............Maybe not?I know caffiene is methylated........
 
pantera101 said:
I've heard that too,but also that it can be bad....I think?Like just cause it's methylated doesn't mean it's bad,and just cause it's not,doesn't mean it's good.I still believe that it's usually bad to be methylated though.............Maybe not?I know caffiene is methylated........
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If JJ is that close to Bass you know he wouldn't let him do anything that would hurt him. lol:run:
 
rhodesman said:
If JJ is that close to Bass you know he wouldn't let him do anything that would hurt him. lol:run:
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I'm sure he'll be fine.It is interesting though.I mean we don't realy know all that much about these things.Other sh!t you can watch the news or read reports of studies on the net.Once upon a time stacking methyls was crazy talk!Now it's done regularly and every other day someones asking what to stack with their first "ph" ever of m drol.They don't even know it's a designer steroid to begin with,then....ah you get the point!I think one day 200+grams of methyls would of been looked down upon.I think it still is!One day tobacco was healthy and the world was flat.One day santa was real.So what do we know?I sure as hell know nothing.It's just good to talk about.If you followed TG's logs you'd see some still look down upon stacking methyls.But is it that bad to stack them,or run 200+mg's a day?:think:
 
BlackSheep said:
I believe that the methylation only serves to get the active hormones through your stomach and liver without the initial degradation and that it's is the actual compound that is responsible for any damage that incurs from administration. (I think lol)
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And here I was under the impression that the methylation itself was responsible for the liver distresses. I heard the liver is stressed from trying to break the compound down, but the methylation protects the compound from the destructive effects of the liver's enzymes. This way more of it is bioavailable. The compound survives first pass metabolism because of the methylation. I could be wrong about all of this however! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
pantera101 said:
If you followed TG's logs you'd see some still look down upon stacking methyls.
You're tellin' me brother! And yet I still don't understand why 20 mg. of Phera plus 20 mg. of Super-Drol is supposed to be worse than just 40 mg. of Phera or 40 mg. of Super-Drol by themselves. I still don't get why combining (or stacking) is considered more hepatoxic to you.:think: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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thundergod said:
pantera101 said:
If you followed TG's logs you'd see some still look down upon stacking methyls.
You're tellin' me brother! And yet I still don't understand why 20 mg. of Phera plus 20 mg. of Super-Drol is supposed to be worse than just 40 mg. of Phera or 40 mg. of Super-Drol by themselves. I still don't get why combining (or stacking) is considered more hepatoxic to you.:think: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Not me,I already admitted to not knowing.Something others need to do as well.I'm sure that's just a typo,just letting others know.I've wondered that too,but have heard that it can be synergistic in a bad way when two or more are stacked,and that some can actually be synergistic in a good way.But how do you know which ones are good and aren't?I believe you are correct about methyls as well.I forgot about that part.You gona answer my question in my log?Chop chop!:whip:
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pantera101 said:
thundergod said:
Not me,I already admitted to not knowing.Something others need to do as well.I'm sure that's just a typo,just letting others know.I've wondered that too,but have heard that it can be synergistic in a bad way when two or more are stacked,and that some can actually be synergistic in a good way.But how do you know which ones are good and aren't?I believe you are correct about methyls as well.I forgot about that part.You gona answer my question in my log?Chop chop!:whip:
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Yeah I know what you mean. Anything I know Ive learned here. I have taken the 3 in 1 pills and notice nothing more than being shutdown pretty bad. But who knows what it will do to me in the long run. Ive seen TG do some pretty "wild cycles" and he seems to love it.
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rhodesman said:
pantera101 said:
Yeah I know what you mean. Anything I know Ive learned here. I have taken the 3 in 1 pills and notice nothing more than being shutdown pretty bad. But who knows what it will do to me in the long run. Ive seen TG do some pretty "wild cycles" and he seems to love it.
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I've taken a 2 in 1 and noticed the same thing.I doubt you can realy notice any affects on the inside,unless they are severe ofcourse.I personally don't think designers are as bad as most lead you to believe,but again,IDK.

EDIT:Whats up with our quotes saying another said it?
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EasyEJL said:
have you noticed any normal m1,4 sides or other effects? i've been looking around at logs on the eq-t2 and not sure how "real" the m1,4 is....
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nah, no sides as of yet, but it's only day 3 lol. i planned on lifting today, but had to work overtime and my lame gym closes at 8pm. :sad: i WILL go tomorrow though, since i open the pharmacy :) hopefully i'll get some nice pumps or something from it. it's only going to be day 4, but others have said they use m1,4 with prop and just run it(m1,4) for 17 days with excellent results. so it should kick in pretty fast. we'll find out...
 
As far as the amount of methyls go, it is all relevant to the compounds themselves. Jst because you are using 220mg of 2 compounds combined, that doesn't equate to 220mg superdrol, phera, epi, etc. The mg is the amount of the actual compound(PH) itself. There is no such measurement for methylation. You can't say that this compound has 20mg of "methyl" in it, lol. You know what I mean? It is either methylated or it's not. It is simply a process that chemists use to make a compound more bioavailable. All that occurs is, a methyl group is added to the actual chemical structure of which ever compound is in question. There is no more methyl in 1 compound than another. Liver damage is compound specific.

Methylated compounds ARE damaging to the liver and some are worse than others. SD is crazy bad, epi is mild, halo is mild, etc. m1,4 is active by itself and also converts to dbol. I don't see this being anywhere near as bad on my liver as my boy bass' crazy as$ phera/SD bridge cycle. I did not list all support supps because I felt it wasn't ecessary. However I AM taking 400mg SAM-e every morning on an empty stomach, until I am done with the EQ-T2. This is a much better liver aid than milk thistle and it also helps with many other things. ZERO alcohol will be consumed as well. :sad: sorry for the long post, but that's what you get for taking my shyt off track LMAO.
 
bassgod272 said:
As far as the amount of methyls go, it is all relevant to the compounds themselves. Jst because you are using 220mg of 2 compounds combined, that doesn't equate to 220mg superdrol, phera, epi, etc. The mg is the amount of the actual compound(PH) itself. There is no such measurement for methylation. You can't say that this compound has 20mg of "methyl" in it, lol. You know what I mean? It is either methylated or it's not. It is simply a process that chemists use to make a compound more bioavailable. All that occurs is, a methyl group is added to the actual chemical structure of which ever compound is in question. There is no more methyl in 1 compound than another. Liver damage is compound specific.

Methylated compounds ARE damaging to the liver and some are worse than others. SD is crazy bad, epi is mild, halo is mild, etc. m1,4 is active by itself and also converts to dbol. I don't see this being anywhere near as bad on my liver as my boy bass' crazy as$ phera/SD bridge cycle. I did not list all support supps because I felt it wasn't ecessary. However I AM taking 400mg SAM-e every morning on an empty stomach, until I am done with the EQ-T2. This is a much better liver aid than milk thistle and it also helps with many other things. ZERO alcohol will be consumed as well. :sad: sorry for the long post, but that's what you get for taking my shyt off track LMAO.
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Sorry JJ. :frustrate
 
Didn't mean to divert the thread bro!! :sad: I knew you would have an answer to the methylation mystery a lot of us were curious about. I totally understand now. I knew for sure (and stated it!) that 80 mg. of Halo is NOWHERE near as bad as 80 mg. of Super-Drol!! Just wondering about the methylation equation was all! Thanks for the enlightenment J.J.!! Now back to rockin dis muddah!!:head: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
DAY 4:

250mg TE - Left Glute
140mg m1,4add and 80mg halo

Will update after my first workout since vacation, after work today :woohoo:
 
bassgod272 said:
As far as the amount of methyls go, it is all relevant to the compounds themselves. Jst because you are using 220mg of 2 compounds combined, that doesn't equate to 220mg superdrol, phera, epi, etc. The mg is the amount of the actual compound(PH) itself. There is no such measurement for methylation. You can't say that this compound has 20mg of "methyl" in it, lol. You know what I mean? It is either methylated or it's not. It is simply a process that chemists use to make a compound more bioavailable. All that occurs is, a methyl group is added to the actual chemical structure of which ever compound is in question. There is no more methyl in 1 compound than another. Liver damage is compound specific.
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Ah ha!! I was right! A ya, ya.......Thanks, knew you'd pop in and stratin sht out.
How are your injeezz going dude? Do you just shank it in there or do you ease it in nice and slow like?? LMAO Seriously though I need to know this sht lol...
Also are you timing it and doing it (the inje) slow or are you just squeezing it of in there and saying fcuk it?
 
BlackSheep said:
Ah ha!! I was right! A ya, ya.......Thanks, knew you'd pop in and stratin sht out.
How are your injeezz going dude? Do you just shank it in there or do you ease it in nice and slow like?? LMAO Seriously though I need to know this sht lol...
Also are you timing it and doing it (the inje) slow or are you just squeezing it of in there and saying fcuk it?
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Theirs a thread in the steroid section called injections 101 I believe BS.It has an instructional video and all.I'll have to check it out too.Last time I seen it my computer didn't have sound.I sem to remeber them jabbing it in.Thats the way I'd do it.Just like I tell others who say they can't.....Just aiiiiiiiiiiim.........AND POW!!!!It's done!
 
pantera101 said:
Theirs a thread in the steroid section called injections 101 I believe BS.It has an instructional video and all.I'll have to check it out too.Last time I seen it my computer didn't have sound.I sem to remeber them jabbing it in.Thats the way I'd do it.Just like I tell others who say they can't.....Just aiiiiiiiiiiim.........AND POW!!!!It's done!
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Yea I saw it and I know our friend here did too so that's why I was wondering?? I'd rather have the ugly blue haired bizzket do it than myself though lol..
 
pantera101 said:
Theirs a thread in the steroid section called injections 101 I believe BS.It has an instructional video and all.I'll have to check it out too.Last time I seen it my computer didn't have sound.I sem to remeber them jabbing it in.Thats the way I'd do it.Just like I tell others who say they can't.....Just aiiiiiiiiiiim.........AND POW!!!!It's done!
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Still scares the he!! out of me when the doc does it. I know d@m well I couldn't do it to myself. Yet anyway. Still workin on not being such a wuss. lol. :frustrate
 
rhodesman said:
Still scares the he!! out of me when the doc does it. I know d@m well I couldn't do it to myself. Yet anyway. Still workin on not being such a wuss. lol. :frustrate
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Piercings and tattoos help.........Not seeing any in the pics!Personally piercings freaked me out when getting them done.IDK why.Tattos hurt so much worse and take much longer.Even though piercings freaked me out I still pierced my eye brows so many times in highschool and my nipple once.The nipple was just to do it.It hasn't looked right since and it was 5 yrs ago.
 
pantera101 said:
Piercings and tattoos help.........Not seeing any in the pics!Personally piercings freaked me out when getting them done.IDK why.Tattos hurt so much worse and take much longer.Even though piercings freaked me out I still pierced my eye brows so many times in highschool and my nipple once.The nipple was just to do it.It hasn't looked right since and it was 5 yrs ago.
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Your vag seemed to look alright the other day though, despite all the Tattoo's and piercings it's got lol......jk:toofunny:


Hey did you see that pic in MD.com of that chick's vag with the devil face tatted on it?? That was fcuking sick! If this place wasn't so [G] rated I use that for my Avy LMAO..
 
BlackSheep said:
Your vag seemed to look alright the other day though, despite all the Tattoo's and piercings it's got lol......jk:toofunny:


Hey did you see that pic in MD.com of that chick's vag with the devil face tatted on it?? That was fcuking sick! If this place wasn't so [G] rated I use that for my Avy LMAO..
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I don't have any piercings anymore.You can see the dots on my head from the ones I had for a while,then my efed up nipple!

Yeah that face waa cool!I think?IDK if I'd like that or not......I gues you could get used to it.......I bet it looks funny when....................you know!
 
pantera101 said:
Piercings and tattoos help.........Not seeing any in the pics!Personally piercings freaked me out when getting them done.IDK why.Tattos hurt so much worse and take much longer.Even though piercings freaked me out I still pierced my eye brows so many times in highschool and my nipple once.The nipple was just to do it.It hasn't looked right since and it was 5 yrs ago.
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Actually I am tatted. Earring piercings only though.
 
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